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1. 04:23 AM - Re: Re: "A" cowling (helspersew@aol.com)
2. 04:35 AM - Re: Re: "A" cowling (helspersew@aol.com)
3. 05:05 AM - Re: Re: My Piet is out of long term storage (Mark Stanley)
4. 05:07 AM - Re: Re: My Piet is out of long term storage (Mark Stanley)
5. 05:13 AM - Re: 2.5 hour Piet DVD available (Mark Stanley)
6. 05:36 AM - Re: more on deck angle and landing gears (Bryan Reed)
7. 06:30 AM - John Greenlee's Piet (Don Emch)
8. 06:32 AM - Re: Re: My Piet is out of long term storage (Gene Rambo)
9. 07:08 AM - Re: leaf springs for tailwheels (pineymb)
10. 07:27 AM - C-90 (Douwe Blumberg)
11. 08:00 AM - My Piet is out of long term storage (helspersew@aol.com)
12. 10:01 AM - Re: C-90 (Jack Textor)
13. 10:35 AM - I LIKE This Guy!!!! (Stu Brown)
14. 11:10 AM - Re: I LIKE This Guy!!!! (Ryan Mueller)
15. 11:13 AM - Re: My Piet is out of long term storage (Ryan Mueller)
16. 11:23 AM - Re: C-90 (Michael Perez)
17. 11:25 AM - Re: I LIKE This Guy!!!! (airlion)
18. 11:32 AM - Re: I LIKE This Guy!!!! (Gene Rambo)
19. 11:56 AM - Re: C-90 (Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB)
20. 12:21 PM - Re: C-90 (Michael Perez)
21. 12:34 PM - Re: Re: more on deck angle and landing gears (KM Heide CPO/FAAOP)
22. 02:27 PM - :) (Ryan Mueller)
23. 03:29 PM - Re: Re: more on deck angle and landing gears (Dan Yocum)
24. 03:46 PM - Water bombing (Gary Boothe)
25. 04:02 PM - Re: :) (K5YAC)
26. 04:24 PM - Re: Re: more on deck angle and landing gears (Gary Boothe)
27. 04:28 PM - what Piets sell for (Oscar Zuniga)
28. 06:34 PM - Re: Re: more on deck angle and landing gears (Kenneth M. Heide)
29. 06:40 PM - Re: more on deck angle and landing gears (kevinpurtee)
30. 07:58 PM - off topic So Cali Pieters Invite to a walk in Anheim convention center (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
31. 08:59 PM - Re: Re: more on deck angle and landing gears (Jack Phillips)
32. 10:20 PM - 2012 Ohio Piet boxing tournement and fly-in (shad bell)
33. 10:31 PM - Re: Re: more on deck angle and landing gears (Kenneth M. Heide)
34. 11:06 PM - Re: Pietenpol list (Kenneth M. Heide)
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That leaky cam end, conveniently, is slightly recessed. Per the advice of K
en Perkins, I made a round aluminum disc slightly oversize, gubered it up w
ith silicone and tapped it into the recess. Stopped that leak cold! Also, o
ne of those transmission bolt holes was drilled back to the oil galley, cre
ating a leak. I bought a special bolt from Mcmaster Carr with a large flang
ed head with a gasket on it. That stopped that leak also.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
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From: Gene Rambo <generambo@msn.com>
Sent: Fri, Jan 13, 2012 8:17 pm
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: "A" cowling
I made a brass piece and bolted it on to cover the end of the cam (with a g
asket under the brass). I had to notch my wood piece for the cam cover, bu
t I did not want it leaking.
Gene
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> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: "A" cowling
> From: jfaith@solairusaviation.com
> Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 05:32:04 -0800
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
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> totally...Gene...
> it was funny to me..jab away..
> I had another thought..
> the end of the camshaft is covered by the wood disk..and it does leak a b
it when its running if not covered
> did you guys put something over the camshaft ?.. i was thinking the wood
disk and a gasket bolted to the engine took care of that...
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It's like pull'in teeth!
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From: Gboothe5 <gboothe5@comcast.net>
Sent: Fri, Jan 13, 2012 8:41 pm
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: "A" cowling
Ah-ha!! We now know that Gene has a piece of brass on the front of his engi
ne! We also know that he used yellow and black paint! The pieces are coming
together.
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-lis
t-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gene Rambo
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 6:14 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: "A" cowling
I made a brass piece and bolted it on to cover the end of the cam (with a g
asket under the brass). I had to notch my wood piece for the cam cover, bu
t I did not want it leaking.
Gene
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> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: "A" cowling
> From: jfaith@solairusaviation.com
> Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 05:32:04 -0800
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> totally...Gene...
> it was funny to me..jab away..
> I had another thought..
> the end of the camshaft is covered by the wood disk..and it does leak a b
it when its running if not covered
> did you guys put something over the camshaft ?.. i was thinking the wood
disk and a gasket bolted to the engine took care of that...
> and the cowl attached to the wood
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| Subject: | Re: My Piet is out of long term storage |
Hi Mike,
I=99m way off getting to the fitting of the gear stage yet but I
would like to put in my opinion. (it=99s a good pre-planning
excersise anyway)
Looking at the drawing attachment that Bill C posted, I think that the
ash blocks ARE angled towards the tail.
To me, the blocks appear to be drawn at an angle plus there is an extra
line drawn on the inside edge of the landing gear struts, which I guess
would be the rear struts.
If you continue that extra line down, it would intersect with where the
ash blocks would be if they were angled toward the tail.
I also think that the 42.5=9D between the ash blocks could be a
reference to the distance at the point the axle crosses them.
As you say, lots to interpret!
Mark Stanley
Japan
From: Michael Perez
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 9:36 AM
> On the front view, very similar to the attachment
Bill C. posted, the way the drawing looks, the blocks MAY also angle
towards the tail and >are not parallel to each other. However, since the
measurement shows a distance of 42.5" between the ash blocks with NO
reference as to >if this is measured from the forward or rearward ends
of the blocks, one can assume the blocks ARE parallel to each other.
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| Subject: | Re: My Piet is out of long term storage |
Hi Gary,
I like that technique! Simple is good.
Mark Stanley
Japan
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-----Original Message-----
From: Gboothe5
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 11:32 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: My Piet is out of long term storage
Set up is simple...tie 2 strings to the tail post and extend each one to the
forward end of the blocks. That's the angle you need.
