---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 02/27/12: 33 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:21 AM - Re: Engine Progress (kevinpurtee) 2. 07:54 AM - Re: Engine Progress (Michael Perez) 3. 08:38 AM - Radiator pressure (bender) 4. 08:48 AM - Re: Gear Question (Michael Groah) 5. 09:13 AM - Re: Gear Question (airlion) 6. 09:27 AM - Re: Radiator pressure (l.morlock) 7. 10:30 AM - Re: Radiator pressure (helspersew@aol.com) 8. 10:37 AM - Re: Radiator pressure (bender) 9. 10:42 AM - Re: Gear Question (899PM) 10. 10:51 AM - Sun N Fun Question (Don Emch) 11. 11:00 AM - Re: Gear Question (Catdesigns) 12. 11:19 AM - Re: Sun N Fun Question (SKIP GADD) 13. 11:33 AM - Re: New Carb (899PM) 14. 11:35 AM - Re: Sun N Fun Question (C N Campbell) 15. 11:38 AM - Re: Sun N Fun Question (Jim Ash) 16. 11:48 AM - Re: Sun N Fun Question (Don Emch) 17. 11:53 AM - Re: good to see folks STICKING with it!!!!!! (899PM) 18. 12:13 PM - My motivation (899PM) 19. 12:49 PM - Re: New Carb (bender) 20. 01:13 PM - Re: New Carb (899PM) 21. 01:14 PM - Re: Gear Question (Bill Church) 22. 02:02 PM - Re: Radiator pressure (Ben Charvet) 23. 03:12 PM - Re: Naked Piet pics 2000 vintage (AircamperN11MS) 24. 03:36 PM - Re: Sun N Fun Question (SKIP GADD) 25. 04:08 PM - Re: Sun N Fun Question (airlion) 26. 04:13 PM - Various parts questions (jimbir) 27. 06:05 PM - Re: Sun N Fun Question (Dick N) 28. 06:09 PM - Re: Various parts questions (Dick N) 29. 06:18 PM - Re: Sun N Fun Question (SKIP GADD) 30. 07:11 PM - (Douwe Blumberg) 31. 08:32 PM - Floor Bracing on extended fuselage (mhough) 32. 09:42 PM - Re: the small Continentals (taildrags) 33. 09:49 PM - Re: My motivation (aerocarjake) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:21:05 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Engine Progress From: "kevinpurtee" Dave - Like your comment, "It sat there and ran, all the trouble was forgotten." It's amazing how frustrating this stuff can be, followed immediately by profound satisfaction when it finally comes together. do not archive -------- Kevin "Axel" Purtee NX899KP Austin/Georgetown, TX Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=367357#367357 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:54:15 AM PST US From: Michael Perez Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Engine Progress My fortune with both of these engines has been great so far, I hope that wi ll continue through the processes I have to rely on others to do.- I like to think I am in no hurry, but if things start to get dragged out...well.. .-- Michael Perez =0AKaretaker Aero =0Awww.karetakeraero.com ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:38:18 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Radiator pressure From: "bender" Do you model A guys use a pressure radiator cap ?? i know the cars didn't i had an old 16lb cap laying around and put it on the piet to run it and i'm getting quite a bit of pressure i guess... its blowing over some water at high rpm.. I'm concerned that there could be a head gasket problem.. the oil is ok.. don't see anything in the cylinders.. its not hot but its pushing a little water out.. just ran it again for a while.. never saw more than 165 deg and its holding pressure still in the hangar.. jeff Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=367364#367364 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:48:01 AM PST US From: Michael Groah Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Gear Question How about adding a small sleeve that will space the bolt away?- see attac hed drawing for rough idea.- =0A=0A=0AMike Groah=0A=0A=0A=0A_____________ ___________________=0A From: Jack =0ATo: pietenpol-list@m atronics.com =0ASent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 4:36 PM=0ASubject: Pieten pol-List: Gear Question=0A =0A=0AGear Question =0AHelloallhope you can help with a question.- If you look at the attached picture you will see the b olt holding my gear spring assembly together is resting on the bolt head an d nut.- Should I use a longer bolt (rather not) so the stress is on the b olt shaft? Or fashion a pin with cotter keys on each end?- If I do that s hould it be 4130 rod?- I tried to cut the head off an AN bolt tonight and they are hard!- If I do the pin, should I harden after cutting and drill ing?-Could it be soft steel?-So many questions, thanks for your experti se!=0AJack Textor=0ADSM=0ANX1929T=0A<<...>> ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:13:16 AM PST US From: airlion Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Gear Question Why not leave it as is and let the bolt head be more support. Just my 2 cents worth--as stupid as it sounds. Gardiner ________________________________ From: Michael Groah Sent: Mon, February 27, 2012 11:47:20 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Gear Question How about adding a small sleeve that will space the bolt away? see attached drawing for rough idea. Mike Groah ________________________________ From: Jack Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 4:36 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Gear Question Gear Question Helloallhope you can help with a question. If you look at the attached picture you will see the bolt holding my gear spring assembly together is resting on the bolt head and nut. Should I use a longer bolt (rather not) so the stress is on the bolt shaft? Or fashion a pin with cotter keys on each end? If I do that should it be 4130 rod? I tried to cut the head off an AN bolt tonight and they are hard! If I do the pin, should I harden after cutting and drilling? Could it be soft steel? So many questions, thanks for your expertise! Jack Textor DSM NX1929T <<...>> ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:27:06 AM PST US From: "l.morlock" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Radiator pressure I don't use a pressurized cap, same as the cars, and I don't recall seeing anyone use one. Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: "bender" Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 11:37 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Radiator pressure > > > Do you model A guys use a pressure radiator cap ?? > i know the cars didn't > i had an old 16lb cap laying around and put it on the piet to run it and > i'm getting quite a bit of pressure i guess... its blowing over some water > at high rpm.. > I'm concerned that there could be a head gasket problem.. the oil is ok.. > don't see anything in the cylinders.. its not hot but its pushing a little > water out.. > > just ran it again for a while.. never saw more than 165 deg > and its holding pressure still in the hangar.. > > jeff > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=367364#367364 > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:30:30 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Radiator pressure From: helspersew@aol.com Jeff, I have an overflow, outlet in the neck of the radiator. So far I always get some blowing over of some water at full power. I think it is a function of the water pump throwing the water up there. I restricted the fitting down real small and that helped. I need to also create some kind of labyrinth to lesson the amount. Dan Helsper Puryear, TN -----Original Message----- From: bender Sent: Mon, Feb 27, 2012 10:38 am Subject: Pietenpol-List: Radiator pressure > Do you model A guys use a pressure radiator cap ?? know the cars didn't had an old 16lb cap laying around and put it on the piet to run it and i'm etting quite a bit of pressure i guess... its blowing over some water at hi gh pm.. 'm concerned that there could be a head gasket problem.. the oil is ok.. do n't ee anything in the cylinders.. its not hot but its pushing a little water o ut.. just ran it again for a while.. never saw more than 165 deg nd its holding pressure still in the hangar.. jeff ead this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=367364#367364 -= - The Pietenpol-List Email Forum - -= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse -= the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription, -= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, -= Photoshare, and much much more: - -= --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List - -======================== -= - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - -= Same great content also available via the Web Forums! - -= --> http://forums.matronics.com - -======================== -= - List Contribution Web Site - -= Thank you for your generous support! -= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. -= --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution -======================== ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:37:20 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Radiator pressure From: "bender" labyrinth ?? dang it Dan... now i got to get a dictionary out.. i was just trying to stop the water jeff do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=367373#367373 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 10:42:17 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Gear Question From: "899PM" What I did. -------- PAPA MIKE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=367374#367374 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_4157_223.jpg ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 10:51:56 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Sun N Fun Question From: "Don Emch" I have never been to Sun N Fun. I think I may be down in that area for work through Friday the 24th. Sun N Fun doesn't actually start until the 27th. Do any of the Sun n Fun regulars on here know if there is much going on or any arrivals on the Friday before. Thought I might drop by there if there was. Don Emch NX899DE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=367377#367377 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 11:00:38 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Gear Question From: "Catdesigns" Jack Is the hole in the washer the size of the smaller tubing in the picture? If so, the step formed by the larger diameter tubing above the washer and the thickness of the washer is all that is needed to resists the bending of the washer. If not, then can you remake the washer to have a smaller diameter hole? I have looked at your landing gear pictures on your website but I still cant figure what end we are looking at. I figure it must be the end that slides in the slot because of the bolt, but then why is it welded to the smaller diameter tubing? Doesnt the collar need to slide on the small tube? If its the other end that does not slide, all the plans I have seen for this gear shows the washed welded to the tube and then why the bolt? Chris Do not archive -------- Chris Sacramento, CA WestCoastPiet.