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1. 03:48 AM - Re: Horn mistake.... (Jack Phillips)
2. 03:59 AM - Re: Re: What welding rod did you use for 4130? (Jeff Wilson)
3. 03:59 AM - Re: Horn mistake.... (giacummo)
4. 05:44 AM - Re: Turnbuckles for sale (899PM)
5. 06:27 AM - Re: Horn mistake.... (kevinpurtee)
6. 06:40 AM - Re: What welding rod did you use for 4130? (scudrun)
7. 07:15 AM - Re: What welding rod did you use for 4130? (scudrun)
8. 08:34 AM - Log Book (Gary Boothe)
9. 08:41 AM - Re: Turnbuckles for sale (gfinley)
10. 08:53 AM - Re: Log Book (tools)
11. 09:03 AM - Re: Log Book (Jack Phillips)
12. 09:16 AM - Re: Log Book (Gary Boothe)
13. 09:28 AM - Re: Log Book (Ken Bickers)
14. 09:48 AM - Re: Re: Log Book (Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB)
15. 10:01 AM - Re: Log Book (C N Campbell)
16. 10:04 AM - Re: Re: Horn mistake.... (C N Campbell)
17. 10:14 AM - Re: Log Book (gboothe5@comcast.net)
18. 10:58 AM - Re: Turnbuckles for sale (namrednos)
19. 11:05 AM - Re: Log Book (C N Campbell)
20. 11:14 AM - Re: Horn mistake.... (giacummo)
21. 11:19 AM - Duel time (gboothe5@comcast.net)
22. 11:22 AM - Engine Assembly Update (Michael Perez)
23. 11:26 AM - Re: Turnbuckles for sale (899PM)
24. 11:48 AM - Re: Duel time (Jack Phillips)
25. 11:49 AM - Re: Duel time (Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB)
26. 11:54 AM - Re: Engine Assembly Update (Jack Phillips)
27. 12:10 PM - Re: Duel time (John Hofmann)
28. 12:24 PM - Re: Engine Assembly Update (Michael Perez)
29. 12:41 PM - Mike Perez's Engine Assembly Update (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC])
30. 12:44 PM - from blizzard to 95F and a clean engine case in June (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC])
31. 01:11 PM - Re: Duel time (kevinpurtee)
32. 03:32 PM - Re: Re: Duel time (Gary Boothe)
33. 03:38 PM - Re: Re: Log Book (Gary Boothe)
34. 03:42 PM - Re: Engine Assembly Update (Gary Boothe)
35. 04:19 PM - Re: Re: Duel time (airlion)
36. 04:20 PM - Re: Re: Dual time (Gary Boothe)
37. 05:42 PM - Re: Turnbuckles for sale (Dave Millikan)
38. 05:57 PM - Re: Re: Re: Duel time (Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB)
39. 06:17 PM - pinstriping tape (Douwe Blumberg)
40. 06:19 PM - Re: Duel time (Ben Charvet)
41. 06:27 PM - Re: Engine Assembly Update (Bill Church)
42. 06:31 PM - Re: Duel time (gboothe5@comcast.net)
43. 07:27 PM - WACO Fly-In Ohio(Free food) (shad bell)
44. 07:53 PM - Re: Horn mistake.... (Clif Dawson)
45. 08:25 PM - Re: pinstriping tape (Gerry Holland)
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| Subject: | Horn mistake.... |
I agree with Greg, Mario. If you put a smaller horn on the rudder than it
was designed for, two things will happen: Rudder pedal forces will go up,
and rudder sensitivity will increase. I can't predict how this will affect
the handling of the airplane, but I can say that if built as designed, the
rudder on this airplane feels just about perfect - light forces on the
rudder bar and just the right sensitivity and rudder authority. I would not
recommend changing the design, but would cut the fabric off and do it
correctly.
Don't worry - you are not the first to make a mistake building this (or any
other) airplane. I'm in the process of packing to move from my house in
North Carolina to our new home at Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia and as I
packed up my workshop I found a whole box of scrap parts I produced while
building my Pietenpol. I actually built about one and a half Pietenpols,
judging from all the parts that I made that I later determined were not good
enough to trust my life to. Part of the educational process in building a
plane is learning through painful experience that mistakes must be
corrected, even if it means doing some tasks over again.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Greg
Cardinal
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 12:31 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Horn mistake....
