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1. 05:10 AM - Re: My Flop cutout (Dale McCleskey)
2. 05:28 AM - Re: Naked Piet pics 2000 vintage (AircamperN11MS)
3. 10:29 AM - Pietenpol accesories (Ben Charvet)
4. 10:37 AM - Re: Pietenpol accesories (tools)
5. 10:59 AM - Re: Pietenpol accesories (TOM STINEMETZE)
6. 11:09 AM - Pietenpol Accessories (Ben Charvet)
7. 11:09 AM - Re: Pietenpol accesories (Michael Perez)
8. 11:23 AM - Continental Teledyne Rant (Michael Perez)
9. 11:24 AM - Re: Pietenpol Accessories (Michael Perez)
10. 11:29 AM - Re: Pietenpol accesories (Ben Charvet)
11. 11:32 AM - Re: Continental Teledyne Rant (Ben Charvet)
12. 11:51 AM - Re: Continental Teledyne Rant (steve@wotelectronics.com)
13. 12:04 PM - Re: Pietenpol accesories (Bill Church)
14. 12:06 PM - Re: Continental Teledyne Rant (Bill Church)
15. 02:41 PM - Progress bragging! If you call it progress? (Kyle85)
16. 04:59 PM - Re: Progress bragging! If you call it progress? (Gboothe5)
17. 06:11 PM - Re: Progress bragging! If you call it progress? (Jack)
18. 06:36 PM - Nice one Mr. Textor (Greg Cardinal)
19. 06:53 PM - Re: Nice one Mr. Textor (kevinpurtee)
20. 07:00 PM - Re: Pietenpol Accessories (Clif Dawson)
21. 07:28 PM - Re: Nice one Mr. Textor (K5YAC)
22. 08:35 PM - Throttle Linkage (Oscar Zuniga)
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| Subject: | Re: My Flop cutout |
Mark, as to usefulness, I use mine every time I get in the plane. I like your design
because you have angular edges, will be easier to cover. I cut out a curve
and then had a heck of a time covering it and don't like the job I did. As
for a hand hold, I simply used a hardware store dowel. I guess if I'd gotten used
to climbing in with the cabanes I'd be happy with that, but the dowel sure
makes it easier for me to drag my old body into N7035N.
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N7035N
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| Subject: | Re: Naked Piet pics 2000 vintage |
Hi Earl,
Thanks for that. I have never heard it explained. It clears it up for me.
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Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
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| Subject: | Pietenpol accesories |
Finally finished with my appropriate transportation to the airport. Does thi
s qualify me as a Continental guy and a Model A guy both?
Ben Charvet
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| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol accesories |
Well, it probably oughta! Are you going to paint "Truck Rides" on the Piet? Fly
around the countryside and see if you can drum up some business.
I've never had a ride in a Model A pickup truck, I'd go for it...
Tools
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| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol accesories |
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| Subject: | Pietenpol Accessories |
Some day I'll learn how to not send upside down pictures off the stupid
smart-phone
Ben
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| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol accesories |
Very nice! Are you going to take the truck to shows or just enjoy it through driving
around?
Did you do a complete restoration, (frame off...if you will) or just cosmetically?
Michael Perez
Karetaker Aero
www.karetakeraero.com
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| Subject: | Continental Teledyne Rant |
So, feeling that a new, updated 2011 version of the A-65/75 Continental eng
ine overhaul manual would be best, I went right to the source to check one
out. On the website, the manual, (X30008,) is described as being 78 pages a
nd in a three ring binder. I like the 3 ringed idea so that I could pop out
the pages I needed for the work I would be doing that day, lay the pages o
ut on the counter, and not have to touch them. (For $80.00, I would like to
keep them clean.)
A few days ago, the manual arrived. Noticing that the package was only abou
t 3/4 of an inch thick, I knew it was no three ring binder. Upon opening, I
saw a spiral wound manual.- (so much for taking out the pages.)- Flipp
ing to the back, I see page number 68.- I was expecting to see 78, as adv
ertised. Doing some quick math, it turns out that if I count EVERY FACE OF
EVERY PAGE the manual is made of, I get 78 pages. This includes the cover,
inside cover, index pages ,inside back cover and outside back cover. Oh...a
nd...I also included the page(s) marked "This page left blank intentionally
."- I don't even think this/these pages even had a page number of any sor
t.
Anyhoo, I'm not pleased. So far Continental has not returned my inquiry ema
il.
Rant over...as you were.
Michael Perez
=0AKaretaker Aero
=0Awww.karetakeraero.com
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| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol Accessories |
Hold the phone upside down when you send them.
Michael Perez
Karetaker Aero
www.karetakeraero.com
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| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol accesories |
It was nearly a frame off restoration. Had parts spread all over for
the painting. I've taken it to one car show. It looks really great
from 20 ft, but its not a show car. My dad had a Model A when I was a
kid, and I've been wanting one for a while. Just an observation:
The Model A is to any modern car what the Pietenpol is to the Cessna
172. Still if you love Piets, you'd love the Model A. I mean whats the
fun in flying a 172?
