---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 03/21/12: 24 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:34 AM - radios, antennas and the pronounciation of my name. (Douwe Blumberg) 2. 05:41 AM - Re: Push Rod Tubes (Michael Perez) 3. 05:49 AM - Re: Inst. Panel design (Michael Perez) 4. 07:00 AM - my favorite panel--Larry Williams before he went non-purist:) (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP]) 5. 07:14 AM - Re: Landing Gear V question (Don Emch) 6. 07:58 AM - Re: Inst. Panel design (899PM) 7. 08:22 AM - N. Cal. Piet get-together (Oscar Zuniga) 8. 08:37 AM - Re: Re: Inst. Panel design (John Kuhfahl) 9. 09:06 AM - Re: Inst. Panel design (Pilot78) 10. 10:43 AM - Push Rod Tube Alternative (Michael Perez) 11. 12:45 PM - Re: my favorite panel--Larry Williams before he went non-purist: (RickBright) 12. 12:57 PM - Re: my favorite panel--Larry Williams before he went non-purist: (Mild Bill) 13. 01:09 PM - Re: radios, antennas and the pronounciation of my name. (Mild Bill) 14. 01:14 PM - Re: Push Rod Tube Alternative (Jerry Dotson) 15. 01:24 PM - Re: Re: Push Rod Tube Alternative (brian.e.jardine@l-3com.com) 16. 01:43 PM - Re: Re: Inst. Panel design (Barry Davis) 17. 02:23 PM - Re: my favorite panel--Larry Williams before he went non-purist: (kevinpurtee) 18. 02:27 PM - GN-1 PROJECT FOR SALE (Dan Gaston) 19. 02:44 PM - Push Rod Tube Alternative (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP]) 20. 02:52 PM - John Kuhfahl's Inst. Panel design (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP]) 21. 03:16 PM - off topic-- how a Hartzell propeller is made (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP]) 22. 08:14 PM - Re: Mike Cuy e-mail ok (jorge lizarraga) 23. 08:40 PM - Re: Mike Cuy e-mail ok (Gary Boothe) 24. 09:27 PM - Re: Inst. Panel design (Clif Dawson) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:34:09 AM PST US From: "Douwe Blumberg" Subject: Pietenpol-List: radios, antennas and the pronounciation of my name. First off, THANKS!! To all you guys, this was very helpful. Looks like for a few ounces I get increase the range of my handheld a LOT. Think I'll just get one of those ACS "kits", figure out how to attach it to the radio and mount it either behind the seat using the inspection panel as a ground plane or mount it vertically inside the vertical stabilizer (rudder fin) which I saw in an old BPA back issue. Though I hate adding even ounces back there, it would be the best spot by far in terms of interference. Secondly, my first name is pronounced "Dow", it's a Dutch name, though growing up, I heard every pronunciation imaginable!! Got all the old sheet metal back on her yesterday and am fed up with all the deteriorating holes in the wooden trim piece on the longerons so I'm installing some screw inserts so I can use machine screws. Just don't go into the longeron. Decided to add sheet metal behind each cockpit so I can have the World War 1 look to the coaming I've always loved. Hopefully can start covering the fuse and tail parts within a few weeks. Douwe ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:41:18 AM PST US From: Michael Perez Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Push Rod Tubes Thanks Jim. I was able to remove a tube from my "spare" engine no problems. The tube was loose to start with and it was just a matter of pulling outwa rd a little, rotate it, pull outward again, rotate, etc.- This basically compressed the tube end enough that is dropped right out. Michael Perez =0AKaretaker Aero =0Awww.karetakeraero.com ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:49:01 AM PST US From: Michael Perez Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Inst. Panel design Clif, I really like your panel.- It has a simple layout and has a very vi ntage look.- It appears that the panel itself is a little flatter on top and that makes it wider some along the sides...- a nice look, I believe. You also got my mind thinking when I saw the wood supports for the windscre en...good stuff! Michael Perez =0AKaretaker Aero =0Awww.karetakeraero.com ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:00:42 AM PST US From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP]" Subject: Pietenpol-List: my favorite panel--Larry Williams before he went non-purist:) Good friend (and fellow curmudgeon to be admired greatly!) Larry Williams h as my vote for favorite panel but then in going against his mostly purist likings towards Pietenpols he showed up with a glass (yes) cockpit one time. Fortunately Larry has a great sense of humor (unless you irritate him:) and he made up this really cool fake panel of carbon fiber and other goodies for static di splay to 'disconcert the masses' I believe! Mike C. ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:14:36 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Landing Gear V question From: "Don Emch" Oscar, I'd have to agree with you. When I switch from my large covered wheels to skis there is a noticeable difference. When I have the skis I notice the rudder is more effective and at the same time the plane will fly skewed a little easier. That tells me the covered wheels (which are probably comparable to covered v's) are acting like somewhat of a "keel". Don Emch NX899DE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=369053#369053 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:58:10 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Inst. Panel design From: "899PM" Here are a couple pics of my panels. The rear was shown above. I put some duplicate instruments in the front pit so that I can still see them when my readers choose to bail/freefall. Setting in the rear pit, I can not read any of the instruments without my readers on. -------- PAPA MIKE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=369057#369057 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_2007_100.