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1. 07:15 AM - Somewhat OT - Private Airfields (John Franklin)
2. 07:22 AM - Engine 1 Appart (Michael Perez)
3. 07:24 AM - for you guys who smoke 'em (Douwe Blumberg)
4. 07:37 AM - Re: Somewhat OT - Private Airfields (airlion)
5. 07:38 AM - Re: Engine 1 Appart (John Hofmann)
6. 08:16 AM - Re: Engine 1 Appart (Michael Perez)
7. 08:21 AM - Engine Accessories, Manuals Needed (Michael Perez)
8. 09:07 AM - Re: Somewhat OT - Private Airfields (John Franklin)
9. 09:26 AM - Re: Somewhat OT - Private Airfields (jarheadpilot82)
10. 09:31 AM - Re: Somewhat OT - Private Airfields (John Hofmann)
11. 09:51 AM - Re: Somewhat OT - Private Airfields (Andrew Eldredge)
12. 09:57 AM - Making Spars (899PM)
13. 09:57 AM - Re: Engine Accessories, Manuals Needed (Bill Church)
14. 09:58 AM - Re: Engine Accessories, Manuals Needed (Dave Nielsen)
15. 10:03 AM - Re: Engine Accessories, Manuals Needed (BRETT PHILLIPS)
16. 10:06 AM - Re: Somewhat OT - Private Airfields (Hans Van Der Voort)
17. 10:10 AM - Re: for you guys who smoke 'em (Jerry Dotson)
18. 10:33 AM - Re: Engine Accessories, Manuals Needed (dmatt@frontiernet.net)
19. 10:36 AM - Re: Somewhat OT - Private Airfields (airlion)
20. 10:41 AM - Re: Somewhat OT - Private Airfields (airlion)
21. 10:46 AM - Re: Somewhat OT - Private Airfields (Jerry Dotson)
22. 11:05 AM - Re: for you guys who smoke 'em (Jack Phillips)
23. 11:29 AM - Re: for you guys who smoke 'em (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP])
24. 11:36 AM - A perfect example of Aircraft Spruce & Specialty HIGHWAY ROBBERY---smoke oil ripoff (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP])
25. 12:30 PM - Re: I need encouragement...Fying stories and pictures! (kevinpurtee)
26. 12:38 PM - Re: I need encouragement...Fying stories and pictures! (TOM STINEMETZE)
27. 01:27 PM - Re: I need encouragement...Fying stories and pictures! (tools)
28. 01:28 PM - Re: A perfect example of Aircraft Spruce & Specialty HIGHWAY RO (jarheadpilot82)
29. 02:10 PM - Re: Re: I need encouragement...Fying stories and pictures! (Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB)
30. 02:14 PM - Re: Re: A perfect example of Aircraft Spruce & Specialty HIGHWAY RO (Jack Phillips)
31. 03:00 PM - Re: I need encouragement...Fying stories and pictures! (kevinpurtee)
32. 03:18 PM - Re: Making Spars (Michael Perez)
33. 03:40 PM - Re: A perfect example of Aircraft Spruce & Specialty HIGHWAY RO (jarheadpilot82)
34. 04:40 PM - Re: Re: A perfect example of Aircraft Spruce & Specialty HIGHWAY RO (Jack Phillips)
35. 05:01 PM - Re: Re: A perfect example of Aircraft Spruce & Specialty HIGHWAY RO (Dan Yocum)
36. 06:28 PM - Re: A perfect example of Aircraft Spruce & Specialty HIGHWAY RO (jarheadpilot82)
37. 06:57 PM - Re: Making Spars (Bill Church)
38. 10:16 PM - Horizontal StabilizerAttachment (Chris)
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| Subject: | Somewhat OT - Private Airfields |
Does anyone on the Piet list have some knowledge or experience with formal airport
procedures and how they relate to liability insurance? Is it preferable to
have formal procedures, or are they not necessary? I would appreciate any comments
from anyone who has had to deal with this issue.
John Franklin
Prairie Aire 4TA0
Needville, TX
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I was able to get the flanged crank engine apart yesterday. It all came apa
rt quite nicely. Today I will start on engine 2.
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Michael Perez
Karetaker Aero
www.karetakeraero.com
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| Subject: | for you guys who smoke 'em |
I'm rigging up my smoke system and wonder if you smokers out there (and you
know who you are.) can tell me how you connected your oil tubes to the
exhaust pipes?
I'm trying to figure out what size orifice I need, and what type of tubing
withstands the heat well as it connects to the hot pipes and just general
detail stuff like that.
Thanks in advance!
Douwe
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| Subject: | Re: Somewhat OT - Private Airfields |
John ,could you be a little more explicit in your question? Gardiner
--- On Mon, 2/13/12, John Franklin <jbfjr@peoplepc.com> wrote:
> From: John Franklin <jbfjr@peoplepc.com>
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Somewhat OT - Private Airfields
> To: "Piet_List" <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Date: Monday, February 13, 2012, 10:14 AM
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted
> by: John Franklin <jbfjr@peoplepc.com>
>
> Does anyone on the Piet list have some knowledge or
> experience with formal airport procedures and how they
> relate to liability insurance? Is it preferable to
> have formal procedures, or are they not necessary? I
> would appreciate any comments from anyone who has had to
> deal with this issue.
