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Sat 03/17/12


Total Messages Posted: 23



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     1. 04:19 AM - Re: Re: Landing Gear V's (Jack)
     2. 05:33 AM - Re: hand help radio question (gliderx5@comcast.net)
     3. 09:15 AM - handheld radio question (Lawrence Williams)
     4. 09:31 AM - Re: Re: Landing Gear V's (Michael Perez)
     5. 09:38 AM - Re: handheld radio question (Jack@textors.com)
     6. 11:45 AM - Re: handheld radio question (kevinpurtee)
     7. 12:21 PM - Re: Landing Gear V question (taildrags)
     8. 01:41 PM - Re: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun (Frank Metcalfe)
     9. 01:55 PM - Re: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun (Jack Phillips)
    10. 03:09 PM - Re: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun (Peter W Johnson)
    11. 04:18 PM - Re: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun (Jack Phillips)
    12. 04:40 PM - Re: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun (airlion)
    13. 04:57 PM - Re: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun (Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB)
    14. 05:00 PM - Re: Re: Landing Gear V question (Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB)
    15. 05:36 PM - Re: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun (Hans van der Voort)
    16. 05:50 PM - Re: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun (Ben Charvet)
    17. 06:09 PM - Re: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun (Peter W Johnson)
    18. 06:18 PM - Re: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun (Ryan Mueller)
    19. 06:24 PM - Re: Re: handheld radio question (Ryan Mueller)
    20. 06:31 PM - Re: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun (Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB)
    21. 06:34 PM - Re: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun (Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB)
    22. 08:14 PM - Aluminum 8 plug Model A head for sale (Jim Markle)
    23. 09:36 PM - started annual inspection early (shad bell)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:19:37 AM PST US
    From: "Jack" <jack@textors.com>
    Subject: Re: Landing Gear V's
    Thanks Mark and others, it's been one of the tougher segments to date. This calculator http://metalgeek.com/static/cope.pcgi was helpful. Using it and red craft? paper saved some 4130. Also, cut and fit the rear V's first, that way you have enough scrap left for the front when you mess up the rear. :) Still have a long way to go with the springs, lugs and brakes. Jack Textor DSM NX1929T -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of K5YAC Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 11:58 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Landing Gear V's Looks great Jack, and quite inspiring as I contemplate my metal work. I hope to have my fuse on gear this year. -------- Mark Chouinard Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=368757#368757


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    Time: 05:33:13 AM PST US
    From: gliderx5@comcast.net
    Subject: Re: hand help radio question
    I also use an ICOM A6 with a remote antenna and it works great. One thing t o note however is that (at least on mine) you must use a remote PTT when us ing a headset. If you key the mic using the radio mounted PTT it will activ ate the mic on the radio, not the mic on the headset. The remote PTT solves this. I did not have the same issue when using an intercom for some reason . Bottom line is that the A6 works well. Malcolm Morrison http://home.comcast.net/~mmorrison123 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hans van der Voort" <nx15kv@yahoo.com> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 9:49:31 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: hand help radio question Douwe, I use the Icom A6 with a Dave Clark head set and home made PTT switch on th e Stick. Standard antenna, good reception, 20+ miles (other aircraft) Transmitting range 3-5 miles (in the air) I am happy with it Hans NX15KV Waller, TX From: Douwe Blumberg <douweblumberg@earthlink.net> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 8:30 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: hand help radio question I believe I=99ve asked this a while back, but lost it, so accept my a pologies. Two questions 1. what handheld radio should I purchase. Something simple just to comm unicate. 2. Is your radio range acceptable or should I look into adding an exter nal antennae of some kind. Thanks! Douwe http://www.matronics.com/N================ ======= == ==


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    Time: 09:15:44 AM PST US
    From: Lawrence Williams <lnawms@yahoo.com>
    Subject: handheld radio question
    Douwe- - I doubt if I can be of much help since-the handheld radio in my Piet has been hibernating in my helmet box for 10 years. As others have alluded, I d on't do any "Real" cross-country flying but tend to stay in the WI,IL,IN,IA ,KY,OH MO and AR area. Maybe if I had an external antenna or a panel mounte d radio I would be able to do some travelling. Oh, well.-Self-limited by my lack of forethought, I guess. - Larry - ps. anybody want to buy a unused handheld radio?? - do not archive


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    Time: 09:31:17 AM PST US
    From: Michael Perez <speedbrake@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: Landing Gear V's
    Looks very nice Jack!- Good idea with the craft paper. The white poster b oard has also saved me a lot in wood and metal costs.- Looking forward to seeing you gear completed, so keep us posted. Michael Perez Karetaker Aero www.karetakeraero.com


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    Time: 09:38:35 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: handheld radio question
    From: "Jack@textors.com" <jack@textors.com>
    I used portables when ferrying a/c from the Cessna factory, the range was ve ry limited, about five miles. I plan to use a panel mount 2 1/4 inch Flight Line http://www.gulfcoastavionics.com/products/1338-fl-760.aspx and transpo nder in the center section. Anybody have comments or experience with Flight Line? Jack Textor Sent from my iPad On Mar 17, 2012, at 11:13 AM, Lawrence Williams <lnawms@yahoo.com> wrote: > Douwe- > > I doubt if I can be of much help since the handheld radio in my Piet has b een hibernating in my helmet box for 10 years. As others have alluded, I don 't do any "Real" cross-country flying but tend to stay in the WI,IL,IN,IA,KY ,OH MO and AR area. Maybe if I had an external antenna or a panel mounted ra dio I would be able to do some travelling. Oh, well. Self-limited by my lack of forethought, I guess. > > Larry > > ps. anybody want to buy a unused handheld radio?? > > do not archive > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= >


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    Time: 11:45:13 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: handheld radio question
    From: "kevinpurtee" <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
    How do you expect to get into LaGuardia, Larry? Can't wait to show you the new glass panel in fat bottom girl at Brodhead this year. do not archive -------- Kevin &quot;Axel&quot; Purtee NX899KP Austin/Georgetown, TX Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=368774#368774


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    Time: 12:21:29 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Landing Gear V question
    From: "taildrags" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
    At the risk of muddying up the water without really knowing what I'm talking about, I will mention that I remember someone saying that covering the landing gear vees would degrade the airplane's rudder authority by adding flat surface to the side. Maybe we need a "Snopes" myth-buster for this list? -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC &quot;Scout&quot; A75 power Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=368775#368775


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    Time: 01:41:27 PM PST US
    From: Frank Metcalfe <fmetcalf@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun
    I would offer the Sun N Fun Best Fabric Homebuilt winner for 2011 but after the bill I wont be flying it down there this year or any other year. --- On Fri, 3/16/12, airlion <airlion@bellsouth.net> wrote: From: airlion <airlion@bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun sun n fun- wil only think of themselves and will- get rid of anything t hat looks like a disaster to the public. From: airlion <airlion@bellsouth.net> Sent: Fri, March 16, 2012 6:30:20 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun Best you check out your tornado insurance. Sun N fUN WILL NAIL YOU FOR any damage done to their property From: Ben Charvet <bencharvet@gmail.com> Sent: Fri, March 16, 2012 4:20:11 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun I'm hoping to have my photogenic, well-built Pietenpol at Sun-N-Fun.- Onl y live 70 miles away in Titusville, Fl if you'd rather see it there. Ben Charvet On 3/16/2012 9:50 AM, Ed Wischmeyer wrote: If anybody has a photogenic, well-built Pietenpol that would be an appropri ate subject for a Kitplanes pilot report, please let me know. If you're fly ing down from the north, I live just outside Savannah, GA, and we could do the story the weekend before. thanks Ed Wischmeyer 912 665-2969 -- Ben Charvet, PharmD Staff Pharmacist Parrish Medical center


