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1. 06:20 AM - Re: talk to me about seat cushion material (IT Girl)
2. 06:51 AM - Re: talk to me about seat cushion material (TOM STINEMETZE)
3. 07:30 AM - Re: Re: talk to me about seat cushion material (Ken Bickers)
4. 08:06 AM - an alternative to seat cushions (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP])
5. 08:35 AM - Re: an alternative to seat cushions (IT Girl)
6. 08:51 AM - Re: hand help radio question (K5YAC)
7. 09:45 AM - ignition noise when using radios (nothing about antennas--I PROMISE!) (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP])
8. 09:49 AM - Inst. Panel design (santiago morete)
9. 10:29 AM - Re: Inst. Panel design (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP])
10. 10:40 AM - Re: Inst. Panel design (Brett Phillips)
11. 10:43 AM - Re: Inst. Panel design (Dan Yocum)
12. 11:28 AM - Re: Inst. Panel design (Chris Rusch)
13. 01:32 PM - Re: ignition noise when using radios (nothing about antennas--I PROMISE!) (Andrew Eldredge)
14. 01:44 PM - ignition noise (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP])
15. 01:49 PM - Re: ignition noise when using radios (nothing about antennas--I PROMISE!) (John Hofmann)
16. 02:41 PM - Fuel Tank Finished (Michael Perez)
17. 03:03 PM - Re: Fuel Tank Finished (brian.e.jardine@l-3com.com)
18. 04:25 PM - Re: Fuel Tank Finished (aircamperace@yahoo.com)
19. 04:58 PM - Re: Re: talk to me about seat cushion material (airlion)
20. 05:01 PM - Re: Re: talk to me about seat cushion material (airlion)
21. 08:26 PM - Re: hand help radio question (Clif Dawson)
22. 09:04 PM - Re: Re: talk to me about seat cushion material (Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB)
23. 10:25 PM - talk to me about seat cushion material (Oscar Zuniga)
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Subject: | Re: talk to me about seat cushion material |
Hi Douwe,
My 2 cents. The front seat, based on the plans has very little if any angle in
the seat back, and is just not designed to be comfortable. The seat itself is
only about 11" wide? at best and the passenger and seat cushion must stay clear
of the pilots feet. We have put a lot of time, energy, and money into cushions
to make that seat more comfortable for me and the only real secret is short
flights. I cannot take 6 hour days in the front seat.
Now if you can get Dan Helsper to chime in.... I think that his cane seats are
the answer! If Kevin would let me, I would make that upgrade!..... But Kevin
is a slacker... I'll take it up with Ken, we all know that he does all of the
work anyway.
From: kevinpurtee
Subject: Re: talk to me about seat cushion material
--> Pietenpol-List message posted
by: "kevinpurtee"
Hi Douwe - I do fly.
Shelley made the cushions. We used the high-dollar
foam from aircraft spruce and she bought a cow-hide off ebay
and used it to make both seat cushions and the coaming,
similar to what Jack described. Also similar to Jack,
she layered the various densities to make the cushions more
comfortable. I believe the cushions are 2".
In the back: the bottom cushion takes up almost the whole
seat bottom and is not secured by anything but my
butt. That has never, ever created a problem. It
does not move. My back rest cushion is a neck pillow
that she covered in duck cloth of an appropriate color (same
fabric as the cockpit covers). BTW: The duck cloth on
the cockpit covers shrinks and the red trim bleeds color
when wet.
In the front: she made a cushion that takes up the tiny seat
bottom. Even with the high-dollar foam people get
uncomfortable up there pretty quick.
My record day was 500 miles and that's pretty tiring.
The seat cushion was not a problem, though. As you may
be aware, the trips from Texas to Brodhead are 3 days each
way and I fly a lot while at Brodhead.
Hope this helps.
--------
Kevin "Axel" Purtee
NX899KP
Austin/San Marcos, TX
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=369409#369409
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Shelley Tumino
IT Girl
wife of "Axel"
NX899KP
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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Subject: | Re: talk to me about seat cushion material |
If you are all wondering what an IT girl looks like, here's a photo I took
last summer when she and Kevin were in McPherson. 8>)
Tom Stinemetze
N328X
>>> "IT Girl" <shlizbth@gmail.com> 3/28/2012 8:20 AM >>>
Hi Douwe,
My 2 cents. The front seat, based on the plans has very little if any
angle in the seat back, and is just not designed to be comfortable. The
seat itself is only about 11" wide? at best and the passenger and seat
cushion must stay clear of the pilots feet. We have put a lot of time,
energy, and money into cushions to make that seat more comfortable for me
and the only real secret is short flights. I cannot take 6 hour days in
the front seat.
