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1. 12:07 AM - seafoam (Clif Dawson)
2. 04:05 AM - Re: Rib stiching (helspersew@aol.com)
3. 04:31 AM - Re: seafoam (Jerry Dotson)
4. 05:25 AM - Carbondale, Colorado (Kringle)
5. 05:48 AM - Re: Where have the Models Gone? (Mark Stanley)
6. 05:59 AM - Re: seafoam (H. Marvin Haught)
7. 06:12 AM - Re: Re: Floorboards and rudder pedals... (Hans Van Der Voort)
8. 06:26 AM - Re: Where have the Models Gone? (Wayne Bressler)
9. 06:50 AM - Re: Where have the Models Gone? (bradandlinda tds.net)
10. 07:20 AM - Re: Where have the Models Gone? (Mark Stanley)
11. 07:20 AM - Re: Carbondale, Colorado (Ken Bickers)
12. 07:33 AM - Re: seafoam (bradandlinda tds.net)
13. 08:08 AM - Bronze-Brass Bearings (Jack)
14. 08:45 AM - Re: Carbondale, Colorado (Barry Davis)
15. 09:07 AM - Re: Bronze-Brass Bearings (shad bell)
16. 09:25 AM - Re: Bronze-Brass Bearings (Jack)
17. 09:47 AM - Re: Bronze-Brass Bearings (shad bell)
18. 10:31 AM - Re: Where have the Models Gone? (K5YAC)
19. 10:33 AM - Re: Bronze-Brass Bearings (Jack)
20. 10:52 AM - Re: Re: Where have the Models Gone? (Wayne Bressler)
21. 12:01 PM - Re: Bronze-Brass Bearings (Jerry Dotson)
22. 12:39 PM - Re: Re: Bronze-Brass Bearings (Jack)
23. 01:20 PM - Re: Floorboards and rudder pedals... (regchief)
24. 02:40 PM - Re: Where have the Models Gone? (Ed Smith)
25. 03:04 PM - Re: Where have the Models Gone? (Piet2112)
26. 03:20 PM - Re: Bronze-Brass Bearings (Don Emch)
27. 03:23 PM - Re: 2012 Ohio Piet Fly-in (Don Emch)
28. 04:40 PM - Re: Re: Where have the Models Gone? (Ryan Mueller)
29. 04:43 PM - Re: Re: Bronze-Brass Bearings (Jack)
30. 06:28 PM - Re: Where have the Models Gone? (Wayne Bressler)
31. 07:02 PM - Re: seafoam (Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB)
32. 07:12 PM - Re: Re: Where have the Models Gone? (Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB)
33. 08:45 PM - Re: Carbondale, Colorado (Kringle)
34. 10:37 PM - Re: Floorboards and rudder pedals... (aerocarjake)
35. 11:08 PM - Re: Re: Where have the Models Gone? (Mark Stanley)
36. 11:11 PM - Re: Re: Where have the Models Gone? (Mark Stanley)
37. 11:14 PM - Re: Re: Where have the Models Gone? (Mark Stanley)
38. 11:18 PM - Re: Re: Where have the Models Gone? (Gary Boothe)
39. 11:18 PM - Re: Re: Where have the Models Gone? (Mark Stanley)
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Anybody ever encountered this stuff?
http://www.seafoamsales.com/
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Subject: | RE: Rib stiching |
Gary you are fast. Took me two hours to figure out how to tie the knot. Th
en inevitably there are ribs and structure in the way in certain places. Lo
oks great!!!
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
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I have some in the shop. My wife's ol' Lincoln got to running bad so a trip to
the local auto parts. He said to pull the injectors and soak them in the Seafoam
Motor Treatment he sold me. It made all that gunk turn loose so all I had to
do was blow with an air nozzle and reinstall. Ran great.
