---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 03/16/12: 38 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:29 AM - hand help radio question (Douwe Blumberg) 2. 06:45 AM - Re: Re: Wire Wheels (Hans van der Voort) 3. 06:49 AM - Re: Re: Wire Wheels (Michael Perez) 4. 06:51 AM - Re: hand help radio question (Hans van der Voort) 5. 06:51 AM - Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun (Ed Wischmeyer) 6. 07:07 AM - Wheels and Rough fields (Douwe Blumberg) 7. 07:07 AM - Re: hand help radio question (Jeff Wilson) 8. 07:21 AM - Re: hand help radio question (John Kuhfahl) 9. 07:32 AM - Re: hand help radio question (Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB) 10. 07:46 AM - Re: Wire Wheels (giacummo) 11. 07:46 AM - Re: hand help radio question (Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB) 12. 07:47 AM - Re: hand help radio question (bradandlinda tds.net) 13. 07:59 AM - Re: Wheels and Rough fields (bradandlinda tds.net) 14. 09:34 AM - Re: hand help radio question (Jack@textors.com) 15. 12:49 PM - Re: hand help radio question (Dick N) 16. 01:22 PM - Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun (Ben Charvet) 17. 01:34 PM - Re: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun (Kringle) 18. 01:49 PM - Re: hand help radio question (PatrickW) 19. 02:05 PM - Re: Re: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun (Ben Charvet) 20. 02:08 PM - Re: Re: hand help radio question (Gary Boothe) 21. 02:40 PM - Re: hand help radio question (dgaldrich) 22. 02:42 PM - Landing Gear V's (Jack) 23. 03:05 PM - Re: Landing Gear V's (Jack Phillips) 24. 03:13 PM - Re: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun (Bill Church) 25. 03:19 PM - Re: Landing Gear V's (Gary Boothe) 26. 03:21 PM - Re: Landing Gear V's (Bill Church) 27. 03:31 PM - Re: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun (airlion) 28. 03:38 PM - Re: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun (airlion) 29. 05:19 PM - Re: Re: Bendix magneto starting issues (Andrew Eldredge) 30. 06:08 PM - Landing Gear V question (John Franklin) 31. 07:08 PM - Re: Landing Gear V question (Ben Charvet) 32. 07:20 PM - Re: Re: Bendix magneto starting issues (Greg Cardinal) 33. 07:34 PM - Re: Landing Gear V's (aerocarjake) 34. 07:43 PM - Re: Re: Angle of Incidence. (Ray Krause) 35. 08:28 PM - Re: Landing Gear V question (Hans van der Voort) 36. 08:30 PM - Re: Landing Gear V's (Hans van der Voort) 37. 09:03 PM - Re: Landing Gear V's (Billy McCaskill) 38. 09:58 PM - Re: Landing Gear V's (K5YAC) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:29:01 AM PST US From: "Douwe Blumberg" Subject: Pietenpol-List: hand help radio question I believe I've asked this a while back, but lost it, so accept my apologies. Two questions. 1. what handheld radio should I purchase. Something simple just to communicate. 2. Is your radio range acceptable or should I look into adding an external antennae of some kind. Thanks! Douwe ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:45:59 AM PST US From: Hans van der Voort Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wire Wheels Diameter is more important that width for rough field landings.=0AOnly on s oft soil a wider wheel would be beneficial.=0A-=0ABut regardless of that I have standard 6" Aircraft wheels and have found no problem either way.=0A -=0AMy home field is 3000 ft of grass strip, not always mowed, soft after a rain shower and with the occasional gopher hole.=0AEven made a ,engine o ut, off field landing once on a freshly harvested cornfield, 90 degrees acr oss the 6" deep planting rows, without a problem.=0A-=0AHans=0A-=0ANX15 KV=0AWaller, TX=0A- =0A=0A________________________________=0A From: giacu mmo =0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 7:36 PM=0ASubject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wire Wheels ail.com>=0A=0AMay be I did the bad question, I know they have to have big d iameter, but I ask about how thik.. 3", 5"....7"- . is any difference in rough fields?.. I think wider could be beter, but may be not.. this is why I ask=0A=0AThank you Gary.=0A=0Amario=0A=0A=0Agboothe5(at)comcast.net wrote :=0A> Mario,=0A> =0A> Big diameter wheels will roll over those rough fields a little easier. They=0A> are heavy, though. My wheels weigh close to 25lb s each! I would not want the=0A> rims to be any wider. I understand that th e aluminum wheels from Baslee are=0A> considerably lighter...but more expen sive. Not sure if that answers your=0A> question...=0A> =0A> Gary from Cool =0A> NX308MB=0A> =0A> --=0A=0A=0A--------=0AMario Giacummo=0Ahttp://vgmk1.b logspot.com=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.m ============== ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:49:04 AM PST US From: Michael Perez Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wire Wheels Mario, my rims are 21" across and 3" wide.- There are a lot of factors th at could play a role here, but my main concern, of course, is weight and to a lesser degree, ascetics.- As mentioned, the large wheels/tires and the wood straight axle gear are very heavy. As much as it pained me to do it, I went with this heavy set up because I prefer the look of this assembly. - If you use the wood gear with wire wheels, I doubt you will notice any difference in feel between the various rim diameters generally used for thi s set up. Thin rims will tend to dig into soft earth, the wide will have a larger sur face area at contact and will tend to ride "on" the terrain.