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1. 04:04 AM - Re: Aluminum for cowl and forward deck? (Jack Phillips)
2. 04:09 AM - Re: Aluminum for cowl and forward deck? (Jerry Dotson)
3. 04:42 AM - Re: Aluminum for cowl and forward deck? (helspersew@aol.com)
4. 06:22 AM - Re: Aluminum for cowl and forward deck? (Jim Ash)
5. 08:58 AM - How should I..... (Kyle85)
6. 10:11 AM - center section storage lid hinge-to-front spar (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP])
7. 10:23 AM - In Carrollton for a couple days...today.... (Jim Markle)
8. 11:14 AM - Re: Aluminum for cowl and forward deck? (Ray Krause)
9. 11:19 AM - Re: In Carrollton for a couple days...today.... (Barry Davis)
10. 11:33 AM - Re: In Carrollton for a couple days...today.... (Jim Markle)
11. 12:40 PM - Re: center section storage lid hinge-to-front spar (Kyle85)
12. 01:31 PM - Re: In Carrollton for a couple days...today.... (Sutton, Mark)
13. 01:53 PM - Re: center section storage lid hinge-to-front spar (C N Campbell)
14. 01:56 PM - Re: In Carrollton for a couple days...today.... (Barry Davis)
15. 02:05 PM - Re: center section storage lid hinge-to-front spar (Bill Church)
16. 02:52 PM - Re: In Carrollton for a couple days...today.... (airlion)
17. 03:29 PM - Sport Aviation - Mark's Struts (Gboothe5)
18. 03:57 PM - My continental twirling muscle is sore. (Andrew Eldredge)
19. 05:34 PM - Re: Aluminum for cowl and forward deck? (Jim Boyer)
20. 05:43 PM - (airlion)
21. 05:59 PM - Re: My continental twirling muscle is sore. (Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB)
22. 06:39 PM - Re: No Title (Bill Church)
23. 07:53 PM - Re: My continental twirling muscle is sore. (Steve)
24. 07:56 PM - Re: In Carrollton for a couple days...today.... (tools)
25. 07:56 PM - Re: Re: No Title (Ryan Mueller)
26. 07:59 PM - Re: Re: No Title (Ryan Mueller)
27. 08:03 PM - Re: Sport Aviation - Mark's Struts (K5YAC)
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| Subject: | Aluminum for cowl and forward deck? |
I used the same as Jim. 0.025" 2024-T3
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Boyer
Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 10:45 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Aluminum for cowl and forward deck?
Hi Ray,
I used 2024 T3 0.025 for my cowlings and will also for the engine cowling.
Jim B.
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| Subject: | Re: Aluminum for cowl and forward deck? |
Ray I am using 2024 T6 0.032". Like Gary I used what I had. Does it work good?
Heck I don't know. When it comes to working sheet metal I am a poor excuse. I
have a friend that is all of 25 years old that is bailing me out. He is not having
a problem with it.
You hear older folks giving the young generation a bad time. This young man is
one I would be proud to call a son.
do not archive
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Jerry Dotson
59 Daniel Johnson Rd
Baker, FL 32531
Started building NX510JD July, 2009
now covering and painting
21" wheels
Lycoming O-235 C2C
Jay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44
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| Subject: | Re: Aluminum for cowl and forward deck? |
Ray,
I used .032 3003 for the front engine cowl pieces. Soft enough to make a fe
w bump-outs and bends I needed. Then I used .025 2024 from in front of the
the radiator back to just behind the front cabane struts. Then changed to
.032 2024 to surround both cockpits (stiff and tough for inadvertant abuse)
. 2024 is fine for simple curving, but compound curves need a softer alloy.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
-----Original Message-----
From: Ray Krause <raykrause@frontiernet.net>
Sent: Sun, Mar 4, 2012 9:15 pm
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Aluminum for cowl and forward deck?
et>
> Dear friends,
What type of aluminum have you folks been using for the cowl and forward
ecking from the pilot's seat to the cowl? I have some .025 6061 T6, but
t may be too stiff. Any softer sheeting being used? I need to od=redr som
e
lywood and thought I would include this in the order.
Thanks so much,
Ray Krause
ky Scout coming along.