>
> John Franklin
> Prairie Aire 4TA0
> Needville, TX
>
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| Subject: | Re: Engine 1 Appart |
Mike,
Looking good! Nice to see that you and I have the same barber.
do not archive
John Hofmann
Vice-President, Information Technology
The Rees Group, Inc.
2424 American Lane
Madison, WI 53704
Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
Fax: 608.443.2474
Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com
On Feb 13, 2012, at 9:22 AM, Michael Perez wrote:
> I was able to get the flanged crank engine apart yesterday. It all
came apart quite nicely. Today I will start on engine 2.
>
>
> Michael Perez
> Karetaker Aero
> www.karetakeraero.com
> <IMG_6453.JPG><IMG_6460.JPG>
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| Subject: | Re: Engine 1 Appart |
Yeah John, nature does most of it, I do the rest!
Michael Perez
Karetaker Aero
www.karetakeraero.com
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| Subject: | Engine Accessories, Manuals Needed |
Crew, Here are some accessories I have from both engines. What I need now a
re the overhaul manuals if available.
-
NAS3B carb.
-
Pair of Case magnetos (J.I. Case?) No numbers yet found
-
Pair of Eisemann AM-4
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Any help, advise, links/source for manuals, etc. greatly appreciated.
Michael Perez
Karetaker Aero
www.karetakeraero.com
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| Subject: | Re: Somewhat OT - Private Airfields |
Hi Gardiner,
At our rather small private airfield we are starting to organize and maybe have
a fly-in. We have an owner's group and we have insurance but we don't have written
airport procedures such as frequency, traffic pattern, taxiing and parking
details, etc. The kind of stuff you might see on AirNav.com. We're wondering
if we should require anyone who wants to fly into our field to have signed
a document that acknowledges that they have read and understand the procedures
before they fly in. Obviously this is for liability purposes and I was wondering
if anyone on the list has experience with this matter. Snooping around
the web I have seen private airfields that have written procedures and some have
a website where you can read the procedures and then send an email stating
you have read and will follow them.
Thanks,
John F.
-----Original Message-----
>From: airlion <airlion@bellsouth.net>
>Sent: Feb 13, 2012 9:34 AM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Somewhat OT - Private Airfields
>
>
>John ,could you be a little more explicit in your question? Gardiner
>
>--- On Mon, 2/13/12, John Franklin <jbfjr@peoplepc.com> wrote:
>
>> From: John Franklin <jbfjr@peoplepc.com>
>> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Somewhat OT - Private Airfields
>> To: "Piet_List" <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
>> Date: Monday, February 13, 2012, 10:14 AM
>> --> Pietenpol-List message posted
>> by: John Franklin <jbfjr@peoplepc.com>
>>
>> Does anyone on the Piet list have some knowledge or
>> experience with formal airport procedures and how they
>> relate to liability insurance? Is it preferable to
>> have formal procedures, or are they not necessary? I
>> would appreciate any comments from anyone who has had to
>> deal with this issue.
>>
>> John Franklin
>> Prairie Aire 4TA0
>> Needville, TX
>>
>> ________________________________________
>>
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>> - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS -
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>> -Matt
>> Dralle, List Admin.
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| Subject: | Re: Somewhat OT - Private Airfields |
John,
If you have an airfield, and an owner's group, do you not have at least a non-written,
gentleman's agreement among the members as to landing patterns and altitudes?
If you do, I would recommend that you simply put it on paper and publicize
it as part of your information that you send out to potential participants.
Of course, I would send it out with the requirement to return acknowledgement
that they have read and understand the "course rules".
I do not have much experience with small private fields, but the ones that I know
of do require, at a minimum, a hold harmless agreement to be signed before
they will allow someone to land there. I do think that the good old days of just
letting folks just fly in without regard for such matters is long past. You
don't have to do it, and probably some forum embers may think it is overkill
to do so, but the worst time to need a hold harmless agreement is when you do
not have it.
2 last thoughts-
1. Have you contacted the organizers of the Brodhead fly-in to see what suggestions
they have for you?
2. Surely at least one of your members is an AOPA member. I would recommend searching
the AOPA website. They have a lot of good information on there for download.
You might even try calling EAA or searching the EAA website for the same
information.
Hope that helps and let us all know when it happens. Sounds like fun!
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Semper Fi,
Terry Hand
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| Subject: | Re: Somewhat OT - Private Airfields |
John,
I am the treasurer for the Midwest Antique Airplane Association. We put
on our GrassRoots flyin every September in Brodhead, WI. I have
purchased event insurance through AUA (Norma Joyce) at very reasonable
rates for the past several years. It includes our flyin and a our
monthly member meetings that are often held at an airport in Wisconsin
or Northern Illinois. Norma can let you know what you need.
-john-
John Hofmann
Vice-President, Information Technology
The Rees Group, Inc.
