Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Tue 04/24/12


Total Messages Posted: 14



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 02:12 PM - progress info thread (Douwe Blumberg)
     2. 02:35 PM - Re: progress info thread (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
     3. 02:48 PM - FW: Corvair CHT (Rod Wooller)
     4. 04:03 PM - Re: progress info thread (kevinpurtee)
     5. 04:33 PM - Re: Re: progress info thread (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
     6. 04:34 PM - Wing Tip Transition (Kringle)
     7. 04:45 PM - Re: Wing Tip Transition (Jack Phillips)
     8. 04:52 PM - Re: Re: progress info thread (airlion)
     9. 05:40 PM - Re: Re: progress info thread (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
    10. 05:57 PM - Re: Wing Tip Transition (giacummo)
    11. 06:07 PM - Re: Wing Tip Transition (C N Campbell)
    12. 07:15 PM - Re: Corvair CHT (skellytown flyer)
    13. 07:18 PM - Re: Wing Tip Transition (Chris)
    14. 08:27 PM - Re: FW: Corvair CHT (Hans van der Voort)
 
 
 


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    Time: 02:12:10 PM PST US
    From: Douwe Blumberg <douweblumberg@earthlink.net>
    Subject: progress info thread
    Hey John, As stated in my initial email that started that thread, I thought it be would be 1. interesting 2. encouraging and 3. educational to hear what everybody is doing. I had no idea what most of us were building until now and it also gives us an idea of when some of these new ones might "come on line". As stated before, it is interesting to see the subtle and not so subtle "nuances" builders are incorporating. Douwe


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    Time: 02:35:47 PM PST US
    From: AMsafetyC@aol.com
    Subject: Re: progress info thread
    Douwe, it was all of that, and now with all that information floating around it would be nice to do something with it. Which was the basis for my comments. Especially when one builder can contact a nother with a similar configuration directly to ask a specific question about a technique or design specific to that configuration. No sense wasting a good idea, great information and the potential for great resource utilization on strictly entertainment especially when some utility can be had. John Do not archive


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    Time: 02:48:33 PM PST US
    From: Rod Wooller <rmwo@clear.net.nz>
    Subject: FW: Corvair CHT
    Thanks for all the helpful replies. My cooling eyebrows are as per Hans van der Voort's design, but I may need to do some work with high temp silicon to minimise air leakage as my test pilot recorded CHT's of 450F during climb-out on a 72F day. A flat nose probably doesn't help the airflow either. Still a lot of testing to do before I get the controls. Thanks again guys. Rod Wooller ZK-PAC From: Rod Wooller [mailto:rodwooller@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, 23 April 2012 8:19 PM Subject: Fwd: Corvair CHT ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Rod Wooller <rodwooller@gmail.com> Subject: Corvair CHT Pietenpol-List Digest List <pietenpol-list-digest@matronics.com> I have a CHT gauge on my Pietenpol with sensors under the rear spark plugs of each cylinder head. Can anyone tell me the maximum temperature that the Corvair heads should be run at ? Thanks, Rod Wooller ZK-PAC


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    Time: 04:03:59 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: progress info thread
    From: "kevinpurtee" <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
    So John, what you're saying is that you're volunteering to compile the information... :D do not archive, lesyawanna -------- Kevin &quot;Axel&quot; Purtee NX899KP Austin/San Marcos, TX Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=371736#371736


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    Time: 04:33:36 PM PST US
    From: AMsafetyC@aol.com
    Subject: Re: progress info thread
    Kevin, in a word, NO! juss expressing thoughts Do not archive John


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    Time: 04:34:48 PM PST US
    Subject: Wing Tip Transition
    From: "Kringle" <Mrkringles@msn.com>
    I would like to see pictures of how some of you transitioned the wing tip to the leading and trailing edge. Thanks John -------- John Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=371737#371737


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    Time: 04:45:06 PM PST US
    From: "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Wing Tip Transition
    You can see the corner of the wingtip in the foregroud of this picture (ignore me sitting in my fuselage making airplane noises). I mixed microballoons with epoxy to make a thick slurry and globbed it in place, then sanded it smooth. Jack Phillips NX899JP Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kringle Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 7:34 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wing Tip Transition I would like to see pictures of how some of you transitioned the wing tip to the leading and trailing edge. Thanks John -------- John Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=371737#371737


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    Time: 04:52:01 PM PST US
    From: airlion <airlion@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: progress info thread
    With all this info, isn't there some kind of thing that every one could enter their info and it would come out automatically? Gardiner ________________________________ From: "AMsafetyC@aol.com" <AMsafetyC@aol.com> Sent: Tue, April 24, 2012 7:32:29 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: progress info thread Kevin, in a word, NO! juss expressing thoughts Do not archive John