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Subject: | Re: talk to me about seat cushion material |
Shelley, thanks for the shout out. Please tell Kevin to quit being
such a slacker. Meanwhile, I'll get back to work on those caned seats.
Best, Ken
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On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 7:20 AM, IT Girl <shlizbth@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Douwe,
>
> My 2 cents. The front seat, based on the plans has very little if any angle in
the seat back, and is just not designed to be comfortable. The seat itself is
only about 11" wide? at best and the passenger and seat cushion must stay clear
of the pilots feet. We have put a lot of time, energy, and money into cushions
to make that seat more comfortable for me and the only real secret is short
flights. I cannot take 6 hour days in the front seat.
>
> Now if you can get Dan Helsper to chime in.... I think that his cane seats are
the answer! If Kevin would let me, I would make that upgrade!..... But Kevin
is a slacker... I'll take it up with Ken, we all know that he does all of the
work anyway.
>
>
> From: kevinpurtee
> Subject: Re: talk to me about seat cushion material
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Date: Tuesday, March 27, 2012, 10:54 AM
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted
> by: "kevinpurtee"
>
> Hi Douwe - I do fly.
>
> Shelley made the cushions. We used the high-dollar
> foam from aircraft spruce and she bought a cow-hide off ebay
> and used it to make both seat cushions and the coaming,
> similar to what Jack described. Also similar to Jack,
> she layered the various densities to make the cushions more
> comfortable. I believe the cushions are 2".
>
> In the back: the bottom cushion takes up almost the whole
> seat bottom and is not secured by anything but my
> butt. That has never, ever created a problem. It
> does not move. My back rest cushion is a neck pillow
> that she covered in duck cloth of an appropriate color (same
> fabric as the cockpit covers). BTW: The duck cloth on
> the cockpit covers shrinks and the red trim bleeds color
> when wet.
>
> In the front: she made a cushion that takes up the tiny seat
> bottom. Even with the high-dollar foam people get
> uncomfortable up there pretty quick.
>
> My record day was 500 miles and that's pretty tiring.
> The seat cushion was not a problem, though. As you may
> be aware, the trips from Texas to Brodhead are 3 days each
> way and I fly a lot while at Brodhead.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> --------
> Kevin "Axel" Purtee
> NX899KP
> Austin/San Marcos, TX
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=369409#369409
>
> --------
> Shelley Tumino
> IT Girl
> wife of "Axel"
> NX899KP
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=369462#369462
>
>
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Subject: | an alternative to seat cushions |
Southwest.
do not archive
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Subject: | Re: an alternative to seat cushions |
nope... those are awful too
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Shelley Tumino
IT Girl
wife of "Axel"
NX899KP
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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Subject: | Re: hand help radio question |
Another vote for the Icom radios... although I have also heard good things about
the Vertex line... makers of Yeasu products.
Quick story, and nothing about getting the most out of your radio or any of that
boring stuff... LOL! I was flying the first leg of my long cross-country several
years ago from Tulsa to Springfield, MO. On my solo training flights I
always carried my flight bag, to include handheld radio and GPS, just in case
I got turned around. So, I'm flying along and getting near Springfield... as
I reach up to tune the old radio to listen to traffic, the knob slips right off
into my fingers! I thought, no biggie, I'll just slip it back on and then keep
it handy for whenever I need to change freqs, but when I looked at the knob
I noticed that there was no flat, just a round shaft and a set screw! What
a terrible design, especially for an airplane radio! So, I was out of luck on
using the panel radio. The only thing that kept me from having to use light
signals to land was my Icom A-22. I grabbed it and the Y-adapter from my bag,
hooked it up and was able to contact Springfield approach loud and clear about
10 miles out. I just threw the HT on the dash and pressed on with the rest
of my flight... my next stop was Chanute, KS and then back home to Tulsa. The
A-22 worked fine just sitting on the dash... no ground plane, no feedline issues,
just the ol rubber duckie... Ha! Yes, I'm just being a smart aleck.
No, this is not how I'll use it in the Piet.
--------
Mark Chouinard
Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage
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Subject: | ignition noise when using radios (nothing about antennas--I |
PROMISE!)
As long as we are talking radios, I use an Icom A-5 and it works
really well.
I have unshielded wiring on my spark plug wires so the radio picks up
the 'buzz' noise of the engine firing.
