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1. 03:43 AM - Re: Thanks for all the encouragement boys, it's working!! (helspersew@aol.com)
2. 04:02 AM - Re: Gear Question (C N Campbell)
3. 08:12 AM - waterproofing hinges etc. (Timothy Willis)
4. 11:07 AM - the small Continentals (Oscar Zuniga)
5. 01:15 PM - Re: Thanks for all the encouragement boys, it's working!! (Dan Yocum)
6. 01:15 PM - Re: Thanks for all the encouragement boys, it's working!! (Dan Yocum)
7. 01:32 PM - New Carb (bender)
8. 03:06 PM - Re: Engine Push Rod Length (Gene Rambo)
9. 04:30 PM - Re: New Carb (helspersew@aol.com)
10. 05:58 PM - Re: the small Continentals (Ryan Mueller)
11. 06:19 PM - Re: New Carb (bender)
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| Subject: | Re: Thanks for all the encouragement boys, it's working!! |
Douwe,
Can't wait to see her. This airplane I am sure will be one of the most beau
tiful and unique ever to grace the skies over Brodhead. I for one will grea
tly appreciate seeing it.
Dan Helsper
Purear, TN
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From: Douwe Blumberg <douweblumberg@earthlink.net>
Sent: Sat, Feb 25, 2012 7:58 pm
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Thanks for all the encouragement boys, it's workin
g!!
nk.net>
Thanks all for your pics and stories. I especially appreciated Dan's
ersonalized video!!
Well, it has all helped light the fire under me for the big final push. go
t the
ngine pretty much hooked up and once I get the pesky oil pressure hardware
in
nd hooked up, and some prop bolts I can do an engine run!!
Just want to run it while the fuse is bare so it's easy to fix any leaks or
iring mistakes.
I anticipate being ready to run it within three weeks.
Then it's basically finishing all my little fixes and mods on the fuse, cov
er
he fuse and tail feathers, paint it and bolt her together!!
I'm really going to aim for a first flight early summer.
Douwe
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| Subject: | Re: Gear Question |
Gear QuestionJack, all the drawings I have seen use a longer bolt. Not
being a metalurgist I can't help with the pin bit. You're probably
going to cover the whole thing up with some sort of cover so why the
reluctance with using the longer bolt? That would be so much simpler.
C
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From: Jack
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 7:36 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Gear Question
Hello all hope you can help with a question. If you look at the
attached picture you will see the bolt holding my gear spring assembly
together is resting on the bolt head and nut. Should I use a longer
bolt (rather not) so the stress is on the bolt shaft? Or fashion a pin
with cotter keys on each end? If I do that should it be 4130 rod? I
tried to cut the head off an AN bolt tonight and they are hard! If I do
the pin, should I harden after cutting and drilling? Could it be soft
steel? So many questions, thanks for your expertise!
Jack Textor
DSM
NX1929T
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| Subject: | waterproofing hinges etc. |
Thanks for replies, esp. Hans. I will varnish all the screwholes as
described, and put drain holes in the lower edges, corners, etc. And
I will get a custom cockpit cover, even for my hangared plane. (I
don't like scorpions.) I'll also look into alternative hinges for the
flop. And I know not to fly in rain, and to get elsewhere or stuff
under cover if it looks like rain. All good thoughts, thanks.
I noticed at Brodhead in years back that some of you not only had
custom canvas cockpit covers, but that virtually all of you had a
simple plastic tarp over the wing as well. There was either heavy dew
or rain drops on all of the top covers. Those good procedures still
left the ailerons out in the weather. But 80 years of experience no
doubt indicate that proper preparation works.
"Be Prepared" goes beyond the Boy Scouts. In 2011 here we had the
worst drought in our history, but not long before our stretch of under
5 inches of rain in 15 months, we had over 15 inches of rain in 24
hours. Nothing was dry for a week or more. BTW drought is expected
here again in 2012.
Thanks, Tim in central TX
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| Subject: | the small Continentals |
Jack wrote:
>when I rebuilt my A65 I was somewhat astonished at the level
>of sophistication the little engine has.
Right you are, Jack. I really love these small Continentals
and they continue to serve experimenters (and certified aircraft
manufacturers as well, in the O200), long after their designers
could have dreamed that they would.
As I wrote in my article about them in Contact! magazine, they
are reliable, simple, and straightforward engines but they
do have their quirks and weaknesses. I'm no expert on engines
in general, but I would have to agree with what one writer
said about the earliest of the genre, the A45, when he stated
that it may be one of the simplest 4-stroke engines ever devised.
Oscar Zuniga
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
Flying Squirrel N2069Z "Rocket"
Medford, OR
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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| Subject: | Re: Thanks for all the encouragement boys, it's working!! |
Hey Douwe, my motivation was completely selfish - I want a ride in your
plane when it's done!
Well, that and to fly "formation" with you around Brodhead, too. I
reckon you'll be the only one that can keep up with me with the mighty
C-90 you'll have.
:-D
Cheers!
Dan
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| Subject: | Re: Thanks for all the encouragement boys, it's working!! |
Hey Douwe, my motivation was completely selfish - I want a ride in your
plane when it's done!
Well, that and to fly "formation" with you around Brodhead, too. I
reckon you'll be the only one that can keep up with me with the mighty
C-90 you'll have.
:-D
Cheers!
Dan
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So i found a new carb for my A.. i had a tillotson and was having a little trouble
stating it and getting it down to a good idle.
I found some info on new model Zenith carbs and starting looking for one of two
or three models.
