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1. 03:51 AM - Re: Paint scheme preview (helspersew@aol.com)
2. 04:11 AM - Re: Paint scheme preview (Jack Phillips)
3. 04:32 AM - Re: Paint scheme preview (Mark Stanley)
4. 05:10 AM - Paint scheme preview (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP])
5. 05:17 AM - Re: West Coast get-together (Gboothe5)
6. 05:28 AM - August 1969 American Aircraft Modeler magazine. (Gottfried F. Zojer)
7. 05:53 AM - Bill's Piet (Douwe Blumberg)
8. 06:02 AM - Re: August 1969 American Aircraft Modeler magazine. (Mark Stanley)
9. 06:13 AM - Re: Paint scheme preview (Michael Perez)
10. 06:15 AM - Re: Paint scheme preview (BYD)
11. 06:41 AM - Re: Paint scheme preview (Amsafetyc)
12. 06:59 AM - Re: Paint scheme preview (BYD)
13. 07:41 AM - Re: Re: Paint scheme preview (Michael Perez)
14. 07:49 AM - Re: Paint scheme preview (Piet2112)
15. 07:53 AM - Re: Paint scheme preview (Piet2112)
16. 08:13 AM - "A" cowling (bender)
17. 08:24 AM - Re: Paint scheme preview (Don Emch)
18. 08:28 AM - Re: Paint scheme preview (bender)
19. 08:44 AM - Re: "A" cowling (helspersew@aol.com)
20. 09:36 AM - Re: "A" cowling (bender)
21. 09:50 AM - Re: Paint scheme preview (Bill Church)
22. 10:07 AM - Re: Paint scheme preview (BYD)
23. 10:12 AM - My Piet is out of long term storage (John Greenlee)
24. 11:03 AM - Re: My Piet is out of long term storage (Bill Church)
25. 11:07 AM - Re: My Piet is out of long term storage (Michael Perez)
26. 11:25 AM - Re: My Piet is out of long term storage (Catdesigns)
27. 11:37 AM - Re: Re: Paint scheme preview (Dan Yocum)
28. 11:55 AM - Re: Re: Paint scheme preview (Ryan Mueller)
29. 12:39 PM - Re: "A" cowling (l.morlock)
30. 01:10 PM - update on NX53WE (Bob edson)
31. 01:11 PM - Re: "A" cowling (Gene Rambo)
32. 01:13 PM - Re: Paint scheme preview (Gene Rambo)
33. 03:18 PM - Re: update on NX53WE (Michael Perez)
34. 03:55 PM - Re: "A" cowling (bender)
35. 03:59 PM - Re: "A" cowling (helspersew@aol.com)
36. 04:01 PM - Re: "A" cowling (helspersew@aol.com)
37. 04:03 PM - Re: update on NX53WE (helspersew@aol.com)
38. 04:16 PM - Re: Paint scheme preview (helspersew@aol.com)
39. 04:25 PM - Re: update on NX53WE (BYD)
40. 04:28 PM - Re: Bill's Piet (BYD)
41. 04:50 PM - Re: West Coast get-together (Michael Groah)
42. 05:07 PM - Re: Re: My Piet is out of long term storage (Gboothe5)
43. 05:34 PM - Re: West Coast get-together (Gboothe5)
44. 06:25 PM - Re: "A" cowling (Gboothe5)
45. 06:39 PM - Re: update on NX53WE (Jack Phillips)
46. 07:17 PM - Re: "A" cowling (RickBright)
47. 07:51 PM - Painting/re-painting (Ozarkflyer)
48. 08:08 PM - Re: FOR SALE (PROJECT) (bcolleran)
49. 08:22 PM - Re: Painting/re-painting (Haught & Assoc. Inc.)
50. 08:57 PM - Width of the Cuy wooden gear modification (Mark Roberts)
51. 09:48 PM - Re: West Coast get-together (taildrags)
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| Subject: | Re: Paint scheme preview |
Bill,
Wow a great-looking Piet. Always have liked that green. Just made it my new
desktop!! Congratulations!!
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
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Sent: Wed, Jan 11, 2012 9:33 pm
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Paint scheme preview
Well, there's still a lot of work to be done, but here's a shot of the Piet
at
he airport with all the major pieces in formation.