2424 American Lane
Madison, WI 53704
Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
Fax: 608.443.2474
Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com
On Feb 13, 2012, at 11:06 AM, John Franklin wrote:
<jbfjr@peoplepc.com>
>
> Hi Gardiner,
>
> At our rather small private airfield we are starting to organize and
maybe have a fly-in. We have an owner's group and we have insurance but
we don't have written airport procedures such as frequency, traffic
pattern, taxiing and parking details, etc. The kind of stuff you might
see on AirNav.com. We're wondering if we should require anyone who
wants to fly into our field to have signed a document that acknowledges
that they have read and understand the procedures before they fly in.
Obviously this is for liability purposes and I was wondering if anyone
on the list has experience with this matter. Snooping around the web I
have seen private airfields that have written procedures and some have a
website where you can read the procedures and then send an email stating
you have read and will follow them.
>
> Thanks,
> John F.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>> From: airlion <airlion@bellsouth.net>
>> Sent: Feb 13, 2012 9:34 AM
>> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Somewhat OT - Private Airfields
>>
>>
>> John ,could you be a little more explicit in your question? Gardiner
>>
>> --- On Mon, 2/13/12, John Franklin <jbfjr@peoplepc.com> wrote:
>>
>>> From: John Franklin <jbfjr@peoplepc.com>
>>> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Somewhat OT - Private Airfields
>>> To: "Piet_List" <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
>>> Date: Monday, February 13, 2012, 10:14 AM
>>> --> Pietenpol-List message posted
>>> by: John Franklin <jbfjr@peoplepc.com>
>>>
>>> Does anyone on the Piet list have some knowledge or
>>> experience with formal airport procedures and how they
>>> relate to liability insurance? Is it preferable to
>>> have formal procedures, or are they not necessary? I
>>> would appreciate any comments from anyone who has had to
>>> deal with this issue.
>>>
>>> John Franklin
>>> Prairie Aire 4TA0
>>> Needville, TX
>>>
>>> ________________________________________
>>>
>>> Email Forum -
>>> - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS -
>>> List Contribution Web Site -
>>> -Matt
>>> Dralle, List Admin.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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| Subject: | Re: Somewhat OT - Private Airfields |
If you have non-aviators at the field, make sure you have a mechanism for
educating them about the runway environment, maybe even nasty-grams for
repeat offenders. Warn any potential users about the potential for
negligence causing injury, loss or death to them. If you have them waive
their rights, encourage them to keep a copy, perhaps with the negligence
clause bold and highlighted so that they don't bother hiring an attorney
should one of the protected parties do something stupid.
http://www.ntsb.gov/aviationquery/brief.aspx?ev_id 080207X00156&key=1
I think "crunched" would be a more accurate description than "bent" but
otherwise it's a good description of what happened. I should be back in
the air soon, though. I need to order that helicoil.
Andrew
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 10:06 AM, John Franklin <jbfjr@peoplepc.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Gardiner,
>
> At our rather small private airfield we are starting to organize and maybe
> have a fly-in. We have an owner's group and we have insurance but we don't
> have written airport procedures such as frequency, traffic pattern, taxiing
> and parking details, etc. The kind of stuff you might see on AirNav.com.
> We're wondering if we should require anyone who wants to fly into our
> field to have signed a document that acknowledges that they have read and
> understand the procedures before they fly in. Obviously this is for
> liability purposes and I was wondering if anyone on the list has experience
> with this matter. Snooping around the web I have seen private airfields
> that have written procedures and some have a website where you can read the
> procedures and then send an email stating you have read and will follow
> them.
>
> Thanks,
> John F.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: airlion <airlion@bellsouth.net>
> >Sent: Feb 13, 2012 9:34 AM
> >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> >Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Somewhat OT - Private Airfields
> >
> >
> >John ,could you be a little more explicit in your question? Gardiner
> >
> >--- On Mon, 2/13/12, John Franklin <jbfjr@peoplepc.com> wrote:
> >
> >> From: John Franklin <jbfjr@peoplepc.com>
> >> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Somewhat OT - Private Airfields
> >> To: "Piet_List" <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> >> Date: Monday, February 13, 2012, 10:14 AM
> >> --> Pietenpol-List message posted
> >> by: John Franklin <jbfjr@peoplepc.com>
> >>
> >> Does anyone on the Piet list have some knowledge or
> >> experience with formal airport procedures and how they
> >> relate to liability insurance? Is it preferable to
> >> have formal procedures, or are they not necessary? I
> >> would appreciate any comments from anyone who has had to
> >> deal with this issue.
> >>
> >> John Franklin
> >> Prairie Aire 4TA0
> >> Needville, TX
> >>
> >> ________________________________________
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> >>
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Andrew Eldredge
Provo, UT
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Thought I would pass this along as it may help someone down the road.
Nearly 15 years ago, I purchased (9) 4/4 x 6 x 16ft spar grade Sitka Spruce boards
from McCormick Lumber. Three of the nine were adjacent cuts from the same
tree! Grain is nearly perfectly vertical and does not runout more than in the
full 16. Needless to say, I was a little worried about scrapping one of these
beauties!
