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1. 02:49 AM - Re: Lubbock flyer (Ryan Mueller)
2. 05:48 AM - Wing spar routing jig. (tools)
3. 06:09 AM - to route or not to route (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP])
4. 06:35 AM - Re: to route or not to route (Kip and Beth Gardner)
5. 07:06 AM - Re: Wing spar routing jig. (Michael Perez)
6. 07:12 AM - Re: to route or not to route (tools)
7. 09:12 AM - jury struts (Ralph)
8. 09:32 AM - jury strut to spar idea--attach points (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP])
9. 09:41 AM - Re: to route or not to route (Gene Rambo)
10. 09:55 AM - Re: jury strut to spar idea--attach points (tools)
11. 10:09 AM - Re: jury struts (Michael Perez)
12. 10:26 AM - photos, sketches (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP])
13. 11:11 AM - Re: to route or not to route (Bill Church)
14. 11:45 AM - Re: Re: to route or not to route (Michael Perez)
15. 12:42 PM - Re: to route or not to route (tools)
16. 01:27 PM - Re: Wing spar routing jig. (jarheadpilot82)
17. 05:07 PM - Tube "Improved" gear questions (Mark Roberts)
18. 05:10 PM - Re: jury struts (Jack Phillips)
19. 05:32 PM - nice day (Dick N)
20. 05:35 PM - Re: Tube "Improved" gear questions (Jack)
21. 05:36 PM - Re: jury struts (Kip and Beth Gardner)
22. 05:47 PM - Re: nice day (darmahboy@aol.com)
23. 06:17 PM - Re: Re: N-Number, When to Apply? (Dave Millikan)
24. 07:08 PM - Re: N-Number, When to Apply? (Bryan Reed)
25. 07:22 PM - Re: Tube "Improved" gear questions (Dave Millikan)
26. 07:27 PM - Re: nice day (Dick N)
27. 07:41 PM - Re: jury struts (Michael Perez)
28. 10:48 PM - Re: Tube "Improved" gear questions (Mark Roberts)
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| Subject: | Re: Lubbock flyer |
Listed as built by, but no longer registered to him:
http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/NNum_Results.aspx?NNumbertxt=5107Q
http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/photo/123156.html
Ryan
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 8:04 PM, skellytown flyer <skellflyer1@yahoo.com>wrote:
> skellflyer1@yahoo.com>
>
> anyone know of a fellow by the name of Seversen Haugen in Lubbock? a
> friend told me there was a Piet registered to him there. I have not seen
> that name on the site- just wondering- i's not that far from here. Raymond
> do not archive
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| Subject: | Wing spar routing jig. |
I recently did a project for the EAA on their 1919 Standard J-1 biplane restoration.
One wing spar was BADLY dry rotted, so a replacement had to be made. FIRST,
they had to wait for a beautiful piece of doug fir to show up to the mill
before it could be planed and sent to them.
Then, the routed recesses had to be made. I offered to do it as their primary
woodworker was not available.
As a picture is worth 10 thousand words, here it is. A very simple jig that I
will duplicate for the Piet wing spar when I get my spar material.
In this picture, the jig is upside down for a photo op only. It shows both a finished
routed recess and how the spar is indexed in the jig.
The width of the routed recess is "set". However, the length of the recess is
adjustable. If you need one longer than the jig, then you simply rout and then
reset. If you need one shorter, I made adjustable end stops with a gage to
make setup easier.
The jig, end stop and spar all get clamped as a whole directly to the bench top.
It's a very stable setup. Here's the setup for a short recess (at the end
of the spar).
I'll be getting my wood from McCormick in Madison. I don't know if this is generally
considered a difficult process for much of the group. If it is, or is
condsidered worthwhile, I can rout my spars at Brodhead next summer. If not,
I'll probably do it here but wouldn't mind bringing the jig I make to pass along
to the next guy, or we could do a bunch of spars there, whatever works for
the group.
Tools
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| Subject: | to route or not to route |
One man's option--how I did it and how I would do it again.
Mike C.
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| Subject: | Re: to route or not to route |
Elmer's glue of course - correct? :)
Seriously, Mike has posted this drawing a number of times over the
years, and it strikes me as a very sensible solution from someone who
knows.
Kip Gardner
On Jan 10, 2012, at 9:07 AM, Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE
CORP] wrote:
> One man's option--how I did it and how I would do it again.
>
> Mike C.
