Pietenpol-List Digest Mon 05/21/12

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Mon 05/21/12

Total Messages Posted: 12



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 08:44 AM - Re: Rib Cap Strip (dgaldrich)
     2. 08:44 AM - Re: Douglas Fir for Tail Feathers Available (dgaldrich)
     3. 12:39 PM - Turtle deck progress.... 3.5 lb (aerocarjake)
     4. 12:58 PM - Re: Turtle deck progress.... 3.5 lb (John Hofmann)
     5. 01:28 PM - Re: Turtle deck progress.... 3.5 lb (aerocarjake)
     6. 02:01 PM - Re: Re: Turtle deck progress.... 3.5 lb (Ryan Mueller)
     7. 02:29 PM - Re: Turtle deck progress.... 3.5 lb (Jack@textors.com)
     8. 02:30 PM - Re: Re: Turtle deck progress.... 3.5 lb (Jack@textors.com)
     9. 04:14 PM - Re: Turtle deck progress.... 3.5 lb (aerocarjake)
    10. 05:05 PM - Re: Turtle deck progress.... 3.5 lb (Jack Phillips)
    11. 05:26 PM - Re: Re: Turtle deck progress.... 3.5 lb (Jack@textors.com)
    12. 05:46 PM - Re: Turtle deck progress.... 3.5 lb (Jack)
 
 
 

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Time: 08:44:25 AM PST US
Subject: Re: Rib Cap Strip
From: "dgaldrich" <dgaldrich@embarqmail.com>      
      
      Sold.
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=373486#373486
      
      

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Time: 08:44:38 AM PST US
Subject: Re: Douglas Fir for Tail Feathers Available
From: "dgaldrich" <dgaldrich@embarqmail.com>      
      
      Sold
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=373487#373487
      
      

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Time: 12:39:49 PM PST US
Subject: Turtle deck progress.... 3.5 lb
From: "aerocarjake" <flight.jake@gmail.com>      
      
      Hello good Piet-ple...
      
      Been making progress on the turtle deck and thought I'd share some images.......
      
      A few observations:
      
      ==>  It turned out 3.5 lb
      
      ==>  I do not have a "helmet box" per plans as I am trying to add as little weight
      as possible aft of the CG
      
      ==>  The 1/16 plywood didn't bend around the contour as well as I had thought -
      so I had to soak it in my bathtub overnight to get it to form. (I let it dry
      clamped in position before I glued it.)
      
      ==>  The 1/4 inch dowels are glued "1/2 way" into each stringer to stabilize the
      stringers when I cover the turtle deck with fabric.
      
      ==>  I glued up the assembly, trimmed, sanded, and then added/glued and trimmed
      the "bubinga" veneer. I have since routed the slots for the pilot's shoulder
      harness straps.
      
      ==>  Having a good time...
      
      --------
      Jake Schultz - curator,
      Newport Way Air Museum  (OK, it's just my home)
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=373501#373501
      
      
      Attachments: 
      
      http://forums.matronics.com//files/underside_585.jpg
      http://forums.matronics.com//files/1_turtle_deck_348.jpg
      http://forums.matronics.com//files/2_turtle_deck_883.jpg
      http://forums.matronics.com//files/4_turtle_deck_169.jpg
      http://forums.matronics.com//files/5_turtle_deck_191.jpg
      http://forums.matronics.com//files/6_turtle_deck_440.jpg
      
      

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Time: 12:58:11 PM PST US
From: John Hofmann <jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com>
Subject: Re: Turtle deck progress.... 3.5 lb      
      Hi Jake,
      
      Looking good. I want to lobby you for the helmet box. I don't have one 
      on 502Rocket and it is a pain. People don't think the box is very useful 
      but when you don't have anyplace to put even a quart of oil (which I put 
      next to me on the seat now) it comes in handy. Plus it gives you a place 
      to put stuff while you are on the ground at a flyin (for those out of 
      sight out of mind moments) like your handheld or portable gps. I really 
      wish I did have one.
      
