---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 05/21/12: 12 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 08:44 AM - Re: Rib Cap Strip (dgaldrich) 2. 08:44 AM - Re: Douglas Fir for Tail Feathers Available (dgaldrich) 3. 12:39 PM - Turtle deck progress.... 3.5 lb (aerocarjake) 4. 12:58 PM - Re: Turtle deck progress.... 3.5 lb (John Hofmann) 5. 01:28 PM - Re: Turtle deck progress.... 3.5 lb (aerocarjake) 6. 02:01 PM - Re: Re: Turtle deck progress.... 3.5 lb (Ryan Mueller) 7. 02:29 PM - Re: Turtle deck progress.... 3.5 lb (Jack@textors.com) 8. 02:30 PM - Re: Re: Turtle deck progress.... 3.5 lb (Jack@textors.com) 9. 04:14 PM - Re: Turtle deck progress.... 3.5 lb (aerocarjake) 10. 05:05 PM - Re: Turtle deck progress.... 3.5 lb (Jack Phillips) 11. 05:26 PM - Re: Re: Turtle deck progress.... 3.5 lb (Jack@textors.com) 12. 05:46 PM - Re: Turtle deck progress.... 3.5 lb (Jack) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 08:44:25 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Rib Cap Strip From: "dgaldrich" Sold. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=373486#373486 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:44:38 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Douglas Fir for Tail Feathers Available From: "dgaldrich" Sold Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=373487#373487 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 12:39:49 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Turtle deck progress.... 3.5 lb From: "aerocarjake" Hello good Piet-ple... Been making progress on the turtle deck and thought I'd share some images....... A few observations: ==> It turned out 3.5 lb ==> I do not have a "helmet box" per plans as I am trying to add as little weight as possible aft of the CG ==> The 1/16 plywood didn't bend around the contour as well as I had thought - so I had to soak it in my bathtub overnight to get it to form. (I let it dry clamped in position before I glued it.) ==> The 1/4 inch dowels are glued "1/2 way" into each stringer to stabilize the stringers when I cover the turtle deck with fabric. ==> I glued up the assembly, trimmed, sanded, and then added/glued and trimmed the "bubinga" veneer. I have since routed the slots for the pilot's shoulder harness straps. ==> Having a good time... -------- Jake Schultz - curator, Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=373501#373501 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/underside_585.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/1_turtle_deck_348.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/2_turtle_deck_883.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/4_turtle_deck_169.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/5_turtle_deck_191.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/6_turtle_deck_440.jpg ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 12:58:11 PM PST US From: John Hofmann Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Turtle deck progress.... 3.5 lb Hi Jake, Looking good. I want to lobby you for the helmet box. I don't have one on 502Rocket and it is a pain. People don't think the box is very useful but when you don't have anyplace to put even a quart of oil (which I put next to me on the seat now) it comes in handy. Plus it gives you a place to put stuff while you are on the ground at a flyin (for those out of sight out of mind moments) like your handheld or portable gps. I really wish I did have one. -john- John Hofmann Vice-President, Information Technology The Rees Group, Inc. 2424 American Lane Madison, WI 53704 Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150 Fax: 608.443.2474 Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com On May 21, 2012, at 2:38 PM, aerocarjake wrote: > > Hello good Piet-ple... > > Been making progress on the turtle deck and thought I'd share some images....... > > A few observations: > > ==> It turned out 3.5 lb > > ==> I do not have a "helmet box" per plans as I am trying to add as little weight as possible aft of the CG > > ==> The 1/16 plywood didn't bend around the contour as well as I had thought - so I had to soak it in my bathtub overnight to get it to form. (I let it dry clamped in position before I glued it.) > > ==> The 1/4 inch dowels are glued "1/2 way" into each stringer to stabilize the stringers when I cover the turtle deck with fabric. > > ==> I glued up the assembly, trimmed, sanded, and then added/glued and trimmed the "bubinga" veneer. I have since routed the slots for the pilot's shoulder harness straps. > > ==> Having a good time... > > -------- > Jake Schultz - curator, > Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home) > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=373501#373501 > > > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/underside_585.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/1_turtle_deck_348.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/2_turtle_deck_883.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/4_turtle_deck_169.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/5_turtle_deck_191.