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| Subject: | Paint scheme preview |
Absolutely Beautiful! Where is it?
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of BYD
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 10:31 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Paint scheme preview
Well, there's still a lot of work to be done, but here's a shot of the Piet
at the airport with all the major pieces in formation.
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| Subject: | Re: Paint scheme preview |
Now that's a nice looking Piet, Great job!
Mark S
Japan
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From: BYD
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 12:30 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Paint scheme preview
Well, there's still a lot of work to be done, but here's a shot of the Piet
at the airport with all the major pieces in formation.
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| Subject: | Paint scheme preview |
You've come a long way Bill and it's paying off in spades! You'll like this
one from the air too as you won't have that bottom wing blocking your view
like the Boredom Fighter:) Do you still have the BF by chance?
Great looking Pietenpol you've created!
Mike C.
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| Subject: | West Coast get-together |
Oscar,
The West Coast Piet Gathering has ALWAYS been the first weekend of June! ;-)
So, mark June 2nd as your target date. Frazier Lake, 1C9, is your
destination. This should be a special year, as I am pretty sure Mike Groah
will be there with his beautiful, new Corvair powered Piet that he and his
dad are finishing up!
Gary from Cool
NX308MB
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Oscar Zuniga
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 9:10 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: West Coast get-together
Sorry if this is a repeat, but has a date been set for the
West Coast Piet get-together? I seem to remember that it
would be held at some lake or the other but I can't remember
where or when. You have to remember that I'm 60 years old
now and things get lost easily and quickly in the recesses of
my brain.
I still don't have Scout up here but am going to try to fly
the airplane up to Oregon sometime in the spring, thus the
reason for my inquiry. It might all play into a workable
schedule.
In an ideal world, we would have Jim Markle up in northern
California at the same time as the get-together and could
enjoy his company, too.
Oscar Zuniga
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
Flying Squirrel N2069Z "Rocket"
Medford, OR
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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| Subject: | August 1969 American Aircraft Modeler magazine. |
Hello to everyone,
It s my first post to this mailing list so apologies if I m asking for
something what was asked already.
Well what I m basically looking for is a plan of Pietenpol Air Camper like
shown on the following webpage.
http://www.airplanesandrockets.com/airplanes/pietenpol-air-camper-aug-1969-AAM.htmand
according to the writer
it is a scan from the August 1969 American Aircraft Modeler magazine.
Hope somebody can advise
Thanks for any feedback
Gottfried
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Beautiful looking plane Bill, congratulations!!
Very cool to see new Ford added to the roster!!!
Keep us up to date as the big day approaches.
Douwe
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| Subject: | Re: August 1969 American Aircraft Modeler magazine. |
Hi Gottfried,
Welcome, I just had a look at the site and I noticed that there is a
link to the AMA plans site.
Have you checked with them as to the availibility?
If you want a 28=9D span Piet, try the one at =98Small
Flying Arts=99, http://smallflyingarts.com/free-plans/
Good Luck
Mark S
Japan
From: Gottfried F. Zojer
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 10:25 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: August 1969 American Aircraft Modeler magazine.
Hello to everyone,
It s my first post to this mailing list so apologies if I m asking for
something what was asked already.
Well what I m basically looking for is a plan of Pietenpol Air Camper
like shown on the following webpage.
http://www.airplanesandrockets.com/airplanes/pietenpol-air-camper-aug-196
9-AAM.htm and according to the writer
it is a scan from the August 1969 American Aircraft Modeler magazine.
Hope somebody can advise
Thanks for any feedback
Gottfried
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| Subject: | Re: Paint scheme preview |
Looks great! Very clean looking...simple yet elegant.
I see the axle extends out past the wheels some, curious to know why.
Michael Perez
Karetaker Aero
www.karetakeraero.com
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| Subject: | Re: Paint scheme preview |
> Nice looking Piet. Are those Harley Davidson front wheels?
> Dick N
Thanks Dick, I used Yamaha 650 wheels, disks, calipers and mounted the master cylinder
from the handle-bars on the rudder-bar so the total system would have
the same power/feel as the motorcycle.
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> Absolutely Beautiful! Where is it?