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Mario,
Do the right thing. Uncover the rudder enough to remove the incorrectly
installed horn. Not only will this be easier than making a new horn but
leaving the smaller horn on the rudder will change the geometry of the
rudder control.
Greg Cardinal
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From: "giacummo" <mario.giacummo@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 8:50 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Horn mistake....
> <mario.giacummo@gmail.com>
>
> Hello,
>
> I did a mistake and I have two choices to correct it. I am covering the
> rudder and stabilizer of the piet to practice with the process and ..
> finish some parts. When I cover the rudder, I put the elevator horn in
> place of the rudder horn... two or three months ago, and I just discover
> the error ( I dcide to cover the stabilizer now and when I was searchin
> for the horns I saw I have two of different size!!).
> The solution of course is replace the horn .. of course, but for that I
> have to cut the cover (it is painted now) and recover this place..
> The other option is make an other horn, and keep the rudder horn smaller
> than the one designed for the Piet.
>
> My question is.. is there any trouble in keeping the small horn in the
> rudder or I have to change it?.. Lots of you have flown the Piet..may be
> you can guide me about this little problem.
>
> Thank you and regards
>
> Mario
>
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> Mario Giacummo
> http://vgmk1.blogspot.com
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> Read this topic online here:
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| Subject: | Re: What welding rod did you use for 4130? |
Very interesting. I would to try that. Where does one find a jar of Sodium Nitrite?
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On Jun 20, 2012, at 11:24 PM, "scudrun" <jstreet@uwaterloo.ca> wrote:
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> Chemical sharpening:
>
> You get a jar of sodium nitrite. Hold your electrode in a pair of pliers and
fire up a propane torch and just heat the tip of the tungsten until it glows red
in the flame. Then quickly before it cools dip it in the sodium nitrite powder,
moving it in small circles and up and down a little. A reaction takes place
as the oxydizing salt reacts with the hot tungsten and the tungsten is removed
forming a beautiful smooth sharp tip. You quickly learn that you can control
the angle of the sharpening by how far you dip the tungsten into the pool
that forms on the poweder as it melts and reacts. There are no grinding marks
on the electrode which is what makes the arc wander and difficult to control
on low power thin metal welding where you need fine control. Also grinding
releases fine dust which you don't want to breathe especially if you are using
thoriated tungsten which contains a few percent radioactive thorium. Here's
a photo of a 1/16" lanthanated electrode I chemically!
> sharpened using this technique. Look at the fine tip on it!
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| Subject: | Re: Horn mistake.... |
Greg, Jack, thank you.. it's enough, let's replace it and learn how to make a patch
over the cover.. uffff....
Regards.
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Mario Giacummo
http://vgmk1.blogspot.com
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| Subject: | Re: Turnbuckles for sale |
Ray,
I will save you (20) and call you tonight with info. Thanx.
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| Subject: | Re: Horn mistake.... |
Mario - Cutting & patching is a necessary skill and you may as well learn it now.
It's really pretty simple.
Ask me how I know.
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Kevin "Axel" Purtee
NX899KP
Austin/San Marcos, TX
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| Subject: | Re: What welding rod did you use for 4130? |
It is a food additive for making sausage. You might be able to find it cheap from
a food suuply. Here is my suggestion;
http://www.sigmaaldrich.com/catalog/product/sial/237213?lang=en®ion=US
[quote="jlwilsonnn(at)yahoo.com"]Very interesting. I would to try that. Where does
one find a jar of Sodium Nitrite?
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| Subject: | Re: What welding rod did you use for 4130? |
There is also this advert for a product called chemsharp but it is just sodium
nitrite in an expensive bottle:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drgaJVKxJxw
Joe
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I have not flown since 1985, and my old log book was partially damaged in
flood. The entries are still legible, and I am assuming that I should just
start a new one. Anyone have any bright ideas?
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
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| Subject: | Re: Turnbuckles for sale |
Hi, Mike
I don't know if you received my attempt to email you direct, but I would like to
buy 25 of the turnbuckles you offered.
Contact me at
541-840-9484
or glenf@ccountry.com
Thanks
Glen
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If it's usable, no need to start a new one. It's ONLY for formality anyway. Be
sure and have an accurate hours flown entry on your physical, as you can use
that to reestablish time in the event of a lost logbook.
When I got my piet, I found my little logbook from where I soloed back in high
school. My tailwheel hours and endorsement were the first entries since the early
80's! However, it's just fine to keep my piet hours which are primarily
logged for insurance.