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59 Daniel Johnson Rd
Baker, FL 32531
Started building NX510JD July, 2009
now covering
21" wheels
Lycoming O-235 C 2C
Jay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44
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Subject: | Carbondale, Colorado |
My wife and I are visiting one of her friends in Carbondale, Colorado for a few
days and I was wondering if any Pietenpols were in the area? I suffered from
a little altitude sickness yesterday and about fell through a plate glass window
yesterday at a restaurant in Idaho Springs as I suddenly got light headed
[Shocked] I feel much better this morning but need something to do while the
girls go shopping.
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Subject: | Re: Where have the Models Gone? |
Hi Pieters,
The model situation in Japan is the same.
If you go to a one stop shop/ plaza place, 99% of the plastic models
available are of characters from japanese 'manga' (comic books), with
aircraft, ships etc being a very rare find.
There are however still stores dedicated to scale plastic models and they do
supply a wide range of kits.
As far as flying models go, the old fashioned model shop is hard to find and
most of the newer generation ones mostly stock ARF/RTF models . I go to one
old shop in a small town owned and run by a very old couple to get my balsa
supplies and stuff.
Model fields are also being shutdown mainly due to urban swelling so that
makes things harder as well.
I am lucky enough to be able to use a site that dosn't bother people too
much.
During October this year (2011) I took my R/C Piet out for it's 10th year
anniversary flight. The morning was perfect, no wind and silky smooth air.
Took a quick shot after the flight (it was 5.42 a.m.). This is a modified
kit model, all balsa and loads of fun to fly (slow &
relaxing)......hopefully I can sit in my 'other Piet' and fly it on it's 10
anniversary....someday!
Cheers!
Mark S
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I am a total believer in the stuff! I usually buy auto fuel when prices
are good and store it in 2 55 gallon barrels. I treat the fuel with Sea
Foam. I had an 18 hp Lawnmower that started running quite badly with
sticking valves. My neighbor caught me just as I was laying everything
out to pull the head, asking if I had tried Sea Foam. Ran to the store,
got a can, poured it in the fuel. In about 5 minutes running time, the
engine smoothed out and has run fine ever since. And that's been about
2 years. My Pacer has a 125 Lyc and the typical carburetor. Every time
I run Aviation gas in it, the needle valve sticks. Coming back from
Oshkosh, the valve stuck, causing a run rich condition. When I got
home, I poured in a bottle of Sea Foam. Again five minutes of running
time and the mixture worked fine. Sea Foam is good stuff - equal to
Marvel Mystery oil.
M. Haught
On Dec 30, 2011, at 2:05 AM, Clif Dawson wrote:
> Anybody ever encountered this stuff?
>
>
> http://www.seafoamsales.com/
>
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Subject: | Re: Floorboards and rudder pedals... |
Mahesh,
Those picture are from Jake Schultz, steel tube Pietenpol.
I believe they are 1/4" Mahogany Plywood.
Regards
Hans
NX 15KV
Waller,TX
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Sent: Thu, Dec 29, 2011 5:58 pm
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Floorboards and rudder pedals...
Hello Hans,
am building an Avid Flyer and wanted to check the place you sourced your f
loor
oard? I wanted to install a wood grain floor board pattern for my aircraft
,
ust like yours!
Your pictures look good! Thanks!
Mahesh
tah
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Subject: | Re: Where have the Models Gone? |
The stores will sell what sells. If kids (and adults) don't buy models, the
n why fill the shelves with them? Yes, there are plenty of alternatives to m
odel building when looking for recreational activities these days, but I don
't blame the choices. Blame the chooser. If the parents do not expose thei
r children to things like models, then the children won't know to choose the
m for themselves. Start them young, and instill a desire to craft and creat
e.
Even if the kid you care about isn't "into" it, buy them a kit anyway. Take
the time to mentor them, show them how fun and rewarding it can be. Let th
em get dirty, play with knives, glue stuff together, etc. Don't try to prot
ect them from the danger of these things, let them learn the safe practices a
nd be there to put a bandaid on their cuts.
Also, the Internet is fast becoming one of the few sources of "niche" produc
ts. You will find thousands of models to choose from online. The kids know h
ow to use the Internet.
