Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Wed 05/30/12


Total Messages Posted: 22



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     1. 05:11 AM - Re: Great Weekend (pineymb)
     2. 05:13 AM - Re: Great Weekend (airlion)
     3. 05:27 AM - Re: Great Weekend (Jack Phillips)
     4. 05:38 AM - Re: Great Weekend (airlion)
     5. 05:39 AM - Re: Great Weekend (Michael Perez)
     6. 06:17 AM - Hegy Prop (AircamperN11MS)
     7. 08:09 AM - Congratulations, Jerry (Woodflier@aol.com)
     8. 08:52 AM - static port plugging on ASI and ALT and Jerry's 1st taxi text  (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC])
     9. 08:57 AM - Re: Great Weekend (Jack Phillips)
    10. 09:30 AM - Re: Taxi testing NX510JD (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
    11. 11:37 AM - OT from Piets but still neat... (John Franklin)
    12. 12:31 PM - First flight Accident (AircamperN11MS)
    13. 12:51 PM - Re: static port plugging on ASI and ALT and Jerry's 1st taxi tex (Jerry Dotson)
    14. 01:53 PM - officially an airplane (Bob edson)
    15. 02:30 PM - Re: officially an airplane (Jack Phillips)
    16. 02:54 PM - Re: First flight Accident (Jack@textors.com)
    17. 03:00 PM - Vertical stab offset (Douwe Blumberg)
    18. 03:30 PM - Re: Vertical stab offset (Greg Cardinal)
    19. 04:19 PM - Re: Great Weekend (airlion)
    20. 05:37 PM - Re: Vertical stab offset (Jack Phillips)
    21. 05:43 PM - Re: Great Weekend (Jack Phillips)
    22. 06:36 PM - Re: officially an airplane (gboothe5@comcast.net)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:11:29 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Great Weekend
    From: "pineymb" <airltd@mts.net>
    As good as it gets Jack. Congratulations! -------- Adrian M Winnipeg, MB Canada Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=374251#374251


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    Time: 05:13:43 AM PST US
    From: airlion <airlion@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Great Weekend
    Hi Jack, looks great but when are you going to put fioats on your plane? Ga riner=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Jack Philli ps <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>=0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Tue, May 29, 2012 8:42:28 PM=0ASubject: Pietenpol-List: Great Weekend=0A=0A =0A Had a wonderful weekend at Smith Mountain Lake , Virginia , nestled up aga inst =0Athe Blue Ridge Mountains (where Karen and I will soon be building a home, once =0Awe=99ve closed on our house in Raleigh NC =93 t he Pietenpol is already based in our =0Ahangar there). We are adding a bac k porch and tool shed to the hangar, but took =0Aa break from the work brie fly on Sunday afternoon to do a little low and slow =0Aaviating. Karen too k these pictures from our Pietenpol:=0A =0A =0AThis one shows the view righ t after takeoff, climbing out over the lake. Smith =0AMountain is in the distance. The dam that forms Smith Mountain Lake is in =0Athe notch in the mountain, damming the Roanoke River , and creating a 22,000 =0Aacre la ke with 500 miles of shoreline. It was a beautiful flight, with smooth =0A air, light winds and nearly 100=C2=B0 temeratures (density altitude was wel l over =0A3,000=99 and we were just below gross weight =93 clim b rate was about 150 fpm).=0A =0A =0AThis photo shows our hangar at the top , with our half-finished porch on the back =0Aside. The house you see (wit h the small hangar and the dead Cherokee Arrow) =0Abelongs to our next door neighbors. Ours will be built near the joggle in the =0Adriveway where ou r drive splits off from theirs.=0A =0ALife is Good!=0A =0AJack Phillips=0AN X899JP=0ASmith Mountain Lake, Virginia


