---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 06/13/12: 29 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:45 AM - Elevator control trim (Mark Roberts) 2. 04:23 AM - Re: Elevator control trim (Peter W Johnson) 3. 05:06 AM - Re: Re: 2812 and 1667 Streamline Tubing Information (airlion) 4. 05:13 AM - =?Windows-1252?B?UmU6IFBpZXRlbnBvbC1MaXN0OiBQcm9ncmVzcyB0b25pZ2h0hSBKdXN0IDIgbW9yZSBzdHJpbmdlcnM=? (gboothe5@comcast.net) 5. 05:18 AM - Re: Re: turnbuckle size (gboothe5@comcast.net) 6. 05:18 AM - Re: Elevator control trim (pineymb) 7. 06:27 AM - BPA sculpture (Douwe Blumberg) 8. 06:47 AM - Re: BPA sculpture (kevinpurtee) 9. 07:29 AM - Re: Elevator control trim (Jim Markle) 10. 08:13 AM - reminder (Lawrence Williams) 11. 08:15 AM - Re: turnbuckle size (Baldeagle) 12. 08:19 AM - Re: reminder (Baldeagle) 13. 09:25 AM - Re: reminder (John Kuhfahl) 14. 11:24 AM - Skip Gadd (Lawrence Williams) 15. 11:48 AM - Re: Skip Gadd (Jim Markle) 16. 12:08 PM - His Royal Curmudgeon, Lawrence Williams (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]) 17. 01:04 PM - Re: 2812 and 1667 Streamline Tubing Information (Jerry Dotson) 18. 01:36 PM - =?utf-8?Q?Re:__Progress_?= =?utf-8?Q?tonight_Just_2_more_stringers? (Jim Boyer) 19. 01:42 PM - Re: reminder (DO NOT ARCHIVE) 20. 02:11 PM - weight and CG (bender) 21. 04:25 PM - Re: Re: reminder (Ryan M) 22. 04:37 PM - Re: Re: reminder (gboothe5@comcast.net) 23. 04:38 PM - Re: reminder (BYD) 24. 07:12 PM - =?Windows-1252?Q?Re:_Pieten?= =?Windows-1252?Q?pol-List:_?= =?Windows-1252?Q?Progress_t?= =?Windows-1252?Q?onight=85_Ju?= =?Windows-1252?Q?st_2_more_?= =?Windows-1252?Q?stringers? (V Groah) 25. 07:35 PM - NX53WE has 2 hours (Bob edson) 26. 08:15 PM - Re: Progress =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tonight=85?= Ju st 2 more stringers (Mark Roberts) 27. 08:23 PM - Hey! Pulley my finger! A pulley question... (Mark Roberts) 28. 10:47 PM - AN Bolt deciphering - Resource (Mark Roberts) 29. 11:24 PM - Re: AN Bolt deciphering - Resource (Mark Roberts) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:45:25 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Elevator control trim From: Mark Roberts Since I can't sleep tonight thinking about my build, I want to ask a question regarding trim on the elevator controls. I have seen Mike Cuy's treatment on the elevator trim, and have planned to imitate it (best form of flattery Mike!). I thought I'd ask if there were other forms of trim being used by you pieters, and if there are pics anywhere. I am at the point of building my seat and pilot's 'perch' so I want to plan out the trim arrangement. I am going to buy the rest of the Bingalis books soon, so if there is a good reference on this in one of them, point me in the right direction coach! Thanks! Mark ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:23:19 AM PST US From: "Peter W Johnson" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Elevator control trim Mark, This is what I did. Cockpit end http://www.cpc-world.com/new_card_images/images/IMG_0710_JPG.jpg Bell crank end http://www.cpc-world.com/images/IMG_1102_JPG.jpg Hope that helps. Peter Wonthaggi Australia http://www.cpc-world.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Roberts Sent: Wednesday, 13 June 2012 6:45 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Elevator control trim --> Since I can't sleep tonight thinking about my build, I want to ask a question regarding trim on the elevator controls. I have seen Mike Cuy's treatment on the elevator trim, and have planned to imitate it (best form of flattery Mike!). I thought I'd ask if there were other forms of trim being used by you pieters, and if there are pics anywhere. I am at the point of building my seat and pilot's 'perch' so I want to plan out the trim arrangement. I am going to buy the rest of the Bingalis books soon, so if there is a good reference on this in one of them, point me in the right direction coach! Thanks! Mark ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:06:54 AM PST US From: airlion Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: 2812 and 1667 Streamline Tubing Information