My daughter is almost four, and she loves to spend time with me in the garag
e. We have built a beginner level rocket together, and are working on a har
der one. Even when we don't have a task in mind, she builds her own "projec
ts" from my scrap box. Mostly just stacking blocks, but she really enjoys i
t.
Wayne Bressler
Taildraggers, Inc.
www.taildraggersinc.com
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Subject: | Re: Where have the Models Gone? |
Mike, Nice looking model. I like the Model A and radiator. Its amazing
you've flown it for ten years. What type of engine do you have in it?
Brad Williams NX29NX
On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 7:45 AM, Mark Stanley <mmrally@nifty.com> wrote:
> Hi Pieters,
>
> The model situation in Japan is the same.
> If you go to a one stop shop/ plaza place, 99% of the plastic models
> available are of characters from japanese 'manga' (comic books), with
> aircraft, ships etc being a very rare find.
> There are however still stores dedicated to scale plastic models and they
> do supply a wide range of kits.
> As far as flying models go, the old fashioned model shop is hard to find
> and most of the newer generation ones mostly stock ARF/RTF models . I go to
> one old shop in a small town owned and run by a very old couple to get my
> balsa supplies and stuff.
> Model fields are also being shutdown mainly due to urban swelling so that
> makes things harder as well.
> I am lucky enough to be able to use a site that dosn't bother people too
> much.
> During October this year (2011) I took my R/C Piet out for it's 10th year
> anniversary flight. The morning was perfect, no wind and silky smooth air.
> Took a quick shot after the flight (it was 5.42 a.m.). This is a modified
> kit model, all balsa and loads of fun to fly (slow &
> relaxing)......hopefully I can sit in my 'other Piet' and fly it on it's 10
> anniversary....someday!
>
> Cheers!
> Mark S
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Where have the Models Gone? |
Hi Brad,
Thanks for the comments on the model. I too like the Model A and
radiator. They are fairly roughly fashioned to look like the real thing
and I am always amazed when people (non-modellers) think the model A
actually runs, it gives me a smile.
The model was origionally designed for a Cox .049, but I modified it to
take a =98Speed 400=99 electric motor with gear reduction to
run an 8x4 prop. The electric motor allows me to fly it in a few more
areas and not annoy anybody with the noise.
It is really a little underpowered but I like to think it is how the
full size would fly with a Model A up front, so I don=99t mind.
If I ever get the full size Piet finished, I would like a Model A in it
as well, love the look!
Cheers
Mark S
From: bradandlinda tds.net
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 11:47 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Where have the Models Gone?
Mike, Nice looking model. I like the Model A and radiator. Its
amazing you've flown it for ten years. What type of engine do you have
in it? Brad Williams NX29NX
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Subject: | Re: Carbondale, Colorado |
John, I don't know of any projects on the western slope of Colorado.
Up and down the front range, there are a few folks building or flying
Pietenpols. You'd be welcome to drop by and see my project at the
Longmont airport. Cheers, Ken
On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 6:22 AM, Kringle <Mrkringles@msn.com> wrote:
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> My wife and I are visiting one of her friends in Carbondale, Colorado for a few
days and I was wondering if any Pietenpols were in the area? I suffered from
a little altitude sickness yesterday and about fell through a plate glass window
yesterday at a restaurant in Idaho Springs as I suddenly got light headed
[Shocked] I feel much better this morning but need something to do while the
girls go shopping.
>
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> John
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Fantastic stuff. I have a friend with 2 real old tractors that were
running real rough. He was getting ready to overhaul the engines when I
told him about Sea Foam, and after a short running time they smoothed out.