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    Time: 01:55:57 PM PST US
    From: "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun
    Nope - I've flown my Pietenpol to Sun 'n' Fun once, but never again after what they did to the Pieten Pile folks. Jack Phillips NX899JP Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Frank Metcalfe Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 4:41 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun I would offer the Sun N Fun Best Fabric Homebuilt winner for 2011 but after the bill I wont be flying it down there this year or any other year. --- On Fri, 3/16/12, airlion <airlion@bellsouth.net> wrote: From: airlion <airlion@bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun sun n fun wil only think of themselves and will get rid of anything that looks like a disaster to the public. _____ From: airlion <airlion@bellsouth.net> Sent: Fri, March 16, 2012 6:30:20 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun Best you check out your tornado insurance. Sun N fUN WILL NAIL YOU FOR any damage done to their property _____ From: Ben Charvet <bencharvet@gmail.com> Sent: Fri, March 16, 2012 4:20:11 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun I'm hoping to have my photogenic, well-built Pietenpol at Sun-N-Fun. Only live 70 miles away in Titusville, Fl if you'd rather see it there. Ben Charvet On 3/16/2012 9:50 AM, Ed Wischmeyer wrote: If anybody has a photogenic, well-built Pietenpol that would be an appropriate subject for a Kitplanes pilot report, please let me know. If you're flying down from the north, I live just outside Savannah, GA, and we could do the story the weekend before. thanks Ed Wischmeyer 912 665-2969 -- Ben Charvet, PharmD Staff Pharmacist Parrish Medical center " rel=nofollow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List et=_blank>http://forums.matronics.com llow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution


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    Time: 03:09:40 PM PST US
    From: "Peter W Johnson" <vk3eka@bigpond.net.au>
    Subject: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun
    Jack, Enlighten us on what happened. Was this after the damage done by the storm? Cheers Peter Wonthaggi Australia http://www.cpc-world.com From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack Phillips Sent: Sunday, 18 March 2012 7:54 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun Nope - I've flown my Pietenpol to Sun 'n' Fun once, but never again after what they did to the Pieten Pile folks. Jack Phillips NX899JP Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Frank Metcalfe Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 4:41 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun I would offer the Sun N Fun Best Fabric Homebuilt winner for 2011 but after the bill I wont be flying it down there this year or any other year. --- On Fri, 3/16/12, airlion <airlion@bellsouth.net> wrote: From: airlion <airlion@bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun sun n fun wil only think of themselves and will get rid of anything that looks like a disaster to the public. _____ From: airlion <airlion@bellsouth.net> Sent: Fri, March 16, 2012 6:30:20 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun Best you check out your tornado insurance. Sun N fUN WILL NAIL YOU FOR any damage done to their property _____ From: Ben Charvet <bencharvet@gmail.com> Sent: Fri, March 16, 2012 4:20:11 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun I'm hoping to have my photogenic, well-built Pietenpol at Sun-N-Fun. Only live 70 miles away in Titusville, Fl if you'd rather see it there. Ben Charvet On 3/16/2012 9:50 AM, Ed Wischmeyer wrote: If anybody has a photogenic, well-built Pietenpol that would be an appropriate subject for a Kitplanes pilot report, please let me know. If you're flying down from the north, I live just outside Savannah, GA, and we could do the story the weekend before. thanks Ed Wischmeyer 912 665-2969 -- Ben Charvet, PharmD Staff Pharmacist Parrish Medical center " rel=nofollow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List et=_blank>http://forums.matronics.com llow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution


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    Time: 04:18:31 PM PST US
    From: "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun
    Gardiner or Barry or Frank can answer better than I can, since it happened to them. Basically, after the storm destroyed their airplanes, they were in the process of salvaging what they could and were preparing the planes to be loaded on trailers, which were already on their way from Georgia. The officials of SNF made them stop and leave their airplanes. A private contractor, hired by SNF, then picked up the fragile, damaged aircraft with forklifts and dumped them on a trailer, causing more damage than the storm had done. Then, this summer, SNF found that their insurance would not cover the cost of the private contractor they had chosen, so they sent a letter to each of the Pietenpol owners advising them that they would have to pay close to $30,000 each, for the private contractor and the cost of cleaning up the fuel spilled by the three aircraft (one of which was empty before the storm hit) - a total of over 100 gallons! Imagine two Pietenpols holding 100 gallons of fuel between them. Of course, the owners can defend themselves in the lawsuit which will come, but it will cost them dearly to hire a lawyer. There, Peter - that's the story as I know it. I may have a detail or two confused, but essentially that's it. I think these poor pilots (who had no insurance on their aircraft as far as I know) have been very shoddily treated by the SNF officials. Frankly, I doubt I'll ever go back there, which is a shame because it used to be one of my favorite fly-ins. Jack Phillips NX899JP Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Peter W Johnson Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 6:09 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun Jack, Enlighten us on what happened. Was this after the damage done by the storm? Cheers Peter Wonthaggi Australia http://www.cpc-world.com From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack Phillips Sent: Sunday, 18 March 2012 7:54 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun Nope - I've flown my Pietenpol to Sun 'n' Fun once, but never again after what they did to the Pieten Pile folks. Jack Phillips NX899JP Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] <mailto:%5bmailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com%5d> On Behalf Of Frank Metcalfe Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 4:41 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun I would offer the Sun N Fun Best Fabric Homebuilt winner for 2011 but after the bill I wont be flying it down there this year or any other year. --- On Fri, 3/16/12, airlion <airlion@bellsouth.net> wrote: From: airlion <airlion@bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun sun n fun wil only think of themselves and will get rid of anything that looks like a disaster to the public. _____ From: airlion <airlion@bellsouth.net> Sent: Fri, March 16, 2012 6:30:20 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun Best you check out your tornado insurance. Sun N fUN WILL NAIL YOU FOR any damage done to their property _____ From: Ben Charvet <bencharvet@gmail.com> Sent: Fri, March 16, 2012 4:20:11 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun I'm hoping to have my photogenic, well-built Pietenpol at Sun-N-Fun. Only live 70 miles away in Titusville, Fl if you'd rather see it there. Ben Charvet On 3/16/2012 9:50 AM, Ed Wischmeyer wrote: If anybody has a photogenic, well-built Pietenpol that would be an appropriate subject for a Kitplanes pilot report, please let me know. If you're flying down from the north, I live just outside Savannah, GA, and we could do the story the weekend before. thanks Ed Wischmeyer 912 665-2969 -- Ben Charvet, PharmD Staff Pharmacist Parrish Medical center " rel=nofollow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List et=_blank>http://forums.matronics.com llow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution


