---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 02/12/12: 10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:57 AM - Re: Engine(s) Aquired! (Clif Dawson) 2. 04:25 AM - A-65's (helspersew@aol.com) 3. 06:35 AM - Re: Engine(s) Aquired! (C N Campbell) 4. 06:47 AM - Re: Engine(s) Aquired! (Michael Perez) 5. 07:09 AM - I need encouragement...Fying stories and pictures! (Douwe Blumberg) 6. 07:49 AM - Re: I need encouragement...Fying stories and pictures! (Greg Cardinal) 7. 09:36 AM - Re: Engine(s) Aquired! (BYD) 8. 09:51 AM - Exhaust stud hole (Oscar Zuniga) 9. 09:54 AM - Fuel Tank and Engine (Oscar Zuniga) 10. 05:39 PM - Re: Re: Engine(s) Aquired! (shad bell) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:57:21 AM PST US From: "Clif Dawson" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Engine(s) Aquired! Already done. One engine upside down on top of the other with a jackshaft between them. I have a pic here somewhere in my ancient ( pre Kitplanes ) mags but there are a LOT of them. Clif So are you building the world's first twin-engined Pietenpol? Jack Phillips NX899JP Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:25:17 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: A-65's From: helspersew@aol.com Congratulations Mike!! I'm sure you'll have lots o fun now dismantling thos e engines. Kind of like a treasure hunt. Dan Helsper Puryear, TN do not archive ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:35:29 AM PST US From: "C N Campbell" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Engine(s) Aquired! Michael, I have never seen a 65 out of an airplane, but I highly recommend that when you take the engines apart you label each piece and keep them separate. I also recommend that you not go by memory on this. You're quite a bit younger than I, but any of us can dis-remember things -- as my dad used to say. Chuck Do not archive. ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Perez To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 9:32 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Engine(s) Aquired! Thanks Jack...HA! Yes, Maybe one on each wing or perhaps I can make some type of gear unit for one to make it a pusher! Ryan, no logs, no papers, nothing. The gentleman acquired, (bought?) these engines about three years ago from some type of estate sale. They have been sitting in his garage/shed ever since. The tapered crank engine will not rotate by hand, the flanged crank engine turns quite easily. Still, I will be taking both apart and seeing what I have to work with. Michael Perez Karetaker Aero www.karetakeraero.com ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:47:02 AM PST US From: Michael Perez Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Engine(s) Aquired! I agree with you completely Chuck. As I did with my GTO restoration...docum entation and organization!- When I am done here on the computer, I will s hovel snow off the drive, (I guess I should go to work Monday...) and then get started on the disassembly. Michael Perez Karetaker Aero www.karetakeraero.com ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:09:15 AM PST US From: "Douwe Blumberg" Subject: Pietenpol-List: I need encouragement...Fying stories and pictures! Hey all! For those of us pounding through the daily grind of a build, it would be super encouraging and fun if you guys (and gals?) already flying could send in some cool flying stories and photographs. I for one always enjoy when someone shares a good flying story/adventure, and really appreciate everyone's photos, flying or otherwise. So, your act of charity to get me through this winter of waiting for ACS orders to arrive, and routing wires and rebuilding fuel tanks (for the fourth time.) can be a simple tax-deductible donation of a good story and or photo photo. Ready, set..GO!!! Douwe Ps. Thanks! ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:49:44 AM PST US From: "Greg Cardinal" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: I need encouragement...Fying stories and pictures! Good suggestion Douwe! This is a link to EAA Chapter 25's newsletter with an article and photos from last years trip to Brodhead. http://www.eaa25.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/eaa251108.pdf Greg Cardinal Minneapolis ----- Original Message ----- From: Douwe Blumberg To: pietenpolgroup Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 9:09 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: I need encouragement...Fying stories and pictures! Hey all! For those of us pounding through the daily grind of a build, it would be super encouraging and fun if you guys (and gals?) already flying could send in some cool flying stories and photographs. I for one always enjoy when someone shares a good flying story/adventure, and really appreciate everyone's photos, flying or otherwise. So, your act of charity to get me through this winter of waiting for ACS orders to arrive, and routing wires and rebuilding fuel tanks (for the fourth time.) can be a simple tax-deductible donation of a good story and or photo photo. Ready, set..GO!!! Douwe Ps. Thanks! ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:36:16 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Engine(s) Aquired! From: "BYD" Bill Church wrote: > Cool! Exciting day for you Michael. > > Actually, as strange as it sounds, if you did build a twin engined Piet, it would not be the first. Several years ago, someone did build a Piet with two engines (A-65s I think). The really strange part was that they were installed with one sitting above the other. From memory, I recall reading that it had two counter-rotating propellers (one in front of the other) - one direct driven, and the other belt driven. A very strange idea, with no good reason that I can think of to justify all the work necessary to achieve success, let alone all the extra weight. > > Bill C. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=366138#366138 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/piet_two_conts_102.jpg ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 09:51:34 AM PST US From: Oscar Zuniga Subject: Pietenpol-List: Exhaust stud hole Andrew=3B I have helicoiled two of the stud holes on my A65. I bought the kit on eBay for just a couple of bucks (drill bit=2C helicoil tool=2C a handful of helicoils=2C wooden dowel). After my heart sank when the first one spun in the head=2C my A&P calmed me down by loaning me his helicoil set and it turned out nice. So when another one spun (I was replacing my mild steel stacks with stainless ones)=2C I was ready for the job. Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" Flying Squirrel N2069Z "Rocket" Medford=2C OR website at http://www.flysquirrel.net/rogueairparts.com ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 09:54:31 AM PST US From: Oscar Zuniga Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fuel Tank and Engine Ben wrote- >I have the setup you describe and ended up with my cabanes tilted back 4 inches. >I extended my motor mounts 1.5 inches forward from the plans=2C >but I guess I could have gone a bit further. Pretty much an exact description of how Scout is set up. Ben=2C it sounds like I could blindfold you=2C point you in the general direction of our two airplanes=2C and you could start up and fly either one without knowing which one it was. Oh=2C but please remove the blindfold before you try to prop-start it =3Bo) Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" Flying Squirrel N2069Z "Rocket" Medford=2C OR website at http://www.flysquirrel.net/rogueairparts ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 05:39:27 PM PST US From: shad bell Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Engine(s) Aquired! I met one of the past owners of that airplane.- I forgot his name, but he had a luscombe just north of ORD accross the WI state line.- I flew up t o do a pre buy on the Luscombe, and got to talking airplanes.- The twin e ngine piet had since been converted to single engine.- I also have a pict ure of the twin eng setup in an old Air Progress magizine from the 60's.- If I can find it I will scan and post the article. - Shad --- On Sat, 2/11/12, Bill Church wrote: From: Bill Church Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Engine(s) Aquired! > Cool! Exciting day for you Michael. Actually, as strange as it sounds, if you did build a twin engined Piet, it would not be the first. Several years ago, someone did build a Piet with t wo engines (A-65s I think). The really strange part was that they were inst alled with one sitting above the other. From memory, I recall reading that it had two counter-rotating propellers (one in front of the other) - one di rect driven, and the other belt driven. A very strange idea, with no good r eason that I can think of to justify all the work necessary to achieve succ ess, let alone all the extra weight. Bill C. 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