---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 05/22/12: 16 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:43 AM - Re: Turtle deck progress.... 3.5 lb (helspersew@aol.com) 2. 10:54 AM - Re: Turtle deck progress.... 3.5 lb (aerocarjake) 3. 12:57 PM - thinking outside the hatbox....... (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP]) 4. 01:06 PM - photo inside the backseat storage area (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP]) 5. 02:06 PM - Review Property! (sncliffe@aol.com) 6. 02:13 PM - Re: thinking outside the hatbox....... (TOM STINEMETZE) 7. 02:43 PM - Re: photo inside the backseat storage area (aerocarjake) 8. 03:10 PM - Re: thinking outside the hatbox....... (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP]) 9. 06:10 PM - NX53WE--WE'RE TOGETHER AGAIN (Bob edson) 10. 06:46 PM - Re: thinking outside the hatbox....... (shad bell) 11. 07:15 PM - pic of a real jenny seat (nightmare) 12. 07:57 PM - Re: NX53WE--WE'RE TOGETHER AGAIN (Jerry Dotson) 13. 08:05 PM - Re: flying formation cross country and avgas prices (Baldeagle) 14. 09:26 PM - Re: pic of a real jenny seat (nightmare) 15. 09:43 PM - Re: Re: flying formation cross country and avgas prices (Clif Dawson) 16. 09:48 PM - Re: NX53WE--WE'RE TOGETHER AGAIN (K5YAC) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:43:51 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Turtle deck progress.... 3.5 lb From: helspersew@aol.com Jake, I vote for the helmet box. I wish I had made mine bigger, but was constrai ned by being a purist, so I had to stick to the plans. Dan Helsper Puryear, TN. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 10:54:52 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Turtle deck progress.... 3.5 lb From: "aerocarjake" Thanks for all the comments... I will consider revising it to add a box - we'll see..... So many tradeoffs (!)....... Thx again...... -------- Jake Schultz - curator, Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=373578#373578 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 12:57:35 PM PST US From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP]" Subject: Pietenpol-List: thinking outside the hatbox....... I couldn't see any reason to build a hatbox when all of that area under the turtledeck behind the pilot seat was screaming perfectly good storage space. I decided to glue a 1/16" thick piece of birch plywood back there as a floo r using the existing diagonal piece of spruce as a support for the floor. My sketch s hows the plywood on top of the longerons but actually it is below the longerons. (never did excel in art) You have to be judicious in how much weigh you put back there of course but you can really pack a lot of items back there as long as they aren't lead bricks;) Knowing Jake's ingenuity I would bet he could install some kind of 'lowerin g floor' device to use that area behind his wicker seat and still keep the look of a solid wood turtledeck covering. Of course there is always Velcro...........! Mike C. ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 01:06:42 PM PST US From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP]" Subject: Pietenpol-List: photo inside the backseat storage area [cid:image001.png@01CD3834.89296A20] ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 02:06:17 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Review Property! From: sncliffe@aol.com I have some Properties for Review i would want you to check them out, CLICK HERE and log in with your email Thanks Nick ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 02:13:33 PM PST US From: "TOM STINEMETZE" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: thinking outside the hatbox....... Mike: I am doing something very similar in that I put a floor in all the way back to the first former. I covered the bottom of that floor with tin foil which became the ground plane for my radio antenna. My question is this: Do you have to have something on the sides to prevent the "hats" in the hat box from poking into the side fabric or do the turtledeck formers take care of this? You can see my floor with the radio antenna in this photo. Sorry, that's the best one I have available at the office. Just ignore the man behind the curtain. Tom Stinemetze N328X >>> "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP]" 5/22/2012 2:56 PM >>> I couldnt see any reason to build a hatbox when all of that area under the turtledeck behind the pilot seat was screaming perfectly good storage space. I decided to glue a 1/16 thick piece of birch plywood back there as a floor using the existing diagonal piece of spruce as a support for the floor. My sketch shows the plywood on top of the longerons but actually it is below the longerons. (never did excel in art) You have to be judicious in how much weigh you put back there of course but you can really pack a lot of items back there as long as they arent lead bricks;) Knowing Jakes ingenuity I would bet he could install some kind of lowering floor device to use that area behind his wicker seat and still keep the look of a solid wood turtledeck covering. Of course there is always Velcro..! Mike C. ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 02:43:05 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: photo inside the backseat storage area From: "aerocarjake" Having that much extra storage space does seem very appealing... Thx Mike... -------- Jake Schultz - curator, Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=373597#373597 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 03:10:53 PM PST US From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP]" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: thinking outside the hatbox....... VGhhdCdzIGxvb2tpbmcgZmFudGFzdGljIFRvbS0tZ3JlYXQgd29yayB5b3UncmUgZG9pbmcuIA0K DQpJJ3ZlIG5ldmVyIGhhZCBhbnkgaXNzdWVzIHdpdGggdGhpbmdzIHBva2luZyBpbnRvIHRoZSBm YWJyaWMgaW4gbXkgc3RvcmFnZQ0KYXJlYSB1bmRlciB0aGUgdHVydGxlZGVjayBUb20gYW5kIHll cywgdGhlIHN0cmluZ2VycyBoZWxwIHRvIGtlZXAgaXRlbXMNCmF3YXkgZnJvbSB0aGUgZmFicmlj LiAgSSBzdXBwb3NlIGlmIHlvdSBzdHVmZmVkIHRoZSBhcmVhIGZ1bGwgeW91IG1pZ2h0DQpzZWUg YSBidW1wIG9yIHByb3RydXNpb24gaW4gdGhlIGZhYnJpYyBidXQgeW91IGNhbiBzZWUgdGhhdCB3 aGlsZSB5b3UncmUNCmxvYWRpbmcuICBNb3N0IG9mIHdoYXQgSSB0YWtlIHJlc3RzIHdlbGwgb24g dGhlIHdvb2QgZmxvb3Igb2YgdGhhdCBzdG9yYWdlDQphcmVhIGp1c3QgZmluZS4gDQoNCk1pa2Ug Qy4NCg0KDQo ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 06:10:44 PM PST US From: "Bob edson" Subject: Pietenpol-List: NX53WE--WE'RE TOGETHER AGAIN Assembled again,ready for inspection. It is in my sons shop for inspection then we will move it to the airport. It is on the heavy side at 805 pounds and weight and ballance is within range. It has a continental 0-200 so 100 hp should handle it good.We are pleased with it. Life is good. Bob ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 06:46:38 PM PST US From: shad bell Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: thinking outside the hatbox....... Put fabric inside the stringers as well , that would keep the outer fabric protected from all but 18inch needles or that piece of welding rod you migh t want to carry around, and it would be light weight too. - Shad Do not archive --- On Tue, 5/22/12, Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP] wrote: From: Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP] Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: thinking outside the hatbox....... That's looking fantastic Tom--great work you're doing. I've never had any issues with things poking into the fabric in my storage area under the turtledeck Tom and yes, the stringers help to keep items away from the fabric.- I suppose if you stuffed the area full you might see a bump or protrusion in the fabric but you can see that while you're loading.- Most of what I take rests well on the wood floor of that storag e area just fine. Mike C. ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 07:15:13 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: pic of a real jenny seat From: "nightmare" was in seattle last week and went to the boeing plant. highly recommend the place. anywho, if someone wanted to copy a Jenny seat, this is it. Paul Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=373618#373618 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/jenny_seat_636.jpg ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 07:57:37 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: NX53WE--WE'RE TOGETHER AGAIN From: "Jerry Dotson" The Piet looks great. I like the colors. I hope to get mine inspected soon. Mine came in at 810 with the O-235 Lycoming. Just thinking we may get 4 or 5 Piets in the air this year. -------- Jerry Dotson 59 Daniel Johnson Rd Baker, FL 32531 Started building NX510JD July, 2009 thru covering and painting, now in final assembly 21" wheels Lycoming O-235 C2C Jay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=373621#373621 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 08:05:04 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: flying formation cross country and avgas prices From: "Baldeagle" Help for planning cheap(er) fuel stops: http://www.airnav.com/fuel/ And multiple Piets (or Cubs or Champs or...) are more fun than singular - -------- do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=373622#373622 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 09:26:36 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: pic of a real jenny seat From: "nightmare" sorry, museum, not plant. very cool place.paul Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=373628#373628 ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 09:43:08 PM PST US From: "Clif Dawson" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: flying formation cross country and avgas prices So is that a gaggle, a herd, a flock, a murder? Oh! I know! A nerf! :-) That's it! A Nerf of Piets. :-) Yep, just bouncin' through them air pockets. Clif do not archive > And multiple Piets (or Cubs or Champs or...) are more fun than singular ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 09:48:36 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: NX53WE--WE'RE TOGETHER AGAIN From: "K5YAC" Just wow! -------- Mark Chouinard Wings, Center Section and Empannage and Fuse framed up - Working on Landing Gear Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=373630#373630 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.