An old trick my Champ buddy Joe Tomasic told me wayyyy back was to switch
to one mag and throttle back some when wanting to listen or transmit as it
cuts the plug noise in half.
Have used that method for years and years--works fine.
Mike C.
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Subject: | Inst. Panel design |
My full IFR panel. I still think I have too many instruments.....=0A=0ASant
iago
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Subject: | Inst. Panel design |
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Subject: | Re: Inst. Panel design |
Santiago:
It's beautiful! I really like your slip/skid inclinometer. Please tell me m
ore about it.
Brett Phillips
On Mar 28, 2012, at 12:48 PM, santiago morete <moretesantiago@yahoo.com.ar> w
rote:
> My full IFR panel. I still think I have too many instruments.....
>
> Santiago
> <Tablero.jpg>
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Subject: | Re: Inst. Panel design |
Nice. Oil pressure and temperature go... where?
Dan
On 03/28/2012 11:48 AM, santiago morete wrote:
> My full IFR panel. I still think I have too many instruments.....
>
> Santiago
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Subject: | Re: Inst. Panel design |
Here is mine, compass goes in the top center hole. Slip indicator goes on the bottom
center.
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Attachments:
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Subject: | Re: ignition noise when using radios (nothing about antennas--I |
PROMISE!)
Are your p-leads shielded? I've encountered the "buzz" but performance is
still marginal even with shielded ignition wires. I'm looking at using
shielded leads to see if that can get me into an operable situation.
Andrew
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 10:45 AM, Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE
CORP] <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov> wrote:
> AEROSPACE CORP]" <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>
>
> As long as we are talking radios, I use an Icom A-5 and it works
> really well.
>
> I have unshielded wiring on my spark plug wires so the radio picks up
> the 'buzz' noise of the engine firing.
>
> An old trick my Champ buddy Joe Tomasic told me wayyyy back was to switch
> to one mag and throttle back some when wanting to listen or transmit as it
> cuts the plug noise in half.
>
> Have used that method for years and years--works fine.
>
> Mike C.
>
>
--
Andrew Eldredge
Provo, UT
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Andrew-yes, I used shielded p-leads as per the Tony Bingelis books on both
of my unshielded
Eismann mags.
Mike C.
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Subject: | Re: ignition noise when using radios (nothing about antennas--I |
PROMISE!)
I have an A-24 and an A-14. I like them both. I use the A-14 more
because it is very small and simple to use. I velcro it to the inside of
the fuselage. (FYI, JoAnn Fabrics has a great supply of Velcro in sheets
and rolls. I also Velcro my iPhone to the instrument panel for
navigation and when necessary, attach an intercom next to the radio.)
However the A-24 came with the headset adapter and when I bought my A-14
it did not. When I purchased another of those the price was approaching
what I paid for the A-24.
-john-
John Hofmann
Vice-President, Information Technology
The Rees Group, Inc.
2424 American Lane
Madison, WI 53704
Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
Fax: 608.443.2474
Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com
On Mar 28, 2012, at 3:32 PM, Andrew Eldredge wrote:
> Are your p-leads shielded? I've encountered the "buzz" but
performance is still marginal even with shielded ignition wires. I'm
looking at using shielded leads to see if that can get me into an
operable situation.
>
> Andrew
>
> On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 10:45 AM, Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC
AEROSPACE CORP] <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov> wrote:
AEROSPACE CORP]" <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>
>
> As long as we are talking radios, I use an Icom A-5 and it works
> really well.
>
> I have unshielded wiring on my spark plug wires so the radio picks up
> the 'buzz' noise of the engine firing.
>
> An old trick my Champ buddy Joe Tomasic told me wayyyy back was to
switch
> to one mag and throttle back some when wanting to listen or transmit
as it
> cuts the plug noise in half.
>
> Have used that method for years and years--works fine.
>
> Mike C.
>
>
>
>
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Subject: | Fuel Tank Finished |
Attached are pictures of my finished fuel tank. With the help of a friend,
we fabricated the tank out of- .032" 5052 aluminum. Another post of mine
includes pictures showing the tank baffles inside.- The tank was welded a
nd pressure tested to about 3 PSI by Greg Klemp, who was mentioned in the f
irst BPA newsletter this year.
-
The tank as pictured with filler neck, cap and finger strainer weighs 6.5lb
s.- Next I will find out how many gallons it will hold and start the inst
all. and fuel line hook-up.
-
Michael Perez
Karetaker Aero
www.karetakeraero.com
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Subject: | Fuel Tank Finished |
Looks great Michael...... beautiful welding job!
