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1. 12:24 AM - NX92GB getin close (shad bell)
2. 01:18 AM - Re: Bell crank streamlined tube No. 1667 question. (bubbleboy)
3. 01:26 AM - Re: Re: Bell crank streamlined tube No. 1667 question. (Chris)
4. 01:47 AM - Re: Bell crank streamlined tube No. 1667 question. (bubbleboy)
5. 03:36 AM - Re: Re: Bell crank streamlined tube No. 1667 question. (Jack@textors.com)
6. 04:41 AM - Carb heat knob (bubbleboy)
7. 05:36 AM - cover adhesive (giacummo)
8. 05:45 AM - Re: Carb heat knob (Gary Boothe)
9. 06:12 AM - Re: cover adhesive (Gary Boothe)
10. 06:52 AM - Re: cover adhesive (giacummo)
11. 04:11 PM - Fw: Fw: glass steam engine (airlion)
12. 05:07 PM - cover adhesive (santiago morete)
13. 05:47 PM - Re: four minute video of possible interest (aerocarjake)
14. 06:58 PM - Re: Carb heat knob (helspersew@aol.com)
15. 06:59 PM - Re: Carb heat knob (Greg Cardinal)
16. 07:10 PM - Re: Carb heat knob (Gary Boothe)
17. 07:41 PM - Brodhead Fly-in 2012 (IT Girl)
18. 07:46 PM - Re: four minute video of possible interest (Greg Cardinal)
19. 10:26 PM - Re: Carb heat knob (bubbleboy)
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Subject: | NX92GB getin close |
Well it's 3am and I just came in from the hangar, got the piet just about r
eady for engine runs, leak checks.- Had to take the top cover off the fue
l tank (center section), to clean it up so I can re-seal the filler neck, a
s we got a little water, and fuel running down there last summer at Brodhea
d.- I also had to put a flush patch on the cowling where a crack had been
propigating.- Got it all primed and painted, just ned to re seal the cow
ling exsaust lip on the bottom of the cowl with pro seal and check the timi
ng etc.- I'd better get my butt to bed, because I got to get up at 8 am a
nd start working on the patio so I can go flying on saturday.- To Kevin:
I am too tired to come up with big words of BS at the moment, I'll try agai
n later.
-
Shad
NX92GB
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Subject: | Re: Bell crank streamlined tube No. 1667 question. |
Thanks Jack...will give it a try! Once squashed, do I let it cool normally or dip
it in Oil/water?
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Tamworth, Australia
Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper
www.scottyspietenpol.com
Rudder, Vert stab, Elevators, Hor Stab and Ribs built...About to start fuselage...Corvair
engine at Roy's Garage waiting to be modified.
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Subject: | Re: Bell crank streamlined tube No. 1667 question. |
Scott
Just heat it up, squish then let it cool slowly in a draft free location. By
the way, if it starts to get hard to squish, you need to heat it again.
Chris
Sacramento, Ca
Westcoastpiet.com
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Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Bell crank streamlined tube No. 1667 question.
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Thanks Jack...will give it a try! Once squashed, do I let it cool normally
or dip it in Oil/water?
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Tamworth, Australia
Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper
www.scottyspietenpol.com
Rudder, Vert stab, Elevators, Hor Stab and Ribs built...About to start
fuselage...Corvair engine at Roy's Garage waiting to be modified.
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Subject: | Re: Bell crank streamlined tube No. 1667 question. |
Thanks Chris...its been 25 years since I have done this kind of thing at school!
Thanks mate!
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Tamworth, Australia
Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper
www.scottyspietenpol.com
Rudder, Vert stab, Elevators, Hor Stab and Ribs built...About to start fuselage...Corvair
engine at Roy's Garage waiting to be modified.
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Subject: | Re: Bell crank streamlined tube No. 1667 question. |
What Chris said, cool on its own. Dipping in oil would temper it and you would
cuss when drilling
Jack Textor
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On May 11, 2012, at 3:17 AM, "bubbleboy" <scott.dawson3@bigpond.com> wrote:
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> Thanks Jack...will give it a try! Once squashed, do I let it cool normally or
dip it in Oil/water?
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> Tamworth, Australia
> Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper
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> www.scottyspietenpol.com
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> Rudder, Vert stab, Elevators, Hor Stab and Ribs built...About to start fuselage...Corvair
engine at Roy's Garage waiting to be modified.
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Where can I find a carb heat knob and cable assembly which has an old style brass
or metal knob. I have seen the assemblies with plastic knobs but want something
in brass or the like.
Scotty
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Tamworth, Australia
Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper
www.scottyspietenpol.com
Rudder, Vert stab, Elevators, Hor Stab and Ribs built...About to start fuselage...Corvair
engine at Roy's Garage waiting to be modified.
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Hello,
Between structure jobs and others thing I begin to cover the rudder and the stabilizer
to practice and learn about the covering process. I bought a book from
Poly-Fiber, read an other one from the 70's wich talk about all the differents
technics (even fiberglass..), and after all and with the resources I have I
decide to coverit with Dacron fabric and polytak.
