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1. 02:35 AM - Re: Throttle Linkage (Jack)
2. 04:02 AM - Re: First flight (John Kuhfahl)
3. 04:49 AM - Re: Throttle Linkage (BRETT PHILLIPS)
4. 05:02 AM - Re: Throttle Linkage (Jack Phillips)
5. 05:33 AM - Throttle Linkage (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP])
6. 05:43 AM - Re: Throttle Linkage (pineymb)
7. 06:25 AM - Re: Wings are on! (Mark Stanley)
8. 06:38 AM - a little more inspiration for Douwe (Dan Yocum)
9. 06:40 AM - Re: More wing info (C N Campbell)
10. 07:12 AM - Tony Bingelis: Firewall Forward Throttle Linkage (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP])
11. 08:56 AM - Re: Throttle Linkage (BYD)
12. 08:58 AM - Re: More wing info (BYD)
13. 09:11 AM - Re: Tony Bingelis: Firewall Forward Throttle Linkage (Jack@textors.com)
14. 09:26 AM - My Flop cutout (Ben Charvet)
15. 06:32 PM - Re: My Flop cutout (K5YAC)
16. 07:33 PM - Re: Re: My Flop cutout (Clif Dawson)
17. 10:43 PM - Air Camper NX13691 (Oscar Zuniga)
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| Subject: | Throttle Linkage |
Perfect Gary and Peter thanks!
Jack Textor
DSM
NX1929T
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 7:45 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Throttle Linkage
Does anyone out there have a picture of how their throttle linkage is hooked
up? Specifically, I'm thinking of using a rod for control in both cockpits.
How does this transition to cable and the carb?
Thanks,
Jack
Jack Textor
DSM
NX1929T
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| Subject: | Re: First flight |
Very nice. You should be proud! I am only a re-builder, and still, there
is nothing nicer than that "it really flies" moment. John
On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 9:45 AM, Michael Perez <speedbrake@sbcglobal.net>wrote:
> That is great news! As Jack said...it is great motivation for us whom are
> still building!
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> Michael Perez
> Karetaker Aero
> www.karetakeraero.com
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| Subject: | Re: Throttle Linkage |
I believe Bill Knight's Air Camper uses a single rod with knobs for both
cockpits. Sorry I don't have any pictures, but as I recall it is a very
simple arrangement that doesn't seem to get in the way as much as a lever
or quadrant can.
Brett Phillips
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| Subject: | Throttle Linkage |
That's what Mike Cuy uses as well. Similar to a Taylor Cub. I used the far
more advanced J-3 Cub as my model, with a rod between the two throttle
quadrants, and a cable from the front quadrant to the carburetor
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of BRETT
PHILLIPS
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 7:49 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Throttle Linkage
I believe Bill Knight's Air Camper uses a single rod with knobs for both
cockpits. Sorry I don't have any pictures, but as I recall it is a very
simple arrangement that doesn't seem to get in the way as much as a lever or
quadrant can.
Brett Phillips
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| Subject: | Throttle Linkage |
I used an 1/8" 4130 steel rod for my throttle control which is joined to a
commercial (ACS or Wicks) throttle cable
assembly via an aluminum connector that is threaded on both sides (like a t
urnbuckle but with locking jamb nuts on
either end) The connector was home made.
The wooden ball (a drawer pull knob from Lowe's) is attached with an Adell
clamp to the throttle rod.
Mike C.
(photo is of the passenger cockpit)
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| Subject: | Re: Throttle Linkage |
Jack
This is what I did on my first Piet project and although it was a bit of work making
push-rods and a bell crank, it worked quite well. In hind site I would of
used a different quadrant, but had these two on hand. The purpose of the bell-crank
was twofold, it reversed the action of the throttle lever and also provided
the transition from rod to cable. The throttle cable is a standard push/pull
one from ACS with threaded ends.
Hope this helps.
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Adrian M
Winnipeg, MB
Canada
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| Subject: | Re: Wings are on! |
Looking Good Rick!
I especially like the first photo.....it's a stupid comment, but it really
'looks vintage', great stuff!
Mark Stanley
Japan
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-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Schreiber
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 12:06 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wings are on!
Yesterday was another milestone on my project. The wings were finally
mated to the fuselage for the first time. We had about 7 people for the
task and it wound up being a smooth operation. I used the support idea
from Jack Phillips (adjustable using threaded allrod) and the adjustable
electrical conduit for the temporary struts from Lowell Frank.
The wings are now in rig and today I will be finishing up the aileron
cables.
Attached are a few pictures. As often as I have been around Piets, I was
still not prepared for how big it really is once the wings are on.
