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1. 04:17 AM - Re: Oops, I think (Jerry Dotson)
2. 04:30 AM - Re: Oops, I think (John Francis)
3. 05:00 AM - Re: Re: Oops, I think (Jack@textors.com)
4. 05:19 AM - Re: Oops, I think (John Francis)
5. 08:53 AM - t-nuts vs anchor nuts (John Francis)
6. 09:24 AM - Re: t-nuts vs anchor nuts (Michael Perez)
7. 09:30 AM - Re: t-nuts vs anchor nuts (John Francis)
8. 09:30 AM - Re: t-nuts vs anchor nuts (gboothe5@comcast.net)
9. 10:29 AM - Re: t-nuts vs anchor nuts (airlion)
10. 10:34 AM - NX510JD IS FLIGHT READY (Jerry Dotson)
11. 10:41 AM - Re: t-nuts vs anchor nuts (j_dunavin)
12. 10:53 AM - Re: NX510JD IS FLIGHT READY (airlion)
13. 10:59 AM - Re: NX510JD IS FLIGHT READY (Jim Boyer)
14. 11:16 AM - Re: NX510JD IS FLIGHT READY (Dan Yocum)
15. 11:24 AM - Re: NX510JD IS FLIGHT READY (gboothe5@comcast.net)
16. 11:24 AM - Re: NX510JD IS FLIGHT READY (Jack Phillips)
17. 12:05 PM - Formation Flying (Gerry Holland)
18. 01:37 PM - Re: NX510JD IS FLIGHT READY (Amsafetyc)
19. 01:40 PM - Re: Re: t-nuts vs anchor nuts (Gene Rambo)
20. 01:51 PM - 1st flight--flaring high in a Pietenpol (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC])
21. 02:04 PM - Re: NX510JD IS FLIGHT READY (helspersew@aol.com)
22. 02:19 PM - Re: NX510JD IS FLIGHT READY (Jack Phillips)
23. 03:38 PM - Re: 1st flight--flaring high in a Pietenpol (Jerry Dotson)
24. 03:41 PM - Re: NX510JD IS FLIGHT READY (Jerry Dotson)
25. 06:35 PM - Re: NX510JD IS FLIGHT READY (Jack@textors.com)
26. 07:03 PM - Re: Re: t-nuts vs anchor nuts (shad bell)
27. 07:36 PM - cable guides (Ralph)
28. 07:46 PM - Re: NX510JD IS FLIGHT READY (Bill Church)
29. 09:02 PM - Re: Re: t-nuts vs anchor nuts (Ray Krause)
30. 09:34 PM - Re: Re: 1st flight--flaring high in a Pietenpol (shad bell)
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| Subject: | Re: Oops, I think |
John,
I have a little saw from Harbor Freight that will let you surgically remove what
you need. It is called a Oscillating Multifunction Power Tool
Chicago Electric Power Tools - item#68861. $24.95. The tool is cheap but the saw
blades are about 7 or 8 bucks each! It is very handy. You can cut neat slots
in plywood.
Jerry
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Jerry Dotson
59 Daniel Johnson Rd
Baker, FL 32531
Started building NX510JD July, 2009
thru covering and painting, now in final assembly
21" wheels
Lycoming O-235 C2C
Jay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44
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| Subject: | Re: Oops, I think |
Thanks all as I have received some good ideas. I am still waiting on my spruce
order from acs so I have some time to think about it. Ill have it resolved by
the time I get to Brodhead!
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John Francis
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| Subject: | Re: Oops, I think |
I have three, great tool!
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Jack Textor
Sent from my iPad
On Jun 5, 2012, at 6:17 AM, "Jerry Dotson" <jdotson@centurylink.net> wrote:
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> John,
> I have a little saw from Harbor Freight that will let you surgically remove what
you need. It is called a Oscillating Multifunction Power Tool
> Chicago Electric Power Tools - item#68861. $24.95. The tool is cheap but the
saw blades are about 7 or 8 bucks each! It is very handy. You can cut neat slots
in plywood.
> Jerry
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> Jerry Dotson
> 59 Daniel Johnson Rd
> Baker, FL 32531
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> thru covering and painting, now in final assembly
> 21" wheels
> Lycoming O-235 C2C
> Jay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44
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| Subject: | Re: Oops, I think |
Im favoring the capstrip idea. I would just cut the spar a little short (that
would allow me to slide it in without cutting anything else) and then sliding
a piece of capstrip the full length. It would be glued and nailed in place.