>
> Jack Phillips
> NX899JP
> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
Thanks also Jack (and all the others), this picture was taken at the Tacoma Narrows
Airport in the State of Washington (aerocarjake aka Jake Schultz is a nearby
builder).
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> You've come a long way Bill and it's paying off in spades! You'll like this one
from the air too as you won't have that bottom wing blocking your view like
the Boredom Fighter:) Do you still have the BF by chance?
> Great looking Pietenpol you've created!
>
> Mike C.
Hey Mike, thanks its been a long build but enjoyable. My good friend Don Wainwright
fabricated the wings while I made two fuselages and modified two engines
so its possible we may see a sister ship some day. Youre right about the lower
wing missing and I will enjoy that. I just hope it flies well. The BF ended
up in Chile of all places.
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| Subject: | Re: Paint scheme preview |
Great looking Piet good job!
John
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On Jan 11, 2012, at 10:30 PM, "BYD" <billsayre@ymail.com> wrote:
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| Subject: | Re: Paint scheme preview |
> "speedbrake(at)sbcglobal.n"]Looks great! Very clean looking...simple yet elegant.
>
> I see the axle extends out past the wheels some, curious to know why.
>
> Michael Perez
> Karetaker Aero
> www.karetakeraero.com
>
Michael because I used stock Yamaha 650 motorcycle wheels, the hubs are not as
wide as some say they should be on a plane. On the other hand, I have heard
of them being used successfully so Im uncertain which is true. The extensions
are my way of hedging my bet and if I can determine that wider hubs are needed
(without damage to the axles) then I could fabricate wider hubs and mount them
on the same axle. If they prove adequate, I can always cut off the excess
so they look more reasonable. I had also thought they might make a good step,
but I dont see the need for that.
Bill
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| Subject: | Re: Paint scheme preview |
I understand...good plan. I like the step idea too.
-I don't have them in front of me, but I believe I made my hubs no shorte
r than 6". (Outside flange face to outside flange face) Buchanan's, who sup
plied the rims and spokes seemed to think 6" was a good number. (Going from
memory.)
If you have a more detailed picture of your wheel/hub/brake assembly, I wou
ld love to see it.
Again, nice plane.
Michael Perez
=0AKaretaker Aero
=0Awww.karetakeraero.com
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| Subject: | Re: Paint scheme preview |
But of course, a foot peg for Mary Beth!
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Curt Merdan
Flower Mound, TX
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| Subject: | Re: Paint scheme preview |
Bill, it looks great! I bet it sound great too!
Pockety-Pockety
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Hey guys...
on the model a cowling.. the drawing shows the wood disk attached to the front
of the engine.. then the 2 sides and bottom and a cone in the front..
It looks like the original intent was to screw the aluminum sheet to the wood disk.
but i've seen the cone riveted to the sides and bottom on the west coast piet site..
do you guys have the wood disk??
is the cowl attached to the front at all??
I'm working om mine.. and am attaching to the wood disk now.. but..if there's a
better way ?
jeff
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| Subject: | Re: Paint scheme preview |
Very very nice! What is the prop? Or where did you get the plan for carving it.
it looks like the old Lawrence and Fahlin style props that Mr. Pietenpol used.
Nice.
Don Emch
NX899DE
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| Subject: | Re: Paint scheme preview |
Looks great..! congrats !
i looked for one of those mags..really wanted one...hard to come by
jeff
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Jeff,
I had all these same questions when I did mine. I had to make that wood dis
c 3 times before I settled on about 1/2" thick spruce board glued to 1/8" p
lywood. Then I had to faddiddle around trying to get the correct angle on i
t all the way around the circumference. That angle was not constant, depend
ing on how the side and bottom cowls approached it. (I made my side and bot
tom cowl all one piece a-la-Walt Bowe from California.) I kept the board in
there so I had something to screw the aluminum disc and cowls to. After i
t was all together I removed the bolts that held the wood disc to the engin
e, so that the engine vibration could not be transferred to the cowl pieces
. And that engine really jumps, up off the ash engine mounts, by about 1" o
n start-up, against the springs on the engine hold-down bolts. That cowling
was one of the most challenging parts of the airplane. Ended up making som
e of the pieces twice. I guess if was all riveted together then maybe you c
ould get rid of the wood disc? But if that were the case, lets say you want
ed to remove your cowlings. I would have to remove the prop and prop flange
from the engine first, because the hole in my aluminum cone is smaller tha
n the Comntinental-style (6-bolt) prop flange.