Gary from Cool
NX308MB
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Piet2112
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 3:33 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: My Piet is out of long term storage
In regards to the ash block, why are you canting it inward?
The plans show it parallel to the ground, but shouldn't it be perpendicular
to the axle?
The last time I was at the Frontiers of Flight Museum in Dallas, I took a
close look at their Curtiss JN-4D Jenny to answer that very question.
On the Jenny, it's perpendicular.
Curt Merdan
Flower Mound, TX
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| Subject: | Re: 2.5 hour Piet DVD available |
Hi Mike,
I still my copy of the TAPE, still going strong last time I looked at
it.
Lots of good stuff in there to get the brain turning!
Thanks
Mark Stanley
Japan
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From: Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP]
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 5:12 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: 2.5 hour Piet DVD available
For years I=99ve had an old VHS tape that I dubbed and then
dubbed to DVD=99s that shows the
building and flying of my Pietenpol. I haven=99t had
DVD=99s available for a year now because
the tape basically wore out but a local shop salvaged (with a moderate
amount of tracking =98snow=99 in spots)
it and I had a run of 50 made.
The first 45 minutes shows a complete walk around of finished airplane.
Next we do some fun flying
scenes over the farmland south of Cleveland, Ohio. Finally show photos
and video of my construction,
photos of other Piets, 1st flight, some of early Brodhead events, 1st
time with the plane at Oshkosh,
and more.
If interested please send a check (don=99t do Paypal) to Michael
Cuy, 16465 Heather Lane, Middleburg Hts. OH
44130. $25 which includes 1st Class shipping. Again, there are
portions of the DVD that DOES have snow and it
can be a bit distracting but overall the production is fine.
Warning: Watching this DVD can induce drowsiness to non-airplane people.
If you=99re lucky the DVD might even
clear out the room for you. This DVD can be used to make uninvited
visitors, in-laws, outlaws, or people who just
don=99t know when to go home actually go home.
Thank you,
Mike C.
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| Subject: | Re: more on deck angle and landing gears |
Ryan,
It was a tongue in cheek comment!!!!
Last time I checked Phoenix valley was pretty flat. We do have mountains up North
though and they are great to fly around. In summer we just don't land there.
BTW-The story at Grand canyon was in a 180hp 172 and the Piet will suite me just
fine thanks.
Sincerely sorry you are having a bad day. I hope I was not the cause.
Take care,
Bryan
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While I may not always be right, I apologize well.
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| Subject: | John Greenlee's Piet |
John...That is awesome to hear you are getting back on the Piet. For those of
you not familiar his beautiful bird, check it out here...
http://www.westcoastpiet.com/images/John%20Greenlee/pictures.htm
One thing is for sure, John's Piet may have been out of commission for a while
but he sure is a dedicated attendee of Brodhead. Has made the trip from Texas
for almost 20 years! Yikes!
Don Emch
NX899DE
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| Subject: | Re: My Piet is out of long term storage |
I think there are several people asking about the gear on here right now.
I have seen lots of different ways of doing it described on here=2C some mo
re complex than others. I tried about three different ways until hitting o
n what I think is the easiest way. Gary is right=2C two strings from the t
ailpost works perfectly. I would be happy to talk on the phone to anyone w
ho would like to discuss the way I came up with=2C but it is too complicate
d to write out without causing a million questions. Not saying my way is T
HE way=2C or even the best=2C but I tried them all and when the last idea h
it=2C it was a piece of cake! Gene Rambo202-674-1445
From: mmrally@nifty.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: My Piet is out of long term storage
Hi Mike=2C
I=92m way off getting to the fitting of the gear stage yet but I would like
to put in my opinion. (it=92s a good pre-planning excersise anyway)
Looking at the drawing attachment that Bill C posted=2C I think that the as
h
blocks ARE angled towards the tail.
To me=2C the blocks appear to be drawn at an angle plus there is an extra
line drawn on the inside edge of the landing gear struts=2C which I guess w
ould be
the rear struts.
If you continue that extra line down=2C it would intersect with where the a
sh
blocks would be if they were angled toward the tail.
I also think that the 42.5=94 between the ash blocks could be a
reference to the distance at the point the axle crosses them.
As you say=2C lots to interpret!
Mark Stanley
Japan
From: Michael Perez
Sent: Saturday=2C January 14=2C 2012 9:36 AM
> On the front view=2C very similar to the attachment
Bill C. posted=2C the way the drawing looks=2C the blocks
MAY also
angle towards the tail and >are not parallel to each othe
r.
However=2C since the measurement shows a distance of 42.5
"
between the ash blocks with NO reference as to >if this i
s
measured from the forward or rearward ends of the blocks
=2C one
can assume the blocks ARE parallel to each other.
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| Subject: | Re: leaf springs for tailwheels |
As Mike mentioned, the best setup appears to be a combination of two leaf springs.
My original setup had a spring that was too stiff and not enough arch to
give proper ground clearance. The original tail wheel was a Maule which was worn
out and no longer was plumb with the aircraft causing some exciting moments
on some landings.
Replace the spring with one from ASS PN 0-614200 designed for a Cub. Removed the
short spring and fabricated a new bracket to accept the existing mount points.
Replaced the tail wheel with a Matco 6" which proved to work very well with
much better ground clearance.
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Adrian M
Winnipeg, MB
Canada
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Hey Michael!
My C-90 actually began life as an O200 which had to be overhauled anyways,
so it was no big deal to swap out the cam and the few other things that
differentiate the two. (carburetion I think was one, but can't remember now)
I think it was a good way to go as there are lots of runout O200's around.
Seems to definitely be the "engine of choice" in the UK where they fly a
slightly larger/heavier Pietenpol.
Should be good, well see.
Got one exhaust/heat muff/muffler assembly finished last night, one more to
go, then finish some wiring and plumbing and fire her up and get a fresh
blast of encouragement for the final push! Gotta get this bugger done (or
re-done would be more accurate). This rebuilding stuff kinda stinks.
Douwe
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| Subject: | My Piet is out of long term storage |
The last time you got a good idea was when you saw the black and yellow Ger
man at Brodhead.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
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From: Gene Rambo <generambo@msn.com>
Sent: Sat, Jan 14, 2012 8:32 am
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: My Piet is out of long term storage
I think there are several people asking about the gear on here right now.
