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1. 02:01 AM - Roman Bukolt (Timothy Willis)
2. 02:38 AM - Re: Hardware Size (Jack Phillips)
3. 04:29 AM - Re: Who's planes are attending Brodhead? (helspersew@aol.com)
4. 04:54 AM - Re: Who's planes are attending Brodhead? (Robert Bush)
5. 05:07 AM - Re: Who's planes are attending Brodhead? (Don Emch)
6. 05:19 AM - Re: Who's planes are attending Brodhead? (airlion)
7. 06:47 AM - Re: NX53WE in the air (Michael Perez)
8. 07:22 AM - Re: Who's planes are attending Brodhead? (Dan Yocum)
9. 07:33 AM - did Jerry fly yet? (Douwe Blumberg)
10. 08:16 AM - Re: Piets flying to Brodhead (woodflier@aol.com)
11. 09:55 AM - My first Pietenpol flight (scudrun)
12. 10:04 AM - Re: My first Pietenpol flight (Jack Phillips)
13. 10:04 AM - Re: Re: Who's planes are attending Brodhead? (Jack@textors.com)
14. 10:12 AM - Re: My first Pietenpol flight (Jack@textors.com)
15. 10:25 AM - Re: My first Pietenpol flight (Jim Boyer)
16. 10:38 AM - Re: did Jerry fly yet? (Jerry Dotson)
17. 10:39 AM - Re: My first Pietenpol flight (Jerry Dotson)
18. 10:50 AM - Re: 37 Days (Dick N)
19. 01:25 PM - Re: 37 Days (Ken Bickers)
20. 03:20 PM - Fuel primer "A" (bender)
21. 04:36 PM - Re: 37 Days (Ralph)
22. 04:38 PM - Re: Fuel primer "A" (kevinpurtee)
23. 06:37 PM - Re: Anyone in the Omaha area???? (Chad Hill)
24. 06:58 PM - Re: Fuel primer "A" (Brett Phillips)
25. 09:49 PM - Piano hinge? (tdudley@umn.edu)
26. 11:14 PM - Re: Piano hinge? (Ryan Mueller)
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Roman was the first Pietenpol builder with whom I emailed back and forth
offsite, and the first I talked with on the phone. He was very helpful in
all respects. We met at Brodhead in 2006 and 2008 and he was even more
congenial and informative in person. The Pietenpol community will miss
him.
Here is a Roman story you may not know. My friend Tom visited Roman at his
home while Roman's Piet build was in early stages. Roman told Tom that he
had looked at over twenty houses before buying that one; in each case the
first criterion was seeing if a basement window was large enough to pass a
finished Piet fuselage. (No, I don't know if his spec. included the
turtledeck.)
Condolences to his friends and family.
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I used AN3's, with AN 970 washers under the nuts.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
aircamperace@yahoo.com
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2012 7:26 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Hardware Size
Can anyone please share with me what size hardware they used on the forward
rudder pedal brackets and control stick bearing mounts? I've searched the
archives and looked over the drawings with no luck. AN3s seem way too thick
for the copilots rudder pedals considering they are only going thru plywood.
Thanks,
Ryan
Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 10, 2012, at 3:53 PM, "moondogman" <jbciii5656@yahoo.com> wrote:
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| Subject: | Re: Who's planes are attending Brodhead? |
NX929DH will be there God willing, probably Thursday sometime.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
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| Subject: | Re: Who's planes are attending Brodhead? |
NX294RB will be there Thursday afternoon I hope
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On Jun 11, 2012, at 6:27 AM, helspersew@aol.com wrote:
> NX929DH will be there God willing, probably Thursday sometime.
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| Subject: | Re: Who's planes are attending Brodhead? |
NX899DE hasn't been much of a regular the past couple of years... and this year
my youngest daughter is in a wedding on that Saturday. Of all the 52 Saturdays
it had to be that one.....!! This would have been my 20th consecutive Brodhead
attendance! Oh well... it'll be worth missing I'm sure. I will be barnstorming
the Piet around Ohio and Indiana the week of Brodhead though. Right up
until Thursday or Friday... just can't head up that way. Next year.....
Don Emch
NX899DE
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| Subject: | Re: Who's planes are attending Brodhead? |
I will not be able to make it this year. I have one wing to cover and two w
ings to rib stitch. Then I have to put everything together and see if it st
ill flies.
Cheers, Gardiner.
--- On Sun, 6/10/12, Douwe Blumberg <douweblumberg@earthlink.net> wrote:
From: Douwe Blumberg <douweblumberg@earthlink.net>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Who's planes are attending Brodhead?