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| Subject: | a little more inspiration for Douwe |
As I clearly state in the video, "Gep to work on your plane!":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DLGrLdN6AI&feature=g-upl&context=G25a499cAUAAAAAAAAAA
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| Subject: | Re: More wing info |
Ben, where did you hinge your flop? My ribs have a reinforcing member
running from the bottom cap strip forward to the top cap strip, the bottom
member is about 18 inches from the trailing edge (see attachment). I was
thinking of putting my flop in at that diagonal member. Do you think this
would allow room for an OLD man to get in and out of the cockpit? Chuck
> I built a flop into mine too. I don't use it getting in, but it sure
> helps when its time to get out!
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> --
> Ben Charvet, PharmD
> Staff Pharmacist
> Parrish Medical center
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| Subject: | Tony Bingelis: Firewall Forward Throttle Linkage |
As you all know I get royalties every time I mention Tony's books (right!)
but once again it dawned on me that these books are perfect for just about
every question we face building airplanes including the throttle question.
What I love is that Tony gives you two or three ways to tackle a particular
task and then you can adapt whatever is best to your desires, airplane, and
expenses.
Mike C.
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| Subject: | Re: Throttle Linkage |
Jack,
I obtained a generic choke cable from a local auto parts store and broke the plastic
handle off and then flattened that end then drilled a hole in it for a clevis
pin. The metal rod from the throttle quadrant terminates in a fork end
into which the flattened end fits and a clevis pin goes through to hold them together.
The choke cable provides an acceptable firewall penetration with its
normal mounting hardware and you have a wire ending at the carburetor for mounting
to the linkage. A clamp to hold the outer sheathing is simple to make allowing
adjustment. Simple and cheap but may not be to standards for some.
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| Subject: | Re: More wing info |
Rick,
I made the same decision at the same time. BHP has been quoted as stating that
a cutout is equivalent to shortening the wings by two feet.
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| Subject: | Re: Tony Bingelis: Firewall Forward Throttle Linkage |
I agree Mike! I did check Tony out but I really appreciate other ideas as well.
Thanks!
Jack Textor
Sent from my iPad
On Feb 22, 2012, at 9:11 AM, "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP]"
<michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov> wrote:
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> As you all know I get royalties every time I mention Tony's books (right!)
> but once again it dawned on me that these books are perfect for just about
> every question we face building airplanes including the throttle question.
>
> What I love is that Tony gives you two or three ways to tackle a particular
> task and then you can adapt whatever is best to your desires, airplane, and
> expenses.
>
> Mike C.
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I added a spar to the center section where the aileron spar is, Made
the angled side pieces out of scrap 3/4 inch lumber routed out on the
side that doesn't show to decrease weight. The flop itself is made out
of aluminum and was pretty easy to fabricate with a small brake I
borrowed from a friend. A simple piano hinge on the front edge, and a
simple slide to hold it in place. Like I said in my previous post, my
wing is 4 inches back from vertical and I can get into the pilots seat
without opening the flop, but when getting out I open it and use the
cabanes to pull myself upright before stepping out.
Ben Charvet
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| Subject: | Re: My Flop cutout |
I did a similar thing with mine... installed a spar where the aileron spar would
be, but I really didn't want a flop so I just left it open. One thing I did
do was install a handle (a piece of 1.25x.049 4130 tube that will be pinned),
but I'm not actually sure that it will be necessary or even useful. I didn't
really think about using the cabane struts.
The hole is no big deal... I suppose I could cover it with fabric and never worry
about it. I'm not sure who all has a handle up there, but for those that do,
does anyone find it useful?
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Mark Chouinard
Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage
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| Subject: | Re: My Flop cutout |
Well, here's my flop. Open areas will be covered,
top and bottom, with thin lexan.
As for getting in and out, the process will be to
put right foot in step right behind cockpit, swing
left leg onto seat, bring right leg in, turn around
and sit down. Reverse when necessary. One
can even stand there and salute if the Majah
happens by.
Clif - STILL workin on the d#@ brakes! :-)
> I did a similar thing with mine... installed a spar where the aileron spar
> would be, but I really didn't want a flop so I just left it open. > Mark
> Chouinard
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| Subject: | Air Camper NX13691 |
Like Don and others, I find 13691 to be the perfect example
of an Air Camper and what we all aspire to. So clean, so
simple, so perfect in all her lines. And would you just zoom
in on the tailwheel and notice the dried grass still hanging
from the tail skid? Sigh. This is what Pietenpoling truly
is all about.
I miss my airplane. June can't come soon enough, when I will
make my way down to Texas to retrieve Scout.
Oscar Zuniga
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
Flying Squirrel N2069Z "Rocket"
Medford, OR
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net/
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