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=367378#367378 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 11:19:15 AM PST US From: SKIP GADD Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sun N Fun Question Don, My calender says Friday is the 23rd. Cinda and I plan to arrive shortly after noon Friday the 23. I think Dick N also plans to get there then. If you are in the area call my cell, if you don't still have it let me know. We will just be hanging out and setting up the wood shop. There will not be many venders around then and the 4 main vender buildings will be closed. There will be some planes there. Skip -----Original Message----- >From: Don Emch >Sent: Feb 27, 2012 1:51 PM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Pietenpol-List: Sun N Fun Question > > >I have never been to Sun N Fun. I think I may be down in that area for work through Friday the 24th. Sun N Fun doesn't actually start until the 27th. Do any of the Sun n Fun regulars on here know if there is much going on or any arrivals on the Friday before. Thought I might drop by there if there was. > >Don Emch >NX899DE > > >Read this topic online here: > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=367377#367377 > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 11:33:57 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: New Carb From: "899PM" Jeff, What intake manifold are you running? Carb heat on full time? -------- PAPA MIKE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=367380#367380 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 11:35:33 AM PST US From: "C N Campbell" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sun N Fun Question Don, my wife and I used to drive around with a 5th wheel trailer behind us. We went to SNF once about a week in advance. There wasn't much flying but we both volunteered to work and there was plenty to do. I spent most of the week putting up plastic fence between different parts of the SNF. On the day of the start when all the planes started coming in they volunteered me to be a part of the ground traffic control. Very interesting. People want to park in a particular place and they don't believe you when they are told there's no more room in that area -- they just gotta drive down there and find out for themselves. I got a ride in the old Ford Trimotor for my efforts. Do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Emch" Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 1:51 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Sun N Fun Question > > I have never been to Sun N Fun. I think I may be down in that area for > work through Friday the 24th. Sun N Fun doesn't actually start until the > 27th. Do any of the Sun n Fun regulars on here know if there is much > going on or any arrivals on the Friday before. Thought I might drop by > there if there was. > > Don Emch > NX899DE > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=367377#367377 > > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 11:38:57 AM PST US From: Jim Ash Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sun N Fun Question Have you guys got any Piet stuff planned for the shop this year? -----Original Message----- >From: SKIP GADD >Sent: Feb 27, 2012 2:18 PM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sun N Fun Question > > >Don, >My calender says Friday is the 23rd. Cinda and I plan to arrive shortly after noon Friday the 23. I think Dick N also plans to get there then. If you are in the area call my cell, if you don't still have it let me know. We will just be hanging out and setting up the wood shop. There will not be many venders around then and the 4 main vender buildings will be closed. There will be some planes there. >Skip > >-----Original Message----- >>From: Don Emch >>Sent: Feb 27, 2012 1:51 PM >>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >>Subject: Pietenpol-List: Sun N Fun Question >> >> >>I have never been to Sun N Fun. I think I may be down in that area for work through Friday the 24th. Sun N Fun doesn't actually start until the 27th. Do any of the Sun n Fun regulars on here know if there is much going on or any arrivals on the Friday before. Thought I might drop by there if there was. >> >>Don Emch >>NX899DE >> >> >> >> >>Read this topic online here: >> >>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=367377#367377 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 11:48:38 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Sun N Fun Question From: "Don Emch" Thanks