I haven't kept a log of my commercial hours since I flew for American Eagle for
a few months. I only kept that to have a nice professional looking logbook when
I interviewed for major airlines. The records the company keeps makes everything
legal and I can't even imagine ever having to interview for a flying job
again. If this one doesn't work out, I'll find something else to do!
All of my military hours are in yet different logbooks.
You only have to have proof of flying for currency, insurance, requirements for
tickets, records of endorsements, etc. Other than wording of endorsements, there's
really no guidance from the FAA. I've used the whole stack of logbooks
even recently to get my CFI. The inspectors don't seem to care that some hours
are in this log, others are in that log, just as long as it's fairly obvious
they're MY records. Honestly, it's still quite a gentleman's system. Probably
one of the last...
Personally, I'd keep using the damaged one if possible, kind of neat to still have
that. I'm the sentimental sort.
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Keep the old one. Even damaged, it would still show some continuity.
Allied Van Lines lost my first logbook (I had already started the second one
and managed to keep it). Life would be simpler if I still had it.
You'll need a BFR from a Certified Flight Instructor and a medical if you
are going to fly as a Private Pilot and carry passengers. If you will be
flying as a Sport Pilot, you'll still need a BFR before carrying passengers
(I think - I've never dealt with Light Sport pilots as a CFI), but it can be
administered by a Light Sport Instructor, or by a CFI.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Boothe
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 11:34 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Log Book
I have not flown since 1985, and my old log book was partially damaged in
flood. The entries are still legible, and I am assuming that I should just
start a new one. Anyone have any bright ideas?
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
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Forgot to attach the picture.
Thanks, Jack & Tools. I'm leaning toward the sentimental comment that Tools
made..Duct tape may be the best fix. The binding took the worst of the
damage. If no one pops up with a better idea, then it'll be duct tape.
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
Phillips
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 9:03 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Log Book
Keep the old one. Even damaged, it would still show some continuity.
Allied Van Lines lost my first logbook (I had already started the second one
and managed to keep it). Life would be simpler if I still had it.
You'll need a BFR from a Certified Flight Instructor and a medical if you
are going to fly as a Private Pilot and carry passengers. If you will be
flying as a Sport Pilot, you'll still need a BFR before carrying passengers
(I think - I've never dealt with Light Sport pilots as a CFI), but it can be
administered by a Light Sport Instructor, or by a CFI.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Boothe
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 11:34 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Log Book
I have not flown since 1985, and my old log book was partially damaged in
flood. The entries are still legible, and I am assuming that I should just
start a new one. Anyone have any bright ideas?
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
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Gary, duct tape would probably work okay. Better would be to drop by your
local public library. Every library of any size will have tape that is
used to rebind damaged books. It is designed for exactly this sort of
purpose. Cheers, Ken
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On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 10:16 AM, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
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> *From:* owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Jack Phillips
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 21, 2012 9:03 AM
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> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Gary
> Boothe
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 21, 2012 11:34 AM
> *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com
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I would start a new Logbook. this one will only become more fragile with time.
I would put copies of the last two pages in the front of the new Logbook.
As far as the binding. If you are not going to be using it. I would leave it alone.
Tape can lead to other problems.
On this old logbook first make sure that there is no mold or mildew. If there is,
the best thing you can do is to take it out in Bright sunlight and make sure
that all mold and mildew is exposed for several hours. It can take days to get
all the pages. Then Put it in a sealed container with some original Lysol anti-bacterial
liquid in the bottom. Killing the mold/mildew is essential. Then
store it in a dry place.
Everyone might consider scanning/copying their Logbooks and keeping them in hard
copy and/or digits. Keep them separate from the originals, IE in hanger and
at home. If you have a fire you don't want them all burned up. Then you can
scan your new pages as they fill up. (You might consider doing this with any
important photos as well.)
I was a Museum Curator before 9-11 changed my life with multiple deployments and
I have had multiple experiences with recovery from fires, floods and tornadoes.
(Most fire recovery has more to do with water damage than fire damage.)
Blue Skies,
Steve D
----- Original Message -----
From: Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net>
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Log Book
> Forgot to attach the picture.
>
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> Thanks, Jack & Tools. I'm leaning toward the sentimental comment
> that Tools
> made..Duct tape may be the best fix. The binding took the worst of the
> damage. If no one pops up with a better idea, then it'll be duct tape.
>
>
>
> Gary Boothe
>
> NX308MB
>
>
>
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
> Phillips
> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 9:03 AM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Log Book
>
>
>
> Keep the old one. Even damaged, it would still show some continuity.