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    Time: 05:27:47 AM PST US
    From: "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Great Weekend
    Gardiner ' note the text where I pointed out I was getting 150 fpm climb. I doubt floats will improve that. Jack Phillips NX899JP Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of airlion Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 8:13 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Great Weekend Hi Jack, looks great but when are you going to put fioats on your plane? Gariner _____ From: Jack Phillips <pietflyr@bellsouth.net> Sent: Tue, May 29, 2012 8:42:28 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Great Weekend Had a wonderful weekend at Smith Mountain Lake , Virginia , nestled up against the Blue Ridge Mountains (where Karen and I will soon be building a home, once we=92ve closed on our house in Raleigh NC ' the Pietenpol is already based in our hangar there). We are adding a back porch and tool shed to the hangar, but took a break from the work briefly on Sunday afternoon to do a little low and slow aviating. Karen took these pictures from our Pietenpol: This one shows the view right after takeoff, climbing out over the lake. Smith Mountain is in the distance. The dam that forms Smith Mountain Lake is in the notch in the mountain, damming the Roanoke River , and creating a 22,000 acre lake with 500 miles of shoreline. It was a beautiful flight, with smooth air, light winds and nearly 100=B0 temeratures (density altitude was well over 3,000=92 and we were just below gross weight ' climb rate was about 150 fpm). This photo shows our hangar at the top, with our half-finished porch on the back side. The house you see (with the small hangar and the dead Cherokee Arrow) belongs to our next door neighbors. Ours will be built near the joggle in the driveway where our drive splits off from theirs. Life is Good! Jack Phillips NX899JP Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia


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    Time: 05:38:11 AM PST US
    From: airlion <airlion@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Great Weekend
    Well Jack , it looks like you will have to go Corvair. He He. Gardiner=0A =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Jack Phillips <piet flyr@bellsouth.net>=0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Wed, May 30, 2012 8:28:39 AM=0ASubject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Great Weekend=0A=0A =0AGard iner =93 note the text where I pointed out I was getting 150 fpm clim b. I =0Adoubt floats will improve that.=0A =0AJack Phillips=0ANX899JP=0ASm ith Mountain Lake, Virginia=0A =0A=0A________________________________=0A =0AFrom:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com =0A[mailto:owner-pietenpo l-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of airlion=0ASent: Wednesday, May 30 , 2012 8:13 AM=0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com=0ASubject: Re: Pietenpol- List: Great Weekend=0A =0AHi Jack, looks great but when are you going to pu t fioats on your plane? Gariner=0A =0A =0A=0A______________________________ __=0A =0AFrom:Jack Phillips <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>=0ATo: pietenpol-list@m atronics.com=0ASent: Tue, May 29, 2012 8:42:28 PM=0ASubject: Pietenpol-List : Great Weekend=0AHad a wonderful weekend at Smith Mountain Lake , Virgini a , nestled up against =0Athe Blue Ridge Mountains (where Karen and I will soon be building a home, once =0Awe=99ve closed on our house in Ralei gh NC =93 the Pietenpol is already based in our =0Ahangar there). W e are adding a back porch and tool shed to the hangar, but took =0Aa break from the work briefly on Sunday afternoon to do a little low and slow =0Aav iating. Karen took these pictures from our Pietenpol:=0A =0A =0AThis one s hows the view right after takeoff, climbing out over the lake. Smith =0AM ountain is in the distance. The dam that forms Smith Mountain Lake is in =0Athe notch in the mountain, damming the Roanoke River , and creating a 22,000 =0Aacre lake with 500 miles of shoreline. It was a beautiful flig ht, with smooth =0Aair, light winds and nearly 100=C2=B0 temeratures (densi ty altitude was well over =0A3,000=99 and we were just below gross we ight =93 climb rate was about 150 fpm).=0A =0A =0AThis photo shows ou r hangar at the top, with our half-finished porch on the back =0Aside. The house you see (with the small hangar and the dead Cherokee Arrow) =0Abelon gs to our next door neighbors. Ours will be built near the joggle in the =0Adriveway where our drive splits off from theirs.=0A =0ALife is Good!=0A =0AJack Phillips=0ANX899JP=0ASmith Mountain Lake , Virginia


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    Time: 05:39:53 AM PST US
    From: Michael Perez <speedbrake@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Great Weekend
    Looks like a beautiful area...fantastic place to fly. Michael Perez Pietenpol HINT Videos Karetaker Aero www.karetakeraero.com


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    Time: 06:17:25 AM PST US
    Subject: Hegy Prop
    From: "AircamperN11MS" <Scott.liefeld@lacity.org>
    Oscar, Do you still have that Hegy prop? I could be interested in it if you are not using it anymore. Thanks, -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Brodhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=374263#374263