After planing the spars to thickness this last weekend, I needed to establish a
straight edge to then rip them to width. Three of the four had about 5/8 of cup
along their 16 length. As you may already know, wrangling 16 boards for edging
(jointing) is not a fun jobespecially having only a 4 jointer table. Being
one to always try to minimize outside services, the following is how I overcame
this issue.
Starting with the boards laying on a flat 16 surface, I ran a tight string (20#
fishing line) full length of the boards and raised up on blocks of wood at each
end. I transferred the line established by the tight string to the face of
the board using a sharp pencil and a square(just touching the string) in a dozen
places along the length of the board. I then used a 5 straight edge clamped
to the board at the proper setback distance to guide my router (with a straight
roughing bit) to clean up a 4ft section at a time. Moving down in (3) more
setups, I was able to route a perfectly straight face 16 long. Taking my time,
I finished all (4) spars in about two hours. Final test was putting two boards
edge to edge.not even 1/16 gap.
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| Subject: | Re: Engine Accessories, Manuals Needed |
Michael,
This site has a lot of very useful manuals. Maybe not exactly what you're looking
for, but probably helpful overall.
http://www.aeronca.com/manuals/
Bill C.
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| Subject: | Re: Engine Accessories, Manuals Needed |
Mike, Google each one and you will get a lot of info back. I rebuilt my Cas
e Mags and the Stromburg carb. If you want to get rid of the case mags I'd
be interested. Oh!!!! by the way look up antique mags on Youtube there is
a wealt of info there. I should tell you that finding parts for the Case ma
gs is close to impossible.
Dave
Dave Nielsen
sentuchows@aol.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Perez <speedbrake@sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Mon, Feb 13, 2012 11:21 am
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Engine Accessories, Manuals Needed
Crew, Here are some accessories I have from both engines. What I need now a
re the overhaul manuals if available.
NAS3B carb.
Pair of Case magnetos (J.I. Case?) No numbers yet found
Pair of Eisemann AM-4
Any help, advise, links/source for manuals, etc. greatly appreciated.
Michael Perez
Karetaker Aero
www.karetakeraero.com
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| Subject: | Re: Engine Accessories, Manuals Needed |
The J.I. Case (tractor company) magneto line became part of Slick long ago,
and repair parts have not been available for many years. The Eisemanns are
going to be a little easier to find parts for, but not much better.
Brett Phillips
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On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Michael Perez <speedbrake@sbcglobal.net>wrote:
> Crew, Here are some accessories I have from both engines. What I need now
> are the overhaul manuals if available.
>
> NAS3B carb.
>
> Pair of Case magnetos (J.I. Case?) No numbers yet found
>
> Pair of Eisemann AM-4
>
> Any help, advise, links/source for manuals, etc. greatly appreciated.
>
> Michael Perez
> Karetaker Aero
> <http://www.karetakeraero.com>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Somewhat OT - Private Airfields |
John,
Based on the airport ID, the 4 digits indicate a private airstrip, 3 digits
a public airstrip
Private airstrips by FAA standard is: land at your own risk
Public airstrip by FAA standard the airport owner is liable.
Since you have a 4 digit code you could operate without liability to the ow
ners group.
But if you start a Fly-in and you "invite" people fly-in to your airport an
d you publish a pattern procedure.
You do set your self up for a liability.
The way around it is; to publish not a fly-in but announce a annual BBQ or
Pancake break fast.
Avoid the word Fly-in.
Anyone that shows up "flying in" is doing so at their own risk.
My 2 cents...
Hans
NX15KV
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-----Original Message-----
From: John Franklin <jbfjr@peoplepc.com>
Sent: Mon, Feb 13, 2012 11:08 am
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Somewhat OT - Private Airfields
Hi Gardiner,
At our rather small private airfield we are starting to organize and maybe
have
fly-in. We have an owner's group and we have insurance but we don't have
ritten airport procedures such as frequency, traffic pattern, taxiing and
arking details, etc. The kind of stuff you might see on AirNav.com. We're
ondering if we should require anyone who wants to fly into our field to hav
e
igned a document that acknowledges that they have read and understand the
rocedures before they fly in. Obviously this is for liability purposes and
I
as wondering if anyone on the list has experience with this matter. Snoopi
ng
round the web I have seen private airfields that have written procedures an
d
ome have a website where you can read the procedures and then send an email
tating you have read and will follow them.
Thanks,
ohn F.
----Original Message-----
From: airlion <airlion@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Feb 13, 2012 9:34 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Somewhat OT - Private Airfields
John ,could you be a little more explicit in your question? Gardiner
--- On Mon, 2/13/12, John Franklin <jbfjr@peoplepc.com> wrote:
> From: John Franklin <jbfjr@peoplepc.com>
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Somewhat OT - Private Airfields
> To: "Piet_List" <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Date: Monday, February 13, 2012, 10:14 AM
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted
> by: John Franklin <jbfjr@peoplepc.com>
>
> Does anyone on the Piet list have some knowledge or
> experience with formal airport procedures and how they
> relate to liability insurance? Is it preferable to
> have formal procedures, or are they not necessary? I
> would appreciate any comments from anyone who has had to
> deal with this issue.