He calls it "tune-up" in a can. I believe it also prevents varnishing in
stored gas/engines. Brad Williams NX29NX
On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 7:52 AM, H. Marvin Haught <
handainc@madisoncounty.net> wrote:
> I am a total believer in the stuff! I usually buy auto fuel when prices
> are good and store it in 2 55 gallon barrels. I treat the fuel with Sea
> Foam. I had an 18 hp Lawnmower that started running quite badly with
> sticking valves. My neighbor caught me just as I was laying everything out
> to pull the head, asking if I had tried Sea Foam. Ran to the store, got a
> can, poured it in the fuel. In about 5 minutes running time, the engine
> smoothed out and has run fine ever since. And that's been about 2 years.
> My Pacer has a 125 Lyc and the typical carburetor. Every time I run
> Aviation gas in it, the needle valve sticks. Coming back from Oshkosh, the
> valve stuck, causing a run rich condition. When I got home, I poured in a
> bottle of Sea Foam. Again five minutes of running time and the mixture
> worked fine. Sea Foam is good stuff - equal to Marvel Mystery oil.
>
> M. Haught
> On Dec 30, 2011, at 2:05 AM, Clif Dawson wrote:
>
> Anybody ever encountered this stuff?
>
>
> http://www.seafoamsales.com/
>
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Subject: | Bronze-Brass Bearings |
Happy New Year Friends! Awhile back I had questions regarding "oiled"
bearings. I've had trouble locating these in the correct size. I don't
mind turning down the outside of the material for a fit but hesitate turning
the inside because if not done correctly it can impair the oil properties of
the bearings. My question.is anybody flying with plain brass or bronze
bearings?
Thanks,
Jack
DSM
NX1929T
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Subject: | Carbondale, Colorado |
I took a day off from skiing a few years back and visited Rick Holland in
Castle Rock (just South of Denver). That would be about a 4 hour drive (one
way) from Carbondale, buy hey, it's a Pietenpol!
Barry Davis
NX973BP
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kringle
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 8:23 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Carbondale, Colorado
My wife and I are visiting one of her friends in Carbondale, Colorado for a
few days and I was wondering if any Pietenpols were in the area? I suffered
from a little altitude sickness yesterday and about fell through a plate
glass window yesterday at a restaurant in Idaho Springs as I suddenly got
light headed [Shocked] I feel much better this morning but need something
to do while the girls go shopping.
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Subject: | Re: Bronze-Brass Bearings |
Jack Where are you using these bearings?=C2-=C2- I am going to use high
density plastic busings for my biplane aileron hinges( 1/4 od, 3/16 id and
1/16 flange thickness)=C2- They are commonly used in industrial applicat
ions, and claimed to have better wear properties than oil-lite bearings/bus
hings.=C2- I found them at igus.com .=C2- Let me knwow what you decide.
=C2- I haven't ordered mine yet but need to get them so I can procede wit
h my aileron cable routing.
=C2-
Shad
--- On Fri, 12/30/11, Jack <jack@textors.com> wrote:
From: Jack <jack@textors.com>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Bronze-Brass Bearings
Happy New Year Friends!=C2- Awhile back I had questions regarding
=9Coiled=9D bearings.=C2- I=99ve had trouble locating these i
n the correct size.=C2- I don=99t mind turning down the outside of
the material for a fit but hesitate turning the inside because if not done
correctly it can impair the oil properties of the bearings.=C2- My questi
onis anybody flying with plain brass or bronze bearings?
Thanks,
Jack
DSM
NX1929T
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Subject: | Re: Bronze-Brass Bearings |
The axels
Jack Textor
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 30, 2011, at 10:05 AM, "Jack" <jack@textors.com> wrote:
> Happy New Year Friends! Awhile back I had questions regarding =9Coi
led=9D bearings. I=99ve had trouble locating these in the corre
ct size. I don=99t mind turning down the outside of the material for a
fit but hesitate turning the inside because if not done correctly it can im
pair the oil properties of the bearings. My questionis anybody fly
ing with plain brass or bronze bearings?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jack
>
> DSM
>
> NX1929T
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Bronze-Brass Bearings |
I guess plastic won't work for those!, Are you using the big spoked wheels?
=C2- I will see if I can find any sources online if you can give me some
specs/sizes.