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    Time: 04:40:35 PM PST US
    From: airlion <airlion@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun
    Well spoken Jack. I am about ready to cover 2 wings after they are fitted. Hope =0Ato fly to brodhead but if I am not ready then I will drive. You sh ould consider =0Ajoining with us(CARROLLTON EAA 696 FOR THE triple tree fl y in just after Labor =0Aday. Cheers, Gardiner=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A______________ __________________=0AFrom: Jack Phillips <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>=0ATo: pie tenpol-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Sat, March 17, 2012 7:17:31 PM=0ASubject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun=0A=0A =0AGardiner or Barry or Frank can answer better than I can, since it happened to =0At hem. Basically, after the storm destroyed their airplanes, they were in th e =0Aprocess of salvaging what they could and were preparing the planes to be loaded =0Aon trailers, which were already on their way from Georgia . T he officials of =0ASNF made them stop and leave their airplanes. A private contractor, hired by =0ASNF, then picked up the fragile, damaged aircraft with forklifts and dumped them =0Aon a trailer, causing more damage than th e storm had done. =0A=0A =0AThen, this summer, SNF found that their insura nce would not cover the cost of =0Athe private contractor they had chosen, so they sent a letter to each of the =0APietenpol owners advising them that they would have to pay close to $30,000 =0Aeach, for the private contracto r and the cost of cleaning up the fuel spilled by =0Athe three aircraft (on e of which was empty before the storm hit) =93 a total of =0Aover 100 gallons! Imagine two Pietenpols holding 100 gallons of fuel between =0Ath em.=0A =0AOf course, the owners can defend themselves in the lawsuit which will come, but =0Ait will cost them dearly to hire a lawyer.=0A =0AThere, P eter =93 that=99s the story as I know it. I may have a detail or two =0Aconfused, but essentially that=99s it. I think these poor pilots (who had no =0Ainsurance on their aircraft as far as I know) have be en very shoddily treated by =0Athe SNF officials. Frankly, I doubt I =99ll ever go back there, which is a shame =0Abecause it used to be one of my favorite fly-ins.=0A =0AJack Phillips=0ANX899JP=0ASmith Mountain Lake, V irginia=0A =0A=0A________________________________=0A =0AFrom:owner-pietenpo l-list-server@matronics.com =0A[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronic s.com] On Behalf Of Peter W Johnson=0ASent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 6:09 P M=0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com=0ASubject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Pietenp ol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun=0A =0AJack,=0A =0AEnlighten us on what happen ed. Was this after the damage done by the storm?=0A =0ACheers=0A =0APeter =0AWonthaggi Australia=0Ahttp://www.cpc-world.com=0A =0A =0A =0AFrom:owner -pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com =0A[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server @matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack Phillips=0ASent: Sunday, 18 March 2012 7: 54 AM=0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com=0ASubject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Pie tenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun=0A =0ANope =93 I=99ve flown m y Pietenpol to Sun =98n=99 Fun once, but never again after what =0Athey did to the Pieten Pile folks.=0A =0AJack Phillips=0ANX899JP=0ASmit h Mountain Lake, Virginia=0A =0A=0A________________________________=0A =0AF rom:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com =0A[mailto:owner-pietenpol-li st-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Frank Metcalfe=0ASent: Saturday, Marc h 17, 2012 4:41 PM=0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com=0ASubject: Re: Pieten pol-List: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun=0A =0AI would offer the Sun N Fun Best Fabric Homebuilt winner for 2011 but after =0Athe bill I wont be flying it down there this year or any other year. =0A=0A=0A--- On Fri, 3/16/12, airlion <airlion@bellsouth.net> wrote:=0A=0AFrom: airlion <airlio n@bellsouth.net>=0ASubject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun=0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com=0ADate: Friday, March 16, 2012 , 6:38 PM=0Asun n fun wil only think of themselves and will get rid of anything that =0Alooks like a disaster to the public.=0A =0A=0A____________ ____________________=0A =0AFrom:airlion <airlion@bellsouth.net>=0ATo: pie tenpol-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Fri, March 16, 2012 6:30:20 PM=0ASubjec t: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun=0ABest you ch eck out your tornado insurance. Sun N fUN WILL NAIL YOU FOR any =0Adamage done to their property=0A =0A=0A________________________________=0A =0AFro m:Ben Charvet <bencharvet@gmail.com>=0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Fri, March 16, 2012 4:20:11 PM=0ASubject: Pietenpol-List: Piet enpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun=0A=0AI'm hoping to have my photogenic, wel l-built Pietenpol at Sun-N-Fun. Only =0Alive 70 miles away in Titusville , Fl if you'd rather see it there.=0A=0ABen Charvet=0A=0AOn 3/16/2012 9: 50 AM, Ed Wischmeyer wrote: =0A=0AIf anybody has a photogenic, well-built P ietenpol that would be an appropriate =0Asubject for a Kitplanes pilot re port, please let me know. If you're flying =0Adown from the north, I live just outside Savannah , GA , and we could do the =0Astory the weekend b efore. =0A=0A =0Athanks=0A =0AEd Wischmeyer=0A =0A=0A912 665-2969=0A =0A =0A =0A =0A-- =0ABen Charvet, PharmD=0AStaff Pharmacist=0AParrish Medical center=0A =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A" rel=nofollow target=_blank>http://w ww.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List=0Aet=_blank>http://forums.matro nics.com=0Allow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution=0A =0A =0A =0A =0A =0Ahttp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List=0A =0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com=0A =0Ahttp://www.matronics.com/contributio n=0A =0A =0A =0Ahref="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-Lis t">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List=0A href="http://foru ms.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com =0Ahref="http://www.matroni ======== =0A