>
> John Franklin
> Prairie Aire 4TA0
> Needville, TX
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| Subject: | Re: for you guys who smoke 'em |
A piece of stainless tubing at the exhaust will conduct less heat and Viton tubing
can stand up to 400F. Viton has good oil resistance too. I have no idea about
orifice size. I would start at a #75 drill and keep drilling larger until
it made good smoke at the pressure you are going to operate at. I like Mike Cuys
sprayer tank with built in pump. Some come with a brass nozzle that might work
as an adjustable orifice in the exhaust. I am just throwing stuff out there.
I have never made smoke and don't blow no smoke!
do not archive
--------
Jerry Dotson
59 Daniel Johnson Rd
Baker, FL 32531
Started building NX510JD July, 2009
now covering and painting
21" wheels
Lycoming O-235 C2C
Jay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44
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| Subject: | Re: Engine Accessories, Manuals Needed |
One nice thing about Case mags is that there are no ADs on them.
Dave
Dave Nielsen <sentuchows@aol.com> wrote:
Mike, Google each one and you will get a lot of info back. I rebuilt my Case Mags
and the Stromburg carb. If you want to get rid of the case mags I'd be interested.
Oh!!!! by the way look up antique mags on Youtube there is a wealt of
info there. I should tell you that finding parts for the Case mags is close to
impossible.
Dave
Dave Nielsen
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-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Perez <speedbrake@sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Mon, Feb 13, 2012 11:21 am
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Engine Accessories, Manuals Needed
Crew, Here are some accessories I have from both engines. What I need now are the
overhaul manuals if available.
NAS3B carb.
Pair of Case magnetos (J.I. Case?) No numbers yet found
Pair of Eisemann AM-4
Any help, advise, links/source for manuals, etc. greatly appreciated.
Michael Perez
Karetaker Aero
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| Subject: | Re: Somewhat OT - Private Airfields |
Hi John,Thanks for replying. Last year at sun n fun my plane was destroyed due
to a tornado and sun n fun is trying to get a settlement for the towing an cleanup
for my 16sq ft area where my plane was tieddown. My feeling is that they
should have insurance for that. It was an act of God. Gardiner
--- On Mon, 2/13/12, John Franklin <jbfjr@peoplepc.com> wrote:
> From: John Franklin <jbfjr@peoplepc.com>
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Somewhat OT - Private Airfields
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Date: Monday, February 13, 2012, 12:06 PM
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted
> by: John Franklin <jbfjr@peoplepc.com>
>
> Hi Gardiner,
>
> At our rather small private airfield we are starting to
> organize and maybe have a fly-in. We have an owner's
> group and we have insurance but we don't have written
> airport procedures such as frequency, traffic pattern,
> taxiing and parking details, etc. The kind of stuff
> you might see on AirNav.com. We're wondering if we
> should require anyone who wants to fly into our field to
> have signed a document that acknowledges that they have read
> and understand the procedures before they fly in.
> Obviously this is for liability purposes and I was wondering
> if anyone on the list has experience with this matter.
> Snooping around the web I have seen private airfields that
> have written procedures and some have a website where you
> can read the procedures and then send an email stating you
> have read and will follow them.
>
> Thanks,
> John F.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: airlion <airlion@bellsouth.net>
> >Sent: Feb 13, 2012 9:34 AM
> >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> >Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Somewhat OT - Private
> Airfields
> >
> >
> >John ,could you be a little more explicit in your
> question? Gardiner
> >
> >--- On Mon, 2/13/12, John Franklin <jbfjr@peoplepc.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> From: John Franklin <jbfjr@peoplepc.com>
> >> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Somewhat OT - Private
> Airfields
> >> To: "Piet_List" <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> >> Date: Monday, February 13, 2012, 10:14 AM
> >> --> Pietenpol-List message posted
> >> by: John Franklin <jbfjr@peoplepc.com>
> >>
> >> Does anyone on the Piet list have some knowledge
> or
> >> experience with formal airport procedures and how
> they
> >> relate to liability insurance? Is it preferable
> to
> >> have formal procedures, or are they not
> necessary? I
> >> would appreciate any comments from anyone who has
> had to
> >> deal with this issue.
> >>
> >> John Franklin
> >> Prairie Aire 4TA0
> >> Needville, TX
> >>
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| Subject: | Re: Somewhat OT - Private Airfields |
Where is your airfield? Also you might want to contact Tripple Tree Aerodrome in
South Carolina on how they handle it. That is a great place to fly in. Cheers,
Gardiner
--- On Mon, 2/13/12, John Franklin <jbfjr@peoplepc.com> wrote:
> From: John Franklin <jbfjr@peoplepc.com>
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Somewhat OT - Private Airfields
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Date: Monday, February 13, 2012, 12:06 PM
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted
> by: John Franklin <jbfjr@peoplepc.com>
>
> Hi Gardiner,
>
> At our rather small private airfield we are starting to
> organize and maybe have a fly-in. We have an owner's
> group and we have insurance but we don't have written
> airport procedures such as frequency, traffic pattern,
> taxiing and parking details, etc. The kind of stuff
> you might see on AirNav.com. We're wondering if we
> should require anyone who wants to fly into our field to
> have signed a document that acknowledges that they have read
> and understand the procedures before they fly in.