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/6_turtle_deck_440.jpg > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 01:28:34 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Turtle deck progress.... 3.5 lb From: "aerocarjake" Thanks for the input John.... I am incorporating a storage area forward of the passenger seat. I will have no pax instruments so am using that area as a glove compartment - so to speak. (I've incorporated "modern" hidden cabinet hinges to hide the mechanism.) -------- Jake Schultz - curator, Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=373507#373507 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/_map_box_closed_150.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/_map_box_open_416.jpg ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 02:01:15 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Turtle deck progress.... 3.5 lb From: Ryan Mueller So that's how you hide a cabinet.... do not archive On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 3:28 PM, aerocarjake wrote: > > > > Thanks for the input John.... I am incorporating a storage area forward of > the passenger seat. I will have no pax instruments so am using that area as > a glove compartment - so to speak. (I've incorporated "modern" hidden > cabinet hinges to hide the mechanism.) > > -------- > Jake Schultz - curator, > Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home) > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=373507#373507 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/_map_box_closed_150.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/_map_box_open_416.jpg > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 02:29:29 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Turtle deck progress.... 3.5 lb From: "Jack@textors.com" Jake perfection, as usual... Jack Textor Sent from my iPad On May 21, 2012, at 2:38 PM, "aerocarjake" wrote: > > Hello good Piet-ple... > > Been making progress on the turtle deck and thought I'd share some images....... > > A few observations: > > ==> It turned out 3.5 lb > > ==> I do not have a "helmet box" per plans as I am trying to add as little weight as possible aft of the CG > > ==> The 1/16 plywood didn't bend around the contour as well as I had thought - so I had to soak it in my bathtub overnight to get it to form. (I let it dry clamped in position before I glued it.) > > ==> The 1/4 inch dowels are glued "1/2 way" into each stringer to stabilize the stringers when I cover the turtle deck with fabric. > > ==> I glued up the assembly, trimmed, sanded, and then added/glued and trimmed the "bubinga" veneer. I have since routed the slots for the pilot's shoulder harness straps. > > ==> Having a good time... > > -------- > Jake Schultz - curator, > Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home) > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=373501#373501 > > > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/underside_585.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/1_turtle_deck_348.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/2_turtle_deck_883.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/4_turtle_deck_169.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/5_turtle_deck_191.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/6_turtle_deck_440.jpg > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 02:30:30 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Turtle deck progress.... 3.5 lb From: "Jack@textors.com" Jake those are not AN, shame on you :) Jack Textor Sent from my iPad Do not archive On May 21, 2012, at 3:28 PM, "aerocarjake" wrote: > > Thanks for the input John.... I am incorporating a storage area forward of the passenger seat. I will have no pax instruments so am using that area as a glove compartment - so to speak. (I've incorporated "modern" hidden cabinet hinges to hide the mechanism.) > > -------- > Jake Schultz - curator, > Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home) > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=373507#373507 > > > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/_map_box_closed_150.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/_map_box_open_416.jpg > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 04:14:16 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Turtle deck progress.... 3.5 lb From: "aerocarjake" Ha, yep... genuine AN cabinet hardware from Home Depot(!) I spent quite a long time in their hardware aisle looking for hinges that would work for this situation. I want my Piet to LOOK old but have some of the conveniences of today. -------- Jake Schultz - curator, Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=373518#373518 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 05:05:52 PM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Turtle deck progress.... 