>
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| Subject: | Re: Aluminum for cowl and forward deck? |
I would ask if you plan to shape any of these parts. If not, then what you've got
is probably ok. If you plan on forming it, I'd go with 3003. 6061 wouldn't
be my first choice for formability. ASS has a neat little summary chart in their
catalogs:
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/pdf/aluminumalloy.pdf
Note the 'Cold Workability' column. 1100 (pure Al), is the easiest to work, but
it's not real strong. 3003 is still easy to work (only a nudge more difficult
than 1100), but it's stronger.
Regardless if you're forming or not, when you're doing tight bends, watch your
bend radius, especially if you're using thicker sheet.
Jim Ash
-----Original Message-----
>From: Ray Krause <raykrause@frontiernet.net>
>Sent: Mar 4, 2012 10:14 PM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Aluminum for cowl and forward deck?
>
>
>> Dear friends,
>
>What type of aluminum have you folks been using for the cowl and forward
>decking from the pilot's seat to the cowl? I have some .025 6061 T6, but
>it may be too stiff. Any softer sheeting being used? I need to od=redr some
>plywood and thought I would include this in the order.
>
>Thanks so much,
>
>
>Ray Krause
>Sky Scout coming along.
>>
>> >
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| Subject: | How should I..... |
Friends,
My wing center section is going to be a storage compartment. Before I drill any
holes in my spar I was wondering the best method for attaching my piano hinge
to the backside of my fwd spar?
Thanks,
Kyle
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Airspeed, altitude or brains: Two are always needed to successfully complete the
flight.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=367783#367783
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| Subject: | center section storage lid hinge-to-front spar |
Kyle,
I just drilled a few pilot holes for some truss-head wood screws to attach
my
hinged cover for the center section storage compartment. The other 1/2 of
my
hinge is riveted to the aluminum cover.
Mike C.
for more photos please see: http://www.westcoastpiet.com/images/Mike%20Cuy
%20A-65%20Piet/mike_cuy_2.htm
(Thank you Chris Tracy!!!!)
[cid:image003.jpg@01CCFAD1.6EDB0CA0]
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| Subject: | In Carrollton for a couple days...today.... |
Sorry for the short notice but I ended up on a quick trip to Carrollton GA....and
I'm in Carrollton now..leaving on Thursday...
And would love to meet up for some Piet talk, dinner, whatever.
Jim Markle
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| Subject: | Re: Aluminum for cowl and forward deck? |
Thanks, everybody for the fast responses. I will be ordering today. More
money for ASS!
Ray Krause
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Ash" <ashcan@earthlink.net>
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2012 6:21 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Aluminum for cowl and forward deck?
>
> I would ask if you plan to shape any of these parts. If not, then what
> you've got is probably ok. If you plan on forming it, I'd go with 3003.
> 6061 wouldn't be my first choice for formability. ASS has a neat little
> summary chart in their catalogs:
>
> http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/pdf/aluminumalloy.pdf
>
> Note the 'Cold Workability' column. 1100 (pure Al), is the easiest to
> work, but it's not real strong. 3003 is still easy to work (only a nudge
> more difficult than 1100), but it's stronger.
>
> Regardless if you're forming or not, when you're doing tight bends, watch
> your bend radius, especially if you're using thicker sheet.
>
> Jim Ash
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>>From: Ray Krause <raykrause@frontiernet.net>
>>Sent: Mar 4, 2012 10:14 PM
>>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>>Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Aluminum for cowl and forward deck?
>>
>><raykrause@frontiernet.net>
>>
>>> Dear friends,
>>
>>What type of aluminum have you folks been using for the cowl and forward
>>decking from the pilot's seat to the cowl? I have some .025 6061 T6, but
>>it may be too stiff. Any softer sheeting being used? I need to od=redr
>>some
>>plywood and thought I would include this in the order.
>>
>>Thanks so much,
>>
>>
>>
>>Ray Krause
>>Sky Scout coming along.
>>>
>>> >
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| Subject: | In Carrollton for a couple days...today.... |
Jim
The Big Piet Builders are on another project and our work night is Monday
(tomight)
We would love for you to come out and hang with us. We work from 6:30 till
we get tired. We could even see some Big Piets.