> Obviously this is for liability purposes and I was wondering
> if anyone on the list has experience with this matter.
> Snooping around the web I have seen private airfields that
> have written procedures and some have a website where you
> can read the procedures and then send an email stating you
> have read and will follow them.
>
> Thanks,
> John F.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: airlion <airlion@bellsouth.net>
> >Sent: Feb 13, 2012 9:34 AM
> >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> >Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Somewhat OT - Private
> Airfields
> >
> >
> >John ,could you be a little more explicit in your
> question? Gardiner
> >
> >--- On Mon, 2/13/12, John Franklin <jbfjr@peoplepc.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> From: John Franklin <jbfjr@peoplepc.com>
> >> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Somewhat OT - Private
> Airfields
> >> To: "Piet_List" <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> >> Date: Monday, February 13, 2012, 10:14 AM
> >> --> Pietenpol-List message posted
> >> by: John Franklin <jbfjr@peoplepc.com>
> >>
> >> Does anyone on the Piet list have some knowledge
> or
> >> experience with formal airport procedures and how
> they
> >> relate to liability insurance? Is it preferable
> to
> >> have formal procedures, or are they not
> necessary? I
> >> would appreciate any comments from anyone who has
> had to
> >> deal with this issue.
> >>
> >> John Franklin
> >> Prairie Aire 4TA0
> >> Needville, TX
> >>
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| Subject: | Re: Somewhat OT - Private Airfields |
Now is the time for me to make a shameless plug for www.theRAF.org(The Recreational Aviation Foundation) This is a group working to take liability issues away from private air strips. Most states have a Recreational Use Statute but fail to include non commercial aviation.
The following states have in their Statutes aviation-specific language:
Idaho, Maine, Massachusetts, Montana, New Hampshire, New Mexico, Utah, Arizona,
Pennsylvania, and Kansas being the latest addition in 2011. Most of this thanks
to the efforts of volunteers of The Recreational Aviation Foundation.
The Florida legislature is in session now and my local state senator Greg Evers
is working to get "recreational noncommercial aircraft operations " added to
the Florida statute. I am actively working trying to get this done. I urge everyone
that has an interest in flying into private airstrips to become involved.
I became involved about a year ago when a pilot with 2 passengers "dropped in"
on my 1300 foot strip in a Piper Arrow. I had a Rolaid attack!
do not archive
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Jerry Dotson
59 Daniel Johnson Rd
Baker, FL 32531
Started building NX510JD July, 2009
now covering and painting
21" wheels
Lycoming O-235 C2C
Jay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44
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| Subject: | for you guys who smoke 'em |
Douwe,
It's been over a year since I did mine, and remembering that far back is
asking a lot of my brain, but here's what I did as best I remember
I made a steel bushing that I threaded for a 1/8" NPT pipe thread. I welded
that to the exhaust manifold just below the exhaust port for the number 1
cylinder (my exhaust manifold is plain carbon steel, not stainless). Once
the bushing was securely welded in place, I drilled a # 40 hole through the
wall of the exhaust stack, centered on the hole in the bushing. Then I just
used a steel AN816-2 flared tube nipple to screw into the pipe thread
bushing on the exhaust stack. I flared a piece of 1/8" stainless steel
tubing and attached it to the nipple with an AN818-2 steel coupling nut. I
ran the stainless tubing back from the engine towards the firewall for about
12" than transitioned to a piece of rubber tubing that went to my pump. For
the pump I used a cheap 12 volt windshield washer pump that I bought at an
auto parts store.
I figured if a # 40 hole wasn't big enough, I could always drill it larger,
but it seems to do just fine. I would like to try Canopus 13 or Corvus Oil
sometime, like the Big Dogs (including Mike Cuy) use, but at over $500 a
barrel, I can't afford it. I just go to Automatic Transmission shops and
beg for old used transmission fluid. They are happy to give it away and it
works well, but doesn't have the staying power of Canopus Oil. If I ever go
into the skywriting business, I'll have to buy the more expensive premium
stuff.
Here's a picture Bill Church took last summer at Brodhead:
And here's a short video my wife shot when I made my first flight test with
the new smoke system:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DTmKApOPyw
Have fun!
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Douwe
Blumberg
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 10:24 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: for you guys who smoke 'em
I'm rigging up my smoke system and wonder if you smokers out there (and you
know who you are.) can tell me how you connected your oil tubes to the
exhaust pipes?
I'm trying to figure out what size orifice I need, and what type of tubing
withstands the heat well as it connects to the hot pipes and just general
detail stuff like that.
Thanks in advance!