I picked up a new in the box Zenith 14995.. it has a better idle circuit from
what i understand and better float.. there are 3 fuel ports..one on the back and
one on each side..and the linkage can be attached on either side.. comes with
nice linkage arms too..
only took three blade and it fired right up.. way rich at first but a simple adjustment
and it was purring at 600rpm .. i was seeing about 1900 at full throttle..
i think the carb was a good purchase.
http://youtu.be/jWCVSiBuPxg
did a little fabric work too..
jeff
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| Subject: | Engine Push Rod Length |
you are all right=2C of course=2C I spoke too quickly.
From: pietflyr@bellsouth.net
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Engine Push Rod Length
Sorry for piling on=2C Gene. I
responded before seeing how many people had already responded.
I must admit=2C when I rebuilt my A65 I was
somewhat astonished at the level of sophistication the little engine has.
Prior to assembling that engine=2C I would have assumed it had mechancial l
ifters
as well (it certainly has enough of that old =93Continental Clatter=94
to have solid lifters like a Volkswagon). I well remember checking all 8
valve lifter assemblies for proper leak down time before assembling my engi
ne.
Those =93Zero Lash=94 lifters are what allows such a wide range of
clearance between the valve stem and the rocker arm=2C and all that data ca
me
straight from the Continental overhaul manual.
You may have been thinking about the 65
Lycoming. I don=92t know if its lifters were solid or hydraulic=2C because
I=92ve never taken one of those apart.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake=2C Virginia
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack Philli
ps
Sent: Friday=2C February 24=2C 2012
11:15 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List:
Engine Push Rod Length
Wrong. The A65 most definitely does
have hydraulic lifters.
Jack
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owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gene Rambo
Sent: Friday=2C February 24=2C 2012
5:28 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List:
Engine Push Rod Length
Jack=2C if they are 65's they don't have hydraulic lifters=2C
they are mechanical=2C so your plan does not work.
Gene
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From: pietflyr@bellsouth.net
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Engine Push Rod Length
Michael=2C that expensive overhaul manual
you bought should have a Table of Limits in it. You=92ll find the
information you need there.
>From looking at mine=2C I find that the
pushrods (new) should have a length of 10.797=94 to
10.827=94. The serviceable limit length is 10.785=94
To determine if you need the oversize
pushrods=2C you will have to have the engine assembled=2C and measure the c
learance
between the valve stem and the rocker arm=2C with the hydraulic lifter full
y
deflated. The clearance is supposed to be between 0.030=94 and
0.110=94. If your clearance is more than 0.110=94 you will need
the longer pushrod.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake=2C Virginia
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Per
ez
Sent: Friday=2C February 24=2C 2012
1:13 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Engine
Push Rod Length
The engines I acquired have no log books. I see that
I can buy standard push rods and +.030" push rods. Any idea how I
can determine what length push rods I currently have? I see no specs. giv
en
in the manual.
Michael Perez
Karetaker Aero
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Way cool Jeff. Sounds really nice and smooth (better than mine). That Zenit
h carb, it is new?, or a newer version of an old carb?
That 1900 RPM static I think is very good. Mine is 1860.
Also, looks as though we may yet have another Black and Yellow German comin
g down the line?..... Gene Rambo, you better hurry or you will be #3.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
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From: bender <jfaith@solairusaviation.com>
Sent: Sun, Feb 26, 2012 3:33 pm
Subject: Pietenpol-List: New Carb
>
So i found a new carb for my A.. i had a tillotson and was having a little
rouble stating it and getting it down to a good idle.
found some info on new model Zenith carbs and starting looking for one of
two
r three models.
I picked up a new in the box Zenith 14995.. it has a better idle circuit f
rom
hat i understand and better float.. there are 3 fuel ports..one on the back
and
ne on each side..and the linkage can be attached on either side.. comes wit
h
ice linkage arms too..
only took three blade and it fired right up.. way rich at first but a simpl
e
djustment and it was purring at 600rpm .. i was seeing about 1900 at full
hrottle.. i think the carb was a good purchase.
http://youtu.be/jWCVSiBuPxg
did a little fabric work too..
jeff
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| Subject: | Re: the small Continentals |
To clarify, that would be the A-40. Chet Peek, author of the excellent
"The Pietenpol Story". He has also written a nice history of the A-40
entitled "Flying on 40 Horses". Like every one of his books, a good
read,
Ryan
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On Feb 26, 2012, at 11:11 AM, Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com> wrote:
> <snip>
>
> I'm no expert on engines
>
> in general, but I would have to agree with what one writer
>
> said about the earliest of the genre, the A45, when he stated
>
> that it may be one of the simplest 4-stroke engines ever devised.
>
>
> Oscar Zuniga
> Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
> Flying Squirrel N2069Z "Rocket"
> Medford, OR
> website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
>
>
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it is a new carb.. its made for industrial applications..
they have a replacement for the model a pn 13922 but i found this site..
http://clubs.hemmings.com/clubsites/durant/Tech/ZENITHcarinfo.htm
that explained some sizes.. and the model b ford garage site that showed sizes
of original zenith carbs..
the 14995 has a little bigger venturi but the bore where it mounts is the same
as the A carb.. same bolt holes too.
i found mine after a little searching on ebay.. but their is a site that has them
for sale... i'll dig it up
the new ones are lighter... aluminum..i think and after the easy start and adjustment
i had today i'm sold
I found mine for $175.... the other place i found had them for about 100 more
Dan my prop has less bite than yours.. 76-42 so maybe thats why i see more rpm..
And the color... its Charleston green.... really dark.. but not black ...its pretty
close to the engine green on an A and the tan is close to another model a
car color
I'm not gonna be blamed for stealing paint jobs
jeff
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