Ben
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On 2/23/2012 2:08 PM, Michael Perez wrote:
> Very nice! Are you going to take the truck to shows or just enjoy it
> through driving around?
>
> Did you do a complete restoration, (frame off...if you will) or just
> cosmetically?
>
> Michael Perez
> Karetaker Aero
> www.karetakeraero.com
>
>
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>
>
> *
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Ben Charvet, PharmD
Staff Pharmacist
Parrish Medical center
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| Subject: | Re: Continental Teledyne Rant |
Well, I know its too late now, but you could just print the pages in
question off the pdf file that Don Emch posted last week:
Ben
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/a_65_overhaul_manual_193.pdf
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On 2/23/2012 2:23 PM, Michael Perez wrote:
> So, feeling that a new, updated 2011 version of the A-65/75
> Continental engine overhaul manual would be best, I went right to the
> source to check one out. On the website, the manual, (X30008,) is
> described as being 78 pages and in a three ring binder. I like the 3
> ringed idea so that I could pop out the pages I needed for the work I
> would be doing that day, lay the pages out on the counter, and not
> have to touch them. (For $80.00, I would like to keep them clean.)
>
> A few days ago, the manual arrived. Noticing that the package was only
> about 3/4 of an inch thick, I knew it was no three ring binder. Upon
> opening, I saw a spiral wound manual. (so much for taking out the
> pages.) Flipping to the back, I see page number 68. I was expecting
> to see 78, as advertised. Doing some quick math, it turns out that if
> I count EVERY FACE OF EVERY PAGE the manual is made of, I get 78
> pages. This includes the cover, inside cover, index pages ,inside back
> cover and outside back cover. Oh...and...I also included the page(s)
> marked "This page left blank intentionally." I don't even think
> this/these pages even had a page number of any sort.
>
> Anyhoo, I'm not pleased. So far Continental has not returned my
> inquiry email.
>
> Rant over...as you were.
>
> Michael Perez
> Karetaker Aero
> www.karetakeraero.com
>
> *
>
>
> *
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Ben Charvet, PharmD
Staff Pharmacist
Parrish Medical center
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| Subject: | Re: Continental Teledyne Rant |
I understand your frustration Michael, especially when it was $80.
However, I consider us all fortunate to have ANY support whatsoever
from a manufacturer that developed and sold these engines about 80 years
ago. After nearly a century, that in itself is impressive, especially
considering the poor state of our legal system and the liability
involved for the manufacturer. Continental certainly stands to make no
profit from anything related to these engines, however they do create
some new liability by printing these manuals. The people who did profit
from the manufacture of these engines are mostly dead if not all dead.
>From a purely business standpoint, it makes no sense to support these
engines at all. They probably only do so because there are some airplane
loving guys at Continental (they sure aren't there for the profits)! A
strict businessman would've kicked us to the curb long ago.
I'm not
sure I can think of a manufacturer of any product who supports something
they made 80 years ago. I'm sure they exist, but it is by far the
exception, not the rule.
Just my $.02. :)
Steve Ruse
Norman, OK
On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 14:32:43 -0500, Ben Charvet wrote:
> Well, I
know its too late now, but you could just print the pages in question
off the pdf file that Don Emch posted last week:
>
> Ben
>
>
Attachments:
>
>
http://forums.matronics.com//files/a_65_overhaul_manual_193.pdf [2]
>
>
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>
> On 2/23/2012 2:23 PM, Michael Perez wrote:
>
>> So, feeling
that a new, updated 2011 version of the A-65/75 Continental engine
overhaul manual would be best, I went right to the source to check one
out. On the website, the manual, (X30008,) is described as being 78
pages and in a three ring binder. I like the 3 ringed idea so that I
could pop out the pages I needed for the work I would be doing that day,
lay the pages out on the counter, and not have to touch them. (For
$80.00, I would like to keep them clean.)
>>
>> A few days ago, the
manual arrived. Noticing that the package was only about 3/4 of an inch
thick, I knew it was no three ring binder. Upon opening, I saw a spiral
wound manual. (so much for taking out the pages.) Flipping to the back,
I see page number 68. I was expecting to see 78, as advertised. Doing
some quick math, it turns out that if I count EVERY FACE OF EVERY PAGE
the manual is made of, I get 78 pages. This includes the cover, inside
cover, index pages ,inside back cover and outside back cover.
Oh...and...I also included the page(s) marked "This page left blank
intentionally." I don't even think this/these pages even had a page
number of any sort.
>>
>> Anyhoo, I'm not pleased. So far Continental
has not returned my inquiry email.
>>
>> Rant over...as you were.
>>
>> Michael Perez
>> Karetaker Aero
>> www.karetakeraero.com [1]
>
> --
> Ben Charvet, PharmD
> Staff Pharmacist
> Parrish Medical center
>
>
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[2]
http://forums.matronics.com//files/a_65_overhaul_manual_193.pdf
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| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol accesories |
It'll never get off the ground, Ben.