      -john-
      
      John Hofmann
      Vice-President, Information Technology
      The Rees Group, Inc.
      2424 American Lane
      Madison, WI 53704
      Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
      Fax: 608.443.2474
      Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com
      
      On May 21, 2012, at 2:38 PM, aerocarjake wrote:
      
      <flight.jake@gmail.com>
      > 
      > Hello good Piet-ple...
      > 
      > Been making progress on the turtle deck and thought I'd share some 
      images.......
      > 
      > A few observations:
      > 
      > ==>  It turned out 3.5 lb
      > 
      > ==>  I do not have a "helmet box" per plans as I am trying to add 
      as little weight as possible aft of the CG
      > 
      > ==>  The 1/16 plywood didn't bend around the contour as well as I 
      had thought - so I had to soak it in my bathtub overnight to get it to 
      form. (I let it dry clamped in position before I glued it.)
      > 
      > ==>  The 1/4 inch dowels are glued "1/2 way" into each stringer to 
      stabilize the stringers when I cover the turtle deck with fabric.
      > 
      > ==>  I glued up the assembly, trimmed, sanded, and then 
      added/glued and trimmed the "bubinga" veneer. I have since routed the 
      slots for the pilot's shoulder harness straps.
      > 
      > ==>  Having a good time...
      > 
      > --------
      > Jake Schultz - curator,
      > Newport Way Air Museum  (OK, it's just my home)
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > Read this topic online here:
      > 
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=373501#373501
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > Attachments: 
      > 
      > http://forums.matronics.com//files/underside_585.jpg
      > http://forums.matronics.com//files/1_turtle_deck_348.jpg
      > http://forums.matronics.com//files/2_turtle_deck_883.jpg
      > http://forums.matronics.com//files/4_turtle_deck_169.jpg
      > http://forums.matronics.com//files/5_turtle_deck_191.jpg
      > http://forums.matronics.com//files/6_turtle_deck_440.jpg
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      
      

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Time: 01:28:34 PM PST US
Subject: Re: Turtle deck progress.... 3.5 lb
From: "aerocarjake" <flight.jake@gmail.com>      
      
      Thanks for the input John.... I am incorporating a storage area forward of the
      passenger seat. I will have no pax instruments so am using that area as a glove
      compartment - so to speak.  (I've incorporated "modern" hidden cabinet hinges
      to hide the mechanism.)
      
      --------
      Jake Schultz - curator,
      Newport Way Air Museum  (OK, it's just my home)
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=373507#373507
      
      
      Attachments: 
      
      http://forums.matronics.com//files/_map_box_closed_150.jpg
      http://forums.matronics.com//files/_map_box_open_416.jpg
      
      

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Time: 02:01:15 PM PST US
Subject: Re: Turtle deck progress.... 3.5 lb
From: Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com>      
      So that's how you hide a cabinet....
      
      do not archive
      
      On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 3:28 PM, aerocarjake <flight.jake@gmail.com> wrote:
      
      > >
      >
      > Thanks for the input John.... I am incorporating a storage area forward of
      > the passenger seat. I will have no pax instruments so am using that area as
      > a glove compartment - so to speak.  (I've incorporated "modern" hidden
      > cabinet hinges to hide the mechanism.)
      >
      > --------
      > Jake Schultz - curator,
      > Newport Way Air Museum  (OK, it's just my home)
      >
      >
      > Read this topic online here:
      >
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=373507#373507
      >
      >
      > Attachments:
      >
      > http://forums.matronics.com//files/_map_box_closed_150.jpg
      > http://forums.matronics.com//files/_map_box_open_416.jpg
      >
      >
      

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Time: 02:29:29 PM PST US
Subject: Re: Turtle deck progress.... 3.5 lb
From: "Jack@textors.com" <jack@textors.com>      
      
      Jake perfection, as usual...
      
      Jack Textor
      Sent from my iPad
      
      On May 21, 2012, at 2:38 PM, "aerocarjake" <flight.jake@gmail.com> wrote:
      