> Allied Van Lines lost my first logbook (I had already started the
> second one
> and managed to keep it). Life would be simpler if I still had it.
>
>
>
> You'll need a BFR from a Certified Flight Instructor and a medical
> if you
> are going to fly as a Private Pilot and carry passengers. If you
> will be
> flying as a Sport Pilot, you'll still need a BFR before carrying
> passengers(I think - I've never dealt with Light Sport pilots as a
> CFI), but it can be
> administered by a Light Sport Instructor, or by a CFI.
>
>
>
> Jack Phillips
>
> NX899JP
>
> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> Gary Boothe
> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 11:34 AM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Log Book
>
> I have not flown since 1985, and my old log book was partially
> damaged in
> flood. The entries are still legible, and I am assuming that I
> should just
> start a new one. Anyone have any bright ideas?
>
>
>
> Gary Boothe
>
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Yeah, Gary. I have started new log books several times. Just keep the
old log book and transfer the total hours from the old one to the first
page of the new one. I'm going to start a new log book with my
biannual review when I get far enough along to get one. Don't want to
get the review too far in advance -- I might forget how all over again.
One never forgets how. Just get a bit of practice in another airplane
before you fly the Piet for the first time. Chuck PS The corvair is
just about ready for its first run. C
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From: Gary Boothe
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 11:33 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Log Book
I have not flown since 1985, and my old log book was partially damaged
in flood. The entries are still legible, and I am assuming that I should
just start a new one. Anyone have any bright ideas?
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
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| Subject: | Re: Horn mistake.... |
Mario, it's not too difficult to patch and repaint. I had to take part of
the cover off the fin of a PA-20 I had just recovered. It came out OK.
Chuck
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From: "giacummo" <mario.giacummo@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 6:59 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Horn mistake....
> <mario.giacummo@gmail.com>
>
> Greg, Jack, thank you.. it's enough, let's replace it and learn how to
> make a patch over the cover.. uffff....
>
> Regards.
>
> --------
> Mario Giacummo
> http://vgmk1.blogspot.com
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> Read this topic online here:
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| Subject: | Re: Turnbuckles for sale |
Papa Mike, I will take 22 of the turnbuckles. Let me know what your
pay-pall address is and I will send the money
859-468-0047
Thank You
Scott
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I have to figure out a way to tie down the engine!!! Guess I'll have to
wait until I have landing gear and engine mount on the Piet and then tie
the fuselage to a lamp post. C
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----- Original Message -----
From: gboothe5@comcast.net
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 1:14 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Log Book
Chuck,
When you start that Corvair, be sure you have yourself tied down! ;-)
Gary
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From: "C N Campbell" <cncampbell@windstream.net>
Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 13:00:55 -0400
To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
ReplyTo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Log Book
Yeah, Gary. I have started new = log books several times.
Just keep the old log book and transfer the total = hours from
the old one to the first page of the new one. I'm going = to
start a new log book with my biannual review when I get far enough along
= to get one. Don't want to get the review too far in advance --
I might = forget how all over again. One never forgets how.
Just get a bit of = practice in another airplane before you fly
the Piet for the first time. = Chuck PS The corvair is just
about ready for its first run. = C
----- Original Message -----
From: Gary Boothe
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com=
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 = 11:33 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Log = Book
I have not flown since 1985, and my old log book = was
partially damaged in flood. The entries are still legible, and I am =
assuming that I should just start a new one. Anyone have any
bright ideas?
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| Subject: | Re: Horn mistake.... |
Thenk you Kevin, any help is welcome!!
kevinpurtee wrote:
> Mario - Cutting & patching is a necessary skill and you may as well learn it
now. It's really pretty simple.
>
> Ask me how I know.
>
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Assuming that it is near impossible to find a CFI who can/will climb into the front
cockpit, how are others getting thru the requirement of 5 hrs dual in make
and model for liability insurance?
Gary from Cool
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| Subject: | Engine Assembly Update |
Crew, I have been working on engine assembly and thought I might post some
update pictures. I have a bunch on the camera still...I'll post some of tho
se at a later date.
The first two show the case halves before and after bead blasting. The case
on the right in both pictures are how I got them back from zyglo inspectio
n, the case of the left is after I blasted it.
Next was the flushing. By blocking off various ports by hand, I got some gr
eat fountain effects out of the different oil passages!