Skip... I'd say you have the correct calendar. Don't know what I was looking at. I just might give you a ring. Not sure just yet exactly what my schedule will be. Really wishing I had to be there the following week.... [Rolling Eyes] Don Emch NX899DE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=367383#367383 ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 11:53:27 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: good to see folks STICKING with it!!!!!! From: "899PM" Mike, I have been at it for just over 12 years now. Seems like yesterday when I got the plans from Don Pietenpol. I went into the man cave last weekend Friday morning and came out Sunday night, with the result being that I am finally assembling wings from ribs made in 1998. -------- PAPA MIKE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=367385#367385 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_4176_459.jpg ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 12:13:02 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: My motivation From: "899PM" Here is my motivation for finishing the piet. I designed and built these about 10 years ago specifically for the Piet. They will be finished with herringbone mahogany planking. -------- PAPA MIKE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=367387#367387 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_2781_201.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_2780_702.jpg ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 12:49:46 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: New Carb From: "bender" its an A intake... with a wedge instead of cutting it.. I keep my eyes open for a B intake but no luck yet. I do have full time heat..a muff on the front pipe http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l593/jfaithbass/IMG_20120208_110304.jpg jeff Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=367388#367388 ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 01:13:52 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: New Carb From: "899PM" OK, I may try a stock "A" manifold this spring. I have a log type with the "B" carb and can't get an idle below 700rpm without it quitting. -------- PAPA MIKE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=367389#367389 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_2809_170.jpg ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 01:14:17 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Gear Question From: "Bill Church" Jack, I would say that the arrangement in your photo is not ideal. I'm not crazy about the idea of that washer acting on the nut and the head of the bolt. Best not to impose bending loads on the bolt. Would be better to use a longer bolt, like you say, but what would prevent the bolt from sliding over to one end or the other?. I much prefer the arrangement shown in Mike's photo, with a sleeve, and hole located away from the washer. That way the bolt is only loaded in shear. The two designs (Bingelis and Buckeye) mentioned in this old thread utilize a similar method, with a sleeve. http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=329387#329387 Bill C. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=367390#367390 ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 02:02:37 PM PST US From: Ben Charvet Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Radiator pressure I had the same problem with my Model A pickup. I took it by to show one our local Model A experts, and he told me I was overfilling the radiator. The water pump really throws a lot of water up into the neck of the radiator, and the normal level is a lot lower than you may think. I was having similar temps...never went above 160. Ben On 2/27/2012 11:37 AM, bender wrote: > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "bender" > > Do you model A guys use a pressure radiator cap ?? > i know the cars didn't > i had an old 16lb cap laying around and put it on the piet to run it and i'm getting quite a bit of pressure i guess... its blowing over some water at high rpm.. > I'm concerned that there could be a head gasket problem.. the oil is ok.. don't see anything in the cylinders.. its not hot but its pushing a little water out.. > > just ran it again for a while.. never saw more than 165 deg > and its holding pressure still in the hangar.. > > jeff > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=367364#367364 > > -- Ben Charvet, PharmD Staff Pharmacist Parrish Medical center ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 03:12:46 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Naked Piet pics 2000 vintage From: "AircamperN11MS" Terry, Please email me at (pietman@qnet.com) I will then reply to you with all the pics to took this morning. Your fuse looks great. Regards, -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Brodhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=367397#367397 ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 03:36:05 PM PST US From: SKIP GADD Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sun N Fun Question Hi Jim, Yes, two guys from SC are bringing