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1. 02:44 AM - Re: Re:Pietenpol Ariel for sale (Jack)
2. 05:52 AM - Re: Piet on skis (pineymb)
3. 06:34 AM - Re: Steel LG Lug Thickness (kevinpurtee)
4. 08:21 AM - Re: Wing tip fitting holes (Catdesigns)
5. 10:05 AM - Re: Wing tip fitting holes (Kringle)
6. 11:17 AM - Re: Re: Steel LG Lug Thickness (skipgadd@earthlink.net)
7. 07:35 PM - Model-A starting problem (BYD)
8. 07:37 PM - Re: French Valley EAA Chapter 1279 Pietnepol project update (aerocarjake)
9. 08:27 PM - Re: Model-A starting problem (Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB)
10. 08:55 PM - Brodhead 2011 (Lawrence Williams)
11. 08:56 PM - Brodhead 2011 (Lawrence Williams)
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| Subject: | re:Pietenpol Ariel for sale |
This one?
Jack Textor
DSM
NX1929T
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lawrence
Williams
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 12:08 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: re:Pietenpol Ariel for sale
Wasn't aware that BHP ever designed anything named "Ariel". Must be a
different guy named Pietenpol.
Larry(Top Curmudgeon)
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| Subject: | Re: Piet on skis |
Dan
Yes the skis are homebuilt, they are nothing more than aircraft ply glued up in
a gig to a thickness of 1/2" than coated with epoxy to provide durability and
to reduce friction over that white stuff.
Made up a set of dolly wheels with a shaft that slips into the axles and a pivot
arm that allows the skis to be raised off the ground in order to maneuver the
plane in the hanger (dolly visible on hanger floor)
You must be familiar with that white stuff in Illinois or not??
Actually this past weekend was the first time this winter that there has been enough
snow to take the plane out, what a blast!!!
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Adrian M
Winnipeg, MB
Canada
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| Subject: | Re: Steel LG Lug Thickness |
Sorry, Mark, I don't remember. It was thin gauge that was laying in the scrap
bin. The control horn steel would probably be ok. It has to be thin enough to
form around the lugs and the top of the gear. Maybe get a couple of 12x12 pieces
of various sizes to be on the safe side? You'll end up using whatever you
get for something.
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Kevin "Axel" Purtee
NX899KP
Austin/Georgetown, TX
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| Subject: | Re: Wing tip fitting holes |
John
Drill the holes after you get the wing tip built and your fittings made. After
that it will be apparent where the holes need to be. I drilled my holes on the
center line of the spar and it was a little to low because the bolt head on the
out side was slightly below the fat part of the wing tip and looked bad.
Chris
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Chris
Sacramento, CA
WestCoastPiet.com
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| Subject: | Re: Wing tip fitting holes |
Chris,
Makes sense to me. Thanks.
John
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John
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| Subject: | Re: Steel LG Lug Thickness |
Kevin and Mark, Just for reference, Wag Aero uses .063 steel for the finger
straps in a similar reinforcement on their Cuby plans. The thicker steel is
harder to bend but easier to weld.
Skip
> [Original Message]
> From: kevinpurtee <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Date: 2/7/2012 9:36:59 AM
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Steel LG Lug Thickness
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<kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
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> Sorry, Mark, I don't remember. It was thin gauge that was laying in the
scrap bin. The control horn steel would probably be ok. It has to be thin
enough to form around the lugs and the top of the gear. Maybe get a couple
of 12x12 pieces of various sizes to be on the safe side? You'll end up
using whatever you get for something.
>
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> Kevin "Axel" Purtee
> NX899KP
> Austin/Georgetown, TX
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=365799#365799
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| Subject: | Model-A starting problem |
Excuse me folks, a fellow lover of the blue has got a problem..
Ive been trying to start my Model-A Pietenpol, which is stiff from fresh overhaul.
Try as I might, I cant get even a puff or pop out of it. Fuel, compression,
timing and spark right? I can guarantee fuel by pouring a small amount in
the spark-plug hole before propping (have also utilized starting fluid). Certainly
has compression (verified with a thumb over the spark-plug hole while searching
for top dead center). Timing is set at 28-degrees BTC and if you lay
a spark-plug on the head and give it a flip youll see spark also when turning
the rotor to line it up while holding the mag in my hand I got one hell of a
shock. I fear that it may just be my weakling status keeping me from my reward
but Ive had others give a shot with no joy. Suspect that enough speed can
not be generated to obtain sufficient spark.