Finally, prepping for paint.
As of right now I have the cases back together.- I will be assembling and
installing the accessory case either today or tomorrow.
Next up will be cylinders.
Michael Perez
=0APietenpol HINT Videos
=0AKaretaker Aero
=0Awww.karetakeraero.com
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| Subject: | Re: Turnbuckles for sale |
At this point, I am pretty sure that I am sold out on the turnbuckles. Anyone that
PM'd (or otherwise) prior to this post should be getting turnbuckles. Please
be patient with me as I sort thru the posts and emails to respond in the order
of date/time rec'd. Mike
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Depends on the insurance. I insured mine with Falcon (EAA Insurance). They
insured it for the first flight and all subsequent flights with no
requirements for dual instruction. If you have had at least 3 inspections
from an EAA Technical Counselor (every chapter should have at least one),
they will insure itfor the first flights. Most other companies won't insure
you until you have some minimum time (I think it's usually 10 hours) on the
airplane.
Note that I was a current pilot who had recently (within 2 years) owned a
tailwheel airplane. Still, I borrowed a friend's J-3 Cub and got myself
tailwheel current again before attempting to fly my Pietenpol.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
gboothe5@comcast.net
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 2:19 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Duel time
Assuming that it is near impossible to find a CFI who can/will climb into
the front cockpit, how are others getting thru the requirement of 5 hrs dual
in make and model for liability insurance?
Gary from Cool
Sent on the SprintR Now Network from my BlackBerryR
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Check with your local EAA chapter, there should be someone who loves these classic
planes and will not only be willing, but eager to fly in your plane.
Steve D
----- Original Message -----
From: gboothe5@comcast.net
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Duel time
>
> Assuming that it is near impossible to find a CFI who can/will
> climb into the front cockpit, how are others getting thru the
> requirement of 5 hrs dual in make and model for liability insurance?
>
> Gary from Cool
> Sent on the Sprint Now Network from my BlackBerry
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| Subject: | Engine Assembly Update |
Nice pictures, Michael. Note for all you Corvair builders out there, just
how large the front main bearing is on this low horsepower engine. Now you
understand why the 5th bearing is needed on a Corvair (and even with the 5th
bearing, it still doesn't have as much bearing area as this aircraft engine
has).
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael
Perez
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 2:22 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Engine Assembly Update
Crew, I have been working on engine assembly and thought I might post some
update pictures. I have a bunch on the camera still...I'll post some of
those at a later date.
The first two show the case halves before and after bead blasting. The case
on the right in both pictures are how I got them back from zyglo inspection,
the case of the left is after I blasted it.
Next was the flushing. By blocking off various ports by hand, I got some
great fountain effects out of the different oil passages!
Finally, prepping for paint.
As of right now I have the cases back together. I will be assembling and
installing the accessory case either today or tomorrow.
Next up will be cylinders.
Michael Perez
Pietenpol HINT Videos
Karetaker Aero
www.karetakeraero.com
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When I added 502R last year I was not required to have any time in type.
I also insure through Falcon and it probably helped that I already had a
Cub on their books.
-john-
John Hofmann
Vice-President, Information Technology
The Rees Group, Inc.
2424 American Lane
Madison, WI 53704
Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
Fax: 608.443.2474
Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com
On Jun 21, 2012, at 1:47 PM, Jack Phillips wrote:
<pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
>
> Depends on the insurance. I insured mine with Falcon (EAA Insurance).
They
> insured it for the first flight and all subsequent flights with no
> requirements for dual instruction. If you have had at least 3
inspections
> from an EAA Technical Counselor (every chapter should have at least
one),
> they will insure itfor the first flights. Most other companies won't
insure
> you until you have some minimum time (I think it's usually 10 hours)
on the
> airplane.
>
> Note that I was a current pilot who had recently (within 2 years)
owned a
> tailwheel airplane. Still, I borrowed a friend's J-3 Cub and got
myself
> tailwheel current again before attempting to fly my Pietenpol.
>
> Jack Phillips
> NX899JP
> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> gboothe5@comcast.net
> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 2:19 PM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Duel time
>
>
> Assuming that it is near impossible to find a CFI who can/will climb
into
> the front cockpit, how are others getting thru the requirement of 5
hrs dual
> in make and model for liability insurance?
>
> Gary from Cool
> Sent on the SprintR Now Network from my BlackBerryR
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Engine Assembly Update |
Thank you Jack.- That front bearing surface is about 3.5" long with quite
the large oil hole in it and about 1.5" in dia.
