---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 01/04/12: 13 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:43 AM - Re: Powder Coat Supplier (Jack) 2. 04:06 AM - Re: Powder Coat Supplier (Jack) 3. 07:39 AM - Re: Powder Coat Supplier () 4. 08:03 AM - Riblet 612 cg range? (Chris Rusch) 5. 09:33 AM - Re: Riblet 612 cg range? (johnwoods@westnet.com.au) 6. 11:00 AM - Re: Bronze-Brass Bearings (AircamperN11MS) 7. 11:52 AM - Re: Riblet 612 cg range? (Don Emch) 8. 02:57 PM - Re: Classic Aviation footage (Jim Ash) 9. 05:31 PM - Re: Brodhead 2012 (RickBright) 10. 06:16 PM - Re: Re: Brodhead 2012 (Dick N) 11. 06:26 PM - Re: Re: Brodhead 2012 (prhoads61@frontiernet.net) 12. 07:18 PM - Re: Riblet 612 cg range? (dgaldrich) 13. 08:25 PM - Re: Riblet 612 cg range? (Chris Rusch) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:43:50 AM PST US From: "Jack" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Powder Coat Supplier Mike thanks but that is not the one mentioned. It does have a lot of good ideas though. It's driving me nuts. It was posted a few weeks ago, I believe in the metal priming thread. I looked at the site quickly and it had the color I'm seeking on the front page. I either didn't bookmark it or can't find the bookmark. I've read every thread in the archives with no luck. Thanks again Mike Jack DSM NX1929T _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Groah Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 11:46 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Powder Coat Supplier I'm not sure what was mentioned before but I've used Pendry powder coatings for my powder before. They have some variety of materials. www.pendrypowdercoatings.com/ Mike Groah Sent from my iPhone On Jan 3, 2012, at 3:24 AM, "Jack" wrote: Hi Jim, I have a sprayer; I'm searching for a very special color. I've tried paint from Eastwood and NIC. Someone mentioned a supplier in the last two weeks I had not tried. Thanks! Jack DSM NX1929T _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jim_markle@mindspring.com Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 7:48 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Powder Coat Supplier I got my setup @ Eastwood. Eastwood.com JM _____ From: "Jack" Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com ReplyTo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: Powder Coat Supplier A few weeks ago someone mentioned a powder coat = supplier. I couldn't find in the archive. Could you share = again? Thanks, Jack DSM ================================== >http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List ================================== cs.com ================================== matronics.com/contribution ================================== ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:06:42 AM PST US From: "Jack" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Powder Coat Supplier Finally found it, thanks to all. http://www.columbiacoatings.com they changed their front page which threw me off. Jack DSM NX1929T _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 5:41 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Powder Coat Supplier Mike thanks but that is not the one mentioned. It does have a lot of good ideas though. It's driving me nuts. It was posted a few weeks ago, I believe in the metal priming thread. I looked at the site quickly and it had the color I'm seeking on the front page. I either didn't bookmark it or can't find the bookmark. I've read every thread in the archives with no luck. Thanks again Mike Jack DSM NX1929T _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Groah Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 11:46 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Powder Coat Supplier I'm not sure what was mentioned before but I've used Pendry powder coatings for my powder before. They have some variety of materials. www.pendrypowdercoatings.com/ Mike Groah Sent from my iPhone On Jan 3, 2012, at 3:24 AM, "Jack" wrote: Hi Jim, I have a sprayer; I'm searching for a very special color. I've tried paint from Eastwood and NIC. Someone mentioned a supplier in the last two weeks I had not tried. Thanks! Jack DSM NX1929T _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jim_markle@mindspring.com Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 7:48 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Powder Coat Supplier I got my setup @ Eastwood. Eastwood.com JM _____ From: "Jack" Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com ReplyTo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: Powder Coat Supplier A few weeks ago someone mentioned a powder coat = supplier. I couldn't find in the archive. Could you share = again? Thanks, Jack DSM ================================== >http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List ================================== cs.com ================================== matronics.com/contribution ================================== http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:39:11 AM PST US From: Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Powder Coat Supplier Powder Coat Supplierwas it eastwood?? From: Jack Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 6:41 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Powder Coat Supplier Mike thanks but that is not the one mentioned. It does have a lot of good ideas though. It=99s driving me nuts. It was posted a few weeks ago, I believe in the metal priming thread. I looked at the site quickly and it had the color I=99m seeking on the front page. I either didn=99t bookmark it or can=99t find the bookmark. I=99ve read every thread in the archives with no luck. Thanks again Mike Jack DSM NX1929T ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Groah Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 11:46 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Powder Coat Supplier I'm not sure what was mentioned before but I've used Pendry powder coatings for my powder before. They have some variety of materials. www.pendrypowdercoatings.com/ Mike Groah Sent from my iPhone On Jan 3, 2012, at 3:24 AM, "Jack" wrote: Hi Jim, I have a sprayer; I=99m searching for a very special color. I=99ve tried paint from Eastwood and NIC. Someone mentioned a supplier in the last two weeks I had not tried. Thanks! Jack DSM NX1929T ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jim_markle@mindspring.com Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 7:48 PM To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Powder Coat Supplier I got my setup @ Eastwood. Eastwood.com JM ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- From: "Jack" Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 19:24:29 -0600 To: ReplyTo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: Powder Coat Supplier A few weeks ago someone mentioned a powder coat = supplier. I couldn=99t find in the archive. Could you share = again? Thanks, Jack DSM ==========>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenp ol-List====================== =============cs.com========== matronics.com/contribution================ =================== http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-Listhttp://forums.matronics. comhttp://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:03:57 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Riblet 612 cg range? From: "Chris Rusch" I am finishing up my pre cover w/b and it is working out real nice, should be able to keep the cabanes vertical. Does anyone have the published cg range for the Riblett airfoil? i was going to use 15-20" aft of the leading edge. Has anyone else other than Lowel flown the Riblett yet? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=362388#362388 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:33:09 AM PST US From: johnwoods@westnet.com.au Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Riblet 612 cg range? Hi Chris, I'm also building a Riblett 612 wing. A fellow builder over here was advised by Mr Riblett to keep the CoG range between 10.8" and 16.8" aft of LE. For the initial flight the aft limit should be only 15 inches, if OK this may be increased to 16.8 in increments. Others may be able to confirm these figures or present alternate CoG range. JohnW Perth Western Australia ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 11:00:53 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Bronze-Brass Bearings From: "AircamperN11MS" I have brass bushing in my Piet. I just changed the Bungee cords on a friends Piet and she has the plastic automotive Kingpin bushings in hers. The plane was built in the 70's and the bushings still look new. Seems like a great alternative to me. -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Brodhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=362412#362412 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 11:52:31 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Riblet 612 cg range? From: "Don Emch" I hope for the sake of safety that all of the Riblett wing builders are aware of that statement from Mr. Riblett. That range could prove to be difficult to obtain on the Pietenpol. Don Emch NX899DE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=362415#362415 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 02:57:30 PM PST US From: Jim Ash Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Classic Aviation footage Is that Stan Laurel at 5:56? Jim Ash -----Original Message----- From: TOM STINEMETZE Sent: Jan 3, 2012 11:13 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Classic Aviation footage Ladies and Gentlemen: Just so I don't start out the year by gettng flamed for un-Pietenpolish conduct, let me say that if you watch this classic aviation footage all the way through you will find a "sort of" Pietenpol connection. Note in particular the open cockpit and the use of a doorbell ringer that cost $2. http://www.aircraftowner.com/videos/view/americas-first-jet-flight-october-1942_1617.html Stinemetze N328X ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 05:31:04 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Brodhead 2012 From: "RickBright" Am planning on attending this year for our first visit, I ordered the Pietenpol plans and and am in the process of making room in the shop for the Air Camper Project.. One of my other passions is old GM Converted buses, I have a converted 1959 4104 GM Coach, can anyone recommend a campground with water/electric hookups close to the airport, could get by with no water or sewer but an electric cord would be nice. I probably will now tow a car so close would be great...I understand there is camping on site but no hookups? Thanks Rick Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=362445#362445 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 06:16:29 PM PST US From: "Dick N" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Brodhead 2012 Hi Rick Brodhead is a simple small town, but it has good facilities. The airport is about a mile out of town. You can bring your camper in and park it in the airport parking lot for a total charge of $5. There is no electricity or water sewer hookups. Dick N. ----- Original Message ----- From: "RickBright" Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 7:25 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Brodhead 2012 > > > Am planning on attending this year for our first visit, I ordered the > Pietenpol plans and and am in the process of making room in the shop for > the Air Camper Project.. > > One of my other passions is old GM Converted buses, I have a converted > 1959 4104 GM Coach, can anyone recommend a campground with water/electric > hookups close to the airport, could get by with no water or sewer but an > electric cord would be nice. I probably will now tow a car so close would > be great...I understand there is camping on site but no hookups? > > Thanks > Rick > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=362445#362445 > > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 06:26:23 PM PST US From: prhoads61@frontiernet.net Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Brodhead 2012 Crazy Horse Campground on the northwest side of Broadhead. All the hookups and maybe 3 miles from the airport. If you tow a car, it works great. Perry Rhoads N12939 ----- Original Message ----- From: "RickBright" Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2012 7:25:57 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Brodhead 2012 Am planning on attending this year for our first visit, I ordered the Pietenpol plans and and am in the process of making room in the shop for the Air Camper Project.. One of my other passions is old GM Converted buses, I have a converted 1959 4104 GM Coach, can anyone recommend a campground with water/electric hookups close to the airport, could get by with no water or sewer but an electric cord would be nice. I probably will now tow a car so close would be great...I understand there is camping on site but no hookups? Thanks Rick Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=362445#362445 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 07:18:42 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Riblet 612 cg range? From: "dgaldrich" If you do the math, the BH airfoil has a range of 25-40% MAC (mean aerodynamic chord). The Riblett recommendation is for 18-28% MAC. For reference, Beech has a CG range of 21-37% MAC for the Bonanza, slightly more restrictive than BH but wider than Riblett. The Beech 18 is unstable with a CG aft of 30.5 which is in line with the Riblett. The swept wing aircraft I've flown have run in the 16-35% range. The point of all this is that there is no good rule of thumb for CG limits but they need to be determined by flight testing in an organized, scientific manner if you're flying serial number 1. Sounds like fun!!! For those who are close to flying the Riblett, this would be an excellent use of the 25/40 hour fly off rather than boring holes in the sky. Dave Aldrich Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=362452#362452 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 08:25:05 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Riblet 612 cg range? From: "Chris Rusch" My estimates put the cg at 18" the way i have it rigged now.....i did some archive searching and pieti lowell says the cg range is real similar to the original piet airfoil. I was really hoping some more people would be flying the ribletts by now, i dont want to be first!! 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