=0A=0A=0A =0A =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AI=99m wondering who IS
flying their Piets to Brodhead=0Athis year? =0A=0A =C2- =0A=0ASounds lik
e Jack P, Don Emch and Greg C probably won=99t=0Afor various reasons,
so there=99s three regulars gone. =0A=0A =C2- =0A=0AWho else is co
ming up?=C2- Sounding a bit skimpy =0A=0A =C2- =0A=0ADouwe =0A
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| Subject: | Re: NX53WE in the air |
That is good news Bob!- Fast build time, great speed range and it flies..
.mission accomplished.
Michael Perez
=0APietenpol HINT Videos
=0AKaretaker Aero
=0Awww.karetakeraero.com
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| Subject: | Re: Who's planes are attending Brodhead? |
Of course, N8031 will be there.
Dan
On 06/10/2012 08:51 PM, Douwe Blumberg wrote:
> Im wondering who IS flying their Piets to Brodhead this year?
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> Sounds like Jack P, Don Emch and Greg C probably wont for various
> reasons, so theres three regulars gone.
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Dan Yocum
Fermilab 630.840.6509
yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
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| Subject: | did Jerry fly yet? |
I seem to have missed one day of the list. Did Jerry fly yet??
Douwe
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| Subject: | Re: Piets flying to Brodhead |
Douwe, I'm planning on flying my Piet to Brodhead. Weather permitting, I ho
pe to be there by Thurday
afternoon.
Matt Paxton
NX629ML
From: "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg@earthlink.net>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Who's planes are attending Brodhead?
I'm wondering who IS flying their Piets to Brodhead this year?
Sounds like Jack P, Don Emch and Greg C probably won't for various reasons,
so there's three regulars gone.
Who else is coming up? Sounding a bit skimpy.
Douwe
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| Subject: | My first Pietenpol flight |
I flew C-GFQY for the first time last evening. After attending to a few details
since I bought her in the spring she was ready to go this weekend. Then it
was windy and then it rained, but Sunday about supper time, it promised to be
good so I drove out to the field. On top of the elevator in town the national
flag was fluttering with about 1/2 enthusiasm from the southwest. I wanted the
use the NW-SE runway though for the first flight, since the N-S one has houses
at the south end and tall trees and there is a forest at the north end but
the other runway has large fields off each end. We decided to sit and wait for
the evening lull. During some conversation about my nerves and other things
I noticed the flag hanging limp. It was now or never. But on starting the engine
I got no oil pressure. Uh oh, was this a sign? My nerves were acting up
again. Jim Armstrong came out and offered some advice on getting the pump primed
by adding an extra quart of oil and raising the tail while turning the prop.
This trick worked like a charm. Drained the excess oil and off I went.
I climbed to about 1000 feet and flew around for about half an hour over large
expanses of farm land with young crops gradually relaxing and getting the feel
of the piet. Then while heading west looking at the sparkle of the lowering
sun on Lake Huron I became aware of a significant drift to the North in my track.
I turned back to the the field and sure enough the flag was standing out
indicating the onshore breeze from the SW had kicked up again. Hmmm. What to
do? I decided to do a dry run on the approach so I could see how things might
go with a light 90 deg cross on my preferred runway hoping that it was calm close
to ground level. With a wing low I had no trouble tracking straight down
the runway and sure enough the wind seemed to die off at tree top height and
I could have continued on and landed but I don't like to deviate from a plan so
I went around and did it again. I carried a little power till just over the
threshold!
and had
a nice smooth landing and roll out. What a charming airplane was the first reaction
I had to the question How was it? from the folks gathered at the hangar.
And that is just how I felt when I flew her looking over the nose past those
eyebrows on the horizon. Charmed. It's just like stepping back in time to
an earlier era of aviation to fly one of these isn't it? I look forward to many
more.
Joe
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| Subject: | My first Pietenpol flight |
Fantastic, Joe!
Will you bring it to Brodhead next month?
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of scudrun
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 12:53 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: My first Pietenpol flight
I flew C-GFQY for the first time last evening. After attending to a few
details since I bought her in the spring she was ready to go this weekend.
Then it was windy and then it rained, but Sunday about supper time, it
promised to be good so I drove out to the field. On top of the elevator in
town the national flag was fluttering with about 1/2 enthusiasm from the
southwest. I wanted the use the NW-SE runway though for the first flight,
since the N-S one has houses at the south end and tall trees and there is a
forest at the north end but the other runway has large fields off each end.