Brian
SLC-UT
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael
Perez
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 3:40 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fuel Tank Finished
Attached are pictures of my finished fuel tank. With the help of a
friend, we fabricated the tank out of .032" 5052 aluminum. Another post
of mine includes pictures showing the tank baffles inside. The tank was
welded and pressure tested to about 3 PSI by Greg Klemp, who was
mentioned in the first BPA newsletter this year.
The tank as pictured with filler neck, cap and finger strainer weighs
6.5lbs. Next I will find out how many gallons it will hold and start
the install. and fuel line hook-up.
Michael Perez
Karetaker Aero
www.karetakeraero.com
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Subject: | Re: Fuel Tank Finished |
Nice Job. Any chance you'll be sharing the plans or will they be in the next
video?
Ryan
Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 28, 2012, at 5:40 PM, Michael Perez <speedbrake@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Attached are pictures of my finished fuel tank. With the help of a friend,
we fabricated the tank out of .032" 5052 aluminum. Another post of mine in
cludes pictures showing the tank baffles inside. The tank was welded and pr
essure tested to about 3 PSI by Greg Klemp, who was mentioned in the first B
PA newsletter this year.
>
> The tank as pictured with filler neck, cap and finger strainer weighs 6.5l
bs. Next I will find out how many gallons it will hold and start the instal
l. and fuel line hook-up.
>
> Michael Perez
> Karetaker Aero
> www.karetakeraero.com
> <IMG_6658.JPG>
> <IMG_6654.JPG>
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Subject: | Re: talk to me about seat cushion material |
Hey it girl. As an old furniture builder The correct angle for a chair is 17
degrees. to be comfortable. If you can't get that angle then try dropping the
middle of your seat about 1.5 inches by using a sheet of alum to le itt conform
to your bottom. It works for me.
----- Original Message ----
From: IT Girl <shlizbth@gmail.com>
Sent: Wed, March 28, 2012 9:20:02 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: talk to me about seat cushion material
Hi Douwe,
My 2 cents. The front seat, based on the plans has very little if any angle in
the seat back, and is just not designed to be comfortable. The seat itself is
only about 11" wide? at best and the passenger and seat cushion must stay clear
of the pilots feet. We have put a lot of time, energy, and money into cushions
to make that seat more comfortable for me and the only real secret is short
flights. I cannot take 6 hour days in the front seat.
Now if you can get Dan Helsper to chime in.... I think that his cane seats are
the answer! If Kevin would let me, I would make that upgrade!..... But Kevin is
a slacker... I'll take it up with Ken, we all know that he does all of the work
anyway.
From: kevinpurtee
Subject: Re: talk to me about seat cushion material
--> Pietenpol-List message posted
by: "kevinpurtee"
Hi Douwe - I do fly.
Shelley made the cushions. We used the high-dollar
foam from aircraft spruce and she bought a cow-hide off ebay
and used it to make both seat cushions and the coaming,
similar to what Jack described. Also similar to Jack,
she layered the various densities to make the cushions more
comfortable. I believe the cushions are 2".
In the back: the bottom cushion takes up almost the whole
seat bottom and is not secured by anything but my
butt. That has never, ever created a problem. It
does not move. My back rest cushion is a neck pillow
that she covered in duck cloth of an appropriate color (same
fabric as the cockpit covers). BTW: The duck cloth on
the cockpit covers shrinks and the red trim bleeds color
when wet.
In the front: she made a cushion that takes up the tiny seat
bottom. Even with the high-dollar foam people get
uncomfortable up there pretty quick.
My record day was 500 miles and that's pretty tiring.
The seat cushion was not a problem, though. As you may
be aware, the trips from Texas to Brodhead are 3 days each
way and I fly a lot while at Brodhead.
Hope this helps.
--------
Kevin "Axel" Purtee
NX899KP
Austin/San Marcos, TX
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=369409#369409
--------
Shelley Tumino
IT Girl
wife of "Axel"
NX899KP
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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Subject: | Re: talk to me about seat cushion material |
Hey Tom . that is a gross pic for such pleasant and nice looking lady as
Kevins' It Girl. Gardiner
----- Original Message ----
From: TOM STINEMETZE <TOMS@mcpcity.com>
Sent: Wed, March 28, 2012 9:50:48 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: talk to me about seat cushion material
If you are all wondering what an IT girl looks like, here's a photo I took last
summer when she and Kevin were in McPherson. 8>)
Tom Stinemetze
N328X
>>> "IT Girl" <shlizbth@gmail.com> 3/28/2012 8:20 AM >>>
Hi Douwe,
My 2 cents. The front seat, based on the plans has very little if any angle in
the seat back, and is just not designed to be comfortable. The seat itself is
only about 11" wide? at best and the passenger and seat cushion must stay clear
of the pilots feet. We have put a lot of time, energy, and money into cushions
to make that seat more comfortable for me and the only real secret is short
flights. I cannot take 6 hour days in the front seat.