BC
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| Subject: | Progress bragging! If you call it progress? |
Last weekend I went up to Iowa to visit the rest of my family in Boone. My dad
and I made our down to the "Woodsmith Store" In Des Moines where I bought some
5/4 rough cut(6") Douglas fir. It cost $25.00 for a five foot length. I cut it
and half and started my center section. My dad, who has no interest in aviation
helped me use his planer and jointer to get the lumber to spec. After seeing
the beauty of the wood after the first pass through the planer I will no doubt
buy the remaining spars and longerons from this store. And best of all they
come in 16 ft lengths at no charge for the "lengthy" boards. Here are some
photos. The ribs are not done and I know they do not "match" but I am not sure
if I am going to put the reinforced ribs on the center section as I plan on webbing
them the plywood anyway.
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flight.
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| Subject: | Progress bragging! If you call it progress? |
Kyle,
Congrats on finding a local alternative! I, too, used DF spar material, with
overall satisfaction. My only suggestion is to be very selective, and choose
boards that all have similar (good) grain pattern. I was not so selective,
and, though all my boards were within AC43.13 spec's, one was definitely of
lesser quality...that one later warped. Best wishes...
Gary from Cool
NX308MB
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kyle85
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 2:41 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Progress bragging! If you call it progress?
Last weekend I went up to Iowa to visit the rest of my family in Boone. My
dad and I made our down to the "Woodsmith Store" In Des Moines where I
bought some 5/4 rough cut(6") Douglas fir. It cost $25.00 for a five foot
length. I cut it and half and started my center section. My dad, who has no
interest in aviation helped me use his planer and jointer to get the lumber
to spec. After seeing the beauty of the wood after the first pass through
the planer I will no doubt buy the remaining spars and longerons from this
store. And best of all they come in 16 ft lengths at no charge for the
"lengthy" boards. Here are some photos. The ribs are not done and I know
they do not "match" but I am not sure if I am going to put the reinforced
ribs on the center section as I plan on webbing them the plywood anyway.
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the flight.
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| Subject: | Progress bragging! If you call it progress? |
Kyle I've purchased wood from the same store, good wood, very expensive.
Swing by Lowe's next time you are in town they have a pretty good selection
of Douglas fir, although just 3/4".
Jack Textor
DSM
NX1929T
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kyle85
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 4:41 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Progress bragging! If you call it progress?
Last weekend I went up to Iowa to visit the rest of my family in Boone. My
dad and I made our down to the "Woodsmith Store" In Des Moines where I
bought some 5/4 rough cut(6") Douglas fir. It cost $25.00 for a five foot
length. I cut it and half and started my center section. My dad, who has no
interest in aviation helped me use his planer and jointer to get the lumber
to spec. After seeing the beauty of the wood after the first pass through
the planer I will no doubt buy the remaining spars and longerons from this
store. And best of all they come in 16 ft lengths at no charge for the
"lengthy" boards. Here are some photos. The ribs are not done and I know
they do not "match" but I am not sure if I am going to put the reinforced
ribs on the center section as I plan on webbing them the plywood anyway.
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the flight.
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| Subject: | Nice one Mr. Textor |
Hey Jack,
Nice picture on AVWEB this morning!
Greg Cardinal
Minneapolis
http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/potw/PictureOfTheWeek_206219-1.html
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| Subject: | Re: Nice one Mr. Textor |
Heck, yeah! You go, Jack!
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Kevin "Axel" Purtee
NX899KP
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| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol Accessories |
Phew! For a minute there I thought you where
in Australia.
Clif
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> Some day I'll learn how to not send upside down pictures off the stupid
> smart-phone
>
> Ben
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| Subject: | Re: Nice one Mr. Textor |
Hubba Hubba... Dooba Dooba!
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Mark Chouinard
Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage
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| Subject: | Throttle Linkage |
Jack, if you haven't already fabricated your throttle linkage
setup and you're still fishing for ideas, there are some pictures
of the setup that Ernie Moreno's Piet has, on my website. His
is set up with no cables at all... all rods, bellcranks, and
solid connections. Not advocating for that, just saying it
may provide an idea or two. Not everyone will agree with the
final link between the bellcrank on the firewall and the carb
butterfly lever because it is not a straight rod; it has an offset
bent into it. I can understand the need to avoid that in control
linkages where you can fail a member by applying enough force
to kink it at the bend, but I can't imagine ever developing
that much force trying to open or close a carb butterfly.
Anyway, if you go to http://www.flysquirrel.net/piets/piets.html
and scroll down to the bottom, there's a link to the firewall
forward pictures and one of them shows the throttle linkage. Go
to the bottom of that page and there's a link to the cockpit pix
and you'll see a couple that show how Ernie's is set up.
Oscar Zuniga
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
Flying Squirrel N2069Z "Rocket"
Medford, OR
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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