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    Time: 04:57:25 PM PST US
    From: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB" <steven.d.dortch@us.army.mil>
    Subject: Re: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun
    What is the EAA relationship to Sun n Fun? Steve D ----- Original Message ----- From: airlion <airlion@bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun > Well spoken Jack. I am about ready to cover 2 wings after they are > fitted. Hope > to fly to brodhead but if I am not ready then I will drive. You > should consider > joining with us(CARROLLTON EAA 696 FOR THE triple tree fly in just > after Labor > day. Cheers, Gardiner > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Jack Phillips < > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Sent: Sat, March 17, 2012 7:17:31 PM > Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun > > > Gardiner or Barry or Frank can answer better than I can, since it happened to > them. Basically, after the storm destroyed their airplanes, they were in the > process of salvaging what they could and were preparing the planes to be loaded > on trailers, which were already on their way from Georgia . The officials of > SNF made them stop and leave their airplanes. A private contractor, hired by > SNF, then picked up the fragile, damaged aircraft with forklifts and dumped them > on a trailer, causing more damage than the storm had done. > > > Then, this summer, SNF found that their insurance would not cover the cost of > the private contractor they had chosen, so they sent a letter to each of the > Pietenpol owners advising them that they would have to pay close to $30,000 > each, for the private contractor and the cost of cleaning up the fuel spilled by > the three aircraft (one of which was empty before the storm hit) a total of > over 100 gallons! Imagine two Pietenpols holding 100 gallons of fuel between > them. > > Of course, the owners can defend themselves in the lawsuit which will come, but > it will cost them dearly to hire a lawyer. > > There, Peter thats the story as I know it. I may have a detail or two > confused, but essentially thats it. I think these poor pilots (who had no > insurance on their aircraft as far as I know) have been very shoddily treated by > the SNF officials. Frankly, I doubt Ill ever go back there, which is a shame > because it used to be one of my favorite fly-ins. > > Jack Phillips > NX899JP > Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia > > > ________________________________ > > From:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Peter W Johnson > Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 6:09 PM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun > > Jack, > > Enlighten us on what happened. Was this after the damage done by the storm? > > Cheers > > Peter > Wonthaggi Australia > http://www.cpc-world.com > > > > From:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack Phillips > Sent: Sunday, 18 March 2012 7:54 AM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun > > Nope Ive flown my Pietenpol to Sun n Fun once, but never again after what > they did to the Pieten Pile folks. > > Jack Phillips > NX899JP > Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia > > > ________________________________ > > From:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Frank Metcalfe > Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 4:41 PM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun > > I would offer the Sun N Fun Best Fabric Homebuilt winner for 2011 but after > the bill I wont be flying it down there this year or any other year. > > > --- On Fri, 3/16/12, airlion < wrote: > > From: airlion < > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Date: Friday, March 16, 2012, 6:38 PM > sun n fun wil only think of themselves and will get rid of anything that > looks like a disaster to the public. > > > ________________________________ > > From:airlion < > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Sent: Fri, March 16, 2012 6:30:20 PM > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun > Best you check out your tornado insurance. Sun N fUN WILL NAIL YOU FOR any > damage done to their property > > > ________________________________ > > From:Ben Charvet < > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Sent: Fri, March 16, 2012 4:20:11 PM > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun > > I'm hoping to have my photogenic, well-built Pietenpol at Sun-N-Fun. Only > live 70 miles away in Titusville , Fl if you'd rather see it there. > > Ben Charvet > > On 3/16/2012 9:50 AM, Ed Wischmeyer wrote: > > If anybody has a photogenic, well-built Pietenpol that would be an appropriate > subject for a Kitplanes pilot report, please let me know. If you're flying > down from the north, I live just outside Savannah , GA , and we could do the > story the weekend before. > > > thanks > > Ed Wischmeyer > > > 912 665-2969 > > > > > -- > Ben Charvet, PharmD > Staff Pharmacist > Parrish Medical center > > > > > > " rel=nofollow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > et=_blank>http://forums.matronics.com > llow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > > http://forums.matronics.com > > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > > href="blockedhttp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > href="blockedhttp://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="blockedhttp://www.matroni========


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    Time: 05:00:29 PM PST US
    From: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB" <steven.d.dortch@us.army.mil>
    Subject: Re: Landing Gear V question
    Oscar, a the risk of showing my ignorance, how much effect could it have? the LG are just about at the pivot point of the aircraft. Steve, "not an aerodynamacyst" D ----- Original Message ----- From: taildrags <taildrags@hotmail.com> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Landing Gear V question > > At the risk of muddying up the water without really knowing what I'm talking about, I will mention that I remember someone saying that > covering the landing gear vees would degrade the airplane's rudder > authority by adding flat surface to the side. > > Maybe we need a "Snopes" myth-buster for this list? > > -------- > Oscar Zuniga > Medford, OR > Air Camper NX41CC &quot;Scout&quot; > A75 power > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=368775#368775 > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 05:36:19 PM PST US
    From: Hans van der Voort <nx15kv@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun
    There you go, That's a story for kit planes, but I doubt it will ever end u p in print=0A=C2-=0AHans=0A=C2-=0ANX15KV=0AWaller, TX=0A=0AFrom: Jack P hillips <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>=0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com =0ASent : Saturday, March 17, 2012 6:17 PM=0ASubject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun=0A=0AGardiner or Barry=C2- or Frank can answe r better than I can, since it happened to them.=C2- Basically, after the storm destroyed their airplanes, they were in the process of salvaging what they could and were preparing the planes to be loaded on trailers, which w ere already on their way from Georgia .=C2- The officials of SNF made the m stop and leave their airplanes.=C2- A private contractor, hired by SNF, then picked up the fragile, damaged aircraft with forklifts and dumped the m on a trailer, causing more damage than the storm had done.=C2- =0A=C2 -=0AThen, this summer, SNF found that their insurance would not cover the cost of the private contractor they had chosen, so they sent a letter to e ach of the Pietenpol owners advising them that they would have to pay close to $30,000 each, for the private contractor and the cost of cleaning up th e fuel spilled by the three aircraft (one of which was empty before the sto rm hit) =93 a total of over 100 gallons!=C2- Imagine two Pietenpols holding 100 gallons of fuel between them.=0A=C2-=0AOf course, the owners can defend themselves in the lawsuit which will come, but it will cost the m dearly to hire a lawyer.=0A=C2-=0AThere, Peter =93 that=99s the story as I know it.=C2- I may have a detail or two confused, but ess entially that=99s it.=C2- I think these poor pilots (who had no ins urance on their aircraft as far as I know) have been very shoddily treated by the SNF officials.=C2- Frankly, I doubt I=99ll ever go back ther e, which is a shame because it used to be one of my favorite fly-ins.=0A=C2 -=0AJack Phillips=0ANX899JP=0ASmith Mountain Lake, Virginia=0A=C2-=0AFr om:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-s erver@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Peter W Johnson=0ASent: Saturday, March 1 7, 2012 6:09 PM=0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com=0ASubject: RE: Pietenpol -List: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun=0A=C2-=0AJack,=0A=C2-=0AEnl ighten us on what happened. Was this after the damage done by the storm?=0A =C2-=0ACheers=0A=C2-=0APeter=0AWonthaggi Australia=0Ahttp://www.cpc-wor ld.com=0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0AFrom:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matron ics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jac k Phillips=0ASent: Sunday, 18 March 2012 7:54 AM=0ATo: pietenpol-list@matro nics.com=0ASubject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fu n=0A=C2-=0ANope =93 I=99ve flown my Pietenpol to Sun =98n=99 Fun once, but never again after what they did to the Pieten P ile folks.=0A=C2-=0AJack Phillips=0ANX899JP=0ASmith Mountain Lake, Virgin ia=0A=C2-=0AFrom:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner- pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Frank Metcalfe=0ASent: Sa turday, March 17, 2012 4:41 PM=0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com=0ASubject : Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun=0A=C2-=0AI wou ld offer the Sun N Fun Best Fabric Homebuilt winner for 2011 but after the bill I wont be flying it down there this year or any other year. =0A=0A--- On Fri, 3/16/12, airlion <airlion@bellsouth.net> wrote:=0A=0AFrom: airlion <airlion@bellsouth.net>=0ASubject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol for Kitpla nes at Sun n Fun=0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com=0ADate: Friday, March 1 6, 2012, 6:38 PM=0Asun n fun=C2- wil only think of themselves and will=C2 - get rid of anything that looks like a disaster to the public.=0A=C2- =0AFrom:airlion <airlion@bellsouth.net>=0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Fri, March 16, 2012 6:30:20 PM=0ASubject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Piet enpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun=0ABest you check out your tornado insuranc e. Sun N fUN WILL NAIL YOU FOR any damage done to their property=0A=C2- =0AFrom:Ben Charvet <bencharvet@gmail.com>=0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.c om=0ASent: Fri, March 16, 2012 4:20:11 PM=0ASubject: Pietenpol-List: Pieten pol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun=0A=0AI'm hoping to have my photogenic, well- built Pietenpol at Sun-N-Fun.=C2- Only live 70 miles away in Titusville , Fl if you'd rather see it there.=0A=0ABen Charvet=0A=0AOn 3/16/2012 9:50 A M, Ed Wischmeyer wrote: =0A=0AIf anybody has a photogenic, well-built Piete npol that would be an appropriate subject for a Kitplanes pilot report, ple ase let me know. If you're flying down from the north, I live just outside Savannah , GA , and we could do the story the weekend before. =0A=C2-=0At hanks=0A=C2-=0AEd Wischmeyer=0A=C2-=0A=0A912 665-2969=0A=C2-=0A=C2- =0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0A-- =0ABen Charvet, PharmD=0AStaff Pharmacist=0AParrish Medical center=0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0A" rel=nofo llow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List=0Aet =_blank>http://forums.matronics.com=0Allow target=_blank>http://www.mat ronics.com/contribution=0A=C2- =0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0Ahtt p://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List=0A=C2-=0Ahttp://forums.mat ronics.com=0A=C2-=0Ahttp://www.matronics.com/contribution=0A=C2-=0A=C2 -=0Ahref="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www .matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-Listhref="http://forums.matronics.c om">http://forums.matronics.comhref="http://www.matronics.com/contribu ==