- Wider rims may introduce more aero. drag in flight.- Wider rims may weight more then the thin... Michael Perez =0AKaretaker Aero =0Awww.karetakeraero.com ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:51:03 AM PST US From: Hans van der Voort Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: hand help radio question Douwe,=0A=C2-=0AI use the Icom A6 with a Dave Clark head set and home mad e PTT switch on the Stick.=0A=C2-=0AStandard antenna, good reception, 20+ miles (other aircraft)=0ATransmitting range 3-5 miles (in the air)=0A=C2 -=0AI=C2-am happy with it=0A=C2-=0AHans=0A=C2-=0ANX15KV=0AWaller, T X=0A =0A=0A________________________________=0A From: Douwe Blumberg =0ATo: pietenpolgroup =0ASent: Friday, March 16, 2012 8:30 AM=0ASubject: Pietenpol-List: hand hel p radio question=0A =0A=0A =0AI believe I=99ve asked this a while ba ck, but lost it,=0Aso accept my apologies. =0A=C2- =0ATwo questions =0A=C2- =0A1. what handheld radio should I purchase.=C2- Somethi ng simple just to communicate. =0A2. Is your radio range acceptable or s hould I look into adding an external antennae of some kind. =0A=C2- =0AT ======== ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:51:37 AM PST US From: Ed Wischmeyer Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun If anybody has a photogenic, well-built Pietenpol that would be an appropriate subject for a Kitplanes pilot report, please let me know. If you're flying down from the north, I live just outside Savannah, GA, and we could do the story the weekend before. thanks Ed Wischmeyer 912 665-2969 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:07:03 AM PST US From: "Douwe Blumberg" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wheels and Rough fields I think it is fairly clear that the best wheel for "rough" fields is a large tundra type tire. However, if you want to use a large diameter, old-fashioned type wheel. You are correct that the larger diameter the wheel, the easier it will handle rough terrain, especially holes. You are also technically correct that the wider the wheel, the less it will sink in as it is spreading the weight out over a larger footprint. HOWEVER, these are heavy wheels and larger diameter and wider tires add LOTS of weight when you're talking about 21" wheels. I would take the advise of those who have flown off a lot of different surfaces like Jack Phillips and if he says 3" works, I'd go with that. One options I'd consider for rough fields while still keeping the old looking wheels is the 26 X 4" high pressure aircraft tires that Coker Tire sells, IF you could find a rim for them. They might sell them. There was a Piet at Rhinebeck Aerodrome that used these and it looked very nice, though it would be a VERY expensive wheel. Good luck and keep building!! (and disregard the grumpy people on this list.) Yours, Douwe ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:07:38 AM PST US From: Jeff Wilson Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: hand help radio question Hi Douwe, I like any of the Icom line. Check them out here. http://www.mypilotstore.com/MyPilotStore/secd/12 They have hard to beat prices too. As an EE, I absolutely recommend an external antenna. Especially if you fly c ross country. Be sure to build in a ground plane to mount it to. Jeff Wilson St. Louis, MO Fuse done, no gear yet Wings done, need brace wires yet A-65/Hegy semi-scimitar Sent from my iPhone On Mar 16, 2012, at 8:30 AM, "Douwe Blumberg" w rote: > I believe I=99ve asked this a while back, but lost it, so accept my a pologies. > > Two questions > > what handheld radio should I purchase. Something simple just to communica te. > Is your radio range acceptable or should I look into adding an external an tennae of some kind. > > Thanks! > > Douwe > > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:21:31 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: hand help radio question From: John Kuhfahl 1. I do not recommend Vertex Standard. Although it worked OK for a while, it now has squelch problems. Also the frequency change knob is easily bumped in and you are on the wrong frequency. Finally, the read out is tiny (for us old guys). 2. An external antenna helps tremendously (at least on an aluminum aircraft. On the fabric you will need a ground plane (not a big deal--just a honk'o'metal plate. John, A-65 engine rebuild complete, Aircraft 90% done 90% to go On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 8:30 AM, Douwe Blumberg wrote: > I believe I=92ve asked this a while back, but lost it, so accept my > apologies.**** > > ** ** > > Two questions=85**** > > ** ** > > 1. what handheld radio should I purchase. Something simple just to > communicate.**** > 2. Is your radio range acceptable or should I look into adding an > external antennae of some kind.**** > > ** ** > > Thanks!