>
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> <Pietspar.jpg>
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| Subject: | Re: Wing spar routing jig. |
I think that jig is a great way to duplicate the spar that it will be repla
cing. After waiting for the wood to show up and then have it planed down to
size and shipped, the last thing you, as a volunteer, want to do is mess i
t up.- The jig should prove to produce quick, clean and accurate duplicat
ions of the original.
As for the Pietenpol...you already have the jig, after doing this current s
par, you'll have some basic knowledge how to use it AND, I believe, the pla
ns show routed spars as an option, (for those who stick to the plans) so I
say try it!
Michael Perez
=0AKaretaker Aero
=0Awww.karetakeraero.com
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| Subject: | Re: to route or not to route |
The bible (book of 1932, vs. 53) recommends a little fillet. Is it simply not
necessary?
Are the "full sections" (center and spar attach points) made by gluing in filler
blocks?
The drawing shows the spar being quartersawn. Is that preferred or necessary?
If so, do the glued on parts need to be as well? As flatsawn wood expands and
contracts at a different rate than quartersawn wood, wondering if the pieces
were much different if it would stress the glue joint. I do know that this is
the reason dowel joints predictably fail (in addition to cross grain problems,
dowels themselves don't stay round as they expand and contract with moisture
variances).
Tools
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I am seeking information on jury strut material and attachment to spar
methods. I understand the off center rational. Is there any advantage
to above versus below center on the strut? Are there any photos or
drawings showing the bracket on the spar? I assume a bolt through the
center of the spar is the least harmful. Where should the second bolt
be located? Is there a rule of thumb for distance from the edge of a
spar to make a bolt penetration? Is a U shaped bracket with a tab
welded on for attachment or two flat strips bolted on better or easier?
I have observed various methods of attaching brackets on the struts at
the Brodhead meets but have never found a spar bracket to observe.
Thank you.
Ralph in SD
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| Subject: | jury strut to spar idea--attach points |
Ralph,
I hope this sketch helps you out.
Mike C.
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| Subject: | to route or not to route |
I like Mike's plan=2C but I priced it out and it was far cheaper to use sol
id spars and route them=2C which I did. Gene do not archive
> From: michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Date: Tue=2C 10 Jan 2012 08:07:08 -0600
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: to route or not to route
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> One man's option--how I did it and how I would do it again.
>
> Mike C.
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| Subject: | Re: jury strut to spar idea--attach points |
Mike,
Based on the spar design and your previous post... I'm guessing this is an archival
sketch as well. Is there a central repository of these available?
This sketch answers my previous question about forming the full thickness sections
as well using 1/2" material as a spar base.
Thanks,
Tools
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Here are my attach brackets. They are machined from aluminum angle. I plan to use
the aluminum stream line jury strut from here:
http://carlsonaircraft.com/struts.html
Michael Perez
Karetaker Aero
www.karetakeraero.com
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| Subject: | photos, sketches |
Chris Tracy has a fantastic Piet photo web site here: http://www.westcoastpiet.com/
Some of my sketches are here: http://www.westcoastpiet.com/images/Mike%20Cuy%20A-65%20Piet/mike_cuy_3.htm
Mike C.
PS- Gene R. is correct about my non-routed 1/2" spruce web-based spar idea--more
expensive than routing a 1" stock for spars.
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| Subject: | Re: to route or not to route |
That's a funny thing about spar material.
Currently, Aircraft Spruce lists the same price per lineal foot for 1" x 4 3/4"
as for 3/4" x 4 3/4". The price for 1/2" x 4 3/4" spar material is only 20% less
(for only half the material), and you will need to also buy some capstrip
material to go with the 1/2" web. So the built-up spar will probably be more expensive
overall.
I recall not too long ago looking at the same comparison, and at that time, the
price for 1/2" and 3/4" were equal, but the 1" spar material was a bit more expensive.
Wicks has a very similar pricing structure as Aircraft Spruce for their
spar material.
Bill C.
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| Subject: | Re: to route or not to route |
Agreed. A few years back when I was deciding what to use for, or how to make, my
spars, I sort of went through the same exercise. I settled on the solid 3/4".
Michael Perez
Karetaker Aero
www.karetakeraero.com
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| Subject: | Re: to route or not to route |
Probably based on the relationship between the sawmiller/kiln and the supplier
(wicks or aircraft spruce).
They probably make both 1 and 3/4 out of 5/4 stock to ensure they can get good
yield. They might make 1/2" out of the same stuff, but spend even more time planing,
so it costs more... for less! Or something like that.