carlson aircraft. they sell tubing ----- Original Message ---- From: Ken Bickers Sent: Tue, June 12, 2012 11:58:25 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: 2812 and 1667 Streamline Tubing Information That's too bad. I was hoping you had stumbled onto a source. I'm at exactly the point of needing to install diagonal struts. On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 9:35 PM, curtdm(at)gmail.com wrote: > > Ken, > > Unfortunately no, I do not have a source. I did the previous post just for >reference. > > Like with the turnbuckles, it's nice to know what dimensions or strength the >plans are referring to. > > -------- > Curt Merdan > Flower Mound, TX > > Do Not Archive > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=375478#375478 > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:13:04 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: =?Windows-1252?B?UmU6IFBpZXRlbnBvbC1MaXN0OiBQcm9ncmVzcyB0b25pZ2h0hSBKdXN0IDIgbW9yZSBzdHJpbmdlcnM=? From: gboothe5@comcast.net That's nice progress, Mark! Gary Do not archive Sent on the Sprint Now Network from my BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: MARK ROBERTS Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:18:13 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: turnbuckle size From: gboothe5@comcast.net Thanks for posting that, Curt! Gary Do not archive ------Original Message------ From: curtdm(at)gmail.com Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com ReplyTo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: turnbuckle size Sent: Jun 12, 2012 3:52 PM Finally an answer to all your turnbuckle questions. Curt Merdan Flower Mound, TX Please Print and Archive!!! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=375456#375456 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/turnbuckles_627.png Sent on the Sprint Now Network from my BlackBerry ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 05:18:47 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Elevator control trim From: "pineymb" Mark My Piet originally had a push/pull cable operating a trim tab on the elevator. The problem was constantly having to adjust the trim in flight due to drift in the cable. The solution was to bust off the plastic knob and add threads to attach a turnbuckle which works absolutely flawless and allows for very small adjustments which comes in handy if you have a header fuel tank. -------- Adrian M Winnipeg, MB Canada Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=375504#375504 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc00556_154.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc00216_208.jpg ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:27:19 AM PST US From: "Douwe Blumberg" Subject: Pietenpol-List: BPA sculpture Hopefully the link posted allowed people to see the sculptures I'm donating. I think you can also see them on my website under limited editions. www.douwestudios.com They are for sale privately, and I'll still make a BPA donation from those sales if anyone is interested, but can't make Brodhead. I kind of did them for fun and have only displayed them once, so only one has sold of each. I'll have to go back and find the pricing, but anyone interested can contact me offline. Douwe Progress report. Got Marci to help last night and got all the stitching done on the tail surfaces. Taping for the next few days, then start on the fuse! Called my hangar owner and told him to make plans to move his big ugly Waco over and make room for a real airplane!! ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 06:47:10 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: BPA sculpture From: "kevinpurtee" You freakin' rock, Douwe! do not archive -------- Kevin "Axel" Purtee NX899KP Austin/San Marcos, TX Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=375521#375521 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 07:29:10 AM PST US From: Jim Markle Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Elevator control trim Here's (attached picture) about the neatest solution for an easily adjustable and stable trim tab adjustment on a Piet....it's just an RV window crank....cool idea. Jim in Pryor...counting the days..... ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 08:13:21 AM PST US From: Lawrence Williams Subject: Pietenpol-List: reminder Since I have been singled out for ridicule recently and I am currently at h ome closely monitoring this site, I thought it might be time for a quick re minder: - If your comments are "atta-boys", lengthy responses followed by something l ike"but mine hasn't flown yet" or "this is only my opinion"; Please follow your signature with DO NOT ARCHIVE. That will keep our already tedious arch ives a bit more to the point without having to wade through all the superfl uous drivel that won't mean a thing to people 25 years from now. - Now, I'm going to my anger management class, take my blood pressure meds an d think happy thoughts.....aummmmmm. - I have a sticking exhaust valve on the "A" that will be dealt with as soon as I am done with the annual on the Ercoupe. If everything falls into place , I will be at the 'Coupe national fly-in and Brodhead. Other things are mi lling around on the edges of my consciousness making me rethink this whole retirement thing. Never been so busy in my life!! - Larry (Top Curmudgeon) Williams - DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 08:15:47 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: turnbuckle size From: "Baldeagle" That's a neat chart for the old timey turnbuckles. For the modern ones the dash number designates the pull strength, -16 is 1600 lbs., -22 is 2200 lbs. etc. This doens't seem to match exactly on the Aircraft Spruce chart, http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/turnbuckles.php , but it's the basic premise. So -16 is for 3/32" cable, -22 is for 1/8" cable, -32 is for 5/32" cable, and so on, to match the strength of the cable. - -------- do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=375531#375531 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 08:19:08 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: reminder From: "Baldeagle" Where's the "Like" button?? - -------- do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=375532#375532 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 09:25:48 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: reminder From: John Kuhfahl something cool here...how many Piet/Ercoupe owners do we have? I own/totally restored my 1946 415C and finishing up a 70s built Piet restoration. John do not archive On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 10:12 AM, Lawrence Williams wrote: > Since I have been singled out for ridicule recently and I am currently at > home closely monitoring this site, I thought it might be time for a quick > reminder: > > If your comments are "atta-boys", lengthy responses followed by something > like"but mine hasn't flown yet" or "this is only my opinion"; Please follow > your signature with DO NOT ARCHIVE. That will keep our already tedious > archives a bit more to the point without having to wade through all the > superfluous drivel that won't mean a thing to people 25 years from now. > > Now, I'm going to my anger management class, take my blood pressure meds > and think happy thoughts.....aummmmmm. > > I have a sticking exhaust valve on the "A" that will be dealt with as soon > as I am done with the annual on the Ercoupe. If everything falls into > place, I will be at the 'Coupe national fly-in and Brodhead. Other things > are milling around on the edges of my consciousness making me rethink this > whole retirement thing. Never been so busy in my life!! > > Larry (Top Curmudgeon) Williams > > DO NOT ARCHIVE > > * > > * > > -- John Kuhfahl, Lt Col USAF (Ret), President, KUHLCOUPER LLC ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 11:24:30 AM PST US From: Lawrence Williams Subject: Pietenpol-List: Skip Gadd Anybody know contact info for Skip Gadd??? - Larry "TC" Williams - do not archive ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 11:48:04 AM PST US From: Jim Markle Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Skip Gadd WOW! That matronics search thingy REALLY works well!!!..... Match: #1 Message: #67790 From: "skipgadd(at)earthlink.net" Subject: Re: Wing Tip Bows Date: Apr 16, 2012 You are right Gary, had to look in the archives to recall what I said, Aug 8 2009. I agree with you, it is a good idea to measure corner to corner both ways frequently while assembling the wing, so the wing is as close as possible to square before you do the actual trammeling with turnbuckles. Skip > [Original Message] > From: Gary Boothe > To: > Date: 4/15/2012 1:47:41 PM > Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing Tip Bows > > > Additional thought, John...I think it was Skip Gadd who talked about > trammeling at least 3 times, during each phase of the construct. Seems like > it would be a mistake to trammel the first time after the leading and > trailing edges are on. > > Gary from Cool > NX308MB -----Original Message----- From: Lawrence Williams Sent: Jun 13, 2012 1:22 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Skip Gadd Anybody know contact info for Skip Gadd??? Larry "TC" Williams do not archive ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 12:08:29 PM PST US From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]" Subject: Pietenpol-List: His Royal Curmudgeon, Lawrence Williams Larry, The only posts that should be archived are your reminders to add the 'do no t archive' to posts that well, aren't worthy of taking up space. (and of course mine:)) I must not know you Larry-you have always been a really gentle, cordial, fr iendly gentleman over the many times I've visited with you at Brodhead. (until I mention snowflakes and GN-1's bei ng exactly the same only a little heavier than Piets:)!) Mike C. do not archive ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 01:04:06 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: 2812 and 1667 Streamline Tubing Information From: "Jerry Dotson" I used P/N 03-11500 from ACS dimensions are 1.349 X 0.571 wall is 0.049 Price is $12.94 per foot. do not archive -------- Jerry Dotson 59 Daniel Johnson Rd Baker, FL 32531 Started building NX510JD July, 2009 thru covering and painting, now in final assembly 21" wheels Lycoming O-235 C2C Jay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=375581#375581 ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 01:36:27 PM PST US From: Jim Boyer Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_Pietenpol-List:_Progress_?= =?utf-8?Q?tonight_Just_2_more_stringers? Hi Mark, The Piet fuselage is looking good. Keep at it and you can give Jody a ride in her own (and yours) Piet. Cheers, Jim B. do not archive ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 01:42:37 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: reminder From: "DO NOT ARCHIVE" Dear Sir: My user name and signature have been adjusted in accordance with your wishes. I hope to never be guilty of polluting the database with worthless drivel again. Humbly Yours, DO NOT ARCHIVE -------- Brett Phillips PLEASE DO NOT ARCHIVE! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=375586#375586 ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 02:11:28 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: weight and CG From: "bender" Hey guys.. I weighed the piet today... all together but with fabric only on the control surfaces.. I'm wishing it was lighter but i'm at 649 lb's .. empty with oil and water.. cg is 10.65 with me in the back and no fuel cg is at 19.92 with fuel it moves forward less than a half inch. I'm thinking with the rest of the fabric and paint i'm looking at an another 35-40 lbs.. based on the polyfober manual number of 43 lbs to cover a cub. i'm thinking most of that fabric and paint are behind the CG so its gonna move back a bit more.. a bit of wing moving may be in order jeff Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=375588#375588 ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 04:25:52 PM PST US From: Ryan M Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: reminder Can some one please tell me what this "do not archive" thing is all about? I've spent the required hour searching the archives before asking this ques tion and came up absolutely nothing! ;)=0A=0A=0ARyan M=0A=0ADo not archive =0A=0A________________________________=0A From: DO NOT ARCHIVE =0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 4:42 PM=0ASubject: Pietenpol-List: Re: reminder=0A =0A--> Pietenpol-Li st message posted by: "DO NOT ARCHIVE" =0A=0ADear Sir :=0AMy user name and signature have been adjusted in accordance with your w ishes.