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    Time: 08:09:52 AM PST US
    From: Woodflier@aol.com
    Subject: Congratulations, Jerry
    Jerry, that's a great feeling the first time your Piet moves under its own power. It isn't flying yet but it's getting close. Have you gotten the tail up yet? I ended up having to go the DAR route myself. Didn't like spending the money but it was worth it to get the airworthiness certificate. I don't know how you did your static system. I copied Mike Cuy and just drilled 1/16 holes in the plastic plugs plugging the static system side of the airspeed and altimeter. I haven't had any problem. Not sure if that affects the accuracy of the instruments but since indicated airspeed is what you're using as a reference for stall speed, approach, climb and cruise, the numbers you get during your test period are what matter and what you'll use. I use a non-sensitive alitmeter so a few feet off doesn't affect that either. I'm assuming you have the pitot tube far enough outboard on the wing not to be affected by the prop blast. Even with the pitot outboard of the wing strut attach point on my Piet, I get a bobble of 5-7 mph on my airspeed when I do a static runup. Now if you can get it certified in the next week or so, you can conceivably fly off the test period and make it to Brodhead this year.. ;) Matt Paxton <jdotson@centurylink.net> I taxied my Piet over the weekend........life is good. I am going to have to get a DAR ($500)to do the certification. FSDO in Birmingham just flat told me they were not doing it. Excuse was don't have the money for gas! I am on slow burn right now. I have an issue....static I think. When I run the engine up some say 1500 rpm the airspeed shows about 20 mph sitting still. I did not run a static line, just vented inside the panel. Reckon I could run a line out the bottom of the panel into the cockpit and solve the problem? That is the only issue I had. The airplane taxied great. The engine ran fine. I got a 2300 rpm static from the Cloudcars 76 X 44 prop. -------- Jerry Dotson 59 Daniel Johnson Rd Baker, FL 32531


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    Time: 08:52:35 AM PST US
    From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]" <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>
    Subject: static port plugging on ASI and ALT and Jerry's 1st taxi
    text Good point Matt-I neglected to say that I plugged both the ASI and ALT stat ic ports then drilled tiny vent holes in each plug to atmosphere like Matt did. In doing a ground run wit h my gps over a closed course about 7 years ago I found that the ASI was accurate within 2 mph which is good enou gh for me. (slow is slow:)) And, not to bead a dead Uncle (ouch) but I believe I got the static pluggin g/venting idea from the......are you ready.....Tony Bingelis books! Thanks Uncle Tony! Very exciting Jerry. I did all of my taxi testing off of a grass runway and it really helped me get used to the feel of the rudder bar, tailwheel steering and suspension. A few things you may find on taxi testing: One bungee is wrapped tighter than the other so when you see the axel bouncing off the ash block it isn't of equal distance side to side. (if you've got a straight axel) Tailspring resistance is too stiff or too soft. In my case I only had one leaf spring and it was way too soft which resulted in the tailwheel steering cables slaping against the bottom of the fuselage. Having just one leaf spring is a bad idea anyway because there's no backup spring should one break and lo w and behold thank goodness I did install a second spring before flying the plane because about 5 years into flying the thing one of my leafs broke on landing. No damage, no worries as the second leaf backed it up. Mike C. [cid:image001.png@01CD3E5A.977505E0]


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    Time: 08:57:50 AM PST US
    From: "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Great Weekend
    Nope. Too many mountains around there. If I lived in the midwest, I=92d be interested in an auto engine conversion, but it would be a Model A Ford. _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of airlion Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 8:38 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Great Weekend Well Jack , it looks like you will have to go Corvair. He He. Gardiner _____ From: Jack Phillips <pietflyr@bellsouth.net> Sent: Wed, May 30, 2012 8:28:39 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Great Weekend Gardiner ' note the text where I pointed out I was getting 150 fpm climb. I doubt floats will improve that. Jack Phillips NX899JP Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of airlion Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 8:13 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Great Weekend Hi Jack, looks great but when are you going to put fioats on your plane? Gariner _____ From: Jack Phillips <pietflyr@bellsouth.net> Sent: Tue, May 29, 2012 8:42:28 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Great Weekend Had a wonderful weekend at Smith Mountain Lake , Virginia , nestled up against the Blue Ridge Mountains (where Karen and I will soon be building a home, once we=92ve closed on our house in Raleigh NC ' the Pietenpol is already based in our hangar there). We are adding a back porch and tool shed to the hangar, but took a break from the work briefly on Sunday afternoon to do a little low and slow aviating. Karen took these pictures from our Pietenpol: This one shows the view right after takeoff, climbing out over the lake. Smith Mountain is in the distance. The dam that forms Smith Mountain Lake is in the notch in the mountain, damming the Roanoke River , and creating a 22,000 acre lake with 500 miles of shoreline. It was a beautiful flight, with smooth air, light winds and nearly 100=B0 temeratures (density altitude was well over 3,000=92 and we were just below gross weight ' climb rate was about 150 fpm). This photo shows our hangar at the top, with our half-finished porch on the back side. The house you see (with the small hangar and the dead Cherokee Arrow) belongs to our next door neighbors. Ours will be built near the joggle in the driveway where our drive splits off from theirs. Life is Good! Jack Phillips NX899JP Smith Mountain Lake , Virginia