Why don't you call me and we can meet. I leave my office around 4:30.
Barry Davis
770-301-8087
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Markle
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2012 1:22 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: In Carrollton for a couple days...today....
--> <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
Sorry for the short notice but I ended up on a quick trip to Carrollton
GA....and I'm in Carrollton now..leaving on Thursday...
And would love to meet up for some Piet talk, dinner, whatever.
Jim Markle
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| Subject: | In Carrollton for a couple days...today.... |
Sounds great...but I would prefer running by the hotel and putting on some jeans
and a work shirt....if you would consider letting me do some work...
I'll call you after work...I'll probably work until around 5...
Thanks Barry!
-----Original Message-----
>From: Barry Davis <bed@mindspring.com>
>Sent: Mar 5, 2012 2:22 PM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: In Carrollton for a couple days...today....
>
>
>Jim
>The Big Piet Builders are on another project and our work night is Monday
>(tomight)
>We would love for you to come out and hang with us. We work from 6:30 till
>we get tired. We could even see some Big Piets.
>Why don't you call me and we can meet. I leave my office around 4:30.
>Barry Davis
>770-301-8087
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Markle
>Sent: Monday, March 05, 2012 1:22 PM
>To: Pietenpol List
>Subject: Pietenpol-List: In Carrollton for a couple days...today....
>
>--> <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
>
>Sorry for the short notice but I ended up on a quick trip to Carrollton
>GA....and I'm in Carrollton now..leaving on Thursday...
>
>And would love to meet up for some Piet talk, dinner, whatever.
>
>Jim Markle
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: center section storage lid hinge-to-front spar |
Thanks Mike! I wasn't sure if I was going to use truss screws like you did or #8
machine screws with blind nut plates. I think your method will be my weapon
of choice. .
Thanks again!
Kyle
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Airspeed, altitude or brains: Two are always needed to successfully complete the
flight.
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| Subject: | In Carrollton for a couple days...today.... |
Barry, I'm a Piet builder over in Locust Grove Ga. Would love to get some advice
on finishing my project, can't make this Monday nite but would love to next
Monday nite. Is that alright?
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry Davis
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2012 2:23 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: In Carrollton for a couple days...today....
Jim
The Big Piet Builders are on another project and our work night is Monday
(tomight)
We would love for you to come out and hang with us. We work from 6:30 till we get
tired. We could even see some Big Piets.
Why don't you call me and we can meet. I leave my office around 4:30.
Barry Davis
770-301-8087
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Markle
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2012 1:22 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: In Carrollton for a couple days...today....
--> <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
Sorry for the short notice but I ended up on a quick trip to Carrollton GA....and
I'm in Carrollton now..leaving on Thursday...
And would love to meet up for some Piet talk, dinner, whatever.
Jim Markle
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| Subject: | Re: center section storage lid hinge-to-front spar |
I should know, but don't remember what a truss-head screw is. Could you
enlighten me? Chuck
----- Original Message -----
From: Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP]
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2012 1:11 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: center section storage lid hinge-to-front
spar
Kyle,
I just drilled a few pilot holes for some truss-head wood screws to
attach my
hinged cover for the center section storage compartment. The other
1/2 of my
hinge is riveted to the aluminum cover.
Mike C.
for more photos please see:
http://www.westcoastpiet.com/images/Mike%20Cuy%20A-65%20Piet/mike_cuy_2.h
tm
(Thank you Chris Tracy!!!!)
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| Subject: | In Carrollton for a couple days...today.... |
Would enjoy you coming out to Carrollton. Just call me and we can arrange to
meet.
Barry
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sutton, Mark
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2012 4:30 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: In Carrollton for a couple days...today....
--> <msutton@unitedwayatlanta.org>
Barry, I'm a Piet builder over in Locust Grove Ga. Would love to get some
advice on finishing my project, can't make this Monday nite but would love
to next Monday nite. Is that alright?
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry Davis
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2012 2:23 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: In Carrollton for a couple days...today....
Jim
The Big Piet Builders are on another project and our work night is Monday
(tomight)
We would love for you to come out and hang with us. We work from 6:30 till
we get tired. We could even see some Big Piets.