I have seen lots of different ways of doing it described on here, some more
complex than others. I tried about three different ways until hitting on
what I think is the easiest way. Gary is right, two strings from the tailp
ost works perfectly. I would be happy to talk on the phone to anyone who w
ould like to discuss the way I came up with, but it is too complicated to w
rite out without causing a million questions. Not saying my way is THE way
, or even the best, but I tried them all and when the last idea hit, it was
a piece of cake!
Gene Rambo
202-674-1445
From: mmrally@nifty.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: My Piet is out of long term storage
Hi Mike,
I=99m way off getting to the fitting of the gear stage yet but I woul
d like to put in my opinion. (it=99s a good pre-planning excersise an
yway)
Looking at the drawing attachment that Bill C posted, I think that the ash
blocks ARE angled towards the tail.
To me, the blocks appear to be drawn at an angle plus there is an extra lin
e drawn on the inside edge of the landing gear struts, which I guess would
be the rear struts.
If you continue that extra line down, it would intersect with where the ash
blocks would be if they were angled toward the tail.
I also think that the 42.5=9D between the ash blocks could be a refe
rence to the distance at the point the axle crosses them.
As you say, lots to interpret!
Mark Stanley
Japan
From: Michael Perez
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 9:36 AM
> On the front view, very similar to the attachment Bill C. posted, the way
the drawing looks, the blocks MAY also angle towards the tail and >are not
parallel to each other. However, since the measurement shows a distance of
42.5" between the ash blocks with NO reference as to >if this is measured
from the forward or rearward ends of the blocks, one can assume the blocks
ARE parallel to each other.
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Douwe, could you share some pictures on the heat muff?
Thanks
Jack
DSM
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Douwe
Blumberg
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 9:32 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: C-90
Hey Michael!
My C-90 actually began life as an O200 which had to be overhauled anyways,
so it was no big deal to swap out the cam and the few other things that
differentiate the two. (carburetion I think was one, but can't remember now)
I think it was a good way to go as there are lots of runout O200's around.
Seems to definitely be the "engine of choice" in the UK where they fly a
slightly larger/heavier Pietenpol.
Should be good, well see.
Got one exhaust/heat muff/muffler assembly finished last night, one more to
go, then finish some wiring and plumbing and fire her up and get a fresh
blast of encouragement for the final push! Gotta get this bugger done (or
re-done would be more accurate). This rebuilding stuff kinda stinks.
Douwe
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| Subject: | I LIKE This Guy!!!! |
Subject: Fwd: I LIKE This Guy!!!!
Spoken like a TRUE American!
Rep. Allen West (R-Fla.), a former Army lieutenant colonel, sends THE
WEEKLY STANDARD an email commenting on the Marines' video
<http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/silence-republican-candidates_616690.html>
, and has given us permission to publish it.
allenwest
<http://www.weeklystandard.com/sites/all/files/imagecache/teaser-large/images/teasers/allenwest.jpg>
I have sat back and assessed the incident with the video of our Marines
urinating on Taliban corpses. I do not recall any self-righteous
indignation when our Delta snipers Shugart and Gordon had their bodies
dragged through Mogadishu. Neither do I recall media outrage and
condemnation of our Blackwater security contractors being killed, their
bodies burned, and hung from a bridge in Fallujah.
All these over-emotional pundits and armchair quarterbacks need to
chill. Does anyone remember the two Soldiers from the 101st Airborne
Division who were beheaded and gutted in Iraq?
The Marines were wrong. Give them a maximum punishment under field
grade level Article 15 (non-judicial punishment), place a General
Officer level letter of reprimand in their personnel file, and have them
in full dress uniform stand before their Battalion, each personally
apologize to God, Country, and Corps videotaped and conclude by singing
the full US Marine Corps Hymn without a teleprompter.
As for everyone else, unless you have been shot at by the Taliban, shut
your mouth, war is hell.
"Courage is being scared to death and saddling up anyway."
-John Wayne
The secret of a good sermon is to have a good beginning and a good
ending; and to have the two as close together as possible
- George Burns
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| Subject: | Re: I LIKE This Guy!!!! |
I'm an inactive Marine, I was shot at by Iraqis, I lost brothers over
there. And this load of tripe can go to hell. Using the heinous actions of
our enemies to in any way justify our less than honorable actions is BS. We
set the bar high, and strive to reach it, not them.
And if you are going to bring the hammer down on anyone, bring it down on
the idiot that filmed the evidence. Dumbass...
Ryan
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On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 12:31 PM, Stu Brown <stu_brown@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>
> Subject: Fwd: I LIKE This Guy!!!!
>
>
> Spoken like a TRUE American!
> Rep. Allen West (R-Fla.), a former Army lieutenant colonel, sends THE
> WEEKLY STANDARD an email commenting on the Marines' video <
> http://www.weeklystandard.**com/blogs/silence-republican-**
> candidates_616690.html<http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/silence-republ
ican-candidates_616690.html>>
> , and has given us permission to publish it.
>
> allenwest <http://www.weeklystandard.**com/sites/all/files/**
> imagecache/teaser-large/**images/teasers/allenwest.jpg<http://www.weeklys
tandard.com/sites/all/files/imagecache/teaser-large/images/teasers/allenwes
t.jpg>>
>
>
> =93I have sat back and assessed the incident with the video of our Marine
s
> urinating on Taliban corpses. I do not recall any self-righteous
> indignation when our Delta snipers Shugart and Gordon had their bodies
> dragged through Mogadishu. Neither do I recall media outrage and
> condemnation of our Blackwater security contractors being killed, their
> bodies burned, and hung from a bridge in Fallujah.
>
> =93All these over-emotional pundits and armchair quarterbacks need to chi
ll.
> Does anyone remember the two Soldiers from the 101st Airborne Division wh
o
> were beheaded and gutted in Iraq?
>
> =93The Marines were wrong. Give them a maximum punishment under field gra
de
> level Article 15 (non-judicial punishment), place a General Officer level
> letter of reprimand in their personnel file, and have them in full dress
> uniform stand before their Battalion, each personally apologize to God,
> Country, and Corps videotaped and conclude by singing the full US Marine
> Corps Hymn without a teleprompter.