=C2-
Shad
--- On Fri, 12/30/11, Jack <jack@textors.com> wrote:
From: Jack <jack@textors.com>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Bronze-Brass Bearings
The axels
Jack TextorSent from my iPhone
On Dec 30, 2011, at 10:05 AM, "Jack" <jack@textors.com> wrote:
Happy New Year Friends!=C2- Awhile back I had questions regarding
=9Coiled=9D bearings.=C2- I=99ve had trouble locating these i
n the correct size.=C2- I don=99t mind turning down the outside of
the material for a fit but hesitate turning the inside because if not done
correctly it can impair the oil properties of the bearings.=C2- My questi
onis anybody flying with plain brass or bronze bearings?
Thanks,
Jack
DSM
NX1929T
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Subject: | Re: Where have the Models Gone? |
Mark, awesome looking model. The photo looks like a painting!
Wayne, my thoughts exactly. Gotta hold their hands a little, but get them started
early and let them make some mistakes along the way. I gave my son (Tyler)
his first knife last year for Christmas... a little 2" blade Swiss Army knife...
you know, the scissors, knife, tweezers, etc. Good enough to cut a few things,
but hopefully not too much. I told him to be careful because the blade
was sharp... sure enough a little while later I walk back to his room where he
is holding toilet paper around his finger... he just looked at me and said,
"I'm ok". Yep, he was bleeding, but not bad. Enough to know what I meant when
I said, "be careful, it's sharp". Can't even count how many times I've sliced
or poked myself with an exact-o knife. Ha!
Since others are sharing photos, here is one of "Mr. Reliable" as they were calling
him at the launch site. His Estes Hornet lit off on all three attempts and
flew straight and true.
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Mark Chouinard
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Subject: | Bronze-Brass Bearings |
Thanks Shad, I did check many including Bunting, National Bronze and
McMaster. Tarbell would machine them for $250 which is too high.
Bunting
sent me a cylinder 1.5 ID and 2.5 OD for $100 but it was =BC =93over
tolerance
and they want a $20 restock fee. I=92m looking for 1.5=94 ID and 2.3125
OD
about 6=94 long. I can turn the OD down but hesitate enlarging the ID.
Thanks again,
Jack
DSM
NX1929T
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bell
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 11:45 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Bronze-Brass Bearings
I guess plastic won't work for those!, Are you using the big spoked
wheels?
I will see if I can find any sources online if you can give me some
specs/sizes.
Shad
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Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Bronze-Brass Bearings
The axels
Jack Textor
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On Dec 30, 2011, at 10:05 AM, "Jack" <jack@textors.com
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Happy New Year Friends! Awhile back I had questions regarding
=93oiled=94
bearings. I=92ve had trouble locating these in the correct size. I
don=92t
mind turning down the outside of the material for a fit but hesitate
turning
the inside because if not done correctly it can impair the oil
properties of
the bearings. My question=85is anybody flying with plain brass or
bronze
bearings?
Thanks,
Jack
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Mark,
Great stuff! I bought Emily a purple exacto, but my wife reminded me she's not
quite old enough for that yet. :)
That Piet model posted earlier was very nice, too!
If anyone is interested, Stevens Aero makes small electric Air Camper and Sky Scout kits: www.stevensaero.com
Support your local hobby shop!
-Wayne
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Subject: | Re: Bronze-Brass Bearings |
McMaster has 1.5 ID X 2.5 OD $88.33
http://www.mcmaster.com/#8911K996
I don't think you are going to find 2.3125 OD. It is a pretty simple job to turn
the OD.
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59 Daniel Johnson Rd
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now covering
21" wheels
Lycoming O-235 C 2C
Jay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44
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Subject: | Re: Bronze-Brass Bearings |
Jerry, thanks. I maybe should have been more clear with my post. I have
the bronze for bearings currently. I wanted to know if anyone has been
flying with bronze axel bearings successfully. My preference would be
"oiled bronze" but I can't find them.