Why don't you call me and we can meet. I leave my office around 4:30.
Barry Davis
770-301-8087
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Markle
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2012 1:22 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: In Carrollton for a couple days...today....
--> <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
Sorry for the short notice but I ended up on a quick trip to Carrollton
GA....and I'm in Carrollton now..leaving on Thursday...
And would love to meet up for some Piet talk, dinner, whatever.
Jim Markle
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| Subject: | Re: center section storage lid hinge-to-front spar |
Chuck,
Truss head screws have a larger head diameter, and lower profile than round head
screws. They provide more bearing surface under the head, and protrude less.
I've attached a handy old handmade chart that I used to use for drafting - back
in the days when screws were drawn by hand (instead of computer).
Bill C.
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| Subject: | In Carrollton for a couple days...today.... |
Mark, I am rebuoilding my piet at the Lagrange airport. I would also like to meet
sometime. Gardiner Mason
--- On Mon, 3/5/12, Sutton, Mark <msutton@unitedwayatlanta.org> wrote:
> From: Sutton, Mark <msutton@unitedwayatlanta.org>
> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: In Carrollton for a couple days...today....
> To: "'pietenpol-list@matronics.com'" <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Date: Monday, March 5, 2012, 4:30 PM
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted
> by: "Sutton, Mark" <msutton@unitedwayatlanta.org>
>
> Barry, I'm a Piet builder over in Locust Grove
> Ga. Would love to get some advice on finishing my
> project, can't make this Monday nite but would love to next
> Monday nite. Is that alright?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]
> On Behalf Of Barry Davis
> Sent: Monday, March 05, 2012 2:23 PM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: In Carrollton for a couple
> days...today....
>
> <bed@mindspring.com>
>
> Jim
> The Big Piet Builders are on another project and our work
> night is Monday
> (tomight)
> We would love for you to come out and hang with us. We work
> from 6:30 till we get tired. We could even see some Big
> Piets.
> Why don't you call me and we can meet. I leave my office
> around 4:30.
> Barry Davis
> 770-301-8087
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]
> On Behalf Of Jim Markle
> Sent: Monday, March 05, 2012 1:22 PM
> To: Pietenpol List
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: In Carrollton for a couple
> days...today....
>
> --> <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
>
> Sorry for the short notice but I ended up on a quick trip to
> Carrollton GA....and I'm in Carrollton now..leaving on
> Thursday...
>
> And would love to meet up for some Piet talk, dinner,
> whatever.
>
> Jim Markle
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| Subject: | Sport Aviation - Mark's Struts |
Pony Express takes a few days extra to make it to California, so I just got
my copy today. Kudos to Matt Paxton and Mark Chouinard! .and to "Jimmy The
Bag"! Giving credit where credit is due.thanks to EAA for including some
grass roots stuff!!
Gary from Cool
NX308MB
Do not archive
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| Subject: | My continental twirling muscle is sore. |
Time to roll the dice an reveal my ignorance in public. First the story,
then questions: I rolled the airplane out of the garage on Saturday night
to run the engine for the first time in a few years since it has been down
for repairs. Having pulled the engine through a few times to make sure
things were lubricated, I switched on the left mag and gave the prop a
turn. I repeated the process, a lot. The engine did not start or even act
like it might. A whiff of the exhaust led me to believe that there was a
fuel mixture reaching the cylinders, so I turned my attention to the
ignition system. I decided to check the grounding of the p-leads and was
alarmed (initially) that I found continuity between the post and the case.
Removing the leads showed me the switch was good. In my state of alarm I
took the top off the left mag to check for a short, cracking the sight
window in the process. As I probed around in there, It occurred to me that
there could be an inductive coupling to the case. A check of a general
schematic supported that Idea. Rats, cracked window for what. A few
youtube videos later I started wondering if something was wrong with the
impulse coupling. Turning the prop yielded no audible click. Hmm.
Thinking back, it seems other experienced pilots have seemed to have
struggles starting my airplane, back before I had to fix it. They'd give
it a few turns and express some dismay, Then I'd have them hold the
airplane while I gave it my usual mighty heave (I've never known anything
different, but sometimes it would be enough to get a full turn out of the
prop.) So the possibility that I've never had a functional impulse
coupling has now entered my head...