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_2005_554.jpg ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:22:57 AM PST US From: Oscar Zuniga Subject: Pietenpol-List: N. Cal. Piet get-together Jim wrote- >When you do get your Piet on its way to Oregon you hopefully >will be able to stop somewhere close here in N. California. >It would be a good time to have another Piet get together. You betcha. I should be coming right up the central valley, Bakersfield-Hanford-Modesto-Yuba City-Red Bluff, and so on, but I can adjust the route any other way that puts me into a grass field, friends, a hangar for the night, or some other interesting attraction. Oh, and I'll probably be NORDO much of the time so I'll be avoiding controlled airspace as much as possible. Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" Flying Squirrel N2069Z "Rocket" Medford, OR website at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 08:37:28 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Inst. Panel design From: John Kuhfahl Here is my go at it...John On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 9:57 AM, 899PM wrote: > > Here are a couple pics of my panels. The rear was shown above. I put some > duplicate instruments in the front pit so that I can still see them when my > readers choose to bail/freefall. Setting in the rear pit, I can not read > any of the instruments without my readers on. > > -------- > PAPA MIKE > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=369057#369057 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_2007_100.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_2005_554.jpg > > -- John Kuhfahl, Lt Col USAF (Ret), President, KUHLCOUPER LLC ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 09:06:51 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Inst. Panel design From: "Pilot78" Thanks for all the replies and pictures of the panels. There is a lot of nice craftsmanship and unique ideas going into Piets. Brian SLC-UT Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=369064#369064 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 10:43:25 AM PST US From: Michael Perez Subject: Pietenpol-List: Push Rod Tube Alternative Crew, while discussing push rod tubes, beading tools, removal, installation , etc. with Mike C., I found an alternative to fix leaks.- It is a push r od tube conversion kit. Mike found the link- which shows the components o f the conversion kit. ACS sells said kit, but we feel others most likely do as well. Just some FYI... =0A=0Ahttp://www.realgaskets.com/files/colorpush.htm=0A=0A Michael Perez =0AKaretaker Aero =0Awww.karetakeraero.com ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 12:45:04 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: my favorite panel--Larry Williams before he went non-purist: From: "RickBright" This picture really threw for for a couple of days. The very thing that attracted me to a Piet was the simplicity, the Model A Engine, and the vintage look. Larry was gracious enough to talk with me on the phone and I told him of my desire to keep it simple and to the plans......... I thought I had found a "soul brother" thinking the same as I and then found this very picture on the web somewhere, I spent a couple of days kind of wondering "what the heck???" , then figured out it was fake. Funny :D Rick Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=369075#369075 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 12:57:34 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: my favorite panel--Larry Williams before he went non-purist: From: "Mild Bill" All that panel needs is some wood veneer over the carbon, then she'll be right, mates. [Wink] -------- Bill Frank Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=369076#369076 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 01:09:36 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: radios, antennas and the pronounciation of my name. From: "Mild Bill" Not to worry, Douwe - I knew the pronunciation from the Douwe Egberts line of pipes and pipe tobaccos. I was the only caucasian in my office who could correctly pronounce the name of one of my coworkers: Ramakrishnan Lakshminarayanan. -------- Bill Frank Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=369077#369077 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 01:14:23 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Push Rod Tube Alternative From: "Jerry Dotson" A friend has a J-3 with a C-85 and he put the Real Gasket pushrod tube kit on it and says it is dusty under there now! do not archive -------- Jerry Dotson 59 Daniel Johnson Rd Baker, FL 32531 Started building NX510JD July, 2009 now covering and painting 21" wheels Lycoming O-235 C2C Jay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=369078#369078 ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 01:24:20 PM PST US From: brian.e.jardine@l-3com.com Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Push Rod Tube Alternative Dusty under there? Instead of oily? Brian SLC-UT Do not Archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Dotson Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 2:14 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Push Rod Tube Alternative A friend has a J-3 with a C-85 and he put the Real Gasket pushrod tube kit on it and says it is dusty under there now! do not archive -------- Jerry Dotson 59 Daniel Johnson Rd Baker, FL 32531 Started building NX510JD July, 2009 now covering and painting 21" wheels Lycoming O-235 C2C Jay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=369078#369078 ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 01:43:03 PM PST US From: "Barry Davis" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Inst. Panel design Very, very, very good! -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of 899PM Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 10:57 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Inst. Panel design --> Here are a couple pics of my panels. The rear was shown above. I put some duplicate instruments in the front pit so that I can still see them when my readers choose to bail/freefall. Setting in the rear pit, I can not read any of the instruments without my readers on. -------- PAPA MIKE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=369057#369057 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_2007_100.