---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 03/31/12: 10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 09:30 AM - Re: Aircamping (taildrags) 2. 09:32 AM - Re: Nice Jungmann photo! (taildrags) 3. 10:09 AM - Aircamping Re-send (Ben Charvet) 4. 10:44 AM - Re: Re: Nice Jungmann photo! (dog67@aol.com) 5. 10:45 AM - Windscreen options (John Kuhfahl) 6. 10:47 AM - Cockpit Combing (Gary Boothe) 7. 06:09 PM - Any thoughts on this idea for turnbuckles (Kyle85) 8. 07:12 PM - Re: Any thoughts on this idea for turnbuckles (Kyle85) 9. 07:39 PM - Re: Re: Any thoughts on this idea for turnbuckles (Greg Cardinal) 10. 09:20 PM - Re: Any thoughts on this idea for turnbuckles (Bill Church) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 09:30:00 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Aircamping From: "taildrags" It was held in Australia this year. -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" A75 power Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=369695#369695 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:32:23 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Nice Jungmann photo! From: "taildrags" Ah, but it IS Piet related. I think Shad Bell is working on a Bucker and he's a Piet guy (or a Grega guy, at least). And there's your connection. At any rate, I think there is always something to be learned by closely examining good clear photos of airplanes. Some detail, some connection, some finish, or arrangement, or trim. This beautiful photo has lots to learn from. Oh, and it's got SMOKE, too!!! -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" A75 power Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=369696#369696 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:09:16 AM PST US From: Ben Charvet Subject: Pietenpol-List: Aircamping Re-send It really was held in Florida. Its amazing I can manage to keep the Piet upright, but somehow post at least 3 different pictures upside down. Hope this one works. Ben PS. The i-phone takes great pictures, but does unpredictable things with them. On 3/31/2012 12:29 PM, taildrags wrote: > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "taildrags" > > It was held in Australia this year. > > -------- > Oscar Zuniga > Medford, OR > Air Camper NX41CC"Scout" > A75 power > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=369695#369695 > > -- Ben Charvet, PharmD Staff Pharmacist Parrish Medical center ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:44:21 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Nice Jungmann photo! From: dog67@aol.com Thanks Oscar ;) We had a lot of fun shooting these pic's. If the weather god's cooprate, I hope to have more chances to shoot Piets t his summer at Brodhead. Cheers Jonathan -----Original Message----- From: taildrags Sent: Sat, Mar 31, 2012 10:32 am Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Nice Jungmann photo! Ah, but it IS Piet related. I think Shad Bell is working on a Bucker and h e's a iet guy (or a Grega guy, at least). And there's your connection. At any rate, I think there is always something to be learned by closely xamining good clear photos of airplanes. Some detail, some connection, som e inish, or arrangement, or trim. This beautiful photo has lots to learn fro m. h, and it's got SMOKE, too!!! -------- scar Zuniga edford, OR ir Camper NX41CC "Scout" 75 power ead this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=369696#369696 -= - The Pietenpol-List Email Forum - -= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse -= the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription, -= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, -= Photoshare, and much much more: - -= --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List - -======================== -= - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - -= Same great content also available via the Web Forums! - -= --> http://forums.matronics.com - -======================== -= - List Contribution Web Site - -= Thank you for your generous support! -= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. -= --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution -======================== ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 10:45:35 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Windscreen options From: John Kuhfahl I got these1941"Fleet Airplane"windscreens--thinkit'l'work? Also look at my sweet "65" engine ready to work -- John Kuhfahl, Lt Col USAF (Ret), President, KUHLCOUPER LLC ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:47:18 AM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Cockpit Combing Ben, Do you have a website where I could access pictures of how you did your cockpit combing? Gary from Cool -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ben Charvet Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2012 10:08 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Aircamping Re-send It really was held in Florida. Its amazing I can manage to keep the Piet upright, but somehow post at least 3 different pictures upside down. Hope this one works. Ben PS. The i-phone takes great pictures, but does unpredictable things with them. On 3/31/2012 12:29 PM, taildrags wrote: > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "taildrags" > > It was held in Australia this year. > > -------- > Oscar Zuniga > Medford, OR > Air Camper NX41CC"Scout" > A75 power > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=369695#369695 > > -- Ben Charvet, PharmD Staff Pharmacist Parrish Medical center ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:09:48 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Any thoughts on this idea for turnbuckles From: "Kyle85" One of the great things about building an experimental airplanes is that you can demonstrate certain ideas and concepts. Turnbuckles are critical safety items, but I believe that there is a way to duplicate the function of an aviation grade turnbuckle by using all aircraft grade parts for a fraction of the cost and the satisfaction of overcoming a design problem. The picture below is somthing I drew up based on someones design that posted a picture of their turnbuckles. I am not an engineer, the reason I am posting this is to get opinions from those of you that have some real experiences and have knowledge that extends beyond my own. In the end I want a safe airplane and not break my limited budget. Oh yeah, this turnbucke(if I decide to follow through with it) will only be used in some areas such as inside the wing and maybe a few other places. -------- Airspeed, altitude or brains: Two are always needed to successfully complete the flight. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=369731#369731 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/turnbuckle_207.jpg ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:12:18 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Any thoughts on this idea for turnbuckles From: "Kyle85" In my haste I just realized I wrote 7/16" bolt. That is just force of habbit as I am envisioning the bolt which is a 7/16 bolt head. The bolt I intended would be a 1/4" by 28 threads/inch. Same goes with the 3/8" clevis bolt or bolt with the steel spacer. Also, after another Maker's Mark I decided that this could be modified for a homemade cable quick disconnect system. Just use a shorter bolt and butt the straps together and THEN adjust your tension at the turnbuckle. Then, all you would have to do to put it back together is tighten up the "7/16" until it bottoms out and becomes snug. After that your cable tension should be roughly the same. -------- Airspeed, altitude or brains: Two are always needed to successfully complete the flight. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=369734#369734 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 07:39:12 PM PST US From: "Greg Cardinal" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Any thoughts on this idea for turnbuckles Nice idea but I think you should increase the width and thickness of the steel strap. 3/4" wide X .063 or .080 Also, an AN111 cable bushing instead of an AN100 thimble would be more appropriate. Greg Cardinal Minneapolis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kyle85" Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2012 9:11 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Any thoughts on this idea for turnbuckles > > In my haste I just realized I wrote 7/16" bolt. That is just force of > habbit as I am envisioning the bolt which is a 7/16 bolt head. The bolt I > intended would be a 1/4" by 28 threads/inch. Same goes with the 3/8" > clevis bolt or bolt with the steel spacer. Also, after another Maker's > Mark I decided that this could be modified for a homemade cable quick > disconnect system. Just use a shorter bolt and butt the straps together > and THEN adjust your tension at the turnbuckle. Then, all you would have > to do to put it back together is tighten up the "7/16" until it bottoms > out and becomes snug. After that your cable tension should be roughly the > same. > > -------- > Airspeed, altitude or brains: Two are always needed to successfully > complete the flight. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=369734#369734 > > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 09:20:15 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Any thoughts on this idea for turnbuckles From: "Bill Church" Kyle, Just looked at your sketch, and my first thought was "How are you going to tighten that nut/bolt?". I don't see how you would be able to get wrenches into those spaces. When "eyeball engineering" things, it's always a good idea to draw your idea in a 1:1 scale. Draw every part as accurately as possible, including fasteners. Usually by creating an accurate scale drawing, the feasibility of your idea becomes more clear (or not). Bill C. 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