>
> =93As for everyone else, unless you have been shot at by the Taliban, shu
t
> your mouth, war is hell.=94
>
>
> "Courage is being scared to death and saddling up anyway."
>
> -John Wayne
>
>
> The secret of a good sermon is to have a good beginning and a good ending
;
> and to have the two as close together as possible
> - George Burns
>
>
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<fist bump> :)
do not archive
On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 9:57 AM, <helspersew@aol.com> wrote:
> The last time you got a good idea was when you saw the black and yellow
> German at Brodhead.
>
> Dan Helsper
> Puryear, TN
>
> do not archive
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gene Rambo <generambo@msn.com>
> To: pietenpol-list <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Sat, Jan 14, 2012 8:32 am
> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: My Piet is out of long term storage
>
> I think there are several people asking about the gear on here right
> now. I have seen lots of different ways of doing it described on here,
> some more complex than others. I tried about three different ways until
> hitting on what I think is the easiest way. Gary is right, two strings
> from the tailpost works perfectly. I would be happy to talk on the phone
> to anyone who would like to discuss the way I came up with, but it is too
> complicated to write out without causing a million questions. Not saying
> my way is THE way, or even the best, but I tried them all and when the la
st
> idea hit, it was a piece of cake!
>
> Gene Rambo
> 202-674-1445
>
> ------------------------------
> From: mmrally@nifty.com
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: My Piet is out of long term storage
> Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 22:03:32 +0900
>
> Hi Mike,
> I=92m way off getting to the fitting of the gear stage yet but I would li
ke
> to put in my opinion. (it=92s a good pre-planning excersise anyway)
> Looking at the drawing attachment that Bill C posted, I think that the as
h
> blocks ARE angled towards the tail.
> To me, the blocks appear to be drawn at an angle plus there is an extra
> line drawn on the inside edge of the landing gear struts, which I guess
> would be the rear struts.
> If you continue that extra line down, it would intersect with where the
> ash blocks would be if they were angled toward the tail.
> I also think that the 42.5=94 between the ash blocks could be a referenc
e
> to the distance at the point the axle crosses them.
>
> As you say, lots to interpret!
>
> Mark Stanley
> Japan
>
> *From:* Michael Perez <speedbrake@sbcglobal.net>
> *Sent:* Saturday, January 14, 2012 9:36 AM
>
> > On the front view, very similar to the attachment Bill C.
> posted, the way the drawing looks, the blocks MAY also angle towards the
> tail and >are not parallel to each other. However, since the measurement
> shows a distance of 42.5" between the ash blocks with NO reference as to
> >if this is measured from the forward or rearward ends of the blocks, one
> can assume the blocks ARE parallel to each other.
>
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Thanks Douwe for the good ideas.
-
One reason I was more interested in the -90 then the--200 was because I r
ead someplace that the -90 was lighter. (don't recall where.)- I am VERY
interested in the conversion process you talk about and wonder if it change
s the weight closer to the -90?- Can you point me in the direction to fin
d these overhaul/conversion procedures? Maybe I should search for an O-200
and convert?
-
Definitely keep me abreast of your engine work, first run and subsequent fi
ndings...good or bad.
-
Thanks!
Michael Perez
Karetaker Aero
www.karetakeraero.com
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| Subject: | Re: I LIKE This Guy!!!! |
I like this guy too. Where are all the good candidates out there that will say
OKKKKKKKKK INSTEAD of condemning them to Hell. SEMPER FI. GARDINER
--- On Sat, 1/14/12, Stu Brown <stu_brown@verizon.net> wrote:
> From: Stu Brown <stu_brown@verizon.net>
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: I LIKE This Guy!!!!
> To:
> Date: Saturday, January 14, 2012, 1:31 PM
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted
> by: Stu Brown <stu_brown@verizon.net>
>
>
> Subject: Fwd: I LIKE This Guy!!!!
>
>
> Spoken like a TRUE American!
> Rep. Allen West (R-Fla.), a former Army lieutenant colonel,
> sends THE WEEKLY STANDARD an email commenting on the
> Marines' video <http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/silence-republican-candidates_616690.html>
> , and has given us permission to publish it.
>
> allenwest <http://www.weeklystandard.com/sites/all/files/imagecache/teaser-large/images/teasers/allenwest.jpg>
>
>
>
> I have sat back and assessed the incident with the video
> of our Marines urinating on Taliban corpses. I do not recall
> any self-righteous indignation when our Delta snipers
> Shugart and Gordon had their bodies dragged through
> Mogadishu. Neither do I recall media outrage and
> condemnation of our Blackwater security contractors being
> killed, their bodies burned, and hung from a bridge in
> Fallujah.
>
> All these over-emotional pundits and armchair
> quarterbacks need to chill. Does anyone remember the two
> Soldiers from the 101st Airborne Division who were beheaded
> and gutted in Iraq?
>
> The Marines were wrong. Give them a maximum punishment
> under field grade level Article 15 (non-judicial
> punishment), place a General Officer level letter of
> reprimand in their personnel file, and have them in full
> dress uniform stand before their Battalion, each personally
> apologize to God, Country, and Corps videotaped and conclude
> by singing the full US Marine Corps Hymn without a
> teleprompter.
>
> As for everyone else, unless you have been shot at by
> the Taliban, shut your mouth, war is hell.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Courage is being scared to death and saddling up anyway."
>
> -John Wayne
>
>
> The secret of a good sermon is to have a good beginning and
> a good ending; and to have the two as close together as
> possible
> - George Burns
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Email Forum -
> FAQ,
> - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS -
> List Contribution Web Site -
> -Matt
> Dralle, List Admin.
>
>
>
>
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lets keep the politics off this list!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Gene
> Date: Sat=2C 14 Jan 2012 11:22:28 -0800
> From: airlion@bellsouth.net
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: I LIKE This Guy!!!!
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>
>
> I like this guy too. Where are all the good candidates out there that wil
l say OKKKKKKKKK INSTEAD of condemning them to Hell. SEMPER FI. GARDINER
>
> --- On Sat=2C 1/14/12=2C Stu Brown <stu_brown@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > From: Stu Brown <stu_brown@verizon.net>
> > Subject: Pietenpol-List: I LIKE This Guy!!!!