Thanks again,
Jack
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McMaster has 1.5 ID X 2.5 OD $88.33
http://www.mcmaster.com/#8911K996
I don't think you are going to find 2.3125 OD. It is a pretty simple job to
turn the OD.
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Baker, FL 32531
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now covering
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Subject: | Re: Floorboards and rudder pedals... |
My plans are in the mail Jake, and I have been considering a steel tube fuselage
for nearly two years now. Post more pics of your progress as you go, as there
is a serious lack of steel tube fuselage construction pics.
Kelly
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Subject: | Re: Where have the Models Gone? |
Speaking of the lack of models, looking at the pic of your daughter using
blocks to build a "project" jogged a memory. When was the last time you
saw a set of Tinkertoys or an Erector set in the store? These prompted
several budding engineers a few decades ago. Lego's just don't quite
measure up.
On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 9:23 AM, Wayne Bressler
<wayne@taildraggersinc.com>wrote:
>
>
> My daughter is almost four, and she loves to spend time with me in the
> garage. We have built a beginner level rocket together, and are working on
> a harder one. Even when we don't have a task in mind, she builds her own
> "projects" from my scrap box. Mostly just stacking blocks, but she really
> enjoys it.
>
> Wayne Bressler
> Taildraggers, Inc.
> www.taildraggersinc.com
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labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself?" (anon)
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Subject: | Re: Where have the Models Gone? |
My girls insisted I make an AirCamper out of Legos. I only had pics
of the the Continental powered one. The black and yellow one had a
Model A.
Curt Merdan
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Subject: | Re: Bronze-Brass Bearings |
Jack,
I have plain bronze bushings in mine. Mainly because it is what I had when I made
my hubs and didn't want to buy the oilite. As long as you have about .003"-.004"
clearance fit and scribe a few lines in the I.D. across the length of
them to hold grease you'll be fine. I have never had any issues with mine. I
probably have somewhere around 600-700 landings and they've always spun fine.
Every annual I take them off and inspect and grease them well. They seem to
be wearing really well.
Don Emch
NX899DE
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Subject: | Re: 2012 Ohio Piet Fly-in |
Hey Shad,
I would really like to attend. Summer and weekends with the four kiddos can get
a little interesting. Let me know what weekend you are thinking and I'll check
the calendar. Sure would be fun!
Don Emch
NX899DE
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Well, honestly...you're the adult. Take the toys away if it's that
disturbing. Engage them in the experience...etc, etc
Ryan
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On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 1:47 PM, Bryan Reed <reed44@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Mark said
>
> "Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 12:03 pm Post subject: Re: Where have the
> Models Gone?
> Blaming video games seems obvious, but where are the parents? What are
> they doing? Unfortunately, many of them are camped out on the video games
> as well. "
>
> Mark,
>
> I took my 2-nephews aged 12 and 10 on a 3-hour flight from Phx to
> Sedona, Flagstaff and back through Payson, AZ. This is a breathtaking senic
> flight that people from around the world plan and pay dearly for the
> opportunity to take.
> They sat in the back seat and played video games the whole trip except
> for a 15-minute period of fighting that I finally stopped when I threatened
> to throw them both out the window. When I was that age I am positive had I
> behaved like that my Father WOULD have thrown me out the window. : )
>
> Feeling old these days,
>
> Bryan
>
> Do not archive
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> --------
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>
> While I may not always be right, I apologize well.
>
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Subject: | Re: Bronze-Brass Bearings |
Thank you so much Don, just what I needed. The tolerance data is most
helpful. When you say scribe, literally? As opposed to milling or filing a
groove?
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Don Emch
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 5:18 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Bronze-Brass Bearings
Jack,
I have plain bronze bushings in mine. Mainly because it is what I had when
I made my hubs and didn't want to buy the oilite. As long as you have about
.003"-.004" clearance fit and scribe a few lines in the I.D. across the
length of them to hold grease you'll be fine. I have never had any issues
with mine. I probably have somewhere around 600-700 landings and they've
always spun fine. Every annual I take them off and inspect and grease them
well. They seem to be wearing really well.
