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1. 04:56 AM - Re: Aluminum 8 plug Model A head for sale (helspersew@aol.com)
2. 06:10 AM - Re: Aluminum 8 plug Model A head for sale (Jim Markle)
3. 06:14 AM - Re: started annual inspection early (Ken Bickers)
4. 08:52 AM - St. Patty's @ Jim Boyer's (Gary Boothe)
5. 09:53 AM - Re: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun (Michael Perez)
6. 09:59 AM - Re: started annual inspection early (Michael Perez)
7. 10:12 AM - Re: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun (jarheadpilot82)
8. 11:01 AM - Corvair core for sale (Ameet Savant)
9. 11:08 AM - Re: Re: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun (Jack Phillips)
10. 11:33 AM - Re: Re: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun (Kip and Beth Gardner)
11. 11:41 AM - Pietenpols at Sun-n-Fun (Ed Wischmeyer)
12. 02:39 PM - Brodhead W&B info (Lawrence Williams)
13. 02:54 PM - Re: Brodhead W&B info (kevinpurtee)
14. 02:54 PM - Re: Brodhead W&B info (kevinpurtee)
15. 03:07 PM - Re: handheld radio question (jarheadpilot82)
16. 04:34 PM - Re: Pietenpols at Sun-n-Fun (tools)
17. 06:30 PM - Lift struts (Rick Schreiber)
18. 06:32 PM - Larry William's un-radio eqiupped Piet (Douwe Blumberg)
19. 09:24 PM - sold....: Aluminum 8 plug Model A head for sale (Jim Markle)
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| Subject: | Re: Aluminum 8 plug Model A head for sale |
Jim,
Ken Perkins was looking for one of those.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Markle <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
Sent: Sat, Mar 17, 2012 10:15 pm
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Aluminum 8 plug Model A head for sale
More shop cleaning....I have a "high" compression (6.7:1 I think) Model A h
ead
for sale.
Never has been used. Just been sitting collecting dust.
Sorta like that fancy Thomas Finned style Mac's sells...but without the fin
s (or
high $$$ cost).
I have no idea what it's worth but will consider all offers...
JM
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| Subject: | Re: Aluminum 8 plug Model A head for sale |
Thanks Dan,
Now that you mention it, I remember his (well, Verna's) note. :-)
Just sent him a message.
Hope you're getting in some flying with all this great weather!
JM
-----Original Message-----
From: helspersew@aol.com
Sent: Mar 18, 2012 7:56 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Aluminum 8 plug Model A head for sale
Jim,
Ken Perkins was looking for one of those.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Markle <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
Sent: Sat, Mar 17, 2012 10:15 pm
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Aluminum 8 plug Model A head for sale
More shop cleaning....I have a "high" compression (6.7:1 I think) Model A head
for sale.
Never has been used. Just been sitting collecting dust.
Sorta like that fancy Thomas Finned style Mac's sells...but without the fins (or
high $$$ cost).
I have no idea what it's worth but will consider all offers...
JM
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| Subject: | Re: started annual inspection early |
Shad, I hope you are back in the air very soon. Your checklist is
terrific. I've saved it for future reference. Of course, right now I need
one that says ... finish wing, run controls, cover wings, ... Cheers, Ken
On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 10:35 PM, shad bell <aviatorbell@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Well as luck would have it I didn't get to fly today. Started out
> planning to change the oil and go flying. Took the piet out of
> hybernation, she fired right up 2 blades, and purred like a kitten. Pushed
> it back in the hangar and took the cowling off and looked around. I
> noticed the carb heat box had paint peeling and sure enough it was
> cracked. We had a broken weld in it a couple years ago that we repaired
> but it craked again, in a bad area to try to repair. Time to order
> another, so we can get in the air, fix the old one later. I am going to
> replace the wing strut hardware (bolts) with new, this is flying season #7,
> and 300 hrs, so it is cheap insurance. Also have to take off some of the
> tail fittings to repaint them, Dad used POR 15 paint, And I found out from
> a classic car guy that it does not hold up to UV rays (peels right off to
> bare metal). Other than that, engine looks good, compression checks good,
> no extra oil leaks, and no house paint is blowing off. Hopefully I can get
> it wrapped up in a couple weekends, which is when winter will probably come
> back with a vengence. Also started making up a annual inspection checklist
> for a piet, I will attatch for whoever wants to look at it. Feel free to
> modify it for your own piet.
> Shad
>
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| Subject: | St. Patty's @ Jim Boyer's |
Yesterday, the majority of the NoCal Squadron of West Coast Pieters met at
Jim Boyer's (Santa Rosa, Ca), to celebrate our favorite Irishman, Bernard
Pietenpol! It is worth noting that, at least for this day of celebration, we
were able to put aside our differences on the best way to power a Pietenpol
through the skies (although 4 of the 8 persons pictured are committed to
Corvair!), instead totally focusing on Jim's project. Jim's garage, loaded
with all his tools, project, extra wood and 5 engines(!), is living proof
that it is possible to get 5 lbs of horse manure into a 1 lb sack! Arlene
Boyer fed us a fine meal of corned beef and cabbage, too!