- I hope to never be guilty of polluting the database with worthles s drivel again.=0A=0AHumbly Yours,=0A=0ADO NOT ARCHIVE=0A=0A--------=0ABret t Phillips=0APLEASE DO NOT ARCHIVE!=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online he re:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=375586#375586=0A=0A =========================0A ====================== ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 04:37:40 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: reminder From: gboothe5@comcast.net V2hldyEgVGhhbmtzLCBSeWFuISBJIG1hZGUgc2V2ZXJhbCBwb3N0cyB0aGlzIHdlZWssIGZyb20g bXkgY29ycCBCbGFja0JlcnJ5LCBjb21wbGV0ZSB3aXRoIGxlZ2FsIG11bWJvLWp1bWJvLCBhbmQg d2FzIGFmcmFpZCBJIG1pZ2h0IGhhdmUgYmVlbiBhbiBvZmZlbmRpbmcgcGFydHkuDQoNCkdhcnkg ZnJvbSBDb29sDQpEbyBub3QgYXJjaGl2ZQ0KU2VudCBvbiB0aGUgU3ByaW50riBOb3cgTmV0d29y ayBmcm9tIG15IEJsYWNrQmVycnmuDQoNCi0tLS0tT3JpZ2luYWwgTWVzc2FnZS0tLS0tDQpGcm9t OiBSeWFuIE0gPGFpcmNhbXBlcmFjZUB5YWhvby5jb20+DQpTZW5kZXI6IG93bmVyLXBpZXRlbnBv bC1saXN0LXNlcnZlckBtYXRyb25pY3MuY29tDQpEYXRlOiBXZWQsIDEzIEp1biAyMDEyIDE2OjI1 OjE3IA0KVG86IHBpZXRlbnBvbC1saXN0QG1hdHJvbmljcy5jb208cGlldGVucG9sLWxpc3RAbWF0 cm9uaWNzLmNvbT4NClJlcGx5LVRvOiBwaWV0ZW5wb2wtbGlzdEBtYXRyb25pY3MuY29tU3ViamVj dDogUmU6IFBpZXRlbnBvbC1MaXN0OiBSZTogcmVtaW5kZXINCg0KQ2FuIHNvbWUgb25lIHBsZWFz ZSB0ZWxsIG1lIHdoYXQgdGhpcyAiZG8gbm90IGFyY2hpdmUiIHRoaW5nIGlzIGFsbCBhYm91dD8g SSd2ZSBzcGVudCB0aGUgcmVxdWlyZWQgaG91ciBzZWFyY2hpbmcgdGhlIGFyY2hpdmVzIGJlZm9y ZSBhc2tpbmcgdGhpcyBxdWVzdGlvbiBhbmQgY2FtZSB1cCBhYnNvbHV0ZWx5IG5vdGhpbmchIDsp CgoKUnlhbiBNCgpEbyBub3QgYXJjaGl2ZQoKX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19f X18KIEZyb206IERPIE5PVCBBUkNISVZFIDxicGhpbGxpcEBzaGVudGVsLm5ldD4KVG86IHBpZXRl bnBvbC1saXN0QG1hdHJvbmljcy5jb20gClNlbnQ6IFdlZG5lc2RheSwgSnVuZSAxMywgMjAxMiA0 OjQyIFBNClN1YmplY3Q6IFBpZXRlbnBvbC1MaXN0OiBSZTogcmVtaW5kZXIKIAotLT4gUGlldGVu cG9sLUxpc3QgbWVzc2FnZSBwb3N0ZWQgYnk6ICJETyBOT1QgQVJDSElWRSIgPGJwaGlsbGlwQHNo ZW50ZWwubmV0PgoKRGVhciBTaXI6Ck15IHVzZXIgbmFtZSBhbmQgc2lnbmF0dXJlIGhhdmUgYmVl biBhZGp1c3RlZCBpbiBhY2NvcmRhbmNlIHdpdGggeW91ciB3aXNoZXMuoCBJIGhvcGUgdG8gbmV2 ZXIgYmUgZ3VpbHR5IG9mIHBvbGx1dGluZyB0aGUgZGF0YWJhc2Ugd2l0aCB3b3J0aGxlc3MgZHJp dmVsIGFnYWluLgoKSHVtYmx5IFlvdXJzLAoKRE8gTk9UIEFSQ0hJVkUKCi0tLS0tLS0tCkJyZXR0 IFBoaWxsaXBzClBMRUFTRSBETyBOT1QgQVJDSElWRSEKCgoKClJlYWQgdGhpcyB0b3BpYyBvbmxp bmUgaGVyZToKCmh0dHA6Ly9mb3J1bXMubWF0cm9uaWNzLmNvbS92aWV3dG9waWMucGhwP3A9Mzc1 NTg2IzM3NTU4NgoKPT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09Cj09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09 PT09DQo ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 04:38:33 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: reminder From: "BYD" I too have changed my signature since I blatantly used terminology like"but mine hasn't flown yet" or "this is only my opinion" and I hate the ruffled feathers look on the Top Curmudgeon. -------- Please check with Larry "TC" Williams before archiving, otherwise, DO NOT ARCHIVE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=375602#375602 ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 07:12:05 PM PST US From: V Groah Subject: Pietenpol-List: =?Windows-1252?Q?RE:_Pieten?= =?Windows-1252?Q?pol-List:_?= =?Windows-1252?Q?Progress_t?= =?Windows-1252?Q?onight=85_Ju?= =?Windows-1252?Q?st_2_more_?