Don Emch
NX899DE
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On a Beechcraft list there was much discussion of "mechanic in a can" chemicals.
IE Marvel Mystery Oil and Sea Foam.
The general consensus on MMO is either you are a believer or not. Analysis shows
it to be a high quality/grade of 5 weight oil (some say 3 wt) with 20% solvent
(mineral spirits and Naptha), phosphorus and some wintergrean for smell. It
was developed when oil and fuels were varying qualities and often gunked up carbs
and engines.
Seafoam is light hydrocarbon oil, petroleum naphtha, isopropyl alcohol; and water10%.
My experience with both is that they are good for stabilization of fuel and MMO
is good for unsticking valves. I also use it to "Prelube" my cylinders when I
start my engine after long storage. Good for use on old engines that have been
setting (IE old tractors.).
and spray lubricants such as WD40, LPS and Corrosion X.
WD40 was designed for Water Displacement. It is also a marginal lube. can clean
some parts, Rust preventative (marginal) and a penetrating oil.
LPS has different products. I like LPS 2 does what WD40 claims but better, especially
at lubricating.
LPS3 his a heavy Waxy spray that has some lube properties but is really good as
a protective coating.
Corrosion X is an electrician in a spray can. Well OK, It is good a freeing up
electrical components and stopping corrosion. I spray the interior of my 1948
Bonanza with Corrosion X at every annual. I have it leaking out the seams of the
plane.
Blue Skies,
Steve D
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From: "bradandlinda tds.net" <bradandlinda@tds.net>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: seafoam
> Fantastic stuff. I have a friend with 2 real old tractors that were
> running real rough. He was getting ready to overhaul the engines
> when I
> told him about Sea Foam, and after a short running time they
> smoothed out.
> He calls it "tune-up" in a can. I believe it also prevents
> varnishing in
> stored gas/engines. Brad Williams NX29NX
>
> On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 7:52 AM, H. Marvin Haught <handainc@madisoncounty.net>
wrote:
>
> > I am a total believer in the stuff! I usually buy auto fuel when prices
> > are good and store it in 2 55 gallon barrels. I treat the fuel with Sea
> > Foam. I had an 18 hp Lawnmower that started running quite badly with
> > sticking valves. My neighbor caught me just as I was laying everything out
> > to pull the head, asking if I had tried Sea Foam. Ran to the store, got a
> > can, poured it in the fuel. In about 5 minutes running time, the engine
> > smoothed out and has run fine ever since. And that's been about 2 years.
> > My Pacer has a 125 Lyc and the typical carburetor. Every time I run
> > Aviation gas in it, the needle valve sticks. Coming back from Oshkosh, the
> > valve stuck, causing a run rich condition. When I got home, I poured in a
> > bottle of Sea Foam. Again five minutes of running time and the mixture
> > worked fine. Sea Foam is good stuff - equal to Marvel Mystery oil.
> >
> > M. Haught
> > On Dec 30, 2011, at 2:05 AM, Clif Dawson wrote:
> >
> > Anybody ever encountered this stuff?
> >
> >
> > http://www.seafoamsales.com/
> >
> > *
> >
> > href="blockedhttp://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.com
> > href="blockedhttp://www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.com
> > href="blockedhttp://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.com
> > href="blockedhttp://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
> > href="blockedhttp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
> > href="blockedhttp://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
> > href="blockedhttp://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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A buddy and fellow pilot owns a RC business. His problem is that people can buy
Chinese made RC aircraft for a fraction of the cost of a good RC. Then they get
used to $80 RCs and can't bring themselves to pay $200 for better quality and
performance.
This year I was able to find Model (Revell type) airplanes several places for my
grandson. But not as many as previously and the selection is limited.
Blue Skies,
Steve D
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From: echobravo4 <eab4@comcast.net>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Where have the Models Gone?