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Subject: | Re: hand help radio question |
I bought an A14 and in attempting to put some
frequencies in memory screwed it up so bad
dealing with the silly instructions I almost
threw the thing across the room. Stayed my
hand though, with extreme difficulty!!
Ah, but then I went to Utube and found a
whole flock of instruction vids on the various
functions including the memory stuff. The
guy made it so easy a two year old could
do it. A few minutes of work I have twelve
frequencies in the memory!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2D2lJUoIjlw
I tell you! this is NOT like the written instructions!!!
Clif
"There's nothing remarkable about it.
All one has to do is hit the right keys at the right time
and the instrument plays itself."
~Johann Sebastian Bach
Hey Douwe, I have the ICOM A6 with an antenna back in the fuse.
I like it and it gets good reception but it is not user friendly . I
have to get the manual to figure out what I am doing. Gardiner
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Subject: | Re: talk to me about seat cushion material |
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I only take my wife's pillow. Besides, I tell her it smells like petunias!
Blue Skies,
Steve D
On 03/27/12, Piet2112 wrote:
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> > For long trips in my Vtail (or the 2001 Toyota Corolla), I often take a memory
foam pillow off of my bed. Makes a world of difference.
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> After using the pillow as a seat cushion, are you sure you want to lay your head
on it?
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> I guess it has two sides :)
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> Curt Merdan
> please do not archive
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=369444#369444
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Subject: | talk to me about seat cushion material |
OK, now here's a topic that is going to generate some lively discussion!
First off, I agree completely with Axel: get temperfoam, get the various
densities to build up a custom cushion that is shaped to your backside,
and don't spare any expense. If you don't plan to make long flights,
then don't give it another thought- you could just put bare plywood down and
be OK, or toss a cheapo throw pillow or stadium cushion in there and
be just fine. Just don't expect that to work if you'll be flying your
airplane cross-country. Definition of x-c in a Piet: anything more than
a 0.5 hr. entry in your logbook.
Front and rear seats are two entirely different topics.
Rear seat is PIC's. If you will fly an hour or two at a time, it won't
matter what you do for your seat. If you're a serious flyer, it will.
Scout has a full-size seat cushion in the rear cockpit, naugahyde over
foam over plywood, and it's OK for puttering around the pattern but not
for anything over 30 minutes. I have put various types of cushions on
top of the seat for longer flights, everything from the Walmart cushions
for bar stools to the flotation cushions from boats, and they all are OK
for shorter flights but not for hours at a time and not for x-c. Plus,
when I put supplemental cushions in there, I raise my face into the
airstream so I prefer not to do that so I can stay behind the windscreen. My
problem is that I am a 150lb. guy and in the Piet, all my weight is on
the tailbones and there isn't anything there to cushion those two hard points.
You have to get in the airplane and fly it x-c to see what will work for
you, but craft store cheapo foam stuff won't do it but you won't know until
you go for a longer flight.
Next point: back rests, front or back cockpits: you could have iron scraps
there, or bananas- it doesn't matter because you'll never be sitting back
for very long. At least I don't find myself leaning back against the back
rest for very long. And I've flown both front and rear cockpits for hours
at a time. In the back as PIC and in the front as navigator, with charts.
Next point: the front seat. it's not very large. If you'll just be giving
rides, your passengers won't know if they are on a soft cushion or a hard
one, or if there is a cushion at all. They will be so psyched on the flight
itself that they won't know what they sat on or anything else unless it has
to do with their experience out of the cockpit. If you build it to plans, there
is
no cushion on the front seat. Kids won't care in the slightest.
Final comment: the padding on the pilot's seat bottom is one of the most
important factors in how comfortable you will be flying your Piet for
extended periods, and you won't know that until you fly it for an extended
period. Don't spend a lot of money on the first try, because chances are,
the first time you fly an extended x-c you'll want to change it.
After 2 hrs. in the air in Scout, I'm ready for a break and I have determined
that after numerous extended flights. I need some Temperfoam but I'm willing
to endure almost anything just so I can fly my airplane. There is nothing
else like it.
Oscar Zuniga
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
Flying Squirrel N2069Z "Rocket"
Medford, OR
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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