      > 
      > Hello good Piet-ple...
      > 
      > Been making progress on the turtle deck and thought I'd share some images.......
      > 
      > A few observations:
      > 
      > ==>  It turned out 3.5 lb
      > 
      > ==>  I do not have a "helmet box" per plans as I am trying to add as little weight
      as possible aft of the CG
      > 
      > ==>  The 1/16 plywood didn't bend around the contour as well as I had thought
      - so I had to soak it in my bathtub overnight to get it to form. (I let it dry
      clamped in position before I glued it.)
      > 
      > ==>  The 1/4 inch dowels are glued "1/2 way" into each stringer to stabilize
      the stringers when I cover the turtle deck with fabric.
      > 
      > ==>  I glued up the assembly, trimmed, sanded, and then added/glued and trimmed
      the "bubinga" veneer. I have since routed the slots for the pilot's shoulder
      harness straps.
      > 
      > ==>  Having a good time...
      > 
      > --------
      > Jake Schultz - curator,
      > Newport Way Air Museum  (OK, it's just my home)
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > Read this topic online here:
      > 
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=373501#373501
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > Attachments: 
      > 
      > http://forums.matronics.com//files/underside_585.jpg
      > http://forums.matronics.com//files/1_turtle_deck_348.jpg
      > http://forums.matronics.com//files/2_turtle_deck_883.jpg
      > http://forums.matronics.com//files/4_turtle_deck_169.jpg
      > http://forums.matronics.com//files/5_turtle_deck_191.jpg
      > http://forums.matronics.com//files/6_turtle_deck_440.jpg
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      
      

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Time: 02:30:30 PM PST US
Subject: Re: Turtle deck progress.... 3.5 lb
From: "Jack@textors.com" <jack@textors.com>      
      
      Jake those are not AN, shame on you :)
      
      Jack Textor
      Sent from my iPad
      Do not archive
      
      On May 21, 2012, at 3:28 PM, "aerocarjake" <flight.jake@gmail.com> wrote:
      
      > 
      > Thanks for the input John.... I am incorporating a storage area forward of the
      passenger seat. I will have no pax instruments so am using that area as a glove
      compartment - so to speak.  (I've incorporated "modern" hidden cabinet hinges
      to hide the mechanism.)
      > 
      > --------
      > Jake Schultz - curator,
      > Newport Way Air Museum  (OK, it's just my home)
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > Read this topic online here:
      > 
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=373507#373507
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > Attachments: 
      > 
      > http://forums.matronics.com//files/_map_box_closed_150.jpg
      > http://forums.matronics.com//files/_map_box_open_416.jpg
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      
      

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Time: 04:14:16 PM PST US
Subject: Re: Turtle deck progress.... 3.5 lb
From: "aerocarjake" <flight.jake@gmail.com>      
      
      Ha, yep... genuine AN cabinet hardware from Home Depot(!)
      
      I spent quite a long time in their hardware aisle looking for hinges that would
      work for this situation. I want my Piet to LOOK old but have some of the conveniences
      of today.
      
      --------
      Jake Schultz - curator,
      Newport Way Air Museum  (OK, it's just my home)
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=373518#373518
      
      

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Time: 05:05:52 PM PST US
From: "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Turtle deck progress.... 3.5 lb      
      I=92ll echo what John said.  I have a helmet box on mine, made from 
      1/16=94
      birch plywood on the top, =BC=94 plywood for the sides and bottom, 
      routed out to
      save weight, with a little fiberglass reinforcement so it weighs very 
      little
      but is a huge help in keeping things that you will need.  In it when 
      parked
      at a fly-in I can keep both flying helmets and two sets of goggles, my 
      GPS,
      a few essential tools and a couple of granola bars, as well as a couple 
      of
      sectional charts.  I use it nearly every time I fly.   Here are a couple 
      of
      pics of it:
      
      
      Your tutledeck is looking great.  You are going to have a very nice
      Pietenpol.
      
      
      Jack Phillips
      
      NX899JP
      
      Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
      
      
        _____  
      
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John 
      Hofmann
      Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 3:58 PM
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Turtle deck progress.... 3.5 lb
      
      
      Hi Jake,
      
      
      Looking good. I want to lobby you for the helmet box. I don't have one 
      on
      502Rocket and it is a pain. People don't think the box is very useful 
      but
      when you don't have anyplace to put even a quart of oil (which I put 
      next to
      me on the seat now) it comes in handy. Plus it gives you a place to put
      stuff while you are on the ground at a flyin (for those out of sight out 
      of
      mind moments) like your handheld or portable gps. I really wish I did 
      have
      one.
      
      
      -john-
      
      
      John Hofmann
      
      Vice-President, Information Technology
      
      The Rees Group, Inc.
      
      2424 American Lane
      
      Madison, WI 53704
      
      Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
      
      Fax: 608.443.2474
      
      Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com
      
      
      On May 21, 2012, at 2:38 PM, aerocarjake wrote:
      
      
      <flight.jake@gmail.com>
      
      Hello good Piet-ple...
      