Pictured, from Left to Right, back row: The estimable Chris Tracy, Scott
Debel (tail complete, but side-tracked by getting his PPL), and, to the far
right, Ray Krause (building a Sky Scout). In front: Host, Jim Boyer
(Corvair), Bill Roach (recent attendee to CC#22 - working on engine), Yours
truly (Corvair), Kevin McDonald (just purchased and A-powered Piet), and
Mike Weaver (Corvair - soon to be deployed to Afghanistan).
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
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| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun |
Jack's account of what happened last year seems to be in line with the stor
y posted in our BPA newsletter. I remember reading it and getting all bent
out of shape over the fact that these people were being treated the way the
y were.
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I hope the BPA newsletter follows up on this story, as they said they would
as more intell. became available.
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-I would hope that this kind of news gets out to the general aviation pub
lic, so others who fly there will know how they will be treated when the we
ather goes wrong and their planes get damaged.
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Unless SNF changes their ways and does right by these current plane owners,
I doubt I will attend any of their events.
Michael Perez
Karetaker Aero
www.karetakeraero.com
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| Subject: | Re: started annual inspection early |
I knew back when I was restoring my car about the POR-15 requiring a top coat for
UV protection. I am surprised they have not made a formula by now that can
handle UV with no other product needed.
Michael Perez
Karetaker Aero
www.karetakeraero.com
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| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun |
I met Barry Davis late last year while he was showing me the Big Piets at their
EAA Chapter hangar in Carrollton (thanks again, Barry!), and he related this
story to me about the SNF bill.
I am just curious- did SNF send bills to other pilots for similar "expenses"? I
would be interested in other similar stories. I just do not know how to find
out.
Or did SNF just try and stick it to the Pietenpols? And, if so, why? Does anyone
know?
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Semper Fi,
Terry Hand
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| Subject: | Corvair core for sale |
http://eaa80.org/show/show.php?tab=t5&title=Corvair&path=../projects/ameet_corvair/&back=/projects/index.php&anchor=#
If you are interested, please contact me at 402 516 4546. Make a reasonable
offer. It is a 1964 110 hp. It is in excellent condition.
Thanks
Ameet Savant
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| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun |
They probably stuck it to the Pieters knowing that they had "Deep Pockets",
since it is a well-known fact that only wealthy people go in for building
their own aircraft.
Where is that Sarcasm Font when I need it?
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
jarheadpilot82
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2012 1:12 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun
<jarheadpilot82@hotmail.com>
I met Barry Davis late last year while he was showing me the Big Piets at
their EAA Chapter hangar in Carrollton (thanks again, Barry!), and he
related this story to me about the SNF bill.
I am just curious- did SNF send bills to other pilots for similar
"expenses"? I would be interested in other similar stories. I just do not
know how to find out.
Or did SNF just try and stick it to the Pietenpols? And, if so, why? Does
anyone know?
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Semper Fi,
Terry Hand
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| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun |
What I want to know is why I had not heard of this before now, I mean
it's been nearly a year. I can understand why Barry and the rest
might not have wanted to make a stink about this - those of us in this
community tend towards self reliance and not complaining, making
things work out, etc. but there's a huge issue of injustice in this.
The general aviation community, and the aviation press specifically,
should have called attention to this long before now.
Corporate entities too frequently act like bullies, because
distributed leadership (boards of directors and chain of command)
within an organization whose main goal is making money also too often
dilutes the sense of moral responsibility. The best remedies for this
are economic pressure (boycott) and public shaming. It's time that
the corporation that operates SnF got a taste of both of these big time.
Kip Gardner
On Mar 18, 2012, at 2:07 PM, Jack Phillips wrote:
> >
>
> They probably stuck it to the Pieters knowing that they had "Deep
> Pockets",
> since it is a well-known fact that only wealthy people go in for
> building
> their own aircraft.
>
> Where is that Sarcasm Font when I need it?
>
> Jack Phillips
> NX899JP
> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> jarheadpilot82
> Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2012 1:12 PM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol for Kitplanes at Sun n Fun
>
> <jarheadpilot82@hotmail.com>
>
> I met Barry Davis late last year while he was showing me the Big
> Piets at
> their EAA Chapter hangar in Carrollton (thanks again, Barry!), and he
> related this story to me about the SNF bill.
>
> I am just curious- did SNF send bills to other pilots for similar
> "expenses"? I would be interested in other similar stories. I just
> do not
> know how to find out.