The magneto Im utilizing is a Vertex mag that slips into the distributor hole and
it does not have an impulse coupler. There isnt enough room between the firewall
and engine to mount an aircraft mag so the plans solution is out. I wonder
if a stock automobile (Model-A) ignition system (battery, coil, condenser
and such) might give a better slow speed spark at least to get it running long
enough to loosen the tight engine so I could go back to the magneto.
Any ideas, schemes or shots in the dark will be entertained. The only reward will
be a yet another YouTube video of a Model-A Pietenpol running.
Bill
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| Subject: | Re: French Valley EAA Chapter 1279 Pietnepol project update |
Yes, very nice to follow your Piet as it has been createed...
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Jake Schultz - curator,
Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)
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| Subject: | Re: Model-A starting problem |
This recent experience was with a 65 HP Continental but bear with me.
I helped a buddy put brand new mags, harnesses, and plugs on his 65HP Aeronca
Champ. We had plenty of help! We could not get the thing to fire at all. I spun
the prop till I dropped. Everyone "troubleshot the thing."
We had compression, Spark, and fuel but not at the right time. Everyone had an
opinion. (New mags are bad, the rebuilt carb is flooding everything, your Mag
switch is bad, the plugs are bad....)
Finally on a cold day when no one was around we took a good look at everything.
Too many hands had ended up with several wires going to wrong plugs. (I know
that we originally put them to the correct plugs, but don't know when they were
moved.) We pulled everything off and started from scratch by finding TDC. Then
turned the prop to 30 degrees before TDC. We set the mags up according to the
directions and and put them on. Ran the wires to all the right holes. Turned
the prop while checking each cylinder for compression and when the plug sparked.
Used the timing box and got both mags firing at exactly 30 degrees (this
took very little adjustment.) This whole process took about 1 hour.
I pulled the prop through 4 blades, he yelled "contact", I answered "HOT!!" and
it fired on the first blade. The plane flies strong and starts very easy.
Morals of the story: Don't get too much help!, Don't overthink the problem! Don't
be afraid to back up and redo anything you are not sure of.
Hope this helps.
Blue Skies,
Steve D
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From: BYD <billsayre@ymail.com>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Model-A starting problem
>
> Excuse me folks, a fellow lover of the blue has got a problem..
>
> Ive been trying to start my Model-A Pietenpol, which is stiff from fresh overhaul.
Try as I might, I cant get even a puff or
> pop out of it. Fuel, compression, timing and spark right? I can
> guarantee fuel by pouring a small amount in the spark-plug hole
> before propping (have also utilized starting fluid). Certainly has
> compression (verified with a thumb over the spark-plug hole while
> searching for top dead center). Timing is set at 28-degrees BTC
> and if you lay a spark-plug on the head and give it a flip youll
> see spark also when turning the rotor to line it up while
> holding the mag in my hand I got one hell of a shock. I fear that
> it may just be my weakling status keeping me from my reward but
> Ive had others give a shot with no joy. Suspect that enough
> speed can not be generated to obtain sufficient spark.
>
> The magneto Im utilizing is a Vertex mag that slips into the
> distributor hole and it does not have an impulse coupler. There
> isnt enough room between the firewall and engine to mount an
> aircraft mag so the plans solution is out. I wonder if a stock
> automobile (Model-A) ignition system (battery, coil, condenser and
> such) might give a better slow speed spark at least to get it
> running long enough to loosen the tight engine so I could go back
> to the magneto.
>
> Any ideas, schemes or shots in the dark will be entertained. The
> only reward will be a yet another YouTube video of a Model-A
> Pietenpol running.
>
> Bill
>
>
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>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=365846#365846
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Has anyone seen the results of the mass wt/bal conducted by W.W. at B'head last
summer?
Larry W. (THC)
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Has anyone seen the results of the mass wt/bal conducted by W.W. at B'head last
summer?
Larry W. (THC)
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