Put your thinking cap on.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
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Subject: Pietenpol-List: "A" cowling
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Hey guys...
n the model a cowling.. the drawing shows the wood disk attached to the fro
nt
f the engine.. then the 2 sides and bottom and a cone in the front..
t looks like the original intent was to screw the aluminum sheet to the woo
d
isk.
ut i've seen the cone riveted to the sides and bottom on the west coast pie
t
ite..
o you guys have the wood disk??
is the cowl attached to the front at all??
I'm working om mine.. and am attaching to the wood disk now.. but..if there
's a
etter way ?
jeff
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So you did screw the cowl to the disc... i made the bottom one piece too.. and
was screwing it all to the wood disc... maybe i'm heading in the right direction
it looked like you had rivets in yours in the photos... i'll look again
Thanks Dan
jeff
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| Subject: | Re: Paint scheme preview |
Bill
Nice!
Bill
(couldn't resist the symmetry)
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| Subject: | Re: Paint scheme preview |
> Don Emch"]Very very nice! What is the prop? Or where did you get the plan for
carving it. it looks like the old Lawrence and Fahlin style props that Mr.
Pietenpol used. Nice.
>
> Don Emch
> NX899DE
You're right Don, the prop is the same profile and airfoil decided on by Bernard
and the type he had carved by Ole Fahlin. This particular propeller was carved
by Chad Willie some years ago.
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| Subject: | My Piet is out of long term storage |
Hello all,
I've got the Piet back out of long term storage and into my workshop. I am
going to build a new wooden gear, so a few questions:
1. Who out there is building hubs for wire wheels similar to the
Pavliga pattern. My original wheels do not have brakes so I am considering
building a similar set of wheels with a flange for mounting brakes.
2. I never found a good way to jig the wooden (29 plans) gear. I got
it together by trial and error, eventually, but am looking for a more
fool-resistant way to jig it to get a more predictable result.
3. I am thinking about adding brakes similar to those designed and
carefully engineered by the great and exalted Larry Williams. Does anybody
have any sketches/drawings/dimensions for these?
Thanks! And I am anxiously awaiting your collective sage advice.
JMG
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| Subject: | Re: My Piet is out of long term storage |
Here are answers to two out of your three questions:
1. Ken Perkins makes very nice wheel hubs:
http://www.mykitplane.com/Planes/photoGalleryList2.cfm?AlbumID=8
and Airdrome Aeroplanes also offers them for sale:
http://www.airdromeaeroplanes.com/heavydutywheels.html
2. Chris Tracy has a well documented description of setting up and building his
wooden gear at his superb website:
http://westcoastpiet.com/wood_gear_construction.htm
Bill C.
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| Subject: | Re: My Piet is out of long term storage |
Well John, I can tell you how I handled mine...you'll need to decide if it is helpful
or not.
I don't know of anyone building wire wheel hubs. If you have access to the tools,
and the drive to learn, you can fabricate your own to your exact needs. (Such
as the brake mounting flanges you describe.) I made my own and it was not difficult
at all.
Afraid I can't help much in the jigging of the legs department. I have a tile floor
in my shop so I used those 1' squares as a guide along with some masking
tape to lay out my gear. I had the fuselage set right side up, ( some build with
the fuselage up side down) at the deck angle I wanted with the tail wheel height
figured in. Once positioned over my center line marked on the floor, using
plumb bobs, I stuck masking tape on the grid floor and marked my reference
lines and measurements on those. I made and positioned my ash blocks on the floor
and worked up to the fuselage.
I have no intell. on WW's brake set up, I used simple go kart band brakes. I plan
to only use the brakes to keep from rolling down hill into the fuel pit or
another plane, so I felt a ton of stopping power was not needed.
If interested, contact me off list and I can provide more details and photos of
what I have.
Good luck.
Michael Perez
Karetaker Aero
www.karetakeraero.com
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John
What a treat to hear your back in the Pietenpol community. I started building my
Pietenpol about the time you were finishing your plane. I always wondered what
happened to you.