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    Time: 05:50:48 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun
    From: Ben Charvet <bencharvet@gmail.com>
    EAA doesn't have any ties to SNF anymore. Its run by a corp. Sorry to have brought such a bad memory back. I was there during the tornado last year and bad weather on the Tues before is the only reason my Piet wasnt in the "pile". Still , flyin there has been on my bucket list since long before I bought my plans..... Ben Sent from my iPhone On Mar 17, 2012, at 7:57 PM, "Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB" <steven.d.dortch@us.army.mil> wrote: > > What is the EAA relationship to Sun n Fun? > > Steve D > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: airlion <airlion@bellsouth.net> > Date: Saturday, March 17, 2012 18:46 > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > > >> Well spoken Jack. I am about ready to cover 2 wings after they are >> fitted. Hope >> to fly to brodhead but if I am not ready then I will drive. You >> should consider >> joining with us(CARROLLTON EAA 696 FOR THE triple tree fly in just >> after Labor >> day. Cheers, Gardiner >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Jack Phillips < >> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >> Sent: Sat, March 17, 2012 7:17:31 PM >> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun >> >> >> Gardiner or Barry or Frank can answer better than I can, since it happened to >> them. Basically, after the storm destroyed their airplanes, they were in the >> process of salvaging what they could and were preparing the planes to be loaded >> on trailers, which were already on their way from Georgia . The officials of >> SNF made them stop and leave their airplanes. A private contractor, hired by >> SNF, then picked up the fragile, damaged aircraft with forklifts and dumped them >> on a trailer, causing more damage than the storm had done. >> >> >> Then, this summer, SNF found that their insurance would not cover the cost of >> the private contractor they had chosen, so they sent a letter to each of the >> Pietenpol owners advising them that they would have to pay close to $30,000 >> each, for the private contractor and the cost of cleaning up the fuel spilled by >> the three aircraft (one of which was empty before the storm hit) a total of >> over 100 gallons! Imagine two Pietenpols holding 100 gallons of fuel between >> them. >> >> Of course, the owners can defend themselves in the lawsuit which will come, but >> it will cost them dearly to hire a lawyer. >> >> There, Peter thats the story as I know it. I may have a detail or two >> confused, but essentially thats it. I think these poor pilots (who had no >> insurance on their aircraft as far as I know) have been very shoddily treated by >> the SNF officials. Frankly, I doubt Ill ever go back there, which is a shame >> because it used to be one of my favorite fly-ins. >> >> Jack Phillips >> NX899JP >> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Peter W Johnson >> Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 6:09 PM >> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun >> >> Jack, >> >> Enlighten us on what happened. Was this after the damage done by the storm? >> >> Cheers >> >> Peter >> Wonthaggi Australia >> http://www.cpc-world.com >> >> >> >> From:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack Phillips >> Sent: Sunday, 18 March 2012 7:54 AM >> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun >> >> Nope Ive flown my Pietenpol to Sun n Fun once, but never again after what >> they did to the Pieten Pile folks. >> >> Jack Phillips >> NX899JP >> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Frank Metcalfe >> Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 4:41 PM >> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun >> >> I would offer the Sun N Fun Best Fabric Homebuilt winner for 2011 but after >> the bill I wont be flying it down there this year or any other year. >> >> >> --- On Fri, 3/16/12, airlion < wrote: >> >> From: airlion < >> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun >> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >> Date: Friday, March 16, 2012, 6:38 PM >> sun n fun wil only think of themselves and will get rid of anything that >> looks like a disaster to the public. >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From:airlion < >> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >> Sent: Fri, March 16, 2012 6:30:20 PM >> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun >> Best you check out your tornado insurance. Sun N fUN WILL NAIL YOU FOR any >> damage done to their property >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From:Ben Charvet < >> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >> Sent: Fri, March 16, 2012 4:20:11 PM >> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun >> >> I'm hoping to have my photogenic, well-built Pietenpol at Sun-N-Fun. Only >> live 70 miles away in Titusville , Fl if you'd rather see it there. >> >> Ben Charvet >> >> On 3/16/2012 9:50 AM, Ed Wischmeyer wrote: >> >> If anybody has a photogenic, well-built Pietenpol that would be an appropriate >> subject for a Kitplanes pilot report, please let me know. If you're flying >> down from the north, I live just outside Savannah , GA , and we could do the >> story the weekend before. >> >> >> thanks >> >> Ed Wischmeyer >> >> >> 912 665-2969 >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Ben Charvet, PharmD >> Staff Pharmacist >> Parrish Medical center >> >> >> >> >> >> " rel=nofollow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List >> et=_blank>http://forums.matronics.com >> llow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> >> >> >> >> >> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List >> >> http://forums.matronics.com >> >> http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> >> >> >> href="blockedhttp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List >> href="blockedhttp://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com >> href="blockedhttp://www.matroni======== > > > > >