materials for two Piet fuselages. We may be a little busy. Skip -----Original Message----- >From: Jim Ash >Sent: Feb 27, 2012 2:37 PM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sun N Fun Question > > >Have you guys got any Piet stuff planned for the shop this year? > >-----Original Message----- >>From: SKIP GADD >>Sent: Feb 27, 2012 2:18 PM >>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >>Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sun N Fun Question >> >> >>Don, >>My calender says Friday is the 23rd. Cinda and I plan to arrive shortly after noon Friday the 23. I think Dick N also plans to get there then. If you are in the area call my cell, if you don't still have it let me know. We will just be hanging out and setting up the wood shop. There will not be many venders around then and the 4 main vender buildings will be closed. There will be some planes there. >>Skip >> >>-----Original Message----- >>>From: Don Emch >>>Sent: Feb 27, 2012 1:51 PM >>>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >>>Subject: Pietenpol-List: Sun N Fun Question >>> >>> >>>I have never been to Sun N Fun. I think I may be down in that area for work through Friday the 24th. Sun N Fun doesn't actually start until the 27th. Do any of the Sun n Fun regulars on here know if there is much going on or any arrivals on the Friday before. Thought I might drop by there if there was. >>> >>>Don Emch >>>NX899DE >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>Read this topic online here: >>> >>>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=367377#367377 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 04:08:19 PM PST US From: airlion Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sun N Fun Question I don't think I will make it to sun n fun this year. Ya'll have fun. Gardiner ----- Original Message ---- From: Don Emch Sent: Mon, February 27, 2012 1:51:38 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Sun N Fun Question I have never been to Sun N Fun. I think I may be down in that area for work through Friday the 24th. Sun N Fun doesn't actually start until the 27th. Do any of the Sun n Fun regulars on here know if there is much going on or any arrivals on the Friday before. Thought I might drop by there if there was. Don Emch NX899DE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=367377#367377 ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 04:13:10 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Various parts questions From: "jimbir" We are building a Piet for static display. It has a straight (Jenny style) axle. We're wondering if any one could email me some photos showing the attachment of the gear, axle and shock cords along with drawings of the parts needed. we would like to know how many feet of shock cord we need to buy. We are in need of a carb, magneto, and an intake manifold for a Model A engine. [u]None of these parts need to be serviceable[/u]. If you have any, please email me your price. My email address is: jimbir@yahoo.com We have also rebuilt a 1917 Curtiss JN4 and have attached photos of the gear on it for comparison to what might be on found a Piet. -------- Thanks, Jim Birke Niagara Frontier Vintage Aircraft Group Assisting The Niagara Aerospace Museum Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=367403#367403 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/top_view_otb_copy_624.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/top_view_inb_copy_213.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/bottom_view_copy_210.jpg ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 06:05:43 PM PST US From: "Dick N" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sun N Fun Question We have a Busy shop planned this year. P.F. Beck has 2 friends who want to build fuselages and I will bring cap strip to build wing ribs. That all should keep us all moving pretty well. Also I'm getting ready to leave within the next week or so and I'll be there about a week early. It's kind of nice to get there early and watch everything come together. my cell ph #is 612-805-1742 for anyone coming looking for info or e mail me or Skip. Dick N. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Ash" Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 1:37 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sun N Fun Question > > Have you guys got any Piet stuff planned for the shop this year? > > -----Original Message----- >>From: SKIP GADD >>Sent: Feb 27, 2012 2:18 PM >>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >>Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sun N Fun Question >> >> >>Don, >>My calender says Friday is the 23rd. Cinda and I plan to arrive shortly >>after noon Friday the 23. I think Dick N also plans to get there then. If >>you are in the area call my cell, if you don't still have it let me know. >>We will just be hanging out and setting up the wood shop. There will not >>be many venders around then and the 4 main vender buildings will be >>closed. There will be some planes there. >>Skip >> >>-----Original Message----- >>>From: Don Emch >>>Sent: Feb 