Questions:
--What can I use for or where can I get a timing sight window (and while
I'm at it a lid gasket and other sundry parts) for m SF4RN
--Should I be able to hear the impulse coupling click when pulling the
propeller around?
-- I could stick a bolt in a high tension terminal and feel for a shock,
should that give me confidence that the mag is otherwise functional, or
should I pull a plug and see if it sparks?
--How likely is it that my cores need to be re-magnitized.
Thanks for the help...
--
Andrew Eldredge
Provo, UT
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| Subject: | Re: Aluminum for cowl and forward deck? |
Yes, you can cut it easily with tin snips.
Jim B.
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| Subject: | Re: My continental twirling muscle is sore. |
Some planes only had the impulse coupling on one Mag. Not sure why or what planes.
But I have heard some old pilots/mechanics mention it.
Blue Skies,
Steve D
----- Original Message -----
From: Andrew Eldredge <andrew.eldredge@gmail.com>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: My continental twirling muscle is sore.
> Time to roll the dice an reveal my ignorance in public. First the
> story,then questions: I rolled the airplane out of the garage on
> Saturday night
> to run the engine for the first time in a few years since it has
> been down
> for repairs. Having pulled the engine through a few times to make
> surethings were lubricated, I switched on the left mag and gave the
> prop a
> turn. I repeated the process, a lot. The engine did not start or
> even act
> like it might. A whiff of the exhaust led me to believe that there
> was a
> fuel mixture reaching the cylinders, so I turned my attention to the
> ignition system. I decided to check the grounding of the p-leads
> and was
> alarmed (initially) that I found continuity between the post and
> the case.
> Removing the leads showed me the switch was good. In my state of
> alarm I
> took the top off the left mag to check for a short, cracking the sight
> window in the process. As I probed around in there, It occurred to
> me that
> there could be an inductive coupling to the case. A check of a
> generalschematic supported that Idea. Rats, cracked window for
> what. A few
> youtube videos later I started wondering if something was wrong
> with the
> impulse coupling. Turning the prop yielded no audible click. Hmm.
> Thinking back, it seems other experienced pilots have seemed to have
> struggles starting my airplane, back before I had to fix it.
> They'd give
> it a few turns and express some dismay, Then I'd have them hold the
> airplane while I gave it my usual mighty heave (I've never known
> anythingdifferent, but sometimes it would be enough to get a full
> turn out of the
> prop.) So the possibility that I've never had a functional impulse
> coupling has now entered my head...
>
> Questions:
> --What can I use for or where can I get a timing sight window
> (and while
> I'm at it a lid gasket and other sundry parts) for m SF4RN
> --Should I be able to hear the impulse coupling click when
> pulling the
> propeller around?
> -- I could stick a bolt in a high tension terminal and feel for
> a shock,
> should that give me confidence that the mag is otherwise
> functional, or
> should I pull a plug and see if it sparks?
> --How likely is it that my cores need to be re-magnitized.
>
> Thanks for the help...
> --
> Andrew Eldredge
> Provo, UT
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| Subject: | Re: My continental twirling muscle is sore. |
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| Subject: | Re: In Carrollton for a couple days...today.... |
Jim,
I'm probably an hour and a half to an hour and forty five north of you, but you're
welcome to come up and see my shop and Piet. If the wx is good, we could
go for a ride!
I'm in Detroit at the moment but should be home before thursday (possibly tomorrow).
Give me a shout and let me know if you might be interested.
The plane is based in Lafayette GA (9a5) and I live in Chickamauga GA, just a few
miles north of that.
Tools, 423 580 1383 (aka Mike and I'm still up and will be a for a few hours)
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Disrepect, hate, hate, disrepect.
To the plans!
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On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 8:37 PM, Bill Church <billspiet@sympatico.ca> wrote:
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And I can't even spell disrespect properly a second time. Fantastic
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On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 9:54 PM, Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com> wrote:
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| Subject: | Re: Sport Aviation - Mark's Struts |
Thanks Gary!
--------
Mark Chouinard
Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage
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