> > To:
> > Date: Saturday=2C January 14=2C 2012=2C 1:31 PM
> > --> Pietenpol-List message posted
> > by: Stu Brown <stu_brown@verizon.net>
> >
> >
> > Subject: Fwd: I LIKE This Guy!!!!
> >
> >
> > Spoken like a TRUE American!
> > Rep. Allen West (R-Fla.)=2C a former Army lieutenant colonel=2C
> > sends THE WEEKLY STANDARD an email commenting on the
> > Marines' video <http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/silence-republican-
candidates_616690.html>
> > =2C and has given us permission to publish it.
> >
> > allenwest <http://www.weeklystandard.com/sites/all/files/imagecache/te
aser-large/images/teasers/allenwest.jpg>
> >
> >
> >
> > =93I have sat back and assessed the incident with the video
> > of our Marines urinating on Taliban corpses. I do not recall
> > any self-righteous indignation when our Delta snipers
> > Shugart and Gordon had their bodies dragged through
> > Mogadishu. Neither do I recall media outrage and
> > condemnation of our Blackwater security contractors being
> > killed=2C their bodies burned=2C and hung from a bridge in
> > Fallujah.
> >
> > =93All these over-emotional pundits and armchair
> > quarterbacks need to chill. Does anyone remember the two
> > Soldiers from the 101st Airborne Division who were beheaded
> > and gutted in Iraq?
> >
> > =93The Marines were wrong. Give them a maximum punishment
> > under field grade level Article 15 (non-judicial
> > punishment)=2C place a General Officer level letter of
> > reprimand in their personnel file=2C and have them in full
> > dress uniform stand before their Battalion=2C each personally
> > apologize to God=2C Country=2C and Corps videotaped and conclude
> > by singing the full US Marine Corps Hymn without a
> > teleprompter.
> >
> > =93As for everyone else=2C unless you have been shot at by
> > the Taliban=2C shut your mouth=2C war is hell.=94
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Courage is being scared to death and saddling up anyway."
> >
> > -John Wayne
> >
> >
> > The secret of a good sermon is to have a good beginning and
> > a good ending=3B and to have the two as close together as
> > possible
> > - George Burns
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Email Forum -
> > FAQ=2C
> > - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS -
> > List Contribution Web Site -
> > -Matt
> > Dralle=2C List Admin.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Michael, My extensive research (a google search) says that the -90 makes only 95
HP but has better torque down low, right where a slow and low plane needs it.
No dif in weight unless you get one of the new O-200s.
Blue Skies,
Steve D
----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Perez <speedbrake@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: C-90
> Thanks Douwe for the good ideas.
>
> One reason I was more interested in the -90 then the-200 was
> because I read someplace that the -90 was lighter. (don't recall
> where.) I am VERY interested in the conversion process you talk
> about and wonder if it changes the weight closer to the -90? Can
> you point me in the direction to find these overhaul/conversion
> procedures? Maybe I should search for an O-200 and convert?
>
> Definitely keep me abreast of your engine work, first run and
> subsequent findings...good or bad.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Michael Perez
> Karetaker Aero
> www.karetakeraero.com
>
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Low - end torque...reminds of when I built my Pontiac engine... anyhoo, I w
ill be looking more closely into this -200/90 conversion and the difference
s/similarities between the two.
-
Any other intell. on the matter would be greatly appreciated.
Michael Perez
Karetaker Aero
www.karetakeraero.com
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| Subject: | Re: more on deck angle and landing gears |
Hey Mueller....
-
Take Your Ass to another site!
-
In speaking for other BUILDERS-who wish to remain on the sidelines, you M
r. Mueller -need to drop of the radar screen! Seems as though your choice
s in life ( to include comments)-are condescending, worthless, and frankl
y down right stupid!
-
Your life's' problems and unnecessary psychobabble-are not made for this
list;-I for one am tired of your mouth!
-
Do us all a favor and find another site, try and build a model airplane, or
better yet...find another hobby to bash! You have attained the title of Ki
ng of idiots... please go away!-Need I say more!
-
ARCHIVE
-KMHeide
--- On Fri, 1/13/12, Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: more on deck angle and landing gears
The airplane was designed by a man living on the beautiful flat ground of t
he middle west. You want to fly it in the mountains, that's your problem.
As much as you like the Piet, if it does not suit your situation, then find
something more appropriate-
do not archive
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Bryan Reed <reed44@gmail.com> wrote:
Bill,
-Shudder the thought. You mean my 75hp Piet won't climb like a homesick a
ngel with me and my 250lb friend on board??? Who do I talk to about getting
my money back on this mere mortal airplane??
-Unfortunately we are very familiar with DA here. It really limits us in
the summer with the high altitude runways. I had a scare years ago at Grand
Canyon Airport with 6600ft actual and 87deg afternoon. I am quite a coward
ly pilot with high density altitude now.
-I flew for years out of DVT and became accustomed to crowded airports. I
t really doesn't bother me but it does take a toll on brakes and tires doin
g that much taxiing. With high temps comes long runways and thus lots of ta
xiing. Unfortunatly that is standard flying here.
- -Thanks,
- - -Bryan
--------
Working Piet N5289B
While I may not always be right, I apologize well.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=363656#363656
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*Hey Mueller....
Take Your Ass to another site! *
*
*
*:)*
*
*
*do not archive*
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| Subject: | Re: more on deck angle and landing gears |
KM,
Have *you* ever flown in the mountains? N8031 has done it (not with me), an
d on hot days climb was reported to be 50 fpm. It's not a mountain machine w
ith an A65/75. Maybe a C85 with the O200 mods, but I wouldn't take it to Tuc
son (2200') in the middle of the summer and overload it.
Bryan, I wouldn't worry about braking on the Piet with or without big wheels
. It slows down so quickly even taxiing that you won't need the brakes. An
d tires? F'ggetabout it! Motorcycle don't suddenly burst into flames or pop
their wheels when the temps hit 117. I lived in Tucson, cycling is hot, bu
t it can be done.
Dan
--
Dan Yocum
yocum137@gmail.com
"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
On Jan 14, 2012, at 2:31 PM, KM Heide CPO/FAAOP <kmheidecpo@yahoo.com> wrote
:
> Hey Mueller....