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    Time: 09:30:45 AM PST US
    From: AMsafetyC@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Taxi testing NX510JD
    Very nice, congratulations.... Can wait to hear how she flys which I suspect should be in short order. John Do not archive In a message dated 5/29/2012 4:42:06 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jdotson@centurylink.net writes: --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Jerry Dotson" <jdotson@centurylink.net> I taxied my Piet over the weekend........life is good. I am going to have to get a DAR ($500)to do the certification. FSDO in Birmingham just flat told me they were not doing it. Excuse was don't have the money for gas! I am on slow burn right now. I have an issue....static I think. When I run the engine up some say 1500 rpm the airspeed shows about 20 mph sitting still. I did not run a static line, just vented inside the panel. Reckon I could run a line out the bottom of the panel into the cockpit and solve the problem? That is the only issue I had. The airplane taxied great. The engine ran fine. I got a 2300 rpm static from the Cloudcars 76 X 44 prop. -------- Jerry Dotson 59 Daniel Johnson Rd Baker, FL 32531 Started building NX510JD July, 2009 thru covering and painting, now in final assembly 21&quot; wheels Lycoming O-235 C2C Jay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=374206#374206 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/a43_123.jpg


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    Time: 11:37:37 AM PST US
    From: John Franklin <jbfjr@peoplepc.com>
    Subject: OT from Piets but still neat...
    http://www.nmusafvirtualtour.com/full/tour-pkg.html John Franklin Prairie Aire 4TA0 GN-1 / Corvair ________________________________________


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    Time: 12:31:57 PM PST US
    Subject: First flight Accident
    From: "AircamperN11MS" <Scott.liefeld@lacity.org>
    Does anyone know of this fellow or plane? Sounds like the pilot is OK which is good news. http://www.ntsb.gov/aviationquery/brief.aspx?ev_id 120510X35303&key=1 -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Brodhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=374301#374301


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    Time: 12:51:14 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: static port plugging on ASI and ALT and Jerry's 1st
    taxi tex
    From: "Jerry Dotson" <jdotson@centurylink.net>
    Thanks for the kind words and encouragement. I do have a plug with a tiny hole in it in the static port. I will climb that mountain and let you all know what fixes it. -------- Jerry Dotson 59 Daniel Johnson Rd Baker, FL 32531 Started building NX510JD July, 2009 thru covering and painting, now in final assembly 21&quot; wheels Lycoming O-235 C2C Jay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=374303#374303


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    Time: 01:53:42 PM PST US
    From: "Bob edson" <robertse@centurytel.net>
    Subject: officially an airplane
    Another giant step taken. As of May 30,2012 NXWE53 is an airplane. The inspection went good and the certificate was issued. Now we have to take the wings off and move it to the airport. The tempo is speeding up. Bob


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    Time: 02:30:41 PM PST US
    From: "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: officially an airplane
    Congratulations, Bob! We're anxiously awaiting a first flight report. Jack Phillips NX899JP Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob edson Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 4:50 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: officially an airplane Another giant step taken. As of May 30,2012 NXWE53 is an airplane. The inspection went good and the certificate was issued. Now we have to take the wings off and move it to the airport. The tempo is speeding up. Bob


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    Time: 02:54:11 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: First flight Accident
    From: "Jack@textors.com" <jack@textors.com>
    That is sad news! Glad he is ok. From the list Don is retired, was building the short fuselage with the model A. Jack Textor Sent from my iPad On May 30, 2012, at 2:30 PM, "AircamperN11MS" <Scott.liefeld@lacity.org> wrote: > > Does anyone know of this fellow or plane? Sounds like the pilot is OK which is good news. > > http://www.ntsb.gov/aviationquery/brief.aspx?ev_id 120510X35303&key=1 > > -------- > Scott Liefeld > Flying N11MS since March 1972 > Steel Tube > C-85-12 > Wire Wheels > Brodhead in 1996 > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=374301#374301 > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 03:00:09 PM PST US
    From: "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Vertical stab offset
    Okay you flyers. Who has offset their vertical stab and how much. What is your experience, does it help, hinder, do nothing?? As always there are myriad opinions, so I'm really interested in real world experience. Thanks! Douwe Darned glass cowling almost finished (way more work than sheet metal one), fuse covering materials ordered, plan to start covering it next week!