As Bill already said I have documented the build of the wood landing gear on my
website. You will have to modify the procedure slightly for a finished plane
but it should make you rebuild much easier.
I have some sketches on the webpage that Santiago Morete from Argentina sent me
that Dan Helsper sent him. (got to love the internet). They are similar to the
wheels Larry Williams built.
http://www.westcoastpiet.com/images/Santiago%20Morete/pictures.htm
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Chris
Sacramento, CA
WestCoastPiet.com
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On 01/12/2012 12:03 PM, BYD wrote:
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "BYD"<billsayre@ymail.com>
>
>
>> Don Emch"]Very very nice! What is the prop? Or where did you get the plan
for carving it. it looks like the old Lawrence and Fahlin style props that Mr.
Pietenpol used. Nice.
>>
>> Don Emch
>> NX899DE
>
>
> You're right Don, the prop is the same profile and airfoil decided on by Bernard
and the type he had carved by Ole Fahlin. This particular propeller was carved
by Chad Willie some years ago.
>
Ole and Lena got married. On their honeymoon trip they were nearing
Minneapolis when Ole put his hand on Lena's knee. Giggling, Lena Said,
"Ole, you can go farther if ya vant to"... so Ole drove to Duluth.
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And, I'm sorry. ;-)
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Lake Wobegon to Duluth via Minneapolis? Must been one heckuva dowry to pay
for such extravagance...
Ryan
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On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 1:33 PM, Dan Yocum <yocum137@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> On 01/12/2012 12:03 PM, BYD wrote:
>
>> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "BYD"<billsayre@ymail.com>
>>
>>
>> Don Emch"]Very very nice! What is the prop? Or where did you get the
>>> plan for carving it. it looks like the old Lawrence and Fahlin style props
>>> that Mr. Pietenpol used. Nice.
>>>
>>> Don Emch
>>> NX899DE
>>>
>>
>>
>> You're right Don, the prop is the same profile and airfoil decided on by
>> Bernard and the type he had carved by Ole Fahlin. This particular
>> propeller was carved by Chad Willie some years ago.
>>
>>
> Ole and Lena got married. On their honeymoon trip they were nearing
> Minneapolis when Ole put his hand on Lena's knee. Giggling, Lena Said,
> "Ole, you can go farther if ya vant to"... so Ole drove to Duluth.
>
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> And, I'm sorry. ;-)
>
>
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Jeff, here's a picture of my cowling up in Columbus. I have a wood disk,
but it floats on the front of the engine, not attached. The two studs in
the front of the engine to locate the flywheel housing are countersunk into
the wood disk, which helps give it support and keep it in position.
Larry Morlock
----- Original Message -----
From: "bender" <jfaith@solairusaviation.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 11:10 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: "A" cowling
> <jfaith@solairusaviation.com>
>
> Hey guys...
> on the model a cowling.. the drawing shows the wood disk attached to the
> front of the engine.. then the 2 sides and bottom and a cone in the
> front..
> It looks like the original intent was to screw the aluminum sheet to the
> wood disk.
> but i've seen the cone riveted to the sides and bottom on the west coast
> piet site..
> do you guys have the wood disk??
>
> is the cowl attached to the front at all??
>
> I'm working om mine.. and am attaching to the wood disk now.. but..if
> there's a better way ?
>
> jeff
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=363167#363167
>
>
>
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We have the tail feathers and wings painted and ready to start covering
the center section. Then start taking motor and gear off fusalege and
cover it. Then the reassembly starts. I took some pictures but the
lighting on the wing is not good so the yellow is not true to color., it
is good on the tail so the wing color is the same. Will see you at
Brodhead I hope. Bob
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The wood disc only attaches to the engine until the cowling is built=2C the
n you remove the bolts (READ the plans=2C LOL) Also=2C there is no need to
bevel the edge of the disc because the cowl pieces are flanged and the fla
nges screw into the front face of the disc (unless you just want to make it
hard) Gene do not archive
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: "A" cowling
> From: jfaith@solairusaviation.com
> Date: Thu=2C 12 Jan 2012 08:10:31 -0800
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>
om>
>
> Hey guys...
> on the model a cowling.. the drawing shows the wood disk attached to the
front of the engine.. then the 2 sides and bottom and a cone in the front..