      Been making progress on the turtle deck and thought I'd share some
      images.......
      
      A few observations:
      
      ==>  It turned out 3.5 lb
      
      ==>  I do not have a "helmet box" per plans as I am trying to add as 
      little
      weight as possible aft of the CG
      
      ==>  The 1/16 plywood didn't bend around the contour as well as I 
      had
      thought - so I had to soak it in my bathtub overnight to get it to form. 
      (I
      let it dry clamped in position before I glued it.)
      
      ==>  The 1/4 inch dowels are glued "1/2 way" into each stringer to 
      stabilize
      the stringers when I cover the turtle deck with fabric.
      
      ==>  I glued up the assembly, trimmed, sanded, and then added/glued 
      and
      trimmed the "bubinga" veneer. I have since routed the slots for the 
      pilot's
      shoulder harness straps.
      
      ==>  Having a good time...
      
      --------
      Jake Schultz - curator,
      Newport Way Air Museum  (OK, it's just my home)
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=373501#373501
      
      
      Attachments: 
      
      http://forums.matronics.com//files/underside_585.jpg
      http://forums.matronics.com//files/1_turtle_deck_348.jpg
      http://forums.matronics.com//files/2_turtle_deck_883.jpg
      http://forums.matronics.com//files/4_turtle_deck_169.jpg
      http://forums.matronics.com//files/5_turtle_deck_191.jpg
      http://forums.matronics.com//files/6_turtle_deck_440.jpg
      
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Time: 05:26:36 PM PST US
Subject: Re: Turtle deck progress.... 3.5 lb
From: "Jack@textors.com" <jack@textors.com>      
      
      Wish I had done the same...
      
      Jack Textor
      Sent from my iPad
      Do not archive
      
      On May 21, 2012, at 6:13 PM, "aerocarjake" <flight.jake@gmail.com> wrote:
      
      > 
      > Ha, yep... genuine AN cabinet hardware from Home Depot(!)
      > 
      > I spent quite a long time in their hardware aisle looking for hinges that would
      work for this situation. I want my Piet to LOOK old but have some of the conveniences
      of today.
      > 
      > --------
      > Jake Schultz - curator,
      > Newport Way Air Museum  (OK, it's just my home)
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > Read this topic online here:
      > 
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=373518#373518
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      
      

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Time: 05:46:39 PM PST US
From: "Jack" <jack@textors.com>
Subject: Turtle deck progress.... 3.5 lb      
      
      Jake I made the mistake of adding extra stringers for what I hope will
      improve the decks appearance.  I just weighed mine and it is 5 pounds.
      http://textors.com/IMG_4220_640x427.jpg 
      Jack Textor
      DSM
      NX1929T
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of aerocarjake
      Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 2:39 PM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Turtle deck progress.... 3.5 lb
      
      
      Hello good Piet-ple...
      
      Been making progress on the turtle deck and thought I'd share some
      images.......
      
      A few observations:
      
      ==>  It turned out 3.5 lb
      
      ==>  I do not have a "helmet box" per plans as I am trying to add as little
      weight as possible aft of the CG
      
      ==>  The 1/16 plywood didn't bend around the contour as well as I had
      thought - so I had to soak it in my bathtub overnight to get it to form. (I
      let it dry clamped in position before I glued it.)
      
      ==>  The 1/4 inch dowels are glued "1/2 way" into each stringer to stabilize
      the stringers when I cover the turtle deck with fabric.
      
      ==>  I glued up the assembly, trimmed, sanded, and then added/glued and
      trimmed the "bubinga" veneer. I have since routed the slots for the pilot's
      shoulder harness straps.
      
      ==>  Having a good time...
      
      --------
      Jake Schultz - curator,
      Newport Way Air Museum  (OK, it's just my home)
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=373501#373501
      
      
      Attachments: 
      
      http://forums.matronics.com//files/underside_585.jpg
      http://forums.matronics.com//files/1_turtle_deck_348.jpg
      http://forums.matronics.com//files/2_turtle_deck_883.jpg
      http://forums.matronics.com//files/4_turtle_deck_169.jpg
      http://forums.matronics.com//files/5_turtle_deck_191.jpg
      http://forums.matronics.com//files/6_turtle_deck_440.jpg
      
      








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