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1. 04:44 AM - Re: new subscriber questions--okay, old subscriber, old questions (Mark Stanley)
2. 06:01 AM - Mke Cuy Re: GN-1 (Lawrence Williams)
3. 07:50 AM - Re: Brake anti-rotation (bender)
4. 12:23 PM - center secting wing ribs (Scott Cutler)
5. 01:32 PM - Re: center secting wing ribs (Gary Boothe)
6. 03:08 PM - Re: Re: Brake anti-rotation (helspersew@aol.com)
7. 06:15 PM - Re: Re: Brake anti-rotation (Greg Cardinal)
8. 06:39 PM - New Builder to the Piet Family (FandS_Piet)
9. 07:02 PM - Re: New Builder to the Piet Family (Jack Phillips)
10. 09:10 PM - Re: center secting wing ribs (Greg Bacon)
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| Subject: | Re: new subscriber questions--okay, old subscriber, old |
questions
Hey Mike,
How about making it a canard with a nose skid and pylon mounted
engine.......?
Happy New Year to you too!
Mark S
Japan
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| Subject: | Mke Cuy re: GN-1 |
Mike-
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Seems like reasonable innovation to me. In light of some of the posts on th
is list in years past, you don't seem to be doing anything more irrational
than some others.
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I got a call from someone yesterday that will recieve his plans next week.
He is interested in building to-the-plans, keeping it light and using a Mod
el "A" for power. I tried to tell him that the plans were merely a suggesti
on and that he really needed to make a bunch of changes to bring it into th
e 21st century (wider fuse, doors, electronics and lights, different airfoi
l, at least 100 h.p. engine, etc.) but I don't think he was listening. Bles
s his heart!!!
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Love ya' all-
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Larry
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list!
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| Subject: | Re: Brake anti-rotation |
thanks gentleman...
did some welding..here it is
i had some 5/16 bungee around so i put 14 feet on each side just to check things
out...easier to preload it won't move with just me on board..
jeff
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| Subject: | center secting wing ribs |
My 7th and 8th grade students have finally finished making the outboard wing
section ribs (3-piece wing, 26 ribs-needless to say, they are ready to move
on) to our AirCamper. We constructed the ribs with vertical supports on the
fore and aft sides of the front and rear spar locations. We don't know how
to support the spar locations on the ribs that form the butt joint between
the outer and center wing sections. Those locations are filled with
plywood, steel straps, and pulleys. Those of you that built a 3-piece wing,
how did you build those 4 butt ribs in the spar locations? Thanks, Scott
Cutler
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| Subject: | center secting wing ribs |
Scott,
Just trace the rib on to a piece of plywood, cut and glue. You can rasp &
sand the plywood to fit after the glue is hard. Does that answer your
question?
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Scott Cutler
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2012 12:20 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: center secting wing ribs
My 7th and 8th grade students have finally finished making the outboard wing
section ribs (3-piece wing, 26 ribs-needless to say, they are ready to move
on) to our AirCamper. We constructed the ribs with vertical supports on the
fore and aft sides of the front and rear spar locations. We don't know how
to support the spar locations on the ribs that form the butt joint between
the outer and center wing sections. Those locations are filled with
plywood, steel straps, and pulleys. Those of you that built a 3-piece wing,
how did you build those 4 butt ribs in the spar locations? Thanks, Scott
Cutler
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| Subject: | Re: Brake anti-rotation |
Looks cool Jeff............
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
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From: bender <jfaith@solairusaviation.com>
Sent: Sat, Jan 7, 2012 9:51 am
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Brake anti-rotation
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thanks gentleman...
did some welding..here it is
i had some 5/16 bungee around so i put 14 feet on each side just to check t
hings
ut...easier to preload it won't move with just me on board..
jeff
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| Subject: | Re: Brake anti-rotation |
Jeff,
Will you be installing anything to prevent chafing of the bungee's on
the fasteners?
The bungees on NX18235 were being replaced annually (my least favorite
job) until we installed a leather cuff to protect the bungees.