We decided to sit and wait for the evening lull. During some conversation
about my nerves and other things I noticed the flag hanging limp. It was
now or never. But on starting the engine I got no oil pressure. Uh oh, was
this a sign? My nerves were acting up again. Jim Armstrong came out and
offered some advice on getting the pump primed by adding an extra quart of
oil and raising the!
tail while turning the prop. This trick worked like a charm. Drained the
excess oil and off I went. I climbed to about 1000 feet and flew around for
about half an hour over large expanses of farm land with young crops
gradually relaxing and getting the feel of the piet. Then while heading west
looking at the sparkle of the lowering sun on Lake Huron I became aware of a
significant drift to the North in my track. I turned back to the the field
and sure enough the flag was standing out indicating the onshore breeze from
the SW had kicked up again. Hmmm. What to do? I decided to do a dry run on
the approach so I could see how things might go with a light 90 deg cross on
my preferred runway hoping that it was calm close to ground level. With a
wing low I had no trouble tracking straight down the runway and sure enough
the wind seemed to die off at tree top height and I could have continued on
and landed but I don't like to deviate from a plan so I went around and did
it!
again. I carried a little power till just over the threshold!
and had
a nice smooth landing and roll out. What a charming airplane was the first
reaction I had to the question How was it? from the folks gathered at the
hangar. And that is just how I felt when I flew her looking over the nose
past those eyebrows on the horizon. Charmed. It's just like stepping back
in time to an earlier era of aviation to fly one of these isn't it? I look
forward to many more.
Joe
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| Subject: | Re: Who's planes are attending Brodhead? |
Will miss you Don!
Do not archive
Jack Textor
Sent from my iPad
On Jun 11, 2012, at 7:06 AM, "Don Emch" <EmchAir@aol.com> wrote:
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> NX899DE hasn't been much of a regular the past couple of years... and this year
my youngest daughter is in a wedding on that Saturday. Of all the 52 Saturdays
it had to be that one.....!! This would have been my 20th consecutive Brodhead
attendance! Oh well... it'll be worth missing I'm sure. I will be barnstorming
the Piet around Ohio and Indiana the week of Brodhead though. Right
up until Thursday or Friday... just can't head up that way. Next year.....
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| Subject: | Re: My first Pietenpol flight |
Joe that is great news, congratulations!
Do not archive
Jack Textor
Sent from my iPad
On Jun 11, 2012, at 11:53 AM, "scudrun" <jstreet@uwaterloo.ca> wrote:
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> I flew C-GFQY for the first time last evening. After attending to a few details
since I bought her in the spring she was ready to go this weekend. Then it
was windy and then it rained, but Sunday about supper time, it promised to be
good so I drove out to the field. On top of the elevator in town the national
flag was fluttering with about 1/2 enthusiasm from the southwest. I wanted
the use the NW-SE runway though for the first flight, since the N-S one has houses
at the south end and tall trees and there is a forest at the north end but
the other runway has large fields off each end. We decided to sit and wait
for the evening lull. During some conversation about my nerves and other things
I noticed the flag hanging limp. It was now or never. But on starting the
engine I got no oil pressure. Uh oh, was this a sign? My nerves were acting
up again. Jim Armstrong came out and offered some advice on getting the pump
primed by adding an extra quart of oil and raising the!
> tail while turning the prop. This trick worked like a charm. Drained the excess
oil and off I went. I climbed to about 1000 feet and flew around for about
half an hour over large expanses of farm land with young crops gradually relaxing
and getting the feel of the piet. Then while heading west looking at the
sparkle of the lowering sun on Lake Huron I became aware of a significant drift
to the North in my track. I turned back to the the field and sure enough
the flag was standing out indicating the onshore breeze from the SW had kicked
up again. Hmmm. What to do? I decided to do a dry run on the approach so I
could see how things might go with a light 90 deg cross on my preferred runway
hoping that it was calm close to ground level. With a wing low I had no trouble
tracking straight down the runway and sure enough the wind seemed to die
off at tree top height and I could have continued on and landed but I don't like
to deviate from a plan so I went around and did it!
> again. I carried a little power till just over the threshold!
> and had
>
> a nice smooth landing and roll out. What a charming airplane was the first reaction
I had to the question How was it? from the folks gathered at the hangar.
And that is just how I felt when I flew her looking over the nose past those
eyebrows on the horizon. Charmed. It's just like stepping back in time to
an earlier era of aviation to fly one of these isn't it? I look forward to many
more.
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| Subject: | Re: My first Pietenpol flight |
Sounds like a fantastic flight Joe, congratulations on flying the Piet and have
many more just like it.
Jim B.
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| Subject: | Re: did Jerry fly yet? |
Hi Douwe, No I have not had a decent day to fly yet!!!!!!!!!!!!!! There has been
a low pressure in here fueling rain and thunderstorms every day. I have been
ready since last Wednesday. Pensacola got 14" over the weekend. If it will quit
raining it will be Friday or Saturday before the water goes down on the runway.