It is easy, and the finall result is excelent. But.. I had a big problem... I can
not find Poly-Tak in my country, buy it in Aircraftspruce it is a possibility,
but cost USS 300 the delivery cost because it is a "dangerous product".. I
bought a qt in Argentina, very expensive, few months ago, so I use Poly tak just
for the borders joins, all the other jobs like the reinforced tapes I use
conctact cement, and as I can saw it work perfect, the only problem I found is
that you have just one opportunuty to do the job, you can not make adjusts, so
some little wrinkles in the curved parts result.
Why nobody use contact cement?, I am talking about the one based on toluol, the
one you have to brush both surfaces, wait some minutes and join them... It is
very strong as I can see, with care is easy to apply, is cheep, but I can imagine
that in big fabric pieces could be difficult ti apply. Is there another
reason because nobody use it it?
regards.
Mario
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http://vgmk1.blogspot.com
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You could make your own, Scotty! Those plastic knobs just screw off and on.
Get a chunk of brass, 1"x1", drill it, tap it (now you have a way to hold it
in the vise), then start filing. It'll keep you out of the pub for at least
2 nights...
St. Gary
NX308MB
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bubbleboy
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 4:41 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Carb heat knob
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Where can I find a carb heat knob and cable assembly which has an old style
brass or metal knob. I have seen the assemblies with plastic knobs but want
something in brass or the like.
Scotty
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Tamworth, Australia
Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper
www.scottyspietenpol.com
Rudder, Vert stab, Elevators, Hor Stab and Ribs built...About to start
fuselage...Corvair engine at Roy's Garage waiting to be modified.
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Mario,
Two questions you may ask (well, there are lots of questions, like: Is it
flammable?), but two that come to mind are:
1) How does UV affect contact cement?
2) What holding power does it have at 100 knots? 150 knots?
You may never find the answer to those questions, because; A) it's never
been tested, B) it performed so badly that it's not a good consideration.
I have used Polytak and have nothing bad to say about it. Given your
shipping issues, though, you may want to take a look at Stewart Systems
Eko-bond. That's what I used this time around and it is very easy to work
with! It's a zero VOC product and you should have an easier time with
shipping.
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of giacummo
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 5:36 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: cover adhesive
--> <mario.giacummo@gmail.com>
Hello,
Between structure jobs and others thing I begin to cover the rudder and the
stabilizer to practice and learn about the covering process. I bought a book
from Poly-Fiber, read an other one from the 70's wich talk about all the
differents technics (even fiberglass..), and after all and with the
resources I have I decide to coverit with Dacron fabric and polytak.
It is easy, and the finall result is excelent. But.. I had a big problem...
I can not find Poly-Tak in my country, buy it in Aircraftspruce it is a
possibility, but cost USS 300 the delivery cost because it is a "dangerous
product".. I bought a qt in Argentina, very expensive, few months ago, so I
use Poly tak just for the borders joins, all the other jobs like the
reinforced tapes I use conctact cement, and as I can saw it work perfect,
the only problem I found is that you have just one opportunuty to do the
job, you can not make adjusts, so some little wrinkles in the curved parts
result.
Why nobody use contact cement?, I am talking about the one based on toluol,
the one you have to brush both surfaces, wait some minutes and join them...
It is very strong as I can see, with care is easy to apply, is cheep, but I
can imagine that in big fabric pieces could be difficult ti apply. Is there
another reason because nobody use it it?
regards.
Mario
--------
Mario Giacummo
http://vgmk1.blogspot.com
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Subject: | Re: cover adhesive |
Why perform badly?.. not talk about UV, what are the others reasons?
I make some home test with dacron, contact cement, wood, and dacron, polytak, wood,
and the contact cement example was too much stronger in peel off and sheer
than the polytak one; may be we are talking about differnts adhesives or may
be it perform bad over the time? I like the polytak, it is a matter of price
and disponibility, nothing else.
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http://vgmk1.blogspot.com
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Subject: | Fw: Fwd: glass steam engine |
Now here is a good pietenpol engine. Kinda sounds like the ford A model.
Gardiner
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Tax <tax2sum@mindspring.com>; Bud Coward <budcoward@bellsouth.net>; Gardiner
Mason <airlion@bellsouth.net>; "Ken Fosdick, PYM" <kefent@aol.com>; Mike Tenney
- (H) <rags.dux@verizon.net>; Oakley Weyant <weyantol@att.net>; Richard Ludders
<rludders@hoyletanner.com>; Stephen Adams <sadams8027@aol.com>; Tom Maher
<pym246s@aol.com>; Walter Lockhart <pegasuswllcal@comcast.net>
Sent: Fri, May 11, 2012 6:47:31 PM
Subject: Fwd: glass steam engine
Subject: glass steam engine
>
>For the engineers out there
>
>http://redux.com/stream/item/2134517/Working-Model-of-Stephenson-s-STEAM-ENGINE-made-of-GLASS-Rare
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Hola Mario,-=0A=0AYou can use contact cement, that's what most people hav
e been using here for many many years without any problems.-=0A=0ASaludos
=0A=0ASantiago
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Subject: | Re: four minute video of possible interest |
VERY, VERY nice Mike.... Simple, basic and elegant - awesome. Thx....