-
I am glad to be building an aircraft engine...it is a great learning experi
ence building my own.
Michael Perez
Pietenpol HINT Videos
Karetaker Aero
www.karetakeraero.com
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| Subject: | Mike Perez's Engine Assembly Update |
They don't look anything like they did on that 17F day we went and picked u
p
your engines Mike on February 11th, 2012 ! What a difference four months
can make!
Things are looking great-you've made a lot of progress and there's nothing
like hearing the sound of that first engine run when you've rebuilt the eng
ine
yourself.
The largest engine I ever worked on prior to the A-65 major overhaul I did
was
my 14hp Briggs & Stratton riding mower engine in the early 1990's.
Good engines these old A-65's!
Mike C.
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| Subject: | from blizzard to 95F and a clean engine case in June |
Took this photo as Mike and I were driving back to his house with his newly
acquired greasy old engines. Great work Mike! I can smell the avgas ex
haust fumes already!
Hard to imagine that was only 16 weeks ago!
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Hi Gary - I'm assuming you're not angry enough with anyone to walk twenty paces,
turn and fire.
Regardless, I had a similar hour/dual requirement before Falcon would insure me.
I self-insured until I had 25 hours and then reapplied. The premium went way
down and continues to drop each year as we build time.
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NX899KP
Austin/San Marcos, TX
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Kevin - I'm not angry. I'm nearing the culmination of a life-time dream and
I'm sure this is minor hurdle...not sure what you mean about
"self-insuring", though. In my case, the owners of the hangars require
policy info.
Jack - they did not ask if I had any inspections! I did present the problem
of getting a CFI into the front cockpit, and asked if dual time in a Cub or
Champ would be accepted....no answer back. I'm talking with Falcon, too.
John - you may be the finest flyer I have ever seen...if only the war had
lasted a little longer....
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of kevinpurtee
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 1:10 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Duel time
--> <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
Hi Gary - I'm assuming you're not angry enough with anyone to walk twenty
paces, turn and fire.
Regardless, I had a similar hour/dual requirement before Falcon would insure
me. I self-insured until I had 25 hours and then reapplied. The premium
went way down and continues to drop each year as we build time.
--------
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NX899KP
Austin/San Marcos, TX
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Good thoughts, Steve. I bought a new one today! Someone else mentioned book
binding tape, and I see that 3M makes that stuff...now just to find it.
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dortch,
Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 9:48 AM
Subject: Re: RE: Pietenpol-List: Log Book
--> <steven.d.dortch@us.army.mil>
I would start a new Logbook. this one will only become more fragile with
time. I would put copies of the last two pages in the front of the new
Logbook.
As far as the binding. If you are not going to be using it. I would leave
it alone. Tape can lead to other problems.
On this old logbook first make sure that there is no mold or mildew. If
there is, the best thing you can do is to take it out in Bright sunlight and
make sure that all mold and mildew is exposed for several hours. It can take
days to get all the pages. Then Put it in a sealed container with some
original Lysol anti-bacterial liquid in the bottom. Killing the mold/mildew
is essential. Then store it in a dry place.
Everyone might consider scanning/copying their Logbooks and keeping them in
hard copy and/or digits. Keep them separate from the originals, IE in hanger
and at home. If you have a fire you don't want them all burned up. Then
you can scan your new pages as they fill up. (You might consider doing this
with any important photos as well.)
I was a Museum Curator before 9-11 changed my life with multiple deployments
and I have had multiple experiences with recovery from fires, floods and
tornadoes. (Most fire recovery has more to do with water damage than fire
damage.)
Blue Skies,
Steve D
----- Original Message -----
From: Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net>
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Log Book
> Forgot to attach the picture.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks, Jack & Tools. I'm leaning toward the sentimental comment that
> Tools made..Duct tape may be the best fix. The binding took the worst
> of the damage. If no one pops up with a better idea, then it'll be
> duct tape.
>
>
>
> Gary Boothe
>
> NX308MB
>
>
>
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
> Phillips
> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 9:03 AM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Log Book
>
>
>
> Keep the old one. Even damaged, it would still show some continuity.
> Allied Van Lines lost my first logbook (I had already started the
> second one and managed to keep it). Life would be simpler if I still
> had it.