> It looks like the original intent was to screw the aluminum sheet to the
wood disk.
> but i've seen the cone riveted to the sides and bottom on the west coast
piet site..
> do you guys have the wood disk??
>
> is the cowl attached to the front at all??
>
> I'm working om mine.. and am attaching to the wood disk now.. but..if the
re's a better way ?
>
> jeff
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=363167#363167
>
>
>
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You going to steal this scheme now and repaint yours=2C Dan????? (mean man)
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To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Paint scheme preview
From: helspersew@aol.com
Bill=2C
Wow a great-looking Piet. Always have liked that green. Just made it my new
desktop!! Congratulations!!
Dan Helsper
Puryear=2C TN
-----Original Message-----
From: BYD <billsayre@ymail.com>
Sent: Wed=2C Jan 11=2C 2012 9:33 pm
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Paint scheme preview
Well=2C there's still a lot of work to be done=2C but here's a shot of the
Piet at
the airport with all the major pieces in formation.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=363123#363123
Attachments:
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What I like:
-
The aluminum cowling looks great. Any chance I can see more pictures of it?
I'm wanting to see how it looks from the front, bottom, head on, etc.
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The airfoil shaped steps. I assume these stay put...or do they slide into t
he fuselage?
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The P-51 model under the table!
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The paint...wow!
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What I DON'T like:
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I'm not as far along as you.
Michael Perez
Karetaker Aero
www.karetakeraero.com
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thanks guys...
i think i've got it now..
come on Gene..."read the plans " ?? i've looked over my plans a thousand times...its
the most read magazine i have from 1932...its just not there
jeff
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Larry, It looks like your aluminum cone overlaps your cowling? My cowling a
ctually overlaps my cone. Maybe I did it the hard way.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
-----Original Message-----
From: l.morlock <l.morlock@att.net>
Sent: Thu, Jan 12, 2012 2:40 pm
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: "A" cowling
Jeff, here's a picture of my cowling up in Columbus. I have a wood disk,
ut it floats on the front of the engine, not attached. The two studs in
he front of the engine to locate the flywheel housing are countersunk into
he wood disk, which helps give it support and keep it in position.
Larry Morlock
---- Original Message -----
rom: "bender" <jfaith@solairusaviation.com>
o: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
ent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 11:10 AM
ubject: Pietenpol-List: "A" cowling
<jfaith@solairusaviation.com>
Hey guys...
on the model a cowling.. the drawing shows the wood disk attached to the
front of the engine.. then the 2 sides and bottom and a cone in the
front..
It looks like the original intent was to screw the aluminum sheet to the
wood disk.
but i've seen the cone riveted to the sides and bottom on the west coast
piet site..
do you guys have the wood disk??
is the cowl attached to the front at all??
I'm working om mine.. and am attaching to the wood disk now.. but..if
there's a better way ?
jeff
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=363167#363167
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Gene,
Lets see a photo. I don't get it :O)
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
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-----Original Message-----
From: Gene Rambo <generambo@msn.com>
Sent: Thu, Jan 12, 2012 3:12 pm
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: "A" cowling
The wood disc only attaches to the engine until the cowling is built, then
you remove the bolts (READ the plans, LOL) Also, there is no need to bevel
the edge of the disc because the cowl pieces are flanged and the flanges s
crew into the front face of the disc (unless you just want to make it hard)
Gene
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> Subject: Pietenpol-List: "A" cowling
> From: jfaith@solairusaviation.com
> Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 08:10:31 -0800
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>
om>
>
> Hey guys...
> on the model a cowling.. the drawing shows the wood disk attached to the
front of the engine.. then the 2 sides and bottom and a cone in the front..
> It looks like the original intent was to screw the aluminum sheet to the
wood disk.
> but i've seen the cone riveted to the sides and bottom on the west coast
piet site..
> do you guys have the wood disk??
>
> is the cowl attached to the front at all??
>
> I'm working om mine.. and am attaching to the wood disk now.. but..if the
re's a better way ?
>
> jeff
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=363167#363167
>
>
>
>
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Very cool Bob!! You should be very proud of that bird. Is that Stewart's pa
int?