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    Time: 03:30:36 PM PST US
    From: "Greg Cardinal" <gcardinal@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Vertical stab offset
    NX18235, with an A-65, is flying with the vertical fin offset to the left about 1 1/2". Feet off the rudder bar and the ball still settles about 1 ball width to the right. Offsetting the fin helped a lot and it is wise for builders to have a means of adjusting the fin. Greg Cardinal ----- Original Message ----- From: Douwe Blumberg To: pietenpolgroup Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 5:01 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Vertical stab offset Okay you flyers. Who has offset their vertical stab and how much. What is your experience, does it help, hinder, do nothing?? As always there are myriad opinions, so I'm really interested in real world experience. Thanks! Douwe Darned glass cowling almost finished (way more work than sheet metal one), fuse covering materials ordered, plan to start covering it next week!


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    Time: 04:19:34 PM PST US
    From: airlion <airlion@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Great Weekend
    Jack, what was your altitude in the pictures? Gardiner=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A___ _____________________________=0AFrom: Jack Phillips <pietflyr@bellsouth.net >=0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Wed, May 30, 2012 11:56:50 AM =0ASubject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Great Weekend=0A=0A =0ANope. Too many moun tains around there. If I lived in the midwest, I=99d be =0Aintereste d in an auto engine conversion, but it would be a Model A Ford.=0A =0A=0A__ ______________________________=0A =0AFrom:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matro nics.com =0A[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of airlion=0ASent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 8:38 AM=0ATo: pietenpol-list@matro nics.com=0ASubject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Great Weekend=0A =0AWell Jack , it looks like you will have to go Corvair. He He. Gardiner=0A =0A =0A=0A______ __________________________=0A =0AFrom:Jack Phillips <pietflyr@bellsouth.net >=0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Wed, May 30, 2012 8:28:39 AM =0ASubject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Great Weekend=0AGardiner =93 note the text where I pointed out I was getting 150 fpm climb. I =0Adoubt floats w ill improve that.=0A =0AJack Phillips=0ANX899JP=0ASmith Mountain Lake, Vi rginia=0A =0A=0A________________________________=0A =0AFrom:owner-pietenpol -list-server@matronics.com =0A[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics .com] On Behalf Of airlion=0ASent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 8:13 AM=0ATo: pi etenpol-list@matronics.com=0ASubject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Great Weekend=0A =0AHi Jack, looks great but when are you going to put fioats on your plane? Gariner=0A =0A =0A=0A________________________________=0A =0AFrom:Jack Phil lips <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>=0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Tu e, May 29, 2012 8:42:28 PM=0ASubject: Pietenpol-List: Great Weekend=0AHad a wonderful weekend at Smith Mountain Lake , Virginia , nestled up against =0Athe Blue Ridge Mountains (where Karen and I will soon be building a home , once =0Awe=99ve closed on our house in Raleigh NC =93 the Pi etenpol is already based in our =0Ahangar there). We are adding a back por ch and tool shed to the hangar, but took =0Aa break from the work briefly o n Sunday afternoon to do a little low and slow =0Aaviating. Karen took the se pictures from our Pietenpol:=0A =0A =0AThis one shows the view right aft er takeoff, climbing out over the lake. Smith =0AMountain is in the dist ance. The dam that forms Smith Mountain Lake is in =0Athe notch in the mountain, damming the Roanoke River , and creating a 22,000 =0Aacre lake w ith 500 miles of shoreline. It was a beautiful flight, with smooth =0Aair, light winds and nearly 100=C2=B0 temeratures (density altitude was well ov er =0A3,000=99 and we were just below gross weight =93 climb ra te was about 150 fpm).=0A =0A =0AThis photo shows our hangar at the top, wi th our half-finished porch on the back =0Aside. The house you see (with th e small hangar and the dead Cherokee Arrow) =0Abelongs to our next door nei ghbors. Ours will be built near the joggle in the =0Adriveway where our dr ive splits off from theirs.=0A =0ALife is Good!=0A =0AJack Phillips=0ANX899 JP=0ASmith Mountain Lake , Virginia