Often times, anything other than 4/4 stock cost more per board foot, just because
the mills don't saw as much of it. 4/4 is typically used to yield 3/4" boards.
However in the case of spars, and the exceptional long lengths, they may
have to use 5/4 to reliably get 3/4. Also, they may just specify 5/4 so they
can get whatever it is they need out of it and not worry about it too much.
No doubt it all seems a bit odd.
Tools
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| Subject: | Re: Wing spar routing jig. |
Tools,
I will be up to the Danford Airplane Factory (your shop) next week! Well, maybe
not next week, but I will definitely be by.
Thanks for showing that to us all, and thanks for the offer to bring it to Brodhead
next summer.
--------
Do Not Archive
Semper Fi,
Terry Hand
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| Subject: | Tube "Improved" gear questions |
Hi Guys:
I am about to go join the fuse halves together and thought I'd get a head
start on the landing gear planning.
I decided the only thing preventing me from building the steel tubing
landing gear is intimidation of working with metal. So, I am gonna have the
gear parts fabricated for me and welded up by a professional welder friend
of mine.
My question is about the springs versus the bungie wrapped 'spring'. Are
there sketches or plans available for the modification somewhere? I am not
sure how to substitute the bungie wrap for the springs. I am assuming all
else is the same...
I plan to order the parts soon and have them working while I am building
the rest of the fuse.
Thanks for the help!
Mark
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Ralph, everyone seems anxious to show how they made their jury strut
brackets without actually answering your questions. Your first question was
"is there any advantage to above versus below center on the strut?" Yes,
there is an advantage to positioning the jury struts toward the outboard
side of the lift strut. What is the advantage? This location requires a
shorter jury strut.
Your second question was where to drill the holes in the spar to mount the
jury strut bracket. Ideally, all holes in the spar should be along the
neutral axis, which is the center of the spar. However, as long as the
holes are small and are within the central third of the spar.
Since everyone else is showing their brackets, I'll show mine:
I made them from aluminum angle from Home Depot, bolted to the spar with AN3
bolts in that central third of the spar mentioned above. On the rear spars,
which are routed, I added a spruce doubler under the bracket. The jury
struts attach to the lift struts with an AN42 eyebolt welded into a hole
drilled through the lift struts as described by Mike Cuy.
Hope this answers your questions,
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mouuntain Lake, Virginia
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ralph
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 12:07 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: jury struts
I am seeking information on jury strut material and attachment to spar
methods. I understand the off center rational. Is there any advantage to
above versus below center on the strut? Are there any photos or drawings
showing the bracket on the spar? I assume a bolt through the center of the
spar is the least harmful. Where should the second bolt be located? Is
there a rule of thumb for distance from the edge of a spar to make a bolt
penetration? Is a U shaped bracket with a tab welded on for attachment or
two flat strips bolted on better or easier? I have observed various methods
of attaching brackets on the struts at the Brodhead meets but have never
found a spar bracket to observe.
Thank you.
Ralph in SD
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It was a beautiful day in Minneapolis today and I decided to go fly, I
was out for 1.5 hourd and not cold at all. When I got back to my hangar
I shut the plane down and a car pulled up and I thought here is another
curious person. The man got and walked over and showed me his I.D. card
and said I'm with the FAA and this is a ramp inspection. He asked for
my pilots liscence , medical card ( told him I was sport pilot he
accepted that immediatly ) registration, operating limitations,
airworthiness, Luckily I had all of that and he was on his way .
I'm at a small country airport, they can be anywhere.
Dick N.
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| Subject: | Tube "Improved" gear questions |
Here you go Mark.
Jack
DSM
NX1929T
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Roberts
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 7:02 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Tube "Improved" gear questions
Hi Guys:
I am about to go join the fuse halves together and thought I'd get a head
start on the landing gear planning.
I decided the only thing preventing me from building the steel tubing
landing gear is intimidation of working with metal. So, I am gonna have the
gear parts fabricated for me and welded up by a professional welder friend
of mine.
My question is about the springs versus the bungie wrapped 'spring'. Are
there sketches or plans available for the modification somewhere? I am not
sure how to substitute the bungie wrap for the springs. I am assuming all
else is the same...
I plan to order the parts soon and have them working while I am building the
rest of the fuse.
Thanks for the help!
Mark
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Showing your 'brackets' in public! I'm shocked!