**** > > ** ** > > Douwe**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > * > =========== =========== =========== =========== > * > > -- John Kuhfahl, Lt Col USAF (Ret), President, KUHLCOUPER LLC ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 07:32:55 AM PST US From: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: hand help radio question In my buddies 1947 Aeronca Champ we use: an old ICOM AC21 with an external antenna put in the cargo area behind the rear seat (not mounted outside the airplane.) (available for about $100 used on Ebay) with an Sigtronics SPO22 Intercom (around $200) with PTT built into the stick. and 2 Lightspeed ANR 15 XLC headsets (NOS for $400 each when the New model Zulu came out) All put into a fixed mount beside the front pilot where the rear pilot can reach it. There is an option to use a small motorcycle battery mounted under the front seat, but it is more hassle to recharge than the ICOM Battery and so it not often used. We get about 5+ miles range and it is very reliable. In My 1947 Vtail Bonanza I use and ICOM AC21 with the short rubber whip and gets 3-4 mile range. The ICOM AC21 also has the ability to navigate to VORs but the Champ mount is not set up for it and it is a hassle to do freehand. Especially since I now need reading glasses to read the panel. Blue Skies, Steve D ----- Original Message ----- From: Hans van der Voort Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: hand help radio question > Douwe, > > I use the Icom A6 with a Dave Clark head set and home made PTT > switch on the Stick. > > Standard antenna, good reception, 20+ miles (other aircraft) > Transmitting range 3-5 miles (in the air) > > Iam happy with it > > Hans > > NX15KV > Waller, TX > > > ________________________________ > From: Douwe Blumberg < > To: pietenpolgroup < > Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 8:30 AM > Subject: Pietenpol-List: hand help radio question > > > > I believe Ive asked this a while back, but lost it, > so accept my apologies. > > Two questions > > 1. what handheld radio should I purchase. Something simple just to communicate. > 2. Is your radio range acceptable or should I look into adding an external antennae of some kind. > > T======== ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:46:45 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wire Wheels From: "giacummo" Thank you very much, on less problem to think in.. ;o) speedbrake(at)sbcglobal.n wrote: > Mario, my rims are 21" across and 3" wide. There are a lot of factors that could play a role here, but my main concern, of course, is weight and to a lesser degree, ascetics. As mentioned, the large wheels/tires and the wood straight axle gear are very heavy. As much as it pained me to do it, I went with this heavy set up because I prefer the look of this assembly. If you use the wood gear with wire wheels, I doubt you will notice any difference in feel between the various rim diameters generally used for this set up. > > Thin rims will tend to dig into soft earth, the wide will have a larger surface area at contact and will tend to ride "on" the terrain. Wider rims may introduce more aero. drag in flight. Wider rims may weight more then the thin... > > Michael Perez > Karetaker Aero > www.karetakeraero.com -------- Mario Giacummo http://vgmk1.blogspot.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=368688#368688 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 07:46:54 AM PST US From: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: hand help radio question Reception is about 20+or- miles and transmission is about 5 miles or- Just a thot. A cheap and light panel mount COM only runs about $1100 plus antenna and some form of electricity (battery?) Blue Skies, Steve D ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: hand help radio question > NGB" < > > In my buddies 1947 Aeronca Champ we use: > > an old ICOM AC21 with an external antenna put in the cargo area behind the rear seat (not mounted outside the airplane.) (available for about $100 used on Ebay) > with an Sigtronics SPO22 Intercom (around $200) with PTT built into the stick. > and 2 Lightspeed ANR 15 XLC headsets (NOS for $400 each when the New model Zulu came out) > All put into a fixed mount beside the front pilot where the rear pilot can reach it. > > There is an option to use a small motorcycle battery mounted under the front seat, but it is more hassle to recharge than the ICOM Battery and so it not often used. > > We get about 5+ miles range and it is very reliable. > > In My 1947 Vtail Bonanza I use and ICOM AC21 with the short rubber whip and gets 3-4 mile range. > > The ICOM AC21 also has the ability to navigate to VORs but the Champ mount is not set up for it and it is a hassle to do freehand. Especially since I now need reading > glasses to read the panel. > > Blue Skies, > Steve D > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Hans van der Voort < > Date: Friday, March 16, 2012 9:02 > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: hand help radio question > To: "pietenpol-list@matronics.com" < > > > > Douwe, > > > > I use the Icom A6 with a Dave Clark head set and home made PTT > > switch on the Stick. > > > > Standard antenna, good reception, 20+ miles (other aircraft) > > Transmitting range 3-5 miles (in the air) > > > > Iam happy with it > > > > Hans > > > > NX15KV > > Waller, TX > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Douwe Blumberg <> To: pietenpolgroup <> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 8:30 AM > > Subject: Pietenpol-List: hand help radio question > > > > > > > > I believe Ive asked this a while back, but lost it, > > so accept my apologies. > > > > Two questions > > > > 1. what handheld radio should I purchase. Something simple just to communicate. > > 2. Is your radio range acceptable or should I look into adding an external antennae of some kind. > > > > T======== > > > > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 07:47:36 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: hand help radio question From: "bradandlinda tds.net" you can add a standard antenna inside the fuseladge behind the rear pilot seat..mount in a vertical plane..one source recommends adding a 6" metal disc at the ant base for better recption..much better than ant on hand held On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 8:30 AM, Douwe Blumberg wrote: > I believe I=92ve asked this a while back, but lost it, so accept my > apologies.**** > > ** ** > > Two questions=85**** > > ** ** > > 1. what handheld radio should I purchase. Something simple just to > communicate.**** > 2. Is your radio range acceptable or should I look into adding an > external antennae of some kind.**** > > ** ** > > Thanks!**** > > ** ** > > Douwe**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > * > =========== =========== =========== =========== > * > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 07:59:07 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wheels and Rough fields From: "bradandlinda tds.net" I once heard that the oldtimers with their large dia. wheels (if they had a forced landing on an aplowed field) would land across the furrows because they could roll over the furrows but because the tires were narrow would sink in the soft ruts if they landed lengthwise. modern small dia. tires should land lengthwise because the furrows would act like wheel chocks On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 9:08 AM, Douwe Blumberg wrote: > I think it is fairly clear that the best wheel for =93rough=94 fields is a > large tundra type tire. However, if you want to use a large diameter, > old-fashioned type wheel=85**** > > ** ** > > You are correct that the larger diameter the wheel, the easier it will > handle rough terrain, especially holes.**** > > ** ** > > You are also technically correct that the wider the wheel, the less it > will sink in as it is spreading the weight out over a larger footprint.** * > * > > ** ** > > HOWEVER, these are heavy wheels and larger diameter and wider tires add > LOTS of weight when you=92re talking about 21=94 wheels.**** > > ** ** > > I would take the advise of those who have flown off a lot of different > surfaces like Jack Phillips and if he says 3=94 works, I=92d go with that .**** > > ** ** > > One options I=92d consider for rough fields while still keeping the old > looking wheels is the 26 X 4=94 high pressure aircraft tires that Coker T ire > sells, IF you could find a rim for them. They might sell them. There wa s > a Piet at Rhinebeck Aerodrome that used these and it looked very nice, > though it would be a VERY expensive wheel.**** > > ** ** > > Good luck and keep building!! (and disregard the grumpy people on this > list=85)**** > > ** ** > > Yours,**** > > ** ** > > Douwe**** > > * > =========== =========== =========== =========== > * > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 09:34:33 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: hand help radio question From: "Jack@textors.com" Vertical ground plane?? I would have guessed horizontal Jack Textor Sent from my iPad On Mar 16, 2012, at 9:46 AM, "bradandlinda tds.net" w rote: > you can add a standard antenna inside the fuseladge behind the rear pilot s eat..mount in a vertical plane..one source recommends adding a 6" metal disc at the ant base for better recption..much better than ant on hand held > > On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 8:30 AM, Douwe Blumberg wrote: > I believe I=99ve asked this a while back, but lost it, so accept my a pologies. > > > > Two questions > > > > what handheld radio should I purchase. Something simple just to communica te. > Is your radio range acceptable or should I look into adding an external an tennae of some kind. > > > Thanks! > > > > Douwe > > > > > > > > " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > tp://forums.matronics.com > _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 12:49:18 PM PST US From: "Dick N" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: hand help radio question Hi Douwe There are usually some specials at SNF and OSH on radios. I am going to buy a new one at SNF. I will e mail you the price I am paying. Dick N. ----- Original Message ----- From: Douwe Blumberg To: pietenpolgroup Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 8:30 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: hand help radio question I believe I've asked this a while back, but lost it, so accept my apologies. Two questions. 1.. what handheld radio should I purchase. Something simple just to communicate. 