>
> Take Your Ass to another site!
>
> In speaking for other BUILDERS who wish to remain on the sidelines, you Mr
. Mueller need to drop of the radar screen! Seems as though your choices in
life ( to include comments) are condescending, worthless, and frankly down r
ight stupid!
>
> Your life's' problems and unnecessary psychobabble are not made for this l
ist; I for one am tired of your mouth!
>
> Do us all a favor and find another site, try and build a model airplane, o
r better yet...find another hobby to bash! You have attained the title of Ki
ng of idiots... please go away! Need I say more!
>
>
> ARCHIVE
> KMHeide
>
>
> --- On Fri, 1/13/12, Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> From: Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: more on deck angle and landing gears
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Date: Friday, January 13, 2012, 6:12 PM
>
> The airplane was designed by a man living on the beautiful flat ground of t
he middle west. You want to fly it in the mountains, that's your problem.
>
> As much as you like the Piet, if it does not suit your situation, then fin
d something more appropriate
>
> do not archive
>
> On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Bryan Reed <reed44@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
> Shudder the thought. You mean my 75hp Piet won't climb like a homesick an
gel with me and my 250lb friend on board??? Who do I talk to about getting m
y money back on this mere mortal airplane??
>
> Unfortunately we are very familiar with DA here. It really limits us in t
he summer with the high altitude runways. I had a scare years ago at Grand C
anyon Airport with 6600ft actual and 87deg afternoon. I am quite a cowardly p
ilot with high density altitude now.
>
> I flew for years out of DVT and became accustomed to crowded airports. It
really doesn't bother me but it does take a toll on brakes and tires doing t
hat much taxiing. With high temps comes long runways and thus lots of taxiin
g. Unfortunatly that is standard flying here.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bryan
>
> --------
> Working Piet N5289B
>
> While I may not always be right, I apologize well.
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=363656#363656
>
>
>
>
>
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Hey, Gardiner - A quick question=85I=92m thinking about introducing an
event
into this year=92s West Coast Piet Gathering. You, being an individual
of
incredible background, no doubt with knowledge of bombing
tactics=85range,
windage and such=85may best know how to answer this=85.
Let=92s say our event is to dump a liquid from a Piet, sorta like flour
bombing, on to a target. Doesn=92t matter what the liquid is, but
let=92s say
it=92s watery and=85yellow=85color doesn=92t matter. Let=92s say the
target is a row
of unmoving objects, 5 =BD to 6=92 long, each one about 16=94 dia, lined
up in a
row, like wood. The object, obviously, is to hit the target with as much
of
liquid as possible. What do you think would be the best approach ground
speed.
Again, I have no experience in military aviation, but have undying
respect
for those who do=85
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gene
Rambo
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 11:30 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: I LIKE This Guy!!!!
lets keep the politics off this list!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Gene
> Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 11:22:28 -0800
> From: airlion@bellsouth.net
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: I LIKE This Guy!!!!
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>
>
> I like this guy too. Where are all the good candidates out there that
will
say OKKKKKKKKK INSTEAD of condemning them to Hell. SEMPER FI. GARDINER
>
> --- On Sat, 1/14/12, Stu Brown <stu_brown@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > From: Stu Brown <stu_brown@verizon.net>
> > Subject: Pietenpol-List: I LIKE This Guy!!!!
> > To:
> > Date: Saturday, January 14, 2012, 1:31 PM
> > --> Pietenpol-List message posted
> > by: Stu Brown <stu_brown@verizon.net>
> >
> >
> > Subject: Fwd: I LIKE This Guy!!!!
> >
> >
> > Spoken like a TRUE American!
> > Rep. Allen West (R-Fla.), a former Army lieutenant colonel,
> > sends THE WEEKLY STANDARD an email commenting on the
> > Marines' video
<http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/silence-republican-candidates_616690
.ht
ml>
> > , and has given us permission to publish it.
> >
> > allenwest
<http://www.weeklystandard.com/sites/all/files/imagecache/teaser-large/im
age
s/teasers/allenwest.jpg>
> >
> >
> >
> > =93I have sat back and assessed the incident with the video
> > of our Marines urinating on Taliban corpses. I do not recall
> > any self-righteous indignation when our Delta snipers
> > Shugart and Gordon had their bodies dragged through
> > Mogadishu. Neither do I recall media outrage and
> > condemnation of our Blackwater security contractors being
> > killed, their bodies burned, and hung from a bridge in
> > Fallujah.
> >
> > =93All these over-emotional pundits and armchair
> > quarterbacks need to chill. Does anyone remember the two
> > Soldiers from the 101st Airborne Division who were beheaded
> > and gutted in Iraq?
> >
> > =93The Marines were wrong. Give them a maximum punishment
> > under field grade level Article 15 (non-judicial
> > punishment), place a General Officer level letter of
> > reprimand in their personnel file, and have them in full
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Yeah Mueller... [Laughing]
Do Not Archive
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Mark Chouinard
Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage
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| Subject: | Re: more on deck angle and landing gears |
Mr. Heide,
Those are harsh words to someone with credibility. You may not like his
delivery, but the message is the same. Remember, it is Mr. Reed who painted
such miserable picture of taxi conditions at his airport that he felt forced
to choose a specific tire! Others, with Pietenpol flying experience, have
unsuccessfully tried to reason with him. Ryan Mueller may not be building
now, but has, in the past, as well as owning and flying a Pietenpol.
I wish Bryan Reed every success and happiness with his plane. Can you
imagine sitting in an open cockpit in conditions as he describes them?!
He'll need extra hp just to get those balls off the ground..
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
Do not archve
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of KM Heide
CPO/FAAOP
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 12:32 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: more on deck angle and landing gears
Hey Mueller....
Take Your Ass to another site!
In speaking for other BUILDERS who wish to remain on the sidelines, you Mr.
Mueller need to drop of the radar screen! Seems as though your choices in
life ( to include comments) are condescending, worthless, and frankly down
right stupid!
Your life's' problems and unnecessary psychobabble are not made for this
list; I for one am tired of your mouth!
Do us all a favor and find another site, try and build a model airplane, or
better yet...find another hobby to bash! You have attained the title of King
of idiots... please go away! Need I say more!