Do not archive
On Jan 10, 2012, at 8:06 PM, Jack Phillips wrote:
> Ralph, everyone seems anxious to show how they made their jury strut
> brackets without actually answering your questions. Your first
> question was =93is there any advantage to above versus below center on
> the strut?=94 Yes, there is an advantage to positioning the jury
> struts toward the outboard side of the lift strut. What is the
> advantage? This location requires a shorter jury strut.
>
> Your second question was where to drill the holes in the spar to
> mount the jury strut bracket. Ideally, all holes in the spar should
> be along the neutral axis, which is the center of the spar.
> However, as long as the holes are small and are within the central
> third of the spar.
>
> Since everyone else is showing their brackets, I=92ll show mine:
>
> <image002.jpg>
>
> I made them from aluminum angle from Home Depot, bolted to the spar
> with AN3 bolts in that central third of the spar mentioned above.
> On the rear spars, which are routed, I added a spruce doubler under
> the bracket. The jury struts attach to the lift struts with an AN42
> eyebolt welded into a hole drilled through the lift struts as
> described by Mike Cuy.
>
> Hope this answers your questions,
>
> Jack Phillips
> NX899JP
> Smith Mouuntain Lake, Virginia
>
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> ] On Behalf Of Ralph
> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 12:07 PM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: jury struts
>
> I am seeking information on jury strut material and attachment to
> spar methods. I understand the off center rational. Is there any
> advantage to above versus below center on the strut? Are there any
> photos or drawings showing the bracket on the spar? I assume a bolt
> through the center of the spar is the least harmful. Where should
> the second bolt be located? Is there a rule of thumb for distance
> from the edge of a spar to make a bolt penetration? Is a U shaped
> bracket with a tab welded on for attachment or two flat strips
> bolted on better or easier? I have observed various methods of
> attaching brackets on the struts at the Brodhead meets but have
> never found a spar bracket to observe.
>
> Thank you.
> Ralph in SD
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
> http://forums.matronics.com
> http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>
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Hey Dick
What was the FAA dudes name?
-----Original Message-----
From: Dick N <horzpool@goldengate.net>
Sent: Tue, Jan 10, 2012 7:33 pm
Subject: Pietenpol-List: nice day
It was a beautiful day in Minneapolis today and I decided to go fly, I was
out for 1.5 hourd and not cold at all. When I got back to my hangar I shut
the plane down and a car pulled up and I thought here is another curious p
erson. The man got and walked over and showed me his I.D. card and said I'
m with the FAA and this is a ramp inspection. He asked for my pilots lisc
ence , medical card ( told him I was sport pilot he accepted that immediatl
y ) registration, operating limitations, airworthiness, Luckily I had al
l of that and he was on his way .
I'm at a small country airport, they can be anywhere.
Dick N.
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| Subject: | Re: N-Number, When to Apply? |
-
Good luck !
I'm approaching 2 yrs and wing completion.
pushing 83, I wanted a "nice " number. you can go on FAA site and search fo
r nos.
I reserved 3 or 4 ($10 for a yr) I finally stuck with NX1QZ
at my age I thot LSA would be the way to go.
searching the FAA site, found forms for same, sent in same , rejected
She sent me another form- (which said , not for LSA)
gave up went for regular experimental, sent that in with $ 5.00.
Rejected .. said was already reserved for LSA- !!
Had to send- $5 to undo LSA and another $5 for new registration.
It came back ok but now said Pistenpol.
Took another 5 wks to get that fixed.
Aint guvmnt wonderful !
Dave- N11DM-- Starduster Too.
--- On Tue, 1/10/12, Bryan Reed <reed44@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Bryan Reed <reed44@gmail.com>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: N-Number, When to Apply?
Thanks for the info. I think I will go ahead and send in to have it applied
to the plane. Work schedule and God willing, I would like to be in the air
by the end of the year.
- ---Thanks,
- - - ---Bryan
--------
Working Piet N5289B
While I may not always be right, I apologize well.
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le, List Admin.
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| Subject: | Re: N-Number, When to Apply? |
Thanks Dave,
"Pissedenpol",X-Ray,One,Quebec,Zulu. Now that would have been a mouthful. :)
Looks like you are closing in on completion. At only 52 myself, my hat is off
to you Sir. I have a stiff back working on mine and you have a year or two on
me.
Take care and may you only encounter blue sky,
Bryan
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Working Piet N5289B
While I may not always be right, I apologize well.
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| Subject: | Re: Tube "Improved" gear questions |
Mark,
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Wag Aero sells a spring gear kit with tubing and fittings.