>
>
>
> You'll need a BFR from a Certified Flight Instructor and a medical if
> you are going to fly as a Private Pilot and carry passengers. If you
> will be flying as a Sport Pilot, you'll still need a BFR before
> carrying passengers(I think - I've never dealt with Light Sport pilots
> as a CFI), but it can be administered by a Light Sport Instructor, or
> by a CFI.
>
>
>
> Jack Phillips
>
> NX899JP
>
> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> Gary Boothe
> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 11:34 AM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Log Book
>
> I have not flown since 1985, and my old log book was partially
> damaged in
> flood. The entries are still legible, and I am assuming that I
> should just
> start a new one. Anyone have any bright ideas?
>
>
>
> Gary Boothe
>
> NX308MB
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>
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| Subject: | Engine Assembly Update |
All I can say is that he appears to be 2 cylinders short.
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
Phillips
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 11:51 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Engine Assembly Update
Nice pictures, Michael. Note for all you Corvair builders out there, just
how large the front main bearing is on this low horsepower engine. Now you
understand why the 5th bearing is needed on a Corvair (and even with the 5th
bearing, it still doesn't have as much bearing area as this aircraft engine
has).
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael
Perez
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 2:22 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Engine Assembly Update
Crew, I have been working on engine assembly and thought I might post some
update pictures. I have a bunch on the camera still...I'll post some of
those at a later date.
The first two show the case halves before and after bead blasting. The case
on the right in both pictures are how I got them back from zyglo inspection,
the case of the left is after I blasted it.
Next was the flushing. By blocking off various ports by hand, I got some
great fountain effects out of the different oil passages!
Finally, prepping for paint.
As of right now I have the cases back together. I will be assembling and
installing the accessory case either today or tomorrow.
Next up will be cylinders.
Michael Perez
Pietenpol HINT Videos
Karetaker Aero
www.karetakeraero.com
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HI kevin, with your prop set at 7.5 degrees what kind of fuel burn are you
getting? With mine set at 8.5 I was getting 6 gal/hr. 2500 rpm and about 80 mph.
Frank metcalf is getting 4.5 galper hr with a 66-34 wood prop. He cruises at 7o
mph. jUST ASKING. Think more about Triple Tree Aerodrome just after Labor Day.
It looks like we will have abt 10 PIETS THERE along with 400 others. Gardiner
----- Original Message ----
From: kevinpurtee <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
Sent: Thu, June 21, 2012 4:11:59 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Duel time
Hi Gary - I'm assuming you're not angry enough with anyone to walk twenty paces,
turn and fire.
Regardless, I had a similar hour/dual requirement before Falcon would insure
me. I self-insured until I had 25 hours and then reapplied. The premium went
way down and continues to drop each year as we build time.
--------
Kevin "Axel" Purtee
NX899KP
Austin/San Marcos, TX
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Ha! Thanks, Kevin! Had to go back and re-read my post...note the change of
the subject line...
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of kevinpurtee
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 1:10 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Duel time
--> <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
Hi Gary - I'm assuming you're not angry enough with anyone to walk twenty
paces, turn and fire.
Regardless, I had a similar hour/dual requirement before Falcon would insure
me. I self-insured until I had 25 hours and then reapplied. The premium
went way down and continues to drop each year as we build time.
--------
Kevin "Axel" Purtee
NX899KP
Austin/San Marcos, TX
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| Subject: | Re: Turnbuckles for sale |
I will buy 6 of them if still available
Dave in Fla.
--- On Thu, 6/21/12, Ray Krause <Raykrause@frontiernet.net> wrote:
From: Ray Krause <Raykrause@frontiernet.net>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Turnbuckles for sale
et>
Papa Mike,
I will take 20 of them, if they are still available.- If OK with you, I w
ill
send a check whenever you say to do so.
Thanks a Million for the offer!
Ray Krause
843 Jay Street
Colusa, Ca 95932
530-458-7097 (home)
530-736-2627 (cell)
Building Sky Scout
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From: "899PM" <rockriverrifle@hotmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 5:36 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Turnbuckles for sale
>
>
> I have over (100) AN140-16S turnbuckles for sale. They are used and have
> (2) cable eyes. I used motorcycle chain sideplates/links to create a
> "fork" and- used- these throughout my Air Camper. $8ea plus $5 shippi
ng
> via USPS Priority small flat rate box. Please PM me with orders. Check, M
O
> or PayPal all work fine.
>
> Thanx.......Mike
>
> --------
> PAPA MIKE
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
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le, List Admin.
