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1. 07:31 AM - fabric shrink temperature (Rick Schreiber)
2. 07:36 AM - Re: fabric shrink temperature (Jack Phillips)
3. 07:39 AM - Re: fabric shrink temperature (Gary Boothe)
4. 10:11 AM - Re: fabric shrink temperature (Michael Perez)
5. 10:15 AM - Re: Re: Wing Tip Transition (Michael Perez)
6. 10:23 AM - Re: fabric shrink temperature (kevinpurtee)
7. 02:45 PM - Re: Wing Tip Transition (Don Emch)
8. 04:30 PM - (airlion)
9. 06:39 PM - Re: fabric shrink temperature (IT Girl)
10. 07:48 PM - Re: fabric shrink temperature (helspersew@aol.com)
11. 08:15 PM - Re: Re: Wing Tip Transition (Clif Dawson)
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| Subject: | fabric shrink temperature |
I've just started covering my Piet and I need a consensus of opinion. I
have heard that on a light wooden structure that one needs to be careful
to not over shrink the fabric. What has everyone done? Do I stop at 250
degrees? Go to 300 or even full shrink at 350. At this stage I sure
don't want to warp or break anything.
As a side note, never having covered before I was sweating the process a
little. As everyone has said, its easy, fun and even magical.
Rick Schreiber
Valparaiso IN
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| Subject: | fabric shrink temperature |
I went to 350 on mine. No problem as long as the structure is right.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick
Schreiber
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 10:30 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: fabric shrink temperature
I've just started covering my Piet and I need a consensus of opinion. I
have heard that on a light wooden structure that one needs to be careful
to not over shrink the fabric. What has everyone done? Do I stop at 250
degrees? Go to 300 or even full shrink at 350. At this stage I sure
don't want to warp or break anything.
As a side note, never having covered before I was sweating the process a
little. As everyone has said, its easy, fun and even magical.
Rick Schreiber
Valparaiso IN
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| Subject: | fabric shrink temperature |
Rick,
Glad to hear that you are at that stage...my favorite! I used 1.7 oz fabric
and stopped at 300....call me chicken....
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
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Schreiber
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 7:30 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: fabric shrink temperature
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I've just started covering my Piet and I need a consensus of opinion. I have
heard that on a light wooden structure that one needs to be careful to not
over shrink the fabric. What has everyone done? Do I stop at 250 degrees? Go
to 300 or even full shrink at 350. At this stage I sure don't want to warp
or break anything.
As a side note, never having covered before I was sweating the process a
little. As everyone has said, its easy, fun and even magical.
Rick Schreiber
Valparaiso IN
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| Subject: | fabric shrink temperature |
>From the limited fabric work I have done, (aileron, both elevators, vertica
l stab. and rudder) I went to the full temp.- Everything seemed more the
strong enough and I never once heard anything creek, snap or pop!
Michael Perez
Pietenpol HINT Videos
Karetaker Aero
www.karetakeraero.com
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| Subject: | Re: Wing Tip Transition |
Don,- I had the wing tip shape in mind soon after I started building the
wings. As the process started coming together, things fell into place as yo
u see them in my pictures.- Like Chuck had mentioned, I personally like t
he looks of having the elevators stop short of the tip.
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Michael Perez
Pietenpol HINT Videos
Karetaker Aero
www.karetakeraero.com
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| Subject: | Re: fabric shrink temperature |
Rick - I went to whatever Polyfiber said to go to. 350? I had one problem with
the fabric on the top of the wing deforming the structure around the fuel tank
hole. Hurt my feelings a little bit but I reinforced the woodwork and drove
on. Jack's right: if the structure is sound you won't have a problem. I thought
the structure around the wing tank was sufficient but it obviously wasn't.
The rest of the shrinking process was trouble-free, and was actually my absolute
favorite part of the build.
The piet's really stout and there should be no problem with tearing up a plans-built
airplane when shrinking the fabric to the manufacturer's standard.
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Kevin "Axel" Purtee
NX899KP
Austin/San Marcos, TX
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| Subject: | Re: Wing Tip Transition |
Michael and Chuck,
Personal preference is as good a reason as any I guess. I think the ailerons extending
all the way to the end was more popular in the 20's and early 30's. Later
on as they developed more effective ailerons I think they started to end
them before the end of the wing. Some of the early Travel Airs, Wacos, etc. had
"elephant ears" or ailerons that actually extended past the wingtip. So I
guess it was the thing to do back then.
Don Emch
NX899DE
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Hey fellow listers. I had a great visit with Jerry Dotson and hie wife Bobbie.
You should listen to him when he talks about how do things. His workmanship is
superb== Metal wise and woodworking. Cabanes and struts are outstanding.. He
has a nice 1300 ft strip way out in the boonies. It is kind of hard to get to
so I spent a half a day going Boonie Hopping. Gardiner
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| Subject: | Re: fabric shrink temperature |
I recall a lot of creaking, snapping and various sounds (maybe the sounds were
from my aching back) but I agree with Kevin, it was a magical process. It was
awesome watching the fabric tighten
do not archive
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Shelley Tumino
IT Girl
wife of "Axel"
NX899KP
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Re: fabric shrink temperature |
Rick,
I went with 350, BUT make sure you reinforce the end ribs. In my case (one-
piece wing) the rib adjacent to the tank (center) was pulled out of positio
n a little. Not good.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Schreiber <lmforge@earthlink.net>
Sent: Sun, Apr 29, 2012 9:31 am
Subject: Pietenpol-List: fabric shrink temperature
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I've just started covering my Piet and I need a consensus of opinion. I
ave heard that on a light wooden structure that one needs to be careful
o not over shrink the fabric. What has everyone done? Do I stop at 250
egrees? Go to 300 or even full shrink at 350. At this stage I sure
on't want to warp or break anything.
As a side note, never having covered before I was sweating the process a
ittle. As everyone has said, its easy, fun and even magical.
Rick Schreiber
alparaiso IN
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| Subject: | Re: Wing Tip Transition |
Bellanca tips. :-)
Long and distinquished history.
Clif
To most people the sky is the limit.
To a pilot, the sky is home.
Don, I had the wing tip shape in mind soon after I started
building the wings. Michael Perez
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