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| Subject: | t-nuts vs anchor nuts |
For the ailerons is anyone using t-nuts over the standard anchor nuts? The biggest
difference I find is price. t-nuts .29 each vs. anchor nuts (with plastic
insert) 3.30 each. Perhaps I could go with anchor nuts (which my technical advisor
is telling me to do) without the plastic inserts. If so, do you use loctite
to hold the screws in?
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| Subject: | Re: t-nuts vs anchor nuts |
I assume you mean to mount the hinges...if so, I used T nuts. I epoxied the nuts
into the wood and when I install the ailerons, I plan to put a dab of thread
lock on the screws or epoxy.
Michael Perez
Pietenpol HINT Videos
Karetaker Aero
www.karetakeraero.com
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| Subject: | Re: t-nuts vs anchor nuts |
Yes, to mount the piano hinge. Thanks.
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John Francis
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| Subject: | Re: t-nuts vs anchor nuts |
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| Subject: | Re: t-nuts vs anchor nuts |
I used T-nuts and epoxied them in. Cheers, Gardiner
----- Original Message ----
From: John Francis <Mrkringles@msn.com>
Sent: Tue, June 5, 2012 11:55:13 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: t-nuts vs anchor nuts
For the ailerons is anyone using t-nuts over the standard anchor nuts? The
biggest difference I find is price. t-nuts .29 each vs. anchor nuts (with
plastic insert) 3.30 each. Perhaps I could go with anchor nuts (which my
technical advisor is telling me to do) without the plastic inserts. If so, do
you use loctite to hold the screws in?
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John Francis
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| Subject: | NX510JD IS FLIGHT READY |
The DAR came and certified my Pietenpol this morning. The weather is not cooperating.
The forecasts look like it will be Saturday at least before this windy
low passes out of here. Lots of covers to put on before then any way.
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Jerry Dotson
59 Daniel Johnson Rd
Baker, FL 32531
Started building NX510JD July, 2009
thru covering and painting, now in final assembly
21" wheels
Lycoming O-235 C2C
Jay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44
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| Subject: | Re: t-nuts vs anchor nuts |
I'm not at that point yet, so I couldn't say for for sure how I will do mine, BUT
if your technical advisor says to use anchor nuts or nut plates, then I would.
There is no way to saftey a tee nut, unless you used lock tight.
These nut plates are all metal and not too expensive:
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/hapages/anchornuts4.php
and if you look at this doc:
http://www.coastfab.com/images/pdf/2010/nutplates_ms21059_ms21061.pdf
They self lock due to the fact that the hole is a little out of round.
If all else fails, this is actual AN hardware, not true value hardware.
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| Subject: | Re: NX510JD IS FLIGHT READY |
Jerry, good luck on your first flight. You won't have any trouble as I have seen
your work. You might want to go up with your brother just to get the feel of
flying. Gardiner
----- Original Message ----
From: Jerry Dotson <jdotson@centurylink.net>
Sent: Tue, June 5, 2012 1:35:37 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: NX510JD IS FLIGHT READY
The DAR came and certified my Pietenpol this morning. The weather is not
cooperating. The forecasts look like it will be Saturday at least before this
windy low passes out of here. Lots of covers to put on before then any way.
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Jerry Dotson
59 Daniel Johnson Rd
Baker, FL 32531
Started building NX510JD July, 2009
thru covering and painting, now in final assembly
21" wheels
Lycoming O-235 C2C
Jay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44
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| Subject: | Re: NX510JD IS FLIGHT READY |
Congratulations on having a real live ready to go Pietenpol Jerry.
Jim Boyer
Santa Rosa
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| Subject: | Re: NX510JD IS FLIGHT READY |
Excellent news!
On 06/05/2012 12:31 PM, Jerry Dotson wrote:
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Jerry Dotson"<jdotson@centurylink.net>
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> The DAR came and certified my Pietenpol this morning. The weather is not cooperating.
The forecasts look like it will be Saturday at least before this windy
low passes out of here. Lots of covers to put on before then any way.
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> Jerry Dotson
> 59 Daniel Johnson Rd
> Baker, FL 32531
>
> Started building NX510JD July, 2009
> thru covering and painting, now in final assembly
> 21" wheels
> Lycoming O-235 C2C
> Jay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44
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Dan Yocum
Fermilab 630.840.6509
yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
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| Subject: | Re: NX510JD IS FLIGHT READY |
Woo-hoo!!!
------Original Message------
From: Jerry Dotson
Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
ReplyTo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Pietenpol-List: NX510JD IS FLIGHT READY
Sent: Jun 5, 2012 10:31 AM
The DAR came and certified my Pietenpol this morning. The weather is not cooperating.