27, 2012 1:51 PM >>>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >>>Subject: Pietenpol-List: Sun N Fun Question >>> >>> >>>I have never been to Sun N Fun. I think I may be down in that area for >>>work through Friday the 24th. Sun N Fun doesn't actually start until the >>>27th. Do any of the Sun n Fun regulars on here know if there is much >>>going on or any arrivals on the Friday before. Thought I might drop by >>>there if there was. >>> >>>Don Emch >>>NX899DE >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>Read this topic online here: >>> >>>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=367377#367377 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 06:09:55 PM PST US From: "Dick N" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Various parts questions Jim 25 ft. will cover it and give you a tail to hang onto at the end. Also you can probably find most of that stuff you need at the parts mart at SNF. Dick N. ----- Original Message ----- From: "jimbir" Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 6:12 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Various parts questions > > We are building a Piet for static display. It has a straight (Jenny style) > axle. We're wondering if any one could email me some photos showing the > attachment of the gear, axle and shock cords along with drawings of the > parts needed. we would like to know how many feet of shock cord we need to > buy. > > We are in need of a carb, magneto, and an intake manifold for a Model A > engine. [u]None of these parts need to be serviceable[/u]. If you have > any, please email me your price. > > My email address is: jimbir@yahoo.com > > We have also rebuilt a 1917 Curtiss JN4 and have attached photos of the > gear on it for comparison to what might be on found a Piet. > > -------- > Thanks, Jim Birke > Niagara Frontier Vintage > Aircraft Group Assisting The > Niagara Aerospace Museum > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=367403#367403 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/top_view_otb_copy_624.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/top_view_inb_copy_213.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/bottom_view_copy_210.jpg > > > ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 06:18:43 PM PST US From: SKIP GADD Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sun N Fun Question I understand gardiner, we will miss seeing you at the wood shop. Skip -----Original Message----- >From: airlion >Sent: Feb 27, 2012 7:07 PM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sun N Fun Question > > >I don't think I will make it to sun n fun this year. Ya'll have fun. Gardiner > > >----- Original Message ---- >From: Don Emch >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Sent: Mon, February 27, 2012 1:51:38 PM >Subject: Pietenpol-List: Sun N Fun Question > > >I have never been to Sun N Fun. I think I may be down in that area for work >through Friday the 24th. Sun N Fun doesn't actually start until the 27th. Do >any of the Sun n Fun regulars on here know if there is much going on or any >arrivals on the Friday before. Thought I might drop by there if there was. > >Don Emch >NX899DE > > >Read this topic online here: > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=367377#367377 > > ________________________________ Message 30 ____________________________________ Time: 07:11:58 PM PST US From: Douwe Blumberg I appreciate your vote of confidence Dan H. "Re-Piet" will be a cool plane, but my eye for detail won't be in the league of yours or some of you other guys. She outta be pretty solid and useful though and will have a unique thirties, "art-deco" feel. Douwe ________________________________ Message 31 ____________________________________ Time: 08:32:57 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Floor Bracing on extended fuselage From: "mhough" Hello everybody, First time here. I am building the extended fuselage version of the Piet and am confused about where to place the floor bracing. The original plans have the side bracing and struts starting at 10" back. The extended version starts at 12" back. The orignial plans start the floor bracing with white ash 10" back. I can not find where the floor bracing should be on the extended version. Seems to me it should be at the 12" mark like the side bracing and struts. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=367413#367413 ________________________________ Message 32 ____________________________________ Time: 09:42:38 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: the small Continentals From: "taildrags" Whoops! Right you are, Ryan... it's the A40, not A45. Wonderfully simple engine; you can read a bit more about it here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continental_A-40 -OZ Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=367416#367416 ________________________________ Message 33 ____________________________________ Time: 09:49:57 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: My motivation From: "aerocarjake" Nice.... 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