= =?Windows-1252?Q?stringers? It is a long project but each piece makes it so much better and closer to f light. Love to see the progress=2C it is too bad your joints look so good and make some of the rest of us look sloppy. Vic do not archive From: boyerjrb@comcast.net Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Progress tonight=85 Just 2 more stringers Hi Mark=2C The Piet fuselage is looking good. Keep at it and you can give Jody a ride in her own (and yours) Piet. Cheers=2C Jim B. do not archive ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 07:35:40 PM PST US From: "Bob edson" Subject: Pietenpol-List: NX53WE has 2 hours Our instructor flew again wednesday eve for over an hour and all went good. Low speed pass at 30 mph - high speed at 103 mph and stalls at 27. It weighs in at 805 empty with an 0-200 and a 72-44 wood prop. He made several landings and said he likes wheel landings with a little power. What a thrill to see it fly. Bob ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 08:15:47 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Progress =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tonight=85?= Ju st 2 more stringers From: "Mark Roberts" Thanks Guys! Believe it or not, the hardest part isn't the building, it is the compilation of the steel parts needed to order from ACS! I have spent the last few hours looking at all I need to order to build the fuse control stuff. Part of the fun! Vic, I will call you tonight as I see you called when I was away. Mark Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=375623#375623 ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 08:23:25 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Hey! Pulley my finger! A pulley question... From: "Mark Roberts" OK, I know the plans were drawn in the 30's and things change. But since we are still building these things into this century, what are you all using for a 2" pulley on the control stick assembly? I have put an order list together from ACS and have almost everything 'cept the pulleys and the nuts and bolts identified for the order, and I can't find the phenolic pulleys that are 2" diameter for a 1/8" cable. the closest I found was A-123, a 2" OD with a 1.5" ID, but only accepts up to a 3/32" cable, not 1/8". Suggestions? I might be too picky here, but some stuff I am just plain ignorant about and this is one of them. (And I am not taking suggestions regarding the other things I might be ignorant about from any other west coast pieters...) Thanks guys! Hope to be ordering very soon. I am ready for some steel! Mark -------- do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=375624#375624 ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 10:47:15 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: AN Bolt deciphering - Resource From: Mark Roberts The hardest part of this build (OK, for me perhaps who is so ADD that I am still trying to remember where my meds are located...) is the stinkin' hardware. I have compiled a list of metal, and am now "bolting"... I am assuming that most of the bolts I get could have a hole in the shaft to use if necessary. Is there any potential down side to this idea of ordering all the bolts with holes in the threaded end. I can bet there would be a problem if I needed the hole and didn't have it... Thoughts? Here's a link to what I thought was a helpful chart. I hope it might help others with my same affliction (Harumph!) http://www.gen-aircraft-hardware.com/images/pdf/an3_thru_an20.pdf Mark ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 11:24:47 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: AN Bolt deciphering - Resource From: Mark Roberts Sorry guys... Just found the bolt selector tool on ACS. Geez... that helps a lot. On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 10:46 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: > The hardest part of this build (OK, for me perhaps who is so ADD that I am > still trying to remember where my meds are located...) is the stinkin' > hardware. I have compiled a list of metal, and am now "bolting"... > > I am assuming that most of the bolts I get could have a hole in the shaft > to use if necessary. Is there any potential down side to this idea of > ordering all the bolts with holes in the threaded end. I can bet there > would be a problem if I needed the hole and didn't have it... > > Thoughts? > > Here's a link to what I thought was a helpful chart. I hope it might help > others with my same affliction (Harumph!) > > http://www.gen-aircraft-hardware.com/images/pdf/an3_thru_an20.pdf > > Mark > > * > > * > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.