The forecasts look like it will be Saturday at least before this windy
low passes out of here. Lots of covers to put on before then any way.
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Jerry Dotson
59 Daniel Johnson Rd
Baker, FL 32531
Started building NX510JD July, 2009
thru covering and painting, now in final assembly
21" wheels
Lycoming O-235 C2C
Jay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=374770#374770
Sent on the Sprint Now Network from my BlackBerry
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| Subject: | NX510JD IS FLIGHT READY |
Great News, Jerry! Good luck with the first flight. Be prepared to have
the very best feeling you've ever had with your clothes on.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Dotson
Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2012 1:32 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: NX510JD IS FLIGHT READY
<jdotson@centurylink.net>
The DAR came and certified my Pietenpol this morning. The weather is not
cooperating. The forecasts look like it will be Saturday at least before
this windy low passes out of here. Lots of covers to put on before then any
way.
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Jerry Dotson
59 Daniel Johnson Rd
Baker, FL 32531
Started building NX510JD July, 2009
thru covering and painting, now in final assembly
21" wheels
Lycoming O-235 C2C
Jay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=374770#374770
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| Subject: | Formation Flying |
Not low and slow flying but still fun.
This is a video of BAE Hawks (Goshawks in USA) preparing and then flying
a formation of London for the Queens 60th Anniversary.
For any ex-Service Pilot they will know how much preparation was
required to get 27 aircraft into formation. 3 is enough!
http://vimeo.com/42489364
As an aside . YOu may notice instead of the Air Force spending tens of
thousands per aircraft for GPS System they use the Bendix SkyMap III at
$1000 a time. Off the shelf too.
Hope I havent offended anyone with a off Piet topic but the weather is
crass here in England!
Regards
Gerry
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| Subject: | Re: NX510JD IS FLIGHT READY |
Congratulations and now you got to get your 40 flown off so we can see you in Brodhead
next month
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John
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On Jun 5, 2012, at 1:31 PM, "Jerry Dotson" <jdotson@centurylink.net> wrote:
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> The DAR came and certified my Pietenpol this morning. The weather is not cooperating.
The forecasts look like it will be Saturday at least before this windy
low passes out of here. Lots of covers to put on before then any way.
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> Jerry Dotson
> 59 Daniel Johnson Rd
> Baker, FL 32531
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> Started building NX510JD July, 2009
> thru covering and painting, now in final assembly
> 21" wheels
> Lycoming O-235 C2C
> Jay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44
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| Subject: | Re: t-nuts vs anchor nuts |
Actually=2C you can safety tee nuts. I epoxied mine in=2C but at the last
minute before covering I cut a bunch of strips of thin plywood say=2C 1/2"
by 1" and drilled a hole in the middle for the screw to protrude through.
Then I glued and nailed one across each tee nut. They won't push out now .
. . Genedo not archive
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: t-nuts vs anchor nuts
> From: j_dunavin@hotmail.com
> Date: Tue=2C 5 Jun 2012 10:37:23 -0700
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
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mine=2C BUT if your technical advisor says to use anchor nuts or nut plate
s=2C then I would. There is no way to saftey a tee nut=2C unless you used l
ock tight.
> These nut plates are all metal and not too expensive:
> http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/hapages/anchornuts4.php
> and if you look at this doc:
> http://www.coastfab.com/images/pdf/2010/nutplates_ms21059_ms21061.pdf
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| Subject: | 1st flight--flaring high in a Pietenpol |
Congratulations Jerry!
One man's observation is that we sit LOW on the ground in a Pietenpol
and the sensation when getting close to the ground is that you're too low.
Don't let that fool you.
We are just not used to sitting that low in an airplane while trying to
touch down. Get a good 'sight image' of where the horizon
crosses thru your nose while you're doing your taxi testing and stamp
that in your memory. When you get into your first landing my advice would
be to carry a little power because these draggy things loose airspeed fast
and stalling in high bites:) An old instructor told me to keep my vision
2/3rds the way down the runway during landing. Boy does that ever help
with directional control.
Ah well, for all I know Jerry you've got 2,000 hours of tailwheel time. I think
I'm just giving myself a refresher since I only have a few landings this
year under my belt and not all were pretty!
Best wishes--you've come a long, long way. The next phase of your adventure
is soon to begin!
Mike C.
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| Subject: | Re: NX510JD IS FLIGHT READY |
Congratulations of the first order!!