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    Time: 05:37:09 PM PST US
    From: "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Vertical stab offset
    I offset my fin 1" and it is not enough (Continental A65, with a little right thrust built into the engine mount). Mine also flies feet off with the ball about a ball width to the right of center. I'm considering adding a small trim tab to the rudder - just a wedge attached to the trailing edge, not sticking beyond it. Jack Phillips NX899JP Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Greg Cardinal Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 6:30 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Vertical stab offset NX18235, with an A-65, is flying with the vertical fin offset to the left about 1 1/2". Feet off the rudder bar and the ball still settles about 1 ball width to the right. Offsetting the fin helped a lot and it is wise for builders to have a means of adjusting the fin. Greg Cardinal ----- Original Message ----- From: Douwe <mailto:douweblumberg@earthlink.net> Blumberg Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 5:01 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Vertical stab offset Okay you flyers. Who has offset their vertical stab and how much. What is your experience, does it help, hinder, do nothing?? As always there are myriad opinions, so I'm really interested in real world experience. Thanks! Douwe Darned glass cowling almost finished (way more work than sheet metal one), fuse covering materials ordered, plan to start covering it next week! href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.matronic s.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c


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    Time: 05:43:35 PM PST US
    From: "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Great Weekend
    Probably about 500=92 AGL. I rarely fly much higher than that. Takes too long to get much higher. Jack Phillips NX899JP Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of airlion Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 7:19 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Great Weekend Jack, what was your altitude in the pictures? Gardiner _____ From: Jack Phillips <pietflyr@bellsouth.net> Sent: Wed, May 30, 2012 11:56:50 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Great Weekend Nope. Too many mountains around there. If I lived in the midwest, I=92d be interested in an auto engine conversion, but it would be a Model A Ford. _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of airlion Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 8:38 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Great Weekend Well Jack , it looks like you will have to go Corvair. He He. Gardiner _____ From: Jack Phillips <pietflyr@bellsouth.net> Sent: Wed, May 30, 2012 8:28:39 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Great Weekend Gardiner ' note the text where I pointed out I was getting 150 fpm climb. I doubt floats will improve that. Jack Phillips NX899JP Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of airlion Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 8:13 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Great Weekend Hi Jack, looks great but when are you going to put fioats on your plane? Gariner _____ From: Jack Phillips <pietflyr@bellsouth.net> Sent: Tue, May 29, 2012 8:42:28 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Great Weekend Had a wonderful weekend at Smith Mountain Lake , Virginia , nestled up against the Blue Ridge Mountains (where Karen and I will soon be building a home, once we=92ve closed on our house in Raleigh NC ' the Pietenpol is already based in our hangar there). We are adding a back porch and tool shed to the hangar, but took a break from the work briefly on Sunday afternoon to do a little low and slow aviating. Karen took these pictures from our Pietenpol: This one shows the view right after takeoff, climbing out over the lake. Smith Mountain is in the distance. The dam that forms Smith Mountain Lake is in the notch in the mountain, damming the Roanoke River , and creating a 22,000 acre lake with 500 miles of shoreline. It was a beautiful flight, with smooth air, light winds and nearly 100=B0 temeratures (density altitude was well over 3,000=92 and we were just below gross weight ' climb rate was about 150 fpm). This photo shows our hangar at the top, with our half-finished porch on the back side. The house you see (with the small hangar and the dead Cherokee Arrow) belongs to our next door neighbors. Ours will be built near the joggle in the driveway where our drive splits off from theirs. Life is Good! Jack Phillips NX899JP Smith Mountain Lake , Virginia


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    Time: 06:36:52 PM PST US
    From: gboothe5@comcast.net
    Subject: Re: officially an airplane
    Hearty CONGRATULATIONS, Bob!! do not archive Gary from Cool ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob edson" <robertse@centurytel.net> Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 1:49:45 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: officially an airplane Another giant step taken. As of May 30,2012 NXWE53 is an airplane. The inspection went good and the certificate was issued. Now we have to take the wings off and move it to the airport. The tempo is speeding up. Bob




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