Greg Cardinal
Minneapolis
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From: bender <jfaith@solairusaviation.com>
To: pietenpol-list <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Sat, Jan 7, 2012 9:51 am
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Brake anti-rotation
<jfaith@solairusaviation.com>
thanks gentleman...
did some welding..here it is
i had some 5/16 bungee around so i put 14 feet on each side just to
check things
out...easier to preload it won't move with just me on board..
jeff
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| Subject: | New Builder to the Piet Family |
Hey Guys. I just wanted to peak in and say hello to all and thanks for the abundance
of information on hear. My father and I have decided to build a Piet, the
plans are ordered as well as some spruce. My father is actually in the middle
of an Rv-8 build right now and when I went to the him with the idea of building
a Piet together, he didnt know what a Piet was and after a days research,
he got back to me and was all in putting the RV on the back burner. I am so
excited to be able to do this with my dad and cant wait until the plans arrive
in the mail
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| Subject: | New Builder to the Piet Family |
Well, as one who has built a Pietenpol and is currently building an RV-10, I
can say you and your Dad will thoroughly enjoy the experience of building
the Pietenpol. Don't get me wrong, Van's builds fine kits, but the
experience of assembling (not BUILDING) a kit is simply not as rewarding as
that of making every piece of the airplane yourself.
With an RV, there is no time spent in looking at the plans and trying to
figure out the best way to make the parts shown in what seems to be way too
few drawings, nor is there any satisfaction of knowing that your airplane is
not quite like any other.
Once your Pietenpol is finished, you'll have the pleasure of seeing it draw
crowds wherever you fly. I own an RV-4 (that I bought, not one I built
myself) that I fly regularly. It never creates any curiosity at all, the
way my Pietenpol does. RV stands for Ramp Vermin. They are fine airplanes,
and truly do everything well, but there are an awful lot of them. They are
becoming as ubiquitous as Cessnas.
So welcome to the wonderful world of Pietenpols, and of building your own
airplane from scratch. The people here are wonderful, and the airplanes are
honest and interesting, and fly like what they are - a 1929 design. Plan to
attend Brodhead this July, to see just how many variations on the type are
possible. Truly no two are alike.
Good Luck!
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of FandS_Piet
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2012 9:35 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: New Builder to the Piet Family
Hey Guys. I just wanted to peak in and say hello to all and thanks for the
abundance of information on hear. My father and I have decided to build a
Piet, the plans are ordered as well as some spruce. My father is actually
in the middle of an Rv-8 build right now and when I went to the him with the
idea of building a Piet together, he didnt know what a Piet was and after a
days research, he got back to me and was all in putting the RV on the back
burner. I am so excited to be able to do this with my dad and cant wait
until the plans arrive in the mail
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| Subject: | Re: center secting wing ribs |
Scott,
There are probably a thousand different ways to do this, but I'll share
with you the sequence I used to help get you thinking about it. First,
attach the metal fitting to the CS spar pieces. Attach the CS spar pieces
to the wing panels. I made up a "skeleton" stand to support the center.
The wing panel ends were sitting on saw horses covered with carpet
remnants. By the way, make sure the wing panels are squared up first by
adjusting the drag/anti-drag cables accordingly. Essentially, you are
using the wing panels as jigs to make sure everything fits together
perfectly. Next, position and epoxy the ribs in place. You will have to
chisel away small portions of the rib vertical truss members to clear the
metal fittings. Next, scribe and cut plywood to fit the wing curve and
epoxy in place. I only applied "butt-rib" plywood to the ribs in-between
the spars. I sanded off all the rib gussets in this area then epoxied the
plywood to the side of the rib, again, in-between the front and rear spars.
Next, attach your leading and trailing edges. Sand and shape everything
accordingly. Next, apply the bottom plywood skin. Now, you can remove
wing panels (your jig) since the bottom skin will keep the CS square. You
may want to go ahead and varnish those areas that will be difficult or next
to impossible to varnish after applying the top plywood skin. Lastly,
apply the top plywood skin and varnish the rest of the CS. I would
reference the Tony Bingelis wood working book for how to glue up the
plywood skins. Anyway, this is the general sequence I used. Oh, and I did
not apply plywood to the butt ribs on the wing panels. I left them open
and reinforced the bit ribs with scrap 1/2" by 1/2" spruce pieces. If you
want, I can send you some photos off-line. Hope this helps.
Greg Bacon
Prairie Home, MO
On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 2:19 PM, Scott Cutler <cutlertxs@comcast.net> wrote:
> My 7th and 8th grade students have finally finished making the outboard
> wing section ribs (3-piece wing, 26 ribs-needless to say, they are ready
to
> move on) to our AirCamper. We constructed the ribs with vertical support
s
> on the fore and aft sides of the front and rear spar locations. We don
=92t
> know how to support the spar locations on the ribs that form the butt joi
nt
> between the outer and center wing sections. Those locations are filled
> with plywood, steel straps, and pulleys. Those of you that built a 3-pie
ce
> wing, how did you build those 4 butt ribs in the spar locations? Thanks,
> Scott Cutler****
>
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