Douwe
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| Subject: | for you guys who smoke 'em |
Douwe,
A long while ago I wrote this up and Chris Tracy was kind enough to post it
on his Westcoast Piet web page.
http://www.westcoastpiet.com/
Jack's idea or mine work equally as well, the only differences being that I
have stainless (Aeronca Champ from Aircraft Spruce)
pipes and used a stainless Swaglok fitting as described below.
I ran my metal tubing thru the firewall (with a rubber grommet for chafe pr
otection)then connected it to the poly tubing using a section of rubber hos
e and hose clamps.
Some oil distributor places will sell you 5 gallon pails of the smoke oil b
ut you have to make lots of phone calls to find them in
your area using Google. What you're looking for is basically mineral oil.
Some call it cement mold release oil, some use it in bakery
equipment and dentist drills.
Mike C.
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-lis
t-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack Phillips
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 2:05 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: for you guys who smoke 'em
Douwe,
It's been over a year since I did mine, and remembering that far back is as
king a lot of my brain, but here's what I did as best I remember
I made a steel bushing that I threaded for a 1/8" NPT pipe thread. I welde
d that to the exhaust manifold just below the exhaust port for the number 1
cylinder (my exhaust manifold is plain carbon steel, not stainless). Once
the bushing was securely welded in place, I drilled a # 40 hole through th
e wall of the exhaust stack, centered on the hole in the bushing. Then I j
ust used a steel AN816-2 flared tube nipple to screw into the pipe thread b
ushing on the exhaust stack. I flared a piece of 1/8" stainless steel tubi
ng and attached it to the nipple with an AN818-2 steel coupling nut. I ran
the stainless tubing back from the engine towards the firewall for about 1
2" than transitioned to a piece of rubber tubing that went to my pump. For
the pump I used a cheap 12 volt windshield washer pump that I bought at an
auto parts store.
I figured if a # 40 hole wasn't big enough, I could always drill it larger,
but it seems to do just fine. I would like to try Canopus 13 or Corvus Oi
l sometime, like the Big Dogs (including Mike Cuy) use, but at over $500 a
barrel, I can't afford it. I just go to Automatic Transmission shops and b
eg for old used transmission fluid. They are happy to give it away and it
works well, but doesn't have the staying power of Canopus Oil. If I ever g
o into the skywriting business, I'll have to buy the more expensive premium
stuff.
Here's a picture Bill Church took last summer at Brodhead:
[cid:image002.jpg@01CCEA5B.DE9A4F00]
And here's a short video my wife shot when I made my first flight test with
the new smoke system:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DTmKApOPyw
Have fun!
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
________________________________
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-lis
t-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Douwe Blumberg
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 10:24 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: for you guys who smoke 'em
I'm rigging up my smoke system and wonder if you smokers out there (and you
know who you are...) can tell me how you connected your oil tubes to the e
xhaust pipes?
I'm trying to figure out what size orifice I need, and what type of tubing
withstands the heat well as it connects to the hot pipes and just general d
etail stuff like that.
Thanks in advance!
Douwe
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
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| Subject: | A perfect example of Aircraft Spruce & Specialty HIGHWAY |
ROBBERY---smoke oil ripoff
Wow...well it didn't take long to find out where NOT to buy smoke oil.
If you want to pay TRIPLE the
going rate for smoke oil just buy it from ACS & Specialty. They want $17
8.50 for a five gallon quantity of
it.
Go to ANY of the other distributors for this stuff if you want to pay a rea
sonable price for it---and even then
it is a little expensive but what oil or gasoline isn't these days.
If you want it for $86 instead of $178.....go here: http://www.mdwaviatio
n.com/v2/
I have a feeling you could find mineral oil at less cost but do your homewo
rk and don't buy it from Jim Irwin
and Aircraft Spruce.
Aircraft Spruce has lots of good products at fair prices but you really hav
e to watch them...they are really good
at exercising capitalism and my hat is off to them for that but buyer be ve
ry aware.
Mike C.
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| Subject: | Re: I need encouragement...Fying stories and pictures! |
Couple of weeks ago we were looking for something different. I found Dublin, TX
on $100 hamburger - home of the world's oldest Dr. Pepper bottling plant. One
fuel stop each way for me, none for the 152 or the Kitfox. Phone at the airport
brought out the local police and she took us to the diner/museum/bottling
plant and back. Great fun. Freakin' cold. Here are a couple of pics.
do not archive
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NX899KP
Austin/Georgetown, TX
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| Subject: | Re: I need encouragement...Fying stories and pictures! |
Here's my story from a few months ago (links at end of post). Otherwise all I've
got for ya is that it's worth it! I waited FAR too long and spent way more
time than it would have taken me to build one, building and fixing OTHER things...
big mistake. I'm fixing that now.
I'm still flying every day I can. While I'll not get much sympathy from most of
the crowd, it's darn cold up there when the ambient temp is in the high 30's
to low 40's, but it's STILL worth it, even for a thin blooded southern type like
myself. Flew around the last two days for about 30 minutes each day. Yesterday
was especially cool, I found a birthday gift from a buddy 15 years ago,
a 50's vintage German leather flying helmet. I threw that on, my Navy leather
flying jacket (who knew it'd ever be used for what it was made for!), pulled
her out of the hangar, pulled it through a half dozen times, threw the mags on,
propped her and jumped in. Never turned on a radio, intercom, transponder,
nothing... just went flying. Turns out, keeping her around 60 mph is the best
when it's that cold out.