2.. Is your radio range acceptable or should I look into adding an external antennae of some kind. Thanks! Douwe ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 01:22:06 PM PST US From: Ben Charvet Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun I'm hoping to have my photogenic, well-built Pietenpol at Sun-N-Fun. Only live 70 miles away in Titusville, Fl if you'd rather see it there. Ben Charvet On 3/16/2012 9:50 AM, Ed Wischmeyer wrote: > > If anybody has a photogenic, well-built Pietenpol that would be an > appropriate subject for a Kitplanes pilot report, please let me know. > If you're flying down from the north, I live just outside Savannah, > GA, and we could do the story the weekend before. > > thanks > > Ed Wischmeyer > > > 912 665-2969 > * > > > * -- Ben Charvet, PharmD Staff Pharmacist Parrish Medical center ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 01:34:14 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun From: "Kringle" I had to buy a new computer monitor so I could see the whole picture [Laughing] John -------- Do Not Archive John Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=368707#368707 ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 01:49:23 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: hand help radio question From: "PatrickW" Funny story. Couple years ago at OSH I bought a handheld radio (plus a bunch of other stuff at the same time) from Aircraft Spruce at their booth. Later that night I started looking though all the goodies I'd bought. Got to the the radio's box, opened it up - and NO RADIO! Had all the manuals, charger, batteries, etc, but the radio itself wasn't there... Long story short, the guys at the ACS booth had been displaying that particular radio at their counter. I called them on the phone and eventually convinced them that I wasn't trying to pull one over on them (after all, who would buy an empty radio box...?). They eventually figured out what happened and I got my radio (plus $20 for my trouble). - Pat -------- Patrick Hoyt 601XLb/Corvair N63PZ - 99.999% done.... Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=368708#368708 ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 02:05:47 PM PST US From: Ben Charvet Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun Sorry, should have sent a smaller version. Ben Do not archive On 3/16/2012 4:32 PM, Kringle wrote: > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Kringle" > > I had to buy a new computer monitor so I could see the whole picture [Laughing] > > John > > -------- > Do Not Archive > John > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=368707#368707 > > -- Ben Charvet, PharmD Staff Pharmacist Parrish Medical center ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 02:08:29 PM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: hand help radio question Obviously, they don't know you like we do!! :-0 Gary Boothe NX308MB Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of PatrickW Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 1:48 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: hand help radio question Funny story. Couple years ago at OSH I bought a handheld radio (plus a bunch of other stuff at the same time) from Aircraft Spruce at their booth. Later that night I started looking though all the goodies I'd bought. Got to the the radio's box, opened it up - and NO RADIO! Had all the manuals, charger, batteries, etc, but the radio itself wasn't there... Long story short, the guys at the ACS booth had been displaying that particular radio at their counter. I called them on the phone and eventually convinced them that I wasn't trying to pull one over on them (after all, who would buy an empty radio box...?). They eventually figured out what happened and I got my radio (plus $20 for my trouble). - Pat -------- Patrick Hoyt 601XLb/Corvair N63PZ - 99.999% done.... Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=368708#368708 ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 02:40:38 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: hand help radio question From: "dgaldrich" For a discussion (several actually) on the antenna part of this subject, check out the Aerolectric Forum hosted on this very Matronics site. Search for things like "homemade comm antenna", "rubber whip", and so on. Bob Nuckols has collected a wealth of information and he actually has some real knowledge, practical experience, and credibility. I'm going the Jack Phillips route and putting a real radio and real antenna in mine powered by a real battery. The additional cost isn't huge and the performance, due primarily to the antenna, is MUCH better especially if you intend to do any real cross country travel. It sure would be nice to know what the ATIS/AWOS is more than 10 minutes away or that a mayday call could be heard beyond 10 or 20 miles. Just stuff to consider. Dave Aldrich do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=368716#368716 ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 02:42:04 PM PST US From: "Jack" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Landing Gear V's Finally showing some progress got both V's tacked today. The white pole is straight in the picture it appears droopy. 