I bot one but haven't looked at it..I'm building wings.
Their PN isM-222-100- $ 282.00.
If you can buy or access welding equip, go ahead and tack weld it then let
the pro finish.
heavy wall tubing is not difficult to weld.
That was my plan on a SA-300.
I only had a short summer course (at Purdue), tack welded, then did the hea
vy
gear parts, then welded the whole thing myself.- It flies still.
Dave- N11DM
--- On Wed, 1/11/12, Mark Roberts <mark.rbrts1@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Mark Roberts <mark.rbrts1@gmail.com>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Tube "Improved" gear questions
Hi Guys:
I am about to go join the fuse halves together and thought I'd get a head s
tart on the landing gear planning.
I decided the only thing preventing me from building the steel tubing landi
ng gear is intimidation of working with metal. So, I am gonna have the gear
parts fabricated for me and welded up by a professional welder friend of m
ine.
My question is about the springs versus the bungie wrapped 'spring'. Are th
ere sketches or plans available for the modification somewhere? I am not su
re how to substitute the bungie wrap for the springs. I am assuming all els
e is the same...
I plan to order the parts soon and have them working while I am building th
e rest of the fuse.
Thanks for the help!
Mark
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That was David Nelson from FSDO, MPLS.
----- Original Message -----
From: darmahboy@aol.com
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 7:43 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: nice day
Hey Dick
What was the FAA dudes name?
-----Original Message-----
From: Dick N <horzpool@goldengate.net>
To: pietenpol-list <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Tue, Jan 10, 2012 7:33 pm
Subject: Pietenpol-List: nice day
It was a beautiful day in Minneapolis today and I decided to go fly, I
was out for 1.5 hourd and not cold at all. When I got back to my hangar
I shut the plane down and a car pulled up and I thought here is another
curious person. The man got and walked over and showed me his I.D. card
and said I'm with the FAA and this is a ramp inspection. He asked for
my pilots liscence , medical card ( told him I was sport pilot he
accepted that immediatly ) registration, operating limitations,
airworthiness, Luckily I had all of that and he was on his way .
I'm at a small country airport, they can be anywhere.
Dick N.
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p://forums.matronics.com
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I disagree!-
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Ralph wrote: "I am seeking information on jury strut material and attachmen
t to spar methods."
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The link I attached and Mike C's drawing answers "seeking information on ju
ry strut material."
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Our pictures-answer "attachment to spar methods."
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Ralph wrote: "-Are there any photos or drawings showing the bracket on th
e spar?"
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I think Mike C's drawing and my picture answered that question too.
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Mike C's drawing and my picture I don't believe qualifies as "everyone bein
g anxious to show..."
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...AND, by the way... I'm just giving you are hard time...carry on!
Michael Perez
Karetaker Aero
www.karetakeraero.com
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| Subject: | Re: Tube "Improved" gear questions |
Hey thanks Jack!
Just what I was needing. I yielded to the temptation of going out to the bar
n to build tonight instead of creating my parts list. I am taking my fabrica
tor to lunch next week and I wanted to give him the plans to begin work, so t
his is great!
I bought the Obechi ply flooring today and tomorrow the epoxy gets mixed to j
oin the cross members to the sides. Hope to have the floor in this weekend!
Mark
Sent from my iPad
On Jan 10, 2012, at 5:31 PM, "Jack" <jack@textors.com> wrote:
> Here you go Mark
> Jack
> DSM
> NX1929T
>
>
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-li
st-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Roberts
> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 7:02 PM
> To: pietenpol-list
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Tube "Improved" gear questions
>
> Hi Guys:
>
> I am about to go join the fuse halves together and thought I'd get a head s
tart on the landing gear planning.
>
> I decided the only thing preventing me from building the steel tubing land
ing gear is intimidation of working with metal. So, I am gonna have the gear
parts fabricated for me and welded up by a professional welder friend of mi
ne.
>
> My question is about the springs versus the bungie wrapped 'spring'. Are t
here sketches or plans available for the modification somewhere? I am not su
re how to substitute the bungie wrap for the springs. I am assuming all else
is the same...
>
> I plan to order the parts soon and have them working while I am building t
he rest of the fuse.
>
> Thanks for the help!
>
> Mark
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
> http://forums.matronics.com
> http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>
> <spring_gear_848_129.jpg>
> <Die Springs 2.jpg>
> <Spring 3.jpg>
> <Spring Gear.jpg>
> <strut 2.jpg>
> <Strut 3.pdf>
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