---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 12/25/11: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:43 AM - Re: Re: Pietenpols and Movies (Matthijs de Groot) 2. 07:06 AM - Re: Tire size again and shock cord fastener (skellytown flyer) 3. 11:50 AM - phosphoric acid (Timothy Willis) 4. 01:52 PM - tire size again (Oscar Zuniga) 5. 02:28 PM - Metal primer (Oscar Zuniga) 6. 03:52 PM - Re: Pietenpols and Movies (TriScout) 7. 06:52 PM - Rotating wing mechanism (Gary Boothe) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:43:03 AM PST US From: Matthijs de Groot Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpols and Movies The great Waldo Pepper. A story about the barnstorming days. The German ww1 ace he fights in the end. Is based on Ernst Udet . Great aviation flik. On Dec 25, 2011, at 3:11 AM, AMsafetyC@aol.com wrote: > The Spirit of St Louis is a great film and inspirational especially > the scenes at the Ryan Company during the build. I think any builder > would love that part in particular. Like Space Cowboys and TGWP I > have see them over and over again. They are as fun as they are > inspiring, entertainment with and extra value. > > A builders delight > > Do not archive > > Merry Christmas to all, this holiday season > > > John > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:06:25 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Tire size again and shock cord fastener From: "skellytown flyer" Well to tell you the truth I was in about the same condition for experience. I am using standard old 6:00 X 6 tires on my GN-1.( and I do mean old-take-offs from the pile out back of the hangar picked out for light weight and ancient old drum brake wheels I got for 50 bucks-how long are you gonna roll anyway? ) set up on Cub gear. I don't know if you would find 2 Piet style airplanes that sit exactly the same but it is unlikely due to so many factors from size changes- length, width, Cabane heights etc. but the airplane is a docile forgiving design and as long as you stay in the ballpark you'll be fine. I have a friend who let me get a little tailwheel time in his Glassair with a 2 blade controllable prop on a 180 horse engine. that thing sits so close to the ground you really gotta stay on top of it- push the stick forward just a little hard and the prop tips are hitting the runway but man that thing is fast! ( and he has it for sale) but he was brave for sure. don't over think this tire thing. what someone said a long time ago on the site still applies. which Piet is the fastest? - the one that is finished and flying.have a Merry Christmas and enjoy the process. Raymond. do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=361640#361640 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 11:50:20 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: phosphoric acid From: Timothy Willis Try any local paint store. I bought a gallon here in Texas at either Kelly-Moore or Sherwin Williams years ago for $8. People commonly use it to etch their iron fences, etc. here before painting. In fact, that is what I did with most of it. Brush it on, or carefully use a little hand squeeze sprayer. Clean up well around kids or pets. Merry Christmas to all, Tim in central TX ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 01:52:40 PM PST US From: Oscar Zuniga Subject: Pietenpol-List: tire size again John wrote- >I asked a few days ago about using 15 inch tires on 6 in rims-- >most said to stay 600-6 which are about 16 inch. My plans actually >call for 19 inch, I have a pair of 800-6 that are about 18 inch. >Any thought? John, one of the posts in response to yours was a reference to the Carlisle "Turf Glide" tires, 8.00x6, which have an outside diameter of close to 18". Info here: http://www.carlisletire.com/products/golf_gliders/turfglide/index.html These are the tires that are recommended for use on the airplane that I'm building, the Flying Squirrel. Quite a few other light sport and ultralight aircraft use these. I only have two concerns with them: (1) the catalog shows them rated for golf carts and utility ATVs, which are certainly not going to be running at anything like our landing speeds of 55-60 MPH, and (2) load rating is 420 lbs., which means a pair of them should be good for 840 lbs., and we fly our airplanes at up to 1100 lbs. gross weight. They will see more load than that on a good firm landing or a bounce. Granted, the manufacturer rates them conservatively for purposes of lawsuit avoidance, so they are probably just fine for this duty. The proof would be to mount them and go fly. At least one post in reply to your question was from a guy who has been flying with these tires for a good amount of time. Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" Flying Squirrel N2069Z "Rocket" Medford, OR website at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 02:28:05 PM PST US From: Oscar Zuniga Subject: Pietenpol-List: Metal primer Okay, so this doesn't directly address the issue of metal primer, but it may be that if you use some of these metal treatments, you may decide not to put any other finish on them. Besides the Naval Jelly phosphate treatment, there are things like rust bluing and cold bluing that may be of interest. The one that I have used and like pretty well in locations where the part will not be visible (or where you want the zinc chromate look) is green rebar epoxy. There are several manufacturers, Krylon is one, but the one I've used is Aervoe. I just did a quick search and places like toolauthority.com have it for $6.25 for a 16 oz. spray can. I don't think it is intended as a primer, since it has a fairly smooth cured surface. Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" Flying Squirrel N2069Z "Rocket" Medford, OR website at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 03:52:36 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpols and Movies From: "TriScout" "The War Lover"... circa 1962 I think. Steve McQeen... no fake cardboard cockpits...very realistic Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=361653#361653 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:52:51 PM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Rotating wing mechanism Well, they say, "Laziness is the Mother of Invention." They don't say that? Well..they should! I definitely did not want to crawl under my wing every time the need arose, so I came up with this simple contraption.. Let me know if you want any more pics or descriptions.. Merry Christmas Gary from Cool NX308MB ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.