Just the funnest thing ever. And it seems Piet types seem to enjoy their birds
more than most. Pretty sure my plane has been out of the hangar more than any
other plane based in 9A5.
When I need a little pick me up, I go to youtube and watch Piet flying videos.
There's quite a few really good ones. If they don't get you all motivated, you're
probably building the wrong plane!
Tools
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=84807&highlight
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=84904&highlight
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| Subject: | Re: A perfect example of Aircraft Spruce & Specialty HIGHWAY |
RO
I did a quick Google Search for Mineral Oil and came up with $15.00 per gallon
plus shipping-
I notice they are a tack and feed business, so you "smokers' out there might try
calling the local tack and feed store. You may get lucky.
Hope it helps.
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Semper Fi,
Terry Hand
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| Subject: | Re: I need encouragement...Fying stories and pictures! |
Axel, I am in Austin doing Annual Training. Would love tocome out and inspect your
plane ;-}
Steve D
----- Original Message -----
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Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: I need encouragement...Fying stories and pictures!
>
> Couple of weeks ago we were looking for something different. I found Dublin,
TX on $100 hamburger - home of the world's oldest Dr. Pepper
> bottling plant. One fuel stop each way for me, none for the 152
> or the Kitfox. Phone at the airport brought out the local police
> and she took us to the diner/museum/bottling plant and back.
> Great fun. Freakin' cold. Here are a couple of pics.
>
> do not archive
>
> --------
> Kevin "Axel" Purtee
> NX899KP
> Austin/Georgetown, TX
>
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HIGHWAY RO
$15 a gallon is more than Canopus 13 costs, except you have to buy it in 55
gallon drums, which cost about $585. No thanks, I'll keep using used
transmission fluid, which is free.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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I did a quick Google Search for Mineral Oil and came up with $15.00 per
gallon plus shipping-
I notice they are a tack and feed business, so you "smokers' out there might
try calling the local tack and feed store. You may get lucky.
Hope it helps.
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You're welcome anytime, Sir.
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Nice job Mike. I am with you keeping "outside" services to a minimum. Every little
thing you do yourself may save some money, but it also gains you unknown knowledge.
(Good or bad!)
Michael Perez
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RO
Jack,
I just put it up there in comparison of Aircraft Spruce's price that averages $35.70
a gallon, as opposed to the $15.00 per gallon. Just a comparison. I do not
know what Canopus 13 is, but I did not think the $15.00 was too far off from
the $10.63 per gallon that the Canopus 13 averages, and you don't have to buy
a 55 gallon drum of it.
Does transmission fluid work? I never knew that before.
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HIGHWAY RO
It's all I've ever used. Chcuk Gantzer uses Baby Oil in his, but I think
per gallon that costs even more than Canopus 13. Several years ago at
Brodhead, he bought every last bottle of Baby Oil in southern Wisconsin.
They had to import babies from Illinois to squeeze to make more oil.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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Jack,
I just put it up there in comparison of Aircraft Spruce's price that
averages $35.70 a gallon, as opposed to the $15.00 per gallon. Just a
comparison. I do not know what Canopus 13 is, but I did not think the $15.00
was too far off from the $10.63 per gallon that the Canopus 13 averages, and
you don't have to buy a 55 gallon drum of it.
Does transmission fluid work? I never knew that before.
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HIGHWAY RO
Yeah, Jack, does transmission fluid *reaaally* work? I can't believe what you
say, your picture, or the most excellent video. It must be photoshopped!
Jarhead, pull your head out of the jar - you're cutting off the oxygen supply to
your noggin.
:-\
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"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
On Feb 13, 2012, at 5:39 PM, "jarheadpilot82" <jarheadpilot82@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> I just put it up there in comparison of Aircraft Spruce's price that averages
$35.70 a gallon, as opposed to the $15.00 per gallon. Just a comparison. I do
not know what Canopus 13 is, but I did not think the $15.00 was too far off from
the $10.63 per gallon that the Canopus 13 averages, and you don't have to
buy a 55 gallon drum of it.
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> Does transmission fluid work? I never knew that before.
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RO
Jack may have got me on that one, but I just trust people, I guess.
One of my many faults. [Shocked]
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"Unknown knowledge"
Interesting term, Michael.
I didn't know that I knew about unknown knowledge, but now I know. No?
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| Subject: | Horizontal StabilizerAttachment |
When installing the horizontal stabilizer there are two fittings on the rear
and beneath the stabilizer. Two bolts are to pass through one fitting,
through the fuselage and through the second fitting. Problem is the
fuselage sides are not parallel in this area. I'm trying to figure out the
best way to run the bolts through the two fittings. Do I add wood shims so
the fittings lay flat or do I make wedge shaped washers for under the bolts?
Other suggestions?
Chris
Sacramento, Ca
Westcoastpiet.com
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