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    Time: 06:09:40 PM PST US
    From: "Peter W Johnson" <vk3eka@bigpond.net.au>
    Subject: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun
    Thanks Jack, Not a good story. I wonder why it never made it into the public arena. This is the first I have heard of it. Cheers Peter From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack Phillips Sent: Sunday, 18 March 2012 10:18 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun Gardiner or Barry or Frank can answer better than I can, since it happened to them. Basically, after the storm destroyed their airplanes, they were in the process of salvaging what they could and were preparing the planes to be loaded on trailers, which were already on their way from Georgia. The officials of SNF made them stop and leave their airplanes. A private contractor, hired by SNF, then picked up the fragile, damaged aircraft with forklifts and dumped them on a trailer, causing more damage than the storm had done. Then, this summer, SNF found that their insurance would not cover the cost of the private contractor they had chosen, so they sent a letter to each of the Pietenpol owners advising them that they would have to pay close to $30,000 each, for the private contractor and the cost of cleaning up the fuel spilled by the three aircraft (one of which was empty before the storm hit) - a total of over 100 gallons! Imagine two Pietenpols holding 100 gallons of fuel between them. Of course, the owners can defend themselves in the lawsuit which will come, but it will cost them dearly to hire a lawyer. There, Peter - that's the story as I know it. I may have a detail or two confused, but essentially that's it. I think these poor pilots (who had no insurance on their aircraft as far as I know) have been very shoddily treated by the SNF officials. Frankly, I doubt I'll ever go back there, which is a shame because it used to be one of my favorite fly-ins. Jack Phillips NX899JP Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Peter W Johnson Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 6:09 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun Jack, Enlighten us on what happened. Was this after the damage done by the storm? Cheers Peter Wonthaggi Australia http://www.cpc-world.com From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack Phillips Sent: Sunday, 18 March 2012 7:54 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun Nope - I've flown my Pietenpol to Sun 'n' Fun once, but never again after what they did to the Pieten Pile folks. Jack Phillips NX899JP Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] <mailto:%5bmailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com%5d> On Behalf Of Frank Metcalfe Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 4:41 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun I would offer the Sun N Fun Best Fabric Homebuilt winner for 2011 but after the bill I wont be flying it down there this year or any other year. --- On Fri, 3/16/12, airlion <airlion@bellsouth.net> wrote: From: airlion <airlion@bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun sun n fun wil only think of themselves and will get rid of anything that looks like a disaster to the public. _____ From: airlion <airlion@bellsouth.net> Sent: Fri, March 16, 2012 6:30:20 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun Best you check out your tornado insurance. Sun N fUN WILL NAIL YOU FOR any damage done to their property _____ From: Ben Charvet <bencharvet@gmail.com> Sent: Fri, March 16, 2012 4:20:11 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun I'm hoping to have my photogenic, well-built Pietenpol at Sun-N-Fun. Only live 70 miles away in Titusville, Fl if you'd rather see it there. Ben Charvet On 3/16/2012 9:50 AM, Ed Wischmeyer wrote: If anybody has a photogenic, well-built Pietenpol that would be an appropriate subject for a Kitplanes pilot report, please let me know. If you're flying down from the north, I live just outside Savannah, GA, and we could do the story the weekend before. thanks Ed Wischmeyer 912 665-2969 -- Ben Charvet, PharmD Staff Pharmacist Parrish Medical center " rel=nofollow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List et=_blank>http://forums.matronics.com llow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.matronic s.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c


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    Time: 06:18:14 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun
    From: Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com>
    >From what I learned from individuals that had been there through the years, there is none; it was suggested that move was tied in with the group that forced Billy Henderson out.... do not archive On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 6:57 PM, Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB < steven.d.dortch@us.army.mil> wrote: > steven.d.dortch@us.army.mil> > > What is the EAA relationship to Sun n Fun? > > Steve D > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: airlion <airlion@bellsouth.net> > Date: Saturday, March 17, 2012 18:46 > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > > > > Well spoken Jack. I am about ready to cover 2 wings after they are > > fitted. Hope > > to fly to brodhead but if I am not ready then I will drive. You > > should consider > > joining with us(CARROLLTON EAA 696 FOR THE triple tree fly in just > > after Labor > > day. Cheers, Gardiner > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Jack Phillips < > > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > > Sent: Sat, March 17, 2012 7:17:31 PM > > Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun > > > > > > Gardiner or Barry or Frank can answer better than I can, since it > happened to > > them. Basically, after the storm destroyed their airplanes, they were > in the > > process of salvaging what they could and were preparing the planes to b e > loaded > > on trailers, which were already on their way from Georgia . The > officials of > > SNF made them stop and leave their airplanes. A private contractor, > hired by > > SNF, then picked up the fragile, damaged aircraft with forklifts and > dumped them > > on a trailer, causing more damage than the storm had done. > > > > > > Then, this summer, SNF found that their insurance would not cover the > cost of > > the private contractor they had chosen, so they sent a letter to each o f > the > > Pietenpol owners advising them that they would have to pay close to > $30,000 > > each, for the private contractor and the cost of cleaning up the fuel > spilled by > > the three aircraft (one of which was empty before the storm hit) ' a > total of > > over 100 gallons! Imagine two Pietenpols holding 100 gallons of fuel > between > > them. > > > > Of course, the owners can defend themselves in the lawsuit which will > come, but > > it will cost them dearly to hire a lawyer. > > > > There, Peter ' that=92s the story as I know it. I may have a detail or two > > confused, but essentially that=92s it. I think these poor pilots (who had > no > > insurance on their aircraft as far as I know) have been very shoddily > treated by > > the SNF officials. Frankly, I doubt I=92ll ever go back there, which i s a > shame > > because it used to be one of my favorite fly-ins. > > > > Jack Phillips > > NX899JP > > Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Peter W > Johnson > > Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 6:09 PM > > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > > Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun > > > > Jack, > > > > Enlighten us on what happened. Was this after the damage done by the > storm? > > > > Cheers > > > > Peter > > Wonthaggi Australia > > http://www.cpc-world.com > > > > > > > > From:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack > Phillips > > Sent: Sunday, 18 March 2012 7:54 AM > > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > > Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun > > > > Nope ' I=92ve flown my Pietenpol to Sun =91n=92 Fun once, but never a gain > after what > > they did to the Pieten Pile folks. > > > > Jack Phillips > > NX899JP > > Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Frank > Metcalfe > > Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 4:41 PM > > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun > > > > I would offer the Sun N Fun Best Fabric Homebuilt winner for 2011 but > after > > the bill I wont be flying it down there this year or any other year. > > > > > > --- On Fri, 3/16/12, airlion < wrote: > > > > From: airlion < > > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun > > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > > Date: Friday, March 16, 2012, 6:38 PM > > sun n fun wil only think of themselves and will get rid of anything > that > > looks like a disaster to the public. > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From:airlion < > > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > > Sent: Fri, March 16, 2012 6:30:20 PM > > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun > > Best you check out your tornado insurance. Sun N fUN WILL NAIL YOU FO R > any > > damage done to their property > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From:Ben Charvet < > > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > > Sent: Fri, March 16, 2012 4:20:11 PM > > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun > > > > I'm hoping to have my photogenic, well-built Pietenpol at Sun-N-Fun. > Only > > live 70 miles away in Titusville , Fl if you'd rather see it there. > > > > Ben Charvet > > > > On 3/16/2012 9:50 AM, Ed Wischmeyer wrote: > > > > If anybody has a photogenic, well-built Pietenpol that would be an > appropriate > > subject for a Kitplanes pilot report, please let me know. If you're > flying > > down from the north, I live just outside Savannah , GA , and we coul d > do the > > story the weekend before. > > > > > > thanks > > > > Ed Wischmeyer > > > > > > 912 665-2969 > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Ben Charvet, PharmD > > Staff Pharmacist > > Parrish Medical center > > > > > > > > > > > > " rel=nofollow target=_blank> > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > > et=_blank>http://forums.matronics.com > > llow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > > > > http://forums.matronics.com > > > > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > > > > > > href="blockedhttp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List"> > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > > href="blockedhttp://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > > href="blockedhttp://www.matroni======= > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > >


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    Time: 06:24:11 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: handheld radio question
    From: Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com>
    An iPad velcro'ed to the dash does not really count as a glass panel.... do not archive On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 1:44 PM, kevinpurtee <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>wrote: > kevin.purtee@us.army.mil> > > How do you expect to get into LaGuardia, Larry? > > Can't wait to show you the new glass panel in fat bottom girl at Brodhead > this year. > > do not archive > > -------- > Kevin &quot;Axel&quot; Purtee > NX899KP > Austin/Georgetown, TX > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=368774#368774 > >


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    Time: 06:31:27 PM PST US
    From: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB" <steven.d.dortch@us.army.mil>
    Subject: Re: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun
    Ben, I went to the SNF site and the EAA is not mentioned, however AOPA is a Platinum supporter. I will prod AOPA on this. If SNF is "attacking" aircraft owners, then they will not be getting my money. If AOPA is supporting someone who is "attacking' Aircraft owners, then I will ride them hard. When I get more info on this I will be letting both my current EAA chapter know what the deal is and my previous one. In a way this is similar to blaming the victim of a sexual assault for the attack and making them pay for the police time and ambulance ride. Blue Skies, Steve D ----- Original Message ----- From: Ben Charvet <bencharvet@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun > > EAA doesn't have any ties to SNF anymore. Its run by a corp. Sorry to have brought such a bad memory back. I was there during the tornado > last year and bad weather on the Tues before is the only reason my > Piet wasnt in the "pile". Still , flyin there has been on my bucket > list since long before I bought my plans..... > Ben > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 17, 2012, at 7:57 PM, "Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB" < wrote: > > > > > What is the EAA relationship to Sun n Fun? > > > > Steve D > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: airlion < > > Date: Saturday, March 17, 2012 18:46 > > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun > > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > > > > > >> Well spoken Jack. I am about ready to cover 2 wings after they are > >> fitted. Hope > >> to fly to brodhead but if I am not ready then I will drive. You > >> should consider > >> joining with us(CARROLLTON EAA 696 FOR THE triple tree fly in just > >> after Labor > >> day. Cheers, Gardiner > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ________________________________ > >> From: Jack Phillips <>> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > >> Sent: Sat, March 17, 2012 7:17:31 PM > >> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun > >> > >> > >> Gardiner or Barry or Frank can answer better than I can, since it happened to > >> them. Basically, after the storm destroyed their airplanes, they were in the > >> process of salvaging what they could and were preparing the planes to be loaded > >> on trailers, which were already on their way from Georgia . The officials of > >> SNF made them stop and leave their airplanes. A private contractor, hired by > >> SNF, then picked up the fragile, damaged aircraft with forklifts and dumped them > >> on a trailer, causing more damage than the storm had done. > >> > >> > >> Then, this summer, SNF found that their insurance would not cover the cost of > >> the private contractor they had chosen, so they sent a letter to each of the > >> Pietenpol owners advising them that they would have to pay close to $30,000 > >> each, for the private contractor and the cost of cleaning up the fuel spilled by > >> the three aircraft (one of which was empty before the storm hit) a total of > >> over 100 gallons! Imagine two Pietenpols holding 100 gallons of fuel between > >> them. > >> > >> Of course, the owners can defend themselves in the lawsuit which will come, but > >> it will cost them dearly to hire a lawyer. > >> > >> There, Peter thats the story as I know it. I may have a detail or two > >> confused, but essentially thats it. I think these poor pilots (who had no > >> insurance on their aircraft as far as I know) have been very shoddily treated by > >> the SNF officials. Frankly, I doubt Ill ever go back there, which is a shame > >> because it used to be one of my favorite fly-ins. > >> > >> Jack Phillips > >> NX899JP > >> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia > >> > >> > >> ________________________________ > >> > >> From:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > >> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Peter W Johnson > >> Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 6:09 PM > >> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > >> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun > >> > >> Jack, > >> > >> Enlighten us on what happened. Was this after the damage done by the storm? > >> > >> Cheers > >> > >> Peter > >> Wonthaggi Australia > >> http://www.cpc-world.com > >> > >> > >> > >> From:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > >> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack Phillips > >> Sent: Sunday, 18 March 2012 7:54 AM > >> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > >> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun > >> > >> Nope Ive flown my Pietenpol to Sun n Fun once, but never again after what > >> they did to the Pieten Pile folks. > >> > >> Jack Phillips > >> NX899JP > >> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia > >> > >> > >> ________________________________ > >> > >> From:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > >> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Frank Metcalfe > >> Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 4:41 PM > >> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > >> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun > >> > >> I would offer the Sun N Fun Best Fabric Homebuilt winner for 2011 but after > >> the bill I wont be flying it down there this year or any other year. > >> > >> > >> --- On Fri, 3/16/12, airlion <>> > >> From: airlion <>> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun > >> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > >> Date: Friday, March 16, 2012, 6:38 PM > >> sun n fun wil only think of themselves and will get rid of anything that > >> looks like a disaster to the public. > >> > >> > >> ________________________________ > >> > >> From:airlion <>> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > >> Sent: Fri, March 16, 2012 6:30:20 PM > >> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun > >> Best you check out your tornado insurance. Sun N fUN WILL NAIL YOU FOR any > >> damage done to their property > >> > >> > >> ________________________________ > >> > >> From:Ben Charvet <>> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > >> Sent: Fri, March 16, 2012 4:20:11 PM > >> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun > >> > >> I'm hoping to have my photogenic, well-built Pietenpol at Sun-N-Fun. Only > >> live 70 miles away in Titusville , Fl if you'd rather see it there. > >> > >> Ben Charvet > >> > >> On 3/16/2012 9:50 AM, Ed Wischmeyer wrote: > >> > >> If anybody has a photogenic, well-built Pietenpol that would be an appropriate > >> subject for a Kitplanes pilot report, please let me know. If you're flying > >> down from the north, I live just outside Savannah , GA , and we could do the > >> story the weekend before. > >> > >> > >> thanks > >> > >> Ed Wischmeyer > >> > >> > >> 912 665-2969 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Ben Charvet, PharmD > >> Staff Pharmacist > >> Parrish Medical center > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> " rel=nofollow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > >> et=_blank>http://forums.matronics.com > >> llow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > >> > >> http://forums.matronics.com > >> > >> http://www.matronics.com/contribution > >> > >> > >> > >> href="blockedhttp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > >> href="blockedhttp://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > >> href="blockedhttp://www.matroni======== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 06:34:55 PM PST US
    From: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB" <steven.d.dortch@us.army.mil>
    Subject: Re: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun
    I fired the email below to the author of this piece (http://www.eaa.org/news/2011/2011-04-01_aftermath.asp) I will report the answer. Steve D ----- Original Message ----- >From <steven.d.dortch@us.army.mil> Date Sat, 17 Mar 2012 18:55:12 -0500 To mjones@eaa.org Subject Question on Sun N Fun suing Pietenpol owners. Dear Ms. Jones, I noticed that you wrote an article called "Sun N Fun, the Aftermath". is the following true? Basically, after the storm destroyed their airplanes, the pietenpol owners whose planes were destroyed by the tornado were in the process of salvaging what they could and were preparing the planes to be loaded on trailers, which were already on their way from Georgia. The officials of SNF made them stop and leave their airplanes. A private contractor, hired by SNF, then picked up the fragile, damaged aircraft with forklifts and dumped them on a trailer, causing more damage than the storm had done. Then, this summer, SNF found that their insurance would not cover the cost of the private contractor they had chosen, so they sent a letter to each of the Pietenpol owners advising them that they would have to pay close to $30,000 each, for the private contractor and the cost of cleaning up the fuel spilled by the three aircraft (one of which was empty before the storm hit) a total of over 100 gallons! Imagine two Pietenpols holding 100 gallons of fuel between them. Of course, the owners can defend themselves in the lawsuit which will come, but it will cost them dearly to hire a lawyer. If true, then I think these poor pilots (who had no insurance on their aircraft as far as I know) have been very shoddily treated by the SNF officials. Frankly, I doubt Ill ever go to SNF if this is true, which is a shame because it was one of my personal goals to fly to SNF. How is SNF associated with EAA? If the EAA is part to this then I will leave the EAA and ensure that all the members of my local EAA chapter know why. V/R Steve Dortch EAA #: 556893 ----- Original Message ----- From: Hans van der Voort <nx15kv@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun > There you go, That's a story for kit planes, but I doubt it will > ever end up in print > > Hans > > NX15KV > Waller, TX > > From: Jack Phillips < > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 6:17 PM > Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun > > Gardiner or Barry or Frank can answer better than I can, since it happened to them. Basically, after the storm destroyed their airplanes, they were in the process of salvaging what they could and were preparing the planes to be loaded on > trailers, which were already on their way from Georgia . The > officials of SNF made them stop and leave their airplanes. A > private contractor, hired by SNF, then picked up the fragile, > damaged aircraft with forklifts and dumped them on a trailer, > causing more damage than the storm had done. > > Then, this summer, SNF found that their insurance would not cover > the cost of the private contractor they had chosen, so they sent a > letter to each of the Pietenpol owners advising them that they > would have to pay close to $30,000 each, for the private contractor > and the cost of cleaning up the fuel spilled by the three aircraft > (one of which was empty before the storm hit) a total of over 100 > gallons! Imagine two Pietenpols holding 100 gallons of fuel > between them. > > Of course, the owners can defend themselves in the lawsuit which > will come, but it will cost them dearly to hire a lawyer. > > There, Peter thats the story as I know it. I may have a detail > or two confused, but essentially thats it. I think these poor > pilots (who had no insurance on their aircraft as far as I know) > have been very shoddily treated by the SNF officials. Frankly, I > doubt Ill ever go back there, which is a shame because it used to > be one of my favorite fly-ins. > > Jack Phillips > NX899JP > Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia > > From:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner- > pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Peter W Johnson > Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 6:09 PM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun > > Jack, > > Enlighten us on what happened. Was this after the damage done by > the storm? > > Cheers > > Peter > Wonthaggi Australia > http://www.cpc-world.com > > > > From:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner- > pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack Phillips > Sent: Sunday, 18 March 2012 7:54 AM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun > > Nope Ive flown my Pietenpol to Sun n Fun once, but never again > after what they did to the Pieten Pile folks. > > Jack Phillips > NX899JP > Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia > > From:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner- > pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Frank Metcalfe > Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 4:41 PM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun > > I would offer the Sun N Fun Best Fabric Homebuilt winner for 2011 > but after the bill I wont be flying it down there this year or any > other year. > > --- On Fri, 3/16/12, airlion < wrote: > > From: airlion < > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Date: Friday, March 16, 2012, 6:38 PM > sun n fun wil only think of themselves and will get rid of anything that looks like a disaster to the public. > > From:airlion < > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Sent: Fri, March 16, 2012 6:30:20 PM > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun > Best you check out your tornado insurance. Sun N fUN WILL NAIL YOU FOR any damage done to their property > > From:Ben Charvet < > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Sent: Fri, March 16, 2012 4:20:11 PM > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun > > I'm hoping to have my photogenic, well-built Pietenpol at Sun-N-Fun. Only live 70 miles away in Titusville , Fl if you'd rather see it there. > > Ben Charvet > > On 3/16/2012 9:50 AM, Ed Wischmeyer wrote: > > If anybody has a photogenic, well-built Pietenpol that would be an appropriate subject for a Kitplanes pilot report, please let me know. If you're flying down from the north, I live just outside Savannah , GA , and we could do the story the weekend before. > > thanks > > Ed Wischmeyer > > > 912 665-2969 > > > > > -- > Ben Charvet, PharmD > Staff Pharmacist > Parrish Medical center > > > > > > " rel=nofollow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > et=_blank>http://forums.matronics.com > llow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > > http://forums.matronics.com > > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > href="blockedhttp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > href="blockedhttp://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="blockedhttp://www.matronics.com/contribu==