84 today wish she was done. Jack Textor DSM NX1929T ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 03:05:06 PM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Landing Gear V's Looking good, Jack! Jack Phillips NX899JP Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 5:41 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Landing Gear V's Finally showing some progress got both V's tacked today. The white pole is straight in the picture it appears droopy. 84 today wish she was done. Jack Textor DSM NX1929T <<...>> <<...>> <<...>> <<...>> ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 03:13:28 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun From: "Bill Church" No Ben, you should NOT have sent a smaller photo. That's a GREAT shot. It deserves to be BIG. BC do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=368722#368722 ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 03:19:27 PM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Landing Gear V's Good lookin' gear, Jack! Your axle looks droopy. ;-) Gary Boothe NX308MB Do not archive From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 2:41 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Landing Gear V's Finally showing some progress got both V's tacked today. The white pole is straight in the picture it appears droopy. 84 today wish she was done. Jack Textor DSM NX1929T <<...>> <<...>> <<...>> <<...>> ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 03:21:00 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Landing Gear V's From: "Bill Church" Wow... 84... I didn't even know it was your birthday. And I had no idea you were that old, Jack. You don't look a day over 75! Seriously though, you're doing some really nice work on your Piet. Gonna be a beauty. Bill C. do not archive Jack wrote: > 84 today wish she was done Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=368724#368724 ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 03:31:27 PM PST US From: airlion Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun Best you check out your tornado insurance. Sun N fUN WILL NAIL YOU FOR any damage done to their property ________________________________ From: Ben Charvet Sent: Fri, March 16, 2012 4:20:11 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun I'm hoping to have my photogenic, well-built Pietenpol at Sun-N-Fun. Only live 70 miles away in Titusville, Fl if you'd rather see it there. Ben Charvet On 3/16/2012 9:50 AM, Ed Wischmeyer wrote: >If anybody has a photogenic, well-built Pietenpol that would be an >appropriate subject for a Kitplanes pilot report, please let me know. If >you're flying down from the north, I live just outside Savannah, GA, and >we could do the story the weekend before. > > >thanks > > >Ed Wischmeyer > > >912 665-2969 -- Ben Charvet, PharmD Staff Pharmacist Parrish Medical center ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 03:38:18 PM PST US From: airlion Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun sun n fun wil only think of themselves and will get rid of anything that looks like a disaster to the public. ________________________________ From: airlion Sent: Fri, March 16, 2012 6:30:20 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun Best you check out your tornado insurance. Sun N fUN WILL NAIL YOU FOR any damage done to their property ________________________________ From: Ben Charvet Sent: Fri, March 16, 2012 4:20:11 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun I'm hoping to have my photogenic, well-built Pietenpol at Sun-N-Fun. Only live 70 miles away in Titusville, Fl if you'd rather see it there. Ben Charvet On 3/16/2012 9:50 AM, Ed Wischmeyer wrote: >If anybody has a photogenic, well-built Pietenpol that would be an >appropriate subject for a Kitplanes pilot report, please let me know. If >you're flying down from the north, I live just outside Savannah, GA, and >we could do the story the weekend before. > > >thanks > > >Ed Wischmeyer > > >912 665-2969 -- Ben Charvet, PharmD Staff Pharmacist Parrish Medical center ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 05:19:26 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Bendix magneto starting issues From: Andrew Eldredge This has been a fascinating Thread. Since I got this started. I'll wrap up with what happened. I could find nothing wrong with the internals of the mag, So I put it back together and decided that I could give it another shot before pulling the mag off to check for the existance/status of an impulse coupling. To stack the deck in my favor, I turned the piet around so that I could get some sun on the engine for a few hours. (the weather is still a little chilly.) After a few rounds of pulling, she fired up and ran for several seconds. I think that perhaps I am not as physical as I was the last time I did it, it seems the engine is exactly the same. So, The engine ran for about ten seconds, I repeated the start five times, and was able to get back to the pit in enough time so see the oil pressure come up. When I can get the motor running a little longer I should be able to a do a mag-check. I'm not sure why it won't run that long. My theories may have to wait, Time for supper Andrew On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 10:41 PM, dgaldrich wrote: > dgaldrich@embarqmail.com> > > One of the things about this thread is that it forced