ARCHIVE
KMHeide
--- On Fri, 1/13/12, Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: more on deck angle and landing gears
The airplane was designed by a man living on the beautiful flat ground of
the middle west. You want to fly it in the mountains, that's your problem.
As much as you like the Piet, if it does not suit your situation, then find
something more appropriate
do not archive
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Bryan Reed <reed44@gmail.com
<http://us.mc1615.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=reed44@gmail.com> > wrote:
<http://us.mc1615.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=reed44@gmail.com> >
Bill,
Shudder the thought. You mean my 75hp Piet won't climb like a homesick
angel with me and my 250lb friend on board??? Who do I talk to about getting
my money back on this mere mortal airplane??
Unfortunately we are very familiar with DA here. It really limits us in the
summer with the high altitude runways. I had a scare years ago at Grand
Canyon Airport with 6600ft actual and 87deg afternoon. I am quite a cowardly
pilot with high density altitude now.
I flew for years out of DVT and became accustomed to crowded airports. It
really doesn't bother me but it does take a toll on brakes and tires doing
that much taxiing. With high temps comes long runways and thus lots of
taxiing. Unfortunatly that is standard flying here.
Thanks,
Bryan
--------
Working Piet N5289B
While I may not always be right, I apologize well.
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| Subject: | what Piets sell for |
Maybe I tell myself this to justify the expense, but I consider the $15,000
that I paid for Scout to be completely worth it. I bought a complete, flying,
registered, time-flown-off aircraft that will honestly fly 2 people on 4 gallons
per hour of avgas and cost only a few hundred dollars a year in maintenance
and upkeep (not including hangar). It is simple, reliable, and enjoyable.
I would say the only thing better than buying a "new" Piet for $15K is buying
one for less than that.
Oscar Zuniga
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
Flying Squirrel N2069Z "Rocket"
Medford, OR
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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| Subject: | Re: more on deck angle and landing gears |
Dan,
Did you read the question and statement he simply asked? Did Mueller have to
slap the guy down for asking? Just tired of his shit and running his lips w
hen people seek advice on their planes.
Again, I for one wished he would "fly" away! Maybe a great new years resolut
ion.
Kenneth M. Heide
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 14, 2012, at 5:26 PM, Dan Yocum <yocum137@gmail.com> wrote:
> KM,
>
> Have *you* ever flown in the mountains? N8031 has done it (not with me), a
nd on hot days climb was reported to be 50 fpm. It's not a mountain machine
with an A65/75. Maybe a C85 with the O200 mods, but I wouldn't take it to T
ucson (2200') in the middle of the summer and overload it.
>
> Bryan, I wouldn't worry about braking on the Piet with or without big whee
ls. It slows down so quickly even taxiing that you won't need the brakes. A
nd tires? F'ggetabout it! Motorcycle don't suddenly burst into flames or po
p their wheels when the temps hit 117. I lived in Tucson, cycling is hot, b
ut it can be done.
>
> Dan
>
>
> --
> Dan Yocum
> yocum137@gmail.com
> "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
>
> On Jan 14, 2012, at 2:31 PM, KM Heide CPO/FAAOP <kmheidecpo@yahoo.com> wro
te:
>
>> Hey Mueller....
>>
>> Take Your Ass to another site!
>>
>> In speaking for other BUILDERS who wish to remain on the sidelines, you M
r. Mueller need to drop of the radar screen! Seems as though your choices i
n life ( to include comments) are condescending, worthless, and frankly down
right stupid!
>>
>> Your life's' problems and unnecessary psychobabble are not made for this l
ist; I for one am tired of your mouth!
>>
>> Do us all a favor and find another site, try and build a model airplane, o
r better yet...find another hobby to bash! You have attained the title of Ki
ng of idiots... please go away! Need I say more!
>>
>>
>> ARCHIVE
>> KMHeide
>>
>>
>> --- On Fri, 1/13/12, Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> From: Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: more on deck angle and landing gears
>> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>> Date: Friday, January 13, 2012, 6:12 PM
>>
>> The airplane was designed by a man living on the beautiful flat ground of
the middle west. You want to fly it in the mountains, that's your problem.
>>
>> As much as you like the Piet, if it does not suit your situation, then fi
nd something more appropriate
>>
>> do not archive
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Bryan Reed <reed44@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Bill,
>>
>> Shudder the thought. You mean my 75hp Piet won't climb like a homesick a
ngel with me and my 250lb friend on board??? Who do I talk to about getting m
y money back on this mere mortal airplane??
>>
>> Unfortunately we are very familiar with DA here. It really limits us in t
he summer with the high altitude runways. I had a scare years ago at Grand C
anyon Airport with 6600ft actual and 87deg afternoon. I am quite a cowardly p
ilot with high density altitude now.
>>
>> I flew for years out of DVT and became accustomed to crowded airports. I
t really doesn't bother me but it does take a toll on brakes and tires doing
that much taxiing. With high temps comes long runways and thus lots of taxi
ing. Unfortunatly that is standard flying here.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Bryan
>>
>> --------
>> Working Piet N5289B
>>
>> While I may not always be right, I apologize well.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=363656#363656
>>
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>>
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| Subject: | Re: more on deck angle and landing gears |
Wow! You can't PAY for entertainment like this! And Mr. Dralle provides it for
free. Amazing.
I did contribute this year: $75. Worth every penny! And I got the thank you gift
in the mail today - a kneeboard. Woo hoo!
do not archive :D
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Kevin "Axel" Purtee
NX899KP
Austin/Georgetown, TX
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| Subject: | off topic So Cali Pieters Invite to a walk in Anheim convention |
center
If you love good stuff you need to make it to the convention center to
sample the best Gelato and spreads you have ever tasted.
Gelato DI Babbo
Check me out if you are heading out to the
show._http://www.expowest.com/ew12/Public/Booth.aspx?BoothID=1089818_
(http://www.expowest.com/ew12/Public/Booth.aspx?BoothID=1089818)
(http://www.expowest.com/ew12/Public/Booth.aspx?BoothID=1089818)
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_www.expowest.com_ (http://www.expowest.com/)
Brands: Gelato Di Babbo/Zanni Foods Inc Pistachio Di Bronte, Spreads and
Pesto
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| Subject: | Re: more on deck angle and landing gears |
Ken, if you feel a need to attack Ryan Mueller, please do it offlist.