3.5 lb I=92ll echo what John said. I have a helmet box on mine, made from 1/16=94 birch plywood on the top, =BC=94 plywood for the sides and bottom, routed out to save weight, with a little fiberglass reinforcement so it weighs very little but is a huge help in keeping things that you will need. In it when parked at a fly-in I can keep both flying helmets and two sets of goggles, my GPS, a few essential tools and a couple of granola bars, as well as a couple of sectional charts. I use it nearly every time I fly. Here are a couple of pics of it: Your tutledeck is looking great. You are going to have a very nice Pietenpol. Jack Phillips NX899JP Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Hofmann Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 3:58 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Turtle deck progress.... 3.5 lb Hi Jake, Looking good. I want to lobby you for the helmet box. I don't have one on 502Rocket and it is a pain. People don't think the box is very useful but when you don't have anyplace to put even a quart of oil (which I put next to me on the seat now) it comes in handy. Plus it gives you a place to put stuff while you are on the ground at a flyin (for those out of sight out of mind moments) like your handheld or portable gps. I really wish I did have one. -john- John Hofmann Vice-President, Information Technology The Rees Group, Inc. 2424 American Lane Madison, WI 53704 Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150 Fax: 608.443.2474 Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com On May 21, 2012, at 2:38 PM, aerocarjake wrote: Hello good Piet-ple... Been making progress on the turtle deck and thought I'd share some images....... A few observations: ==> It turned out 3.5 lb ==> I do not have a "helmet box" per plans as I am trying to add as little weight as possible aft of the CG ==> The 1/16 plywood didn't bend around the contour as well as I had thought - so I had to soak it in my bathtub overnight to get it to form. (I let it dry clamped in position before I glued it.) ==> The 1/4 inch dowels are glued "1/2 way" into each stringer to stabilize the stringers when I cover the turtle deck with fabric. ==> I glued up the assembly, trimmed, sanded, and then added/glued and trimmed the "bubinga" veneer. I have since routed the slots for the pilot's shoulder harness straps. ==> Having a good time... -------- Jake Schultz - curator, Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=373501#373501 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/underside_585.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/1_turtle_deck_348.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/2_turtle_deck_883.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/4_turtle_deck_169.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/5_turtle_deck_191.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/6_turtle_deck_440.jpg &n======================== ======================= ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 05:26:36 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Turtle deck progress.... 3.5 lb From: "Jack@textors.com" Wish I had done the same... Jack Textor Sent from my iPad Do not archive On May 21, 2012, at 6:13 PM, "aerocarjake" wrote: > > Ha, yep... genuine AN cabinet hardware from Home Depot(!) > > I spent quite a long time in their hardware aisle looking for hinges that would work for this situation. I want my Piet to LOOK old but have some of the conveniences of today. > > -------- > Jake Schultz - curator, > Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home) > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=373518#373518 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 05:46:39 PM PST US From: "Jack" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Turtle deck progress.... 3.5 lb Jake I made the mistake of adding extra stringers for what I hope will improve the decks appearance. I just weighed mine and it is 5 pounds. http://textors.com/IMG_4220_640x427.jpg Jack Textor DSM NX1929T -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of aerocarjake Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 2:39 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Turtle deck progress.... 3.5 lb Hello good Piet-ple... Been making progress on the turtle deck and thought I'd share some images....... A few observations: ==> It turned out 3.5 lb ==> I do not have a "helmet box" per plans as I am trying to add as little weight as possible aft of the CG ==> The 1/16 plywood didn't bend around the contour as well as I had thought - so I had to soak it in my bathtub overnight to get it to form. (I let it dry clamped in position before I glued it.) ==> The 1/4 inch dowels are glued "1/2 way" into each stringer to stabilize the stringers when I cover the turtle deck with fabric. ==> I glued up the assembly, trimmed, sanded, and then added/glued and trimmed the "bubinga" veneer. I have since routed the slots for the pilot's shoulder harness straps. ==> Having a good time... -------- Jake Schultz - curator, Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=373501#373501 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/underside_585.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/1_turtle_deck_348.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/2_turtle_deck_883.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/4_turtle_deck_169.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/5_turtle_deck_191.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/6_turtle_deck_440.jpg ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.