Do not archive
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Jake Schultz - curator,
Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)
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Subject: | Re: Carb heat knob |
OK Gary,
Enough with the St. prefix. You're stretching your five minutes of fame and
honor out a little too far.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net>
Sent: Fri, May 11, 2012 7:46 am
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Carb heat knob
You could make your own, Scotty! Those plastic knobs just screw off and on.
et a chunk of brass, 1"x1", drill it, tap it (now you have a way to hold it
n the vise), then start filing. It'll keep you out of the pub for at least
nights...
St. Gary
X308MB
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mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bubbleboy
ent: Friday, May 11, 2012 4:41 AM
o: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
ubject: Pietenpol-List: Carb heat knob
-> <scott.dawson3@bigpond.com>
Where can I find a carb heat knob and cable assembly which has an old style
rass or metal knob. I have seen the assemblies with plastic knobs but want
omething in brass or the like.
Scotty
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amworth, Australia
uilding a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper
www.scottyspietenpol.com
Rudder, Vert stab, Elevators, Hor Stab and Ribs built...About to start
uselage...Corvair engine at Roy's Garage waiting to be modified.
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Subject: | Re: Carb heat knob |
Knobs can be found here:
http://www.reidsupply.com/detail.aspx?itm=BBF-75
Greg Cardinal
----- Original Message -----
From: "bubbleboy" <scott.dawson3@bigpond.com>
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 6:41 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Carb heat knob
> <scott.dawson3@bigpond.com>
>
> Where can I find a carb heat knob and cable assembly which has an old
> style brass or metal knob. I have seen the assemblies with plastic knobs
> but want something in brass or the like.
>
> Scotty
>
> --------
> Tamworth, Australia
> Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper
>
> www.scottyspietenpol.com
>
> Rudder, Vert stab, Elevators, Hor Stab and Ribs built...About to start
> fuselage...Corvair engine at Roy's Garage waiting to be modified.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=372811#372811
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It's Kevin's fault.
Gary from Cool
Do not archive
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
helspersew@aol.com
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 6:58 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Carb heat knob
OK Gary,
Enough with the St. prefix. You're stretching your five minutes of fame and
honor out a little too far.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net>
Sent: Fri, May 11, 2012 7:46 am
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Carb heat knob
You could make your own, Scotty! Those plastic knobs just screw off and on.
Get a chunk of brass, 1"x1", drill it, tap it (now you have a way to hold it
in the vise), then start filing. It'll keep you out of the pub for at least
2 nights...
St. Gary
NX308MB
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Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 4:41 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Carb heat knob
--> <scott.dawson3@bigpond.com>
Where can I find a carb heat knob and cable assembly which has an old style
brass or metal knob. I have seen the assemblies with plastic knobs but want
something in brass or the like.
Scotty
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Tamworth, Australia
Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper
www.scottyspietenpol.com <http://www.scottyspietenpol.com/>
Rudder, Vert stab, Elevators, Hor Stab and Ribs built...About to start
fuselage...Corvair engine at Roy's Garage waiting to be modified.
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Subject: | Brodhead Fly-in 2012 |
65 days until we head out from Texas to Brodhead
Can't Wait to see y'all on 19 July 2012
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Shelley Tumino
IT Girl
wife of "Axel"
NX899KP
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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Subject: | Re: four minute video of possible interest |
Very nice video, Mike.
I have been looking at different camera options to mount on the Piet and
want something more than a Go Pro. The Epic Red looked like just the
thing I wanted.
Here is a nice video of it's capabilities: http://vimeo.com/25424362 I
recommend watching it full screen,1080 resolution and crank the volume.
Very nice.
Then I checked out the list prices of these cameras, $40,000 - $70,000
depending on options. I don't think I'm getting an Epic Red....
Greg C.
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From: Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP]
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 7:14 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: four minute video of possible interest
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkGNAqlkQnY
Local friend and aviation film producer Adam White of Hemlock films
(Red Tail Reborn, Restorers, Doolittle Raiders They Were all
Volunteers) came out to the hangar last week to film the Piet and I
trying out his new Red Epic digital video camera.
Evidently the Red Epic camera was hard for Adam to get because the
producers of some of the big movies like the Avengers and
such used this camera and bought up the first 50 produced!
Mike C.
http://www.hemlockfilms.com/Hemlock_Films/Main.html
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Subject: | Re: Carb heat knob |
Greg...thanks mate...a great start!
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Tamworth, Australia
Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper
www.scottyspietenpol.com
Rudder, Vert stab, Elevators, Hor Stab and Ribs built...About to start fuselage...Corvair
engine at Roy's Garage waiting to be modified.
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