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
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-----Original Message-----
From: Jerry Dotson <jdotson@centurylink.net>
Sent: Tue, Jun 5, 2012 12:35 pm
Subject: Pietenpol-List: NX510JD IS FLIGHT READY
et>
The DAR came and certified my Pietenpol this morning. The weather is not
ooperating. The forecasts look like it will be Saturday at least before thi
s
indy low passes out of here. Lots of covers to put on before then any way.
--------
erry Dotson
9 Daniel Johnson Rd
aker, FL 32531
Started building NX510JD July, 2009
hru covering and painting, now in final assembly
1" wheels
ycoming O-235 C2C
ay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44
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| Subject: | NX510JD IS FLIGHT READY |
Depending on the prop Jerry's got, he may only have to do a 25 hour fly off,
since he has a real airplane engine in his Pietenpol
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Amsafetyc
Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2012 4:12 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: NX510JD IS FLIGHT READY
Congratulations and now you got to get your 40 flown off so we can see you
in Brodhead next month
Do not archive
John
Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 5, 2012, at 1:31 PM, "Jerry Dotson" <jdotson@centurylink.net> wrote:
<jdotson@centurylink.net>
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> The DAR came and certified my Pietenpol this morning. The weather is not
cooperating. The forecasts look like it will be Saturday at least before
this windy low passes out of here. Lots of covers to put on before then any
way.
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> Jerry Dotson
> 59 Daniel Johnson Rd
> Baker, FL 32531
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> Started building NX510JD July, 2009
> thru covering and painting, now in final assembly
> 21" wheels
> Lycoming O-235 C2C
> Jay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44
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| Subject: | Re: 1st flight--flaring high in a Pietenpol |
Mike,
I appreciate the heads up on flaring too high. I did that in a 600 hp Thrush about
40 years ago.....still have not forgotten that. I have 1800 hours tail wheel
time but that don't mean a lot(nothing). I have not flown much in the last
last 20 years. I have made a dozen or so trips up and down the runway and it
is feeling better but I am in no real hurry to put it in the air. I want to get
real comfortable with the ground handling first.
True story time:
In the early 70's I was a partner in a Cessna 140. We sold it to a guy about 40
miles away. We delivered it to him at his home airport. My partner asked him
if he wanted one of us to check him out in it. He stuck his chest out and said
"No man. I have 5000 hours in a P-51." So we went on our merry way. He called
the very next morning and wanted us to come back and see what it would take to
repair it!!! He bent it bad on take off. Never flew it. That was sad. So that
said I am sort of a humble person and will never poo-poo flying advice even
from a student pilot. I want to be as sure as I can to not damage my Piet. Anyone
else with advice put it on here and I will read every word of it.
Sorry for the long post
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Jerry Dotson
59 Daniel Johnson Rd
Baker, FL 32531
Started building NX510JD July, 2009
thru covering and painting, now in final assembly
21" wheels
Lycoming O-235 C2C
Jay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44
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| Subject: | Re: NX510JD IS FLIGHT READY |
Jack I have a CloudCars prop and will have a 40 hour Phase I
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Jerry Dotson
59 Daniel Johnson Rd
Baker, FL 32531
Started building NX510JD July, 2009
thru covering and painting, now in final assembly
21" wheels
Lycoming O-235 C2C
Jay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44
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| Subject: | Re: NX510JD IS FLIGHT READY |
Congratulations Jerry! Be safe...
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Jack Textor
Sent from my iPad
On Jun 5, 2012, at 12:31 PM, "Jerry Dotson" <jdotson@centurylink.net> wrote:
>
> The DAR came and certified my Pietenpol this morning. The weather is not cooperating.
The forecasts look like it will be Saturday at least before this windy
low passes out of here. Lots of covers to put on before then any way.
>
> --------
> Jerry Dotson
> 59 Daniel Johnson Rd
> Baker, FL 32531
>
> Started building NX510JD July, 2009
> thru covering and painting, now in final assembly
> 21" wheels
> Lycoming O-235 C2C
> Jay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=374770#374770
>
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| Subject: | Re: t-nuts vs anchor nuts |
You could try crimping the T nut a little bit, to a slight oval shape to ma
ke it more like a lock-nut.- I have never tried it (just popped in my hea
d after replacing a couple nutplates at work today) but it might be worth e
xperimenting.- Otherwise just use some good locktight.
We have 304+hrs with T-nuts on the aileron hinges and no problems.
-
Shad
--- On Tue, 6/5/12, John Francis <Mrkringles@msn.com> wrote:
From: John Francis <Mrkringles@msn.com>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: t-nuts vs anchor nuts
Yes, to mount the piano hinge.- Thanks.