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
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-----Original Message-----
From: Bob edson <robertse@centurytel.net>
Sent: Thu, Jan 12, 2012 3:14 pm
Subject: Pietenpol-List: update on NX53WE
We have the tail feathers and wings painted and ready to start covering the
center section. Then start taking motor and gear off fusalege and cover it
. Then the reassembly starts. I took some pictures but the lighting on the
wing is not good so the yellow is not true to color., it is good on the tai
l so the wing color is the same. Will see you at Brodhead I hope. Bob
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You make sure and tell Will that I'm for sure go'in to catch him this year!
!
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-----Original Message-----
From: Gene Rambo <generambo@msn.com>
Sent: Thu, Jan 12, 2012 3:13 pm
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Paint scheme preview
You going to steal this scheme now and repaint yours, Dan????? (mean man)
Gene
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Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Paint scheme preview
From: helspersew@aol.com
Bill,
Wow a great-looking Piet. Always have liked that green. Just made it my new
desktop!! Congratulations!!
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
-----Original Message-----
From: BYD <billsayre@ymail.com>
Sent: Wed, Jan 11, 2012 9:33 pm
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Paint scheme preview
Well, there's still a lot of work to be done, but here's a shot of the Piet
at
he airport with all the major pieces in formation.
ead this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=363123#363123
ttachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/covered_airport_194.jpg
target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
://forums.matronics.com
lank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution
st" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
ttp://forums.matronics.com
"_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
-= - The Pietenpol-List Email Forum -
-= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse
-= the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription,
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-= Photoshare, and much much more:
-
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Nice! It's a good feeling isn't it?
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Will Do Douwe. Thanks
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| Subject: | Re: West Coast get-together |
Oscar... As Gary said the West Coast Pietenpol Gathering has been held on t
he first Saturday of June which this year would be June 2nd.- It would be
a great honor to have you and Scout at the gathering.- The gathering is
hosted by Charlie Miller at Frazier lake Air Park, near Hollister CA.- I'
ll get this year's flier out soon and make sure you get one.- =0A=0A-
-- As Gary mentioned I would love to get my plane done and the hours fl
own off so I can make it to the gathering, but it's going to be a stretch.
- I should definitely have it flying but I don't know if I'll be able to
get the 40 hours flown off, but I'll sure give it a try. --=0A---
And you're right, it'd be great if Markle could be out here at that time t
oo.- He attended the gathering the year before last and it was quite the
honor.- =0A=0AMike Groah=0ATulare CA
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| Subject: | Re: My Piet is out of long term storage |
John,
The profile of your Piet has been on my bulletin board for close to four
years! Not to diminish The Chris Tracy method, as it has a proven track
record, but for a completed fuselage, you may wish to just prop up the
fuselage on saw horses, until you get the desired ramp angle, and cut the
legs to fit. With a table saw, it only takes a couple cuts!
Gary from Cool
NX308MB
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Church
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 11:01 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: My Piet is out of long term storage
Here are answers to two out of your three questions:
1. Ken Perkins makes very nice wheel hubs:
http://www.mykitplane.com/Planes/photoGalleryList2.cfm?AlbumID=8
and Airdrome Aeroplanes also offers them for sale:
http://www.airdromeaeroplanes.com/heavydutywheels.html
2. Chris Tracy has a well documented description of setting up and building
his wooden gear at his superb website:
http://westcoastpiet.com/wood_gear_construction.htm
Bill C.
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| Subject: | West Coast get-together |
Frazier Lake when Jim Markle was there.
Frazier Lake '10.JPG
Frazier Lake when Jim wasn't there.
Frazer Lake 11 010.jpg
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael
Groah
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 4:47 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: West Coast get-together
Oscar... As Gary said the West Coast Pietenpol Gathering has been held on
the first Saturday of June which this year would be June 2nd. It would be a
great honor to have you and Scout at the gathering. The gathering is hosted
by Charlie Miller at Frazier lake Air Park, near Hollister CA. I'll get
this year's flier out soon and make sure you get one.
As Gary mentioned I would love to get my plane done and the hours flown
off so I can make it to the gathering, but it's going to be a stretch. I
should definitely have it flying but I don't know if I'll be able to get the
40 hours flown off, but I'll sure give it a try.
And you're right, it'd be great if Markle could be out here at that time
too. He attended the gathering the year before last and it was quite the
honor.