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    Time: 08:14:21 PM PST US
    From: Jim Markle <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Aluminum 8 plug Model A head for sale
    More shop cleaning....I have a "high" compression (6.7:1 I think) Model A head for sale. Never has been used. Just been sitting collecting dust. Sorta like that fancy Thomas Finned style Mac's sells...but without the fins (or high $$$ cost). I have no idea what it's worth but will consider all offers... JM


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    Time: 09:36:14 PM PST US
    From: shad bell <aviatorbell@yahoo.com>
    Subject: started annual inspection early
    Well as luck would have it I didn't get to fly today.- Started out planni ng to change the oil and go flying.- Took the piet out of hybernation, sh e fired right up 2 blades, and purred like a kitten.- Pushed it back in t he hangar and took the cowling off and looked around.- I noticed the carb heat box had paint peeling and sure enough it was cracked.- We had a bro ken weld in it a couple years ago that we repaired but it craked again, in a bad area to try to repair.- Time to order another, so we can get in the air, fix the old one later.- I am going to replace the wing strut hardwa re (bolts)-with new, this is flying season #7, and 300 hrs, so it is chea p insurance.- Also have to take off some of the tail fittings to repaint them, Dad used POR 15 paint, And I found out from a classic car guy that it does not hold up to UV rays (peels right off to bare metal).- Other than that, engine looks good, compression checks good, no extra oil leaks, and no house paint is blowing off.- Hopefully I can get it wrapped up in a coup le weekends, which is when winter will probably come back with a vengence. - Also started making up a annual inspection checklist for a piet, I will attatch for whoever wants to look at it.- Feel free to modify it for you r own piet. Shad




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