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The plans seem to show cable guides just outboard of the pulley going to
the stick and another in the area where the strut joins the spar. Are
just these two required or have people included more guides along the
distance?
Ralph in South Dakota
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| Subject: | Re: NX510JD IS FLIGHT READY |
Congratulations, Jerry.
Only 3 years, start to finish!
Quite an accomplishment.
Be patient with that first flight.
Hold off for decent weather. (Right, Douwe?)
Bill C.
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| Subject: | Re: t-nuts vs anchor nuts |
What spacing did you use with the T nuts/screws on the ailerons? When
using the piano MS--- type hinges on an aluminum plane, we put one rivet
at each hinge extension (the attach point). I am using the 1" wide MS
--- aluminum piano hinges and have installed 8-24 screws and the self
locking nut plates at every 3rd hinge extension. This does not seem as
good as, or as stable, as having an anchor at each hinge extension.
Placing the nut plate/screws any closer together may create a "fault
line", or weak point, along the aileron beams (spars).
Also, the self locking (slightly ovaled) nut plates work very well with
bolts with hex heads. But TOO well with Phillip head screws. The nut
plates are so tight they cause the heads to strip out before the screw
can be secured. I have opened the nut plates with an 8-24 tap before
installation so the oval is not so severe. I will use loctite when I
make the final installation.
Suggestions would help.
Thanks in advance.....
Ray Krause
Building the Sky Scout.
----- Original Message -----
From: shad bell
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2012 6:00 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: t-nuts vs anchor nuts
You could try crimping the T nut a little bit, to a slight oval
shape to make it more like a lock-nut. I have never tried it (just
popped in my head after replacing a couple nutplates at work today) but
it might be worth experimenting. Otherwise just use some good
locktight.
We have 304+hrs with T-nuts on the aileron hinges and no
problems.
Shad
--- On Tue, 6/5/12, John Francis <Mrkringles@msn.com> wrote:
From: John Francis <Mrkringles@msn.com>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: t-nuts vs anchor nuts
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Date: Tuesday, June 5, 2012, 12:29 PM
<Mrkringles@msn.com>
Yes, to mount the piano hinge. Thanks.
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| Subject: | Re: 1st flight--flaring high in a Pietenpol |
I have only flown 2 piets, both with Corvairs, Only advise I have is keep t
he pattern somewhat-tight, it won't glide very far.- If you experiance
an engine failure, drop an anvil over the side and land there, then get out
of the way, or the anvil will hit you in the head.- But seriously, keep
a little extra speed untill you get the hang of it, it bleeds off quickly,
and will forgive the higher approach (assuming you have plenty of runway).
- One other note about speed on final, Dad's piets center of gravity was
adjusted to him (about 30-40lbs heavier) when I fly it is a little nose hea
vy, I-run out of up elevator if I-get to slow before flairing.-Since
you haven't flown yours yet,--Keep an extra 10 mph in there for saftey,
and work it down from there.- You should not have any trouble, they fly
easy.
-
Shad
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--- On Tue, 6/5/12, Jerry Dotson <jdotson@centurylink.net> wrote:
From: Jerry Dotson <jdotson@centurylink.net>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: 1st flight--flaring high in a Pietenpol
et>
Mike,
I appreciate the heads up on flaring too high. I did that in a 600 hp Thrus
h about 40 years ago.....still have not forgotten that. I have 1800 hours t
ail wheel time but that don't mean a lot(nothing). I have not flown much in
the last last 20 years. I have made a dozen or so trips up and down the ru
nway and it is feeling better but I am in no real hurry to put it in the ai
r. I want to get real comfortable with the ground handling first.
True story time:
In the early 70's I was a partner in a Cessna 140. We sold it to a guy abou
t 40 miles away. We delivered it to him at his home airport. My partner ask
ed him if he wanted one of us to check him out in it. He stuck his chest ou
t and said "No man. I have 5000 hours in a P-51." So we went on our merry w
ay. He called the very next morning and wanted us to come back and see what
it would take to repair it!!! He bent it bad on take off. Never flew it. T
hat was sad. So that said I am sort of a humble person and will never poo-p
oo flying advice even from a student pilot. I want to be as sure as I can t
o not damage my Piet. Anyone else with advice put it on here and I will rea
d every word of it.
Sorry for the long post
do not archive
--------
Jerry Dotson
59 Daniel Johnson Rd
Baker, FL 32531
Started building- NX510JD- July, 2009
thru covering and painting, now in final assembly
21" wheels
Lycoming O-235 C2C
Jay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=374795#374795
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