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_2005_554.jpg ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 02:23:39 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: my favorite panel--Larry Williams before he went non-purist: From: "kevinpurtee" @Rick - TC Larry is a great guy, a great builder, a great dispenser of scathing wit when necessary, and a lot of fun. In addition to all that, he flies the tar out of a very old-school Piet. He ain't skeered! do not archive -------- Kevin "Axel" Purtee NX899KP Austin/San Marcos, TX Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=369087#369087 ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 02:27:21 PM PST US From: Dan Gaston Subject: Pietenpol-List: GN-1 PROJECT FOR SALE I still have a GN-1 project for sale. Complete rib set built, tail feathers built, fuselage sides built. All wood necessary to complete, including spars, sheeting,everything. All wood came from Aircraft Spruce. Laser cut 4130 fittings. Continental A-65-8 with carb, mags,hub,and logs, on engine stand. For details, just e-mail me. I'm tired of looking at something that I'm not going to finish. $3,000.00 for all of it, no less. I am located in Norwalk, ohio. Thank you, Dan Gaston. ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 02:44:23 PM PST US From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP]" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Push Rod Tube Alternative I was surprised to see that they made these for our Continental engines lik e JC Whitney does for the old air cooled VW engines. (Like I installed on my Corby Starl et.) Mike P. and I agreed that we like the simplicity of the push rod tube housi ngs as designed by Continental instead of all these pieces parts...but it does look kinda c ool. Mike C. [cid:image001.png@01CD078A.297AFE20] >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol- >list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of brian.e.jardine@l-3com.com >Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 4:22 PM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Push Rod Tube Alternative > > >Dusty under there? Instead of oily? > >Brian >SLC-UT > >Do not Archive > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jerry >Dotson >Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 2:14 PM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Push Rod Tube Alternative > > > >A friend has a J-3 with a C-85 and he put the Real Gasket pushrod tube >kit on it and says it is dusty under there now! > >do not archive > >-------- >Jerry Dotson >59 Daniel Johnson Rd >Baker, FL 32531 > >Started building NX510JD July, 2009 >now covering and painting >21" wheels >Lycoming O-235 C2C >Jay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44 > > > > >Read this topic online here: > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=369078#369078 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 02:52:42 PM PST US From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP]" Subject: Pietenpol-List: John Kuhfahl's Inst. Panel design Nice looks panel John-especially like the very old bubble compass you have in there. Mike C. do not archive ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 03:16:58 PM PST US From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP]" Subject: Pietenpol-List: off topic-- how a Hartzell propeller is made Thanks to my Facebook Friend Rudy Siegel for sharing this-very interesting stuff. http://www.flightschoollist.com/blog/2012/02/how-a-hartzell-propeller-is-ma de/ do not archive ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 08:14:33 PM PST US From: jorge lizarraga Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Mike Cuy e-mail ok I jope these help you to contact miky at michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov seyou gary jorge from hanford --- On Tue, 3/20/12, Gary Boothe wrote: From: Gary Boothe Subject: Pietenpol-List: Mike Cuy Can someone please provide me with Mike Cuy=99s email? =C2- Gary Boothe NX308MB Do not archive =C2- ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 08:40:05 PM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Mike Cuy e-mail ok Thanks, Jorge!! Gary Boothe NX308MB From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jorge lizarraga Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 8:14 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Mike Cuy e-mail ok I jope these help you to contact miky at michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov seyou gary jorge from hanford --- On Tue, 3/20/12, Gary Boothe wrote: From: Gary Boothe Subject: Pietenpol-List: Mike Cuy Can someone please provide me with Mike Cuy=99s email? Gary Boothe NX308MB Do not archive " target=_blank rel=nofollow>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List =nofollow>http://forums.matronics.com blank rel=nofollow>http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 09:27:45 PM PST US From: "Clif Dawson" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Inst. Panel design Thanks Micheal. Eventually those supports will be some nice hardwood. I wanted the cowl to tangent the sides. Doing that with a circle would get a little tall. :-) Oblate spheroid cut through the middle. Say what?? Definition: squished circle. :-) Clif Clif, I really like your panel. It has a simple layout and has a very vintage look. It appears that the panel itself is a little flatter on top and that makes it wider some along the sides... a nice look, I believe. You also got my mind thinking when I saw the wood supports for the windscreen...good stuff! Michael Perez Karetaker Aero www.karetakeraero.com No virus found in this message. 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