It is raining right now.
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Jerry Dotson
59 Daniel Johnson Rd
Baker, FL 32531
Started building NX510JD July, 2009
thru covering and painting, now in final assembly
21" wheels
Lycoming O-235 C2C
Jay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44
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| Subject: | Re: My first Pietenpol flight |
That is fantastic news. Glad you had an uneventful flight!
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Jerry Dotson
59 Daniel Johnson Rd
Baker, FL 32531
Started building NX510JD July, 2009
thru covering and painting, now in final assembly
21" wheels
Lycoming O-235 C2C
Jay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44
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I am planning my annual flight, I will be there on Wed weather permitting of
course.
Dick N.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Markle" <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2012 8:24 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: 37 Days
> <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
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Kevin and I will be coming in the Pacer and arriving Thursday,
assuming the weather gods are smiling on us.
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 11:49 AM, Dick N <horzpool@goldengate.net> wrote:
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> I am planning my annual flight, I will be there on Wed weather permitting of
> course.
> Dick N.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Markle" <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
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> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: 37 Days
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You guys with Ford A's...
it looks like most have drilled a hole at the top of the intake manifold for a
primer line..centered above the down tube.
is this any kind of special fitting or just 1/8" pipe with a line to it ?
i was thinking maybe it should be more toward the front or back... but if it works
good in the middle i'm cool with that,
the other thing is the primer itself.... i was thinking about putting it out by
the engine.. just above the cascolator...short lines.. and i'll be out there
starting it anyway..
thanks..
jeff
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My wife and I will be driving out and arriving Thursday afternoon. I am
looking forward to inspecting a lot of planes for ideas as I move
forward on the cable installations.
Ralph and Carol in South Dakota
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel primer "A" |
Ya know, Jeff, I don't have an A installation, and I know nothing about A installations,
but I can tell you all about my Corvair primer.....
(Forgive me. Just thought I'd beat the rush. Someone with a functioning A will
respond. You can slap me at Brodhead.)
do not archive :D
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Kevin "Axel" Purtee
NX899KP
Austin/San Marcos, TX
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| Subject: | Re: Anyone in the Omaha area???? |
Jim email me at crhill74(at)yahoo.com. I live in Bellevue, NE.
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel primer "A" |
Most of the Ford conversions that I have been around did not need a primer
for starting in normal flying temperatures. From my experience, the
starting drill has been: switch off, fuel on, throttle closed, pull
through 4 leisurely blades, then make it hot and it will go. Alternately,
do all as above, except when you hear it sucking on the intake stroke,
rock the prop back and forth a few times to load the intake until it drips
(not my favorite due to fire danger), then make it hot and it will go.
Depending on the temperature, you might or might not need to crack the
throttle after pulling it through. This has been the drill with NX311GP,
another engine that my dad and I built 25 years ago, and as I recall, that
was the way Allen Rudolf started N13691. NX311GP has a B carb, the engine
from my childhood has an A carb, and Mr Rudolf used a B carb. I would
imagine that the Tillotson would be similar. BTW, the B carbs are
designed to run with the "Gas Adjusting Valve" (main mixture needle)
closed after warm up, but the A carbs usually need to be opened a bit.
Since these carbs are now 80 years old, this shouldn't be taken as gospel,
but it might be useful as a guideline.
Brett Phillips
"simplicate and add lightness"
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Hey all,
I need to place an order for aileron piano hinges. Does anyone have either an
Aircraft Spruce or Wick's parts number on what they used? I looked through the
online catalog and didn't see exactly what I thought I need. Any help would
be appreciated.
Thanks,
Tom
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| Subject: | Re: Piano hinge? |
About 5 minutes searching in the archives reveals:
http://www.matronics.com/searching/getmsg_script.cgi?INDEX=27091722?KEYS=piano_hinge?LISTNAME=Pietenpol?HITNUMBER=240?SERIAL=22460831284X?SHOWBUTTONS=YES
And: http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/mepages/pianohinge.php
http://www.matronics.com/search
Choose the Piet archive, follow the instructions to properly format your
search. Play around with it for a while, a wealth of info in there...
Ryan
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 11:49 PM, tdudley@umn.edu <tdudley@umn.edu> wrote:
>
> Hey all,
>
> I need to place an order for aileron piano hinges. Does anyone have
> either an Aircraft Spruce or Wick's parts number on what they used? I
> looked through the online catalog and didn't see exactly what I thought I
> need. Any help would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tom
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=375355#375355
>
>
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