>
> Or did SNF just try and stick it to the Pietenpols? And, if so, why?
> Does
> anyone know?
>
> --------
> Do Not Archive
>
> Semper Fi,
>
> Terry Hand
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=368816#368816
>
>
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| Subject: | Pietenpols at Sun-n-Fun |
As a pilot and as a writer, it has been a joy to spend time with and share the
passions of builders, owners and designers, and to fly and to evaluate a number
of experimental, amateur-built aircraft. Indeed, the logbooks now show 583 hours
in 88 individual experimental aircraft of 59 models.
It was some time in the last millennium when I added Kitplanes to the list of publications
for which I've written, and the majority of the Kitplanes articles
have been pilot reports. But new editors make changes, and the new editor has
decided that I will no longer write pilot reports for Kitplanes.
Be that as it may, there's still a great story to be told of the Pietenpol and
the traditions kept alive by the current generation. I still want to write that
story, still want to see it in print -- but it will be for a different publication.
Hopefully this story will be illustrated with Ben Chavret's airplane but
maybe more if I get the chance.
And if anybody has any interesting anecdotes or technical tidbits, please drop
me an email.
Ed Wischmeyer
near Savannah, GA
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| Subject: | Brodhead W&B info |
Does anyone know if we can get W&B info on our airplanes that were weighed
at Brodhead last year? All I can find in the snowflake newsletter is generi
c stuff that doesn't tell me anything about MY airplane. I know what my rud
imentary figures were 10 yrs. ago but would like to get the high-tech digit
al version which should be more accurate and a lot more current.
-
Larry W. (Top Curmudgeon)
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| Subject: | Re: Brodhead W&B info |
Ryan Mueller should be able to help, Larry.
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Kevin "Axel" Purtee
NX899KP
Austin/Georgetown, TX
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| Subject: | Re: Brodhead W&B info |
Ryan Mueller should be able to help, Larry.
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Kevin "Axel" Purtee
NX899KP
Austin/Georgetown, TX
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| Subject: | Re: handheld radio question |
For those of you that may subscribe to Kitplanes magazine, there was an interesting
article in the April 2011 issue by Jim Weir on the proverbial "rubber ducky"
antenna normally found on your handheld. He gave a great discussion on how
antennas work as well as an inexpensive way to tie your handheld into a conventional
antenna and thus increase the range.
If you do not have a subscription, please email me off-line and I would be happy
to "summarize" the information for you.
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Semper Fi,
Terry Hand
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| Subject: | Re: Pietenpols at Sun-n-Fun |
Hey Ed,
Sorry to hear about the editorial woes... had a friend who wrote for and was editor
of several well known auto magazines... quite a fickle world!
Anyhoo, doubtful, though not completely out of the question, that I'll make sun
and fun, however, my daughter lives in Savannah and I need to make a cross country
there to see her. Shoot me your number and I'll advise you when I do and
you can give my Piet a once over and trip around the patch.
It's Dick Navatril's first Piet and he's quite well known not only amongst Piet
types, but sun and fun types as well. A great bird of the classic variety, straight
axle, wire wheels, wood short fuse and a A-65. Might be nice to add her
flying traits to your pilot's report if we can get you in it before you finish
your article.
Conversely, should you be able to get up to the Chattanooga area, you're always
welcome.
Tools
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I hope to finish up my lift struts tomorrow but I have one question
before I do the final welding. For those following the original plans,
on most of the photographs I have taken, it appears that at the bottom
of the stuts, the struts have been squeezed partially closed. My plan is
to chuck the struts in a vise and collapse the struts to an opening of
about 1/4". When I attach the struts, I then plan on putting washers
above and below the tab that the strut attaches to. Those of you that
have followed the original plans...did you do anything different?
Rick Schreiber
Valparaiso, IN
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| Subject: | Larry William's un-radio eqiupped Piet |
Don't beat yourself up too much Larry.
She's done pretty good so far considering she doesn't have a certified
airplane engine/prop combination either. Without a "real" aircraft engine
up front and a radio it's amazing you're still alive.
:-)
Douwe
Though I know for a fact she has a glass panel.
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| Subject: | sold....: Aluminum 8 plug Model A head for sale |
No longer available for sale. Thank you.
-----Original Message-----
>From: Jim Markle <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
>Sent: Mar 17, 2012 10:13 PM
>To: Pietenpol List <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Aluminum 8 plug Model A head for sale
>
>More shop cleaning....I have a "high" compression (6.7:1 I think) Model A head
for sale.
>
>Never has been used. Just been sitting collecting dust.
>
>Sorta like that fancy Thomas Finned style Mac's sells...but without the fins (or
high $$$ cost).
>
>I have no idea what it's worth but will consider all offers...
>
>JM
>
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