Mike Groah
Tulare CA
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Larry,
You should be about ready to fly!!
Gary
NX308MB
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of l.morlock
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 12:37 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: "A" cowling
Jeff, here's a picture of my cowling up in Columbus. I have a wood disk,
but it floats on the front of the engine, not attached. The two studs in
the front of the engine to locate the flywheel housing are countersunk into
the wood disk, which helps give it support and keep it in position.
Larry Morlock
----- Original Message -----
From: "bender" <jfaith@solairusaviation.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 11:10 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: "A" cowling
> <jfaith@solairusaviation.com>
>
> Hey guys...
> on the model a cowling.. the drawing shows the wood disk attached to the
> front of the engine.. then the 2 sides and bottom and a cone in the
> front..
> It looks like the original intent was to screw the aluminum sheet to the
> wood disk.
> but i've seen the cone riveted to the sides and bottom on the west coast
> piet site..
> do you guys have the wood disk??
>
> is the cowl attached to the front at all??
>
> I'm working om mine.. and am attaching to the wood disk now.. but..if
> there's a better way ?
>
> jeff
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=363167#363167
>
>
>
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| Subject: | update on NX53WE |
Looking very nice, Bob! There are suddenly a lot of very nice looking
Pietenpolsgetting close to completion. This year should be a very good
Brodhead, if all these new Pietenpols make it there.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob edson
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 4:05 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: update on NX53WE
We have the tail feathers and wings painted and ready to start covering the
center section. Then start taking motor and gear off fusalege and cover it.
Then the reassembly starts. I took some pictures but the lighting on the
wing is not good so the yellow is not true to color., it is good on the tail
so the wing color is the same. Will see you at Brodhead I hope. Bob
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Not sure if this helps, there is a YouTube video titled " Howard Henderson's Model
A Ford Powered Pientenpol", at 1.09 into the video it shows how he attached
the sheet metal.
I don't even have my plans yet so I have no idea what they show and not sure if
this will help you. It just looked to me the way Howard did it is a pretty neat
job, if this is what you are looking for.....
Rick
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| Subject: | Painting/re-painting |
Any of you guys re-paint your Piet? I mean like painting over the original. If
so, how was it done? Strip off the old...just paint over the old or a variation
of both.
Just wondering.
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DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Re: FOR SALE (PROJECT) |
Hey guys thanks for all the kind words. Putting the project up for sale was not
a easy decision!
The plane is located in East Kingston NH. About a hour north of boston and a hour
south of portland me.
I have attached two pictures of how it sits right now.
Bill
412-874-7726
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| Subject: | Re: Painting/re-painting |
What is the old finish? What is it's condition? I am repanting my Pacer now. It
is polytone with minor cracking in places. I am throughly with TSP, then working
the cracks with MEK. Then cleaning with Stewarts EkoClean. Next step will
be a coat of EkoPrime, then sanding. Another coat of EkoPrime, sanding again
if needed, and then top coating with Stewart's EkoPoly.
M. Haught
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| Subject: | Width of the Cuy wooden gear modification |
Hi everybody
I'm making the split gear version and am in process of planning out the buil
d. I'm wondering how wide Mike Cuy made his modification to the wooden gear,
as I think I'd like a wide spread to the gear like his, but with a split ge
ar design.
Thanks!
Mark
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| Subject: | Re: West Coast get-together |
Ouch. Looks like I might be a week too late for this one. Right now the academic
calendar is showing the week between quarters to be June 8-17 and that's when
I'll probably be moving the airplane. However, I'll have to see how finals
go the week before June 8.
I am enrolled in the graduate program at Cal Poly, attempting to get my master's
degree in fire protection engineering. Can't let up because at my age, if I
slow down or stop I'll forget everything I've learned and will have to start
over again. It's all I can do to remember how to land an airplane anymore these
days ;o)
At any rate, I can probably stop in at Frazier Lake Airpark whether it's get-together
time or not. I'm thinking of diverting to San Luis Obispo to visit the
Cal Poly campus anyway, and it's not that much of a stretch to go on up to Frazier
from there before getting back on the Interstate 5 route that I plan to
take most of the way north.
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Oscar Zuniga
San Antonio, TX
Air Camper NX41CC
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