>
> yea; if you can even find a real hobby shop anymore- they have tons of
> ARF (almost ready to fly) planes but no real kits. Most don't even have
> a selection of balsa or spruce anymore 'cause hardly anyone actually
> builds anymore.
>
> It's actually pretty sad- that's what got me into aviation- going to the hobby
> shop with my dad, getting a kit or a bundle of wood for a scratch-built (Piet!)
> and getting something in the air!
>
> Do Not Archive
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>
> I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where
I intended to be.
>
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Carbondale, Colorado |
Thanks guys but that is a little too far. I guess I will have to go shopping.
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Subject: | Re: Floorboards and rudder pedals... |
Howdy... I post photos on the ROTEC site as well as Matronics...
http://www.rotecengines.com/Projects/JakeSchultz.html
but I will also post some more here in a week or so......... you are right that
the plans are not nearly as detailed for the steel version.
I used two layers of 1/8 inch marine plywood and a top layer of "bubinga" veneer....
All laminated together in a jig to follow the curve of the bottom of the
fuselage.
I am working on many, many metal fittings these days, for the control system, the
seat belt attach points, and everywhere else where someting attaches to the
fuselage.
--------
Jake Schultz - curator,
Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)
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Subject: | Re: Where have the Models Gone? |
Hi Mark,
Thanks for comment on the R/C Piet photo. It was a luck shot, I just dumped
my auto everything camera on the trunk of my car and set the timer, the
camera and the 'lucky sun angle' did the rest. I like the way the sun sort
of makes the wing LE etc glow. Yep, lucky shot!
"Mr. Reliable" looks like an enthusiat if ever I saw one! Keep him going
the way he is going! It sort of brings back memorys of when I was a kid!
Cheers
Mark S
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-----Original Message-----
From: K5YAC
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 3:29 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Where have the Models Gone?
>Mark, awesome looking model. The photo looks like a painting!
>Since others are sharing photos, here is one of "Mr. Reliable" as they were
>calling him at the launch site. His Estes Hornet >lit off on all three
>attempts and flew straight and true.
--------
Mark Chouinard
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Subject: | Re: Where have the Models Gone? |
Hi Wayne,
Thanks for posting the link to Stevens Aero, they look like they have some
neat models, I will check them out a bit more.
Cheers
Mark S
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From: Wayne Bressler
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 3:49 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Where have the Models Gone?
<wayne@taildraggersinc.com>
Mark,
Great stuff! I bought Emily a purple exacto, but my wife reminded me she's
not quite old enough for that yet. :)
That Piet model posted earlier was very nice, too!
If anyone is interested, Stevens Aero makes small electric Air Camper and
Sky Scout kits: www.stevensaero.com
Support your local hobby shop!
-Wayne
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Hi Curt,
Hadn't thought about making a Piet out of Lego, it looks pretty good!
Cheers
Mark S
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From: Piet2112
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 8:02 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Where have the Models Gone?
My girls insisted I make an AirCamper out of Legos. I only had pics
of the the Continental powered one. The black and yellow one had a
Model A.
Curt Merdan
Flower Mound, TX
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I'm CRUSHED! No 'vair powered Piets?
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Piet2112
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 3:02 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Where have the Models Gone?
My girls insisted I make an AirCamper out of Legos. I only had pics of the
the Continental powered one. The black and yellow one had a Model A.
Curt Merdan
Flower Mound, TX
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Subject: | Re: Where have the Models Gone? |
Hi Steve,
I think that is a big problem the world over. Those models are certainly
convinient but they don't really teach paitence nor building skills.
Sometime the structural integrity leaves a bit to be desired as well.
I like either scratch built or kits, much more satisfying to build.
Cheers
Mark S
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From: Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 12:09 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Where have the Models Gone?
>A buddy and fellow pilot owns a RC business. His problem is that people can
>buy Chinese made RC aircraft for a fraction of >the cost of a good RC. Then
>they get used to $80 RCs and can't bring themselves to pay $200 for better
>quality and >performance.
Blue Skies,
Steve D
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