Perhaps there is a bit too much politics on the list lately, but this kind
of attack crosses the line. Frankly, I've known Ryan for a number of years
and have always been imnpressed by his technical expertise in aviation. He
worked for some time as a mechanic at Poplar Grove and is technically very
savvy about aircraft construction. If you have a problem with him, solve it
with him, not through the list.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of KM Heide
CPO/FAAOP
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 3:32 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: more on deck angle and landing gears
Hey Mueller....
Take Your Ass to another site!
In speaking for other BUILDERS who wish to remain on the sidelines, you Mr.
Mueller need to drop of the radar screen! Seems as though your choices in
life ( to include comments) are condescending, worthless, and frankly down
right stupid!
Your life's' problems and unnecessary psychobabble are not made for this
list; I for one am tired of your mouth!
Do us all a favor and find another site, try and build a model airplane, or
better yet...find another hobby to bash! You have attained the title of King
of idiots... please go away! Need I say more!
ARCHIVE
KMHeide
--- On Fri, 1/13/12, Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: more on deck angle and landing gears
The airplane was designed by a man living on the beautiful flat ground of
the middle west. You want to fly it in the mountains, that's your problem.
As much as you like the Piet, if it does not suit your situation, then find
something more appropriate
do not archive
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Bryan Reed <reed44@gmail.com
<http://us.mc1615.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=reed44@gmail.com> > wrote:
<http://us.mc1615.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=reed44@gmail.com> >
Bill,
Shudder the thought. You mean my 75hp Piet won't climb like a homesick
angel with me and my 250lb friend on board??? Who do I talk to about getting
my money back on this mere mortal airplane??
Unfortunately we are very familiar with DA here. It really limits us in the
summer with the high altitude runways. I had a scare years ago at Grand
Canyon Airport with 6600ft actual and 87deg afternoon. I am quite a cowardly
pilot with high density altitude now.
I flew for years out of DVT and became accustomed to crowded airports. It
really doesn't bother me but it does take a toll on brakes and tires doing
that much taxiing. With high temps comes long runways and thus lots of
taxiing. Unfortunatly that is standard flying here.
Thanks,
Bryan
--------
Working Piet N5289B
While I may not always be right, I apologize well.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=363656#363656
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| Subject: | 2012 Ohio Piet boxing tournement and fly-in |
Lets all get togeather and duke out this disagreement, at 1197msl.- We wi
ll glue on handlebar mushtaches (if we can't grow one), and have a bare knu
ckle boxing match to settle this.- When we are done spitting out teeth, w
e will soothe our bleeding gums with cold beer, and who ever still has ther
e teeth can chew up the loosers brat and feed him like a mama bird.- We c
an even hire a bookie to take bets on the winner (and donate it to the list
).- Next year we can fight over which engine is best, then the following
year which landing gear is best................
-
Laughing my butt off,
Shad
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| Subject: | Re: more on deck angle and landing gears |
So Jack... When someone calls you a fucktard and because he has some knowled
ge is aircraft it becomes my problem to kindly resolve an issue off line as t
o not offed you or anyone else? Common really?
Well then... I guess the 16 emails I received off list must be wrong for sup
porting my position! To bad you and a few other miss the forest from one bad
tree that needs his mouth permanently shut!
Ever wonder why their is an off line group whom don't contribute to the list
for idiots like that! Go ahead and covet friends like him, but do ever poin
t your finger in my direction on and tell me I need to respect that idiot! P
retty obvious you choose to ignore the mans worthless statements and derogat
ory attacks! I am tired of idiots like this and you embrace him . God bless y
ou.
No worries, I am moving on to better things in life!
Kenneth M. Heide
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 14, 2012, at 10:55 PM, "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net> wrote
:
> Ken, if you feel a need to attack Ryan Mueller, please do it offlist. Per
haps there is a bit too much politics on the list lately, but this kind of a
ttack crosses the line. Frankly, I=99ve known Ryan for a number of ye
ars and have always been imnpressed by his technical expertise in aviation.
He worked for some time as a mechanic at Poplar Grove and is technically ve
ry savvy about aircraft construction. If you have a problem with him, solve
it with him, not through the list.
>
> Jack Phillips
> NX899JP
> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
>
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-li
st-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of KM Heide CPO/FAAOP
> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 3:32 PM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: more on deck angle and landing gears
>
> Hey Mueller....
>
> Take Your Ass to another site!
>
> In speaking for other BUILDERS who wish to remain on the sidelines, you Mr
. Mueller need to drop of the radar screen! Seems as though your choices in
life ( to include comments) are condescending, worthless, and frankly down r
ight stupid!
>
> Your life's' problems and unnecessary psychobabble are not made for this l
ist; I for one am tired of your mouth!
>
> Do us all a favor and find another site, try and build a model airplane, o
r better yet...find another hobby to bash! You have attained the title of Ki
ng of idiots... please go away! Need I say more!
>
>
> ARCHIVE
> KMHeide
>
>
> --- On Fri, 1/13/12, Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> From: Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: more on deck angle and landing gears
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Date: Friday, January 13, 2012, 6:12 PM
>
> The airplane was designed by a man living on the beautiful flat ground of t
he middle west. You want to fly it in the mountains, that's your problem.
>
> As much as you like the Piet, if it does not suit your situation, then fin
d something more appropriate
>
> do not archive
>
> On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Bryan Reed <reed44@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
> Shudder the thought. You mean my 75hp Piet won't climb like a homesick an
gel with me and my 250lb friend on board??? Who do I talk to about getting m
y money back on this mere mortal airplane??
>
> Unfortunately we are very familiar with DA here. It really limits us in t
he summer with the high altitude runways. I had a scare years ago at Grand C
anyon Airport with 6600ft actual and 87deg afternoon. I am quite a cowardly p
ilot with high density altitude now.
>
> I flew for years out of DVT and became accustomed to crowded airports. It
really doesn't bother me but it does take a toll on brakes and tires doing t
hat much taxiing. With high temps comes long runways and thus lots of taxiin
g. Unfortunatly that is standard flying here.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bryan
>
> --------
> Working Piet N5289B
>
> While I may not always be right, I apologize well.
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=363656#363656
>
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Enough said!
This USMC patriot is moving on.
Enjoy your builds and God bless us all!
Kenneth M. Heide
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