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    Time: 05:40:55 PM PST US
    From: AMsafetyC@aol.com
    Subject: Re: progress info thread
    Gardner, I would be okay with entering all my information into the database that's already been created by Jack and if there were a specific format of information being requested so it became a set of data sheets connected to each builder for everyone to see. along with the W&B information that Ryan worked on with WW at the Brodhead weigh in. That would be a use worthy of the information now floating around on the card table. John Do not archive, it makes no never mind to me, juss sayin


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    Time: 05:57:38 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Wing Tip Transition
    From: "giacummo" <mario.giacummo@gmail.com>
    May be this help?.. -------- Mario Giacummo http://vgmk1.blogspot.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=371744#371744 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc04443_105.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc04445_837.jpg


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    Time: 06:07:46 PM PST US
    From: "C N Campbell" <cncampbell@windstream.net>
    Subject: Re: Wing Tip Transition
    #2. John, as you will notice in some of my pictures, I didn't take the aileron all the way to the tip. I used what some call an "encapsulated" aileron. C ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kringle" <Mrkringles@msn.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 7:34 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wing Tip Transition > > I would like to see pictures of how some of you transitioned the wing tip > to the leading and trailing edge. > > Thanks > John > > -------- > John > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=371737#371737 > > >


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    Time: 07:15:07 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Corvair CHT
    From: "skellytown flyer" <skellflyer1@yahoo.com>
    do you have the bottom air baffles under the cylinders? also I made some close fitting plates to fit against the rear of the heads to prevent air escaping at the back and force it all down through the cylinder/ head fins with the exception of the oil cooler and tried to close any areas around the outside of that also.my single temp pickup is under one head bolt nut- when checked on the ground runs with a good quality heat gun the readings were within 15 to 20 degrees of the surrounding head surfaces. and mine never climbed over 290 in early testing. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=371746#371746


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    Time: 07:18:31 PM PST US
    From: "Chris" <catdesigns@att.net>
    Subject: Wing Tip Transition
    John I made the top of the wing tip bow to be flush with the top of the leading edge. The bottom of the leading edge was tapered from the last wing rib up to the bottom of wing tip bow. I also added a filler block behind the joint so I could radius the corner. http://westcoastpiet.com/images/Chris%20Tracy/images/IMG_5559.JPG You didn't ask but you will also need to taper the wing tip bow to the thickness of the aileron trailing edge. My taper starts just past the rear spar. I made the top of the bow equal to the top of the trailing edge so all I had to do was make one cut off the bottom of the bow. http://westcoastpiet.com/images/Chris%20Tracy/images/IMG_5560.JPG Chris Sacramento, Ca Westcoastpiet.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kringle Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 4:34 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wing Tip Transition I would like to see pictures of how some of you transitioned the wing tip to the leading and trailing edge. Thanks John -------- John Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=371737#371737


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    Time: 08:27:33 PM PST US
    From: Hans van der Voort <nx15kv@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: FW: Corvair CHT
    Rod,=0A=C2-=0AClean up the heads, remove all casting flashing.=0AThat thi n film of aluminum left behind by GM on their mass produced heads.=0A=C2- =0AJust make sure air flows over those fins it makes a BIG difference.=0A =C2-=0AA simple fix that often gets ignored=0A=C2-=0ARegards=0A=C2- =0AHans=0A=C2-=0ANX15KV=0AWaller, TX=0A=0AFrom: Rod Wooller <rmwo@clear.n et.nz>=0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 4:47 PM=0ASubject: Pietenpol-List: FW: Corvair CHT=0A=0A=0AThanks for all t he helpful replies. My cooling eyebrows are as per Hans van der Voort =99s design, but I may need to do some work with high temp silicon to minim ise air leakage as my test pilot recorded CHT=99s of 450F during clim b-out on a 72F day. A flat nose probably doesn=99t help the airflow e ither. Still a lot of testing to do before I get the controls.=0A=C2-=0AT hanks again guys.=0ARod Wooller=0AZK-PAC=0A=C2-=0AFrom:Rod Wooller [mailt o:rodwooller@gmail.com] =0ASent: Monday, 23 April 2012 8:19 PM=0ATo: rmwo@c lear.net.nz=0ASubject: Fwd: Corvair CHT=0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0A---------- Forw arded message ----------=0AFrom: Rod Wooller <rodwooller@gmail.com>=0ADate: Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 9:29 PM=0ASubject: Corvair CHT=0ATo: Pietenpol-List D igest Server <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>, Pietenpol-List Digest List <pi etenpol-list-digest@matronics.com>=0A=0A=0AI have a CHT gauge on my Pietenp ol with sensors under the rear spark plugs of each cylinder head.=0ACan any one tell me the maximum temperature that the Corvair heads should be run at ========




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