me to find synapses > that hadn't fired in the 40+ years since I got out of college with a EE > degree. It hurt!!! > > I WAS lucky to have met the USAF's requirements to fly and was proud to > serve my country for 20 years. Like most of my fellow veterans, the > service was its own reward and damn few of us seek any accolades for it. > We know too many people who have sacrificed everything and are forgotten. > At military funerals, the widow is presented with an American flag and > generally words to the affect that it's the thanks of a grateful nation. > I've done that presentation. It's the only thing I think about when > people thank me for my service. > > It seems everyone everyone wishes that they could be good at something > else. I have little artistic talent and am amazed by the stuff that Douwe > does with his hands and imagination. I wish I could sing barbershop > harmony. Not gonna happen. Doesn't mean I can't appreciate them. > > One last thought... What's new? Cee over lambda. If you get that, I'm > betting you never had a serious romantic relationship until at least your > 20th birthday. There WERE advantages to not being a nerd. > > Hope to see some of you at Sun N Fun. > > Dave > > do not archive > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=368328#368328 > > -- Andrew Eldredge Provo, UT ________________________________ Message 30 ____________________________________ Time: 06:08:03 PM PST US From: John Franklin Subject: Pietenpol-List: Landing Gear V question If you want to fill in the landing gear V's (like a Cub) how do you do it? Is it just fabric and do you have to have a tube at the top of the V? John Franklin GN-1 / Corvair Prairie Aire 4TA0 Needville, TX ________________________________________ ________________________________ Message 31 ____________________________________ Time: 07:08:56 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Landing Gear V question From: Ben Charvet I added a tube at the top that os used as a step to get into the front seat. Didnt cover the gear legs though Ben Sent from my iPhone On Mar 16, 2012, at 9:07 PM, John Franklin wrote: > > If you want to fill in the landing gear V's (like a Cub) how do you do it? Is it just fabric and do you have to have a tube at the top of the V? > > John Franklin > GN-1 / Corvair > Prairie Aire 4TA0 > Needville, TX > > ________________________________________ > > > > ________________________________ Message 32 ____________________________________ Time: 07:20:55 PM PST US From: "Greg Cardinal" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Bendix magneto starting issues Your fuel line might be airbound. Open the fuel shut-off valve and raise the tail up high. You want to give any trapped air a chance to migrate out of the fuel line. When first starting NX18235 our A-65 was acting just like yours. It would start and run for 5 - 10 seconds and then die. After ensuring all air was out of the fuel line it started and ran fine. Greg Cardinal Minneapolis ----- Original Message ----- From: Andrew Eldredge To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 7:18 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Bendix magneto starting issues This has been a fascinating Thread. Since I got this started. I'll wrap up with what happened. I could find nothing wrong with the internals of the mag, So I put it back together and decided that I could give it another shot before pulling the mag off to check for the existance/status of an impulse coupling. To stack the deck in my favor, I turned the piet around so that I could get some sun on the engine for a few hours. (the weather is still a little chilly.) After a few rounds of pulling, she fired up and ran for several seconds. I think that perhaps I am not as physical as I was the last time I did it, it seems the engine is exactly the same. So, The engine ran for about ten seconds, I repeated the start five times, and was able to get back to the pit in enough time so see the oil pressure come up. When I can get the motor running a little longer I should be able to a do a mag-check. I'm not sure why it won't run that long. My theories may have to wait, Time for supper Andrew On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 10:41 PM, dgaldrich wrote: One of the things about this thread is that it forced me to find synapses that hadn't fired in the 40+ years since I got out of college with a EE degree. It hurt!!! I WAS lucky to have met the USAF's requirements to fly and was proud to serve my country for 20 years. Like most of my fellow veterans, the service was its own reward and damn few of us seek any accolades for it. We know too many people who have sacrificed everything and are forgotten. At military funerals, the widow is presented with an American flag and generally words to the affect that it's the thanks of a grateful nation. I've done that presentation. It's the only thing I think about when people thank me for my service. It seems everyone everyone wishes that they could be good at something else. I have little artistic talent and am amazed by the stuff that Douwe does with his hands and imagination. I wish I could sing barbershop harmony. Not gonna happen. Doesn't mean I can't appreciate them. One last thought... What's new? Cee over lambda. If you get that, I'm betting you never had a serious romantic relationship until at least your 20th birthday. There WERE advantages to not being a nerd. Hope to see some of you at Sun N Fun. Dave do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=368328#368328 ========== st" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List ========== http://forums.matronics.com ========== le, List Admin. ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ========== -- Andrew Eldredge Provo, UT ________________________________ Message 33 ____________________________________ Time: 07:34:23 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Landing Gear V's From: "aerocarjake" VERY nice Jack..... Quite a bit of work represented there..... Do not archive -------- Jake Schultz - curator, Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=368749#368749 ________________________________ Message 34 ____________________________________ Time: 07:43:05 PM PST US From: "Ray Krause" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Angle of Incidence. Bill, I just found your note on the angle of incidence in the AirCamper using the 201/4" rear carbane and the 211/4" front carbane when the FC-10 airfoil is used. This setup actually gives a 3.5 degree incidence since the wing itself has a built-in incidence of 2 degrees (actual chord line versus the button of the spars.). That is a fantastic help! My question is: the Sky Scout plans call out 201/4" carbanes in both the front and rear! So I would end up with only 2 degrees of incidence. These carbanes are to be sloped to the rear 5.5", according to the plans. This would, of course, still give the 2 degrees but a much lower wing. Since the Sky Scout was designed After the AirCamper (I think!), do you think the 2 degrees is designed just for the Sky Scout? Since I am 6'4", I made the carbanes (wood) so I can go as much as 23.5". I could make the attachments adjustable in the front. I saw a photo of a Sky Scout flying in the UK and the pilots head was almost touching the wing. Any thought? Thanks, Ray Krause From: "Bill Church" Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 3:20 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Landing Gear V's > > > Wow... 84... > I didn't even know it was your birthday. > And I had no idea you were that old, Jack. > You don't look a day over 75! > > Seriously though, you're doing some really nice work on your Piet. > Gonna be a beauty. > > Bill C. > do not archive > > Jack wrote: > > >> 84 today wish she was done? > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=368724#368724 > > > ________________________________ Message 35 ____________________________________ Time: 08:28:53 PM PST US From: Hans van der Voort Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Landing Gear V question John,=0A-=0AYou will need Fabric support at the Top of the V=0A-=0ASee attached picture of my current project, this "V" will be covered with fabri c.=0AIn this case has a simple U bend profile with same width as tubing=0AA lso has some streamlinig at the back end 1/4" tube=0A-=0AHans=0A-=0ANX1 5KV=0A-=0AWaller, TX=0A=0AFrom: John Franklin =0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Friday, March 16, 2012 8:07 PM=0ASubj ect: Pietenpol-List: Landing Gear V question=0A=0A--> Pietenpol-List messag e posted by: John Franklin =0A=0AIf you want to fill in the landing gear V's (like a Cub) how do you do it?- Is it just fabric a nd do you have to have a tube at the top of the V?=0A=0AJohn Franklin=0AGN- 1 / Corvair=0APrairie Aire 4TA0=0ANeedville, TX=0A=0A______________________ ======================= ________________________________ Message 36 ____________________________________ Time: 08:30:06 PM PST US From: Hans van der Voort Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Landing Gear V's Jack,=0A=C2-=0AGood work, Keep it up (or down in this case)=0A=C2-=0AHa ns=0A=C2-=0ANX15KV=0AWaller, TX=0A=0AFrom: Jack =0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Friday, March 16, 2012 4:41 PM=0ASubj ect: Pietenpol-List: Landing Gear V's=0A=0A=0AFinally showing some progress got both V=99s tackedtoday.=C2- Thewhitepole is straight in the pi cture itappearsdroopy.=C2- 84 today wish she was done=0AJack Tex tor=0ADSM=0ANX1929T=0A<<...>> <<...>> <<...>> <<...>> ________________________________ Message 37 ____________________________________ Time: 09:03:22 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Landing Gear V's From: "Billy McCaskill" Interesting. I've never seen a steel Jenny-style gear. Must be pretty stiff with no bungees between the V's and the axle. :) Really, it's looking great Jack. Excellent workmanship! do not archive -------- Billy McCaskill Urbana, IL tail section almost done, starting on ribs soon Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=368756#368756 ________________________________ Message 38 ____________________________________ Time: 09:58:06 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Landing Gear V's From: "K5YAC" Looks great Jack, and quite inspiring as I contemplate my metal work. I hope to have my fuse on gear this year. -------- Mark Chouinard Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=368757#368757 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.