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Gary, to "self Insure:" really means to fly without insurance. If you wreck your
plane you fix it and suffer the loss. If you hit someone else's stuff then you
are personally liable. (IE hit a Learjet or crash into a school house full
of kids, then they sue you. Not the insurance company.)
You might ask exactly what the hangerowners want. IE protection in case you burn
the hanger down? Then you might see if there is a renters insurance that would
cover you for much less.
The only reason I insure my Vtail is so that I am covered by liability to fly
kids for Young Eagles. I go ahead and get hull insurance because it only costs
$200 more per year. ($800 for liability plus $200 for hull) my old Bonanza is
worth about $20-25,000 IF I can find a buyer. Old airplane values crashed when
the market did and have not recovered. It was worth about $60,000 before the
crash.
If I am not taking part in the Young Eagles Program, I "Self Insure". I figure
if I slap a wing to the ground lightly, I will learn sheet metal work. If I roll
it into a ball, I will either be in the hospital and not worried about the
plane or I will walk away and sell the ball for scrap. I will then have to find
a cheap little plane to fly. I might even have to build a plane.
Blue Skies,
Steve D
1948 straight 35 Bonanza, (Forked-tail Doctor Killer!)
----- Original Message -----
From: Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net>
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Duel time
>
> Kevin - I'm not angry. I'm nearing the culmination of a life-time dream and
> I'm sure this is minor hurdle...not sure what you mean about
> "self-insuring", though. In my case, the owners of the hangars require
> policy info.
>
> Jack - they did not ask if I had any inspections! I did present the problem
> of getting a CFI into the front cockpit, and asked if dual time in a Cub or
> Champ would be accepted....no answer back. I'm talking with Falcon, too.
>
> John - you may be the finest flyer I have ever seen...if only the war had
> lasted a little longer....
>
> Gary Boothe
> NX308MB
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of kevinpurtee
> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 1:10 PM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Duel time
>
> --> <
>
> Hi Gary - I'm assuming you're not angry enough with anyone to walk twenty
> paces, turn and fire.
>
> Regardless, I had a similar hour/dual requirement before Falcon would insure
> me. I self-insured until I had 25 hours and then reapplied. The premium
> went way down and continues to drop each year as we build time.
>
> --------
> Kevin "Axel" Purtee
> NX899KP
> Austin/San Marcos, TX
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376246#376246
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| Subject: | pinstriping tape |
Does anybody have experience with pinstriping paint on a fabric covered
airplane?
Sprayed today and got a little seepage next to my trim color and though I
cleaned most of it up, I'm considering a pinstripe to make it sharper. I'm
assuming a good quality automotive tape would work fine right?
Douwe
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I insured my Piet for its first flight with EAA and all they required was that
I completed a Flight Advisor review. I was current in a Baby Ace at the time.
Have hou talked with them on the phone or just the online app?
Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 21, 2012, at 2:19 PM, gboothe5@comcast.net wrote:
>
> Assuming that it is near impossible to find a CFI who can/will climb into the
front cockpit, how are others getting thru the requirement of 5 hrs dual in make
and model for liability insurance?
>
> Gary from Cool
> Sent on the Sprint Now Network from my BlackBerry
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| Subject: | Re: Engine Assembly Update |
Maybe the missing cylinders are just hidden by the hat...
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BC
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Both, Ben. I'll see what they come up with tomorrow, and call again if necessary.
I have the impression that there's room for negotiation.
Gary
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------Original Message------
From: Ben Charvet
Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
ReplyTo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Duel time
Sent: Jun 21, 2012 6:19 PM
I insured my Piet for its first flight with EAA and all they required was that
I completed a Flight Advisor review. I was current in a Baby Ace at the time.
Have hou talked with them on the phone or just the online app?
Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 21, 2012, at 2:19 PM, gboothe5@comcast.net wrote:
>
> Assuming that it is near impossible to find a CFI who can/will climb into the
front cockpit, how are others getting thru the requirement of 5 hrs dual in make
and model for liability insurance?
>
> Gary from Cool
> Sent on the Sprint Now Network from my BlackBerry
>
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Sent on the Sprint Now Network from my BlackBerry
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| Subject: | WACO Fly-In Ohio(Free food) |
Is anyone going to the waco fly in- at Wynkoop Airport in Mount Vernon Oh
io this weekend?- It is open to other than WACO traffic this year for the
1st time in 2 years.- I flew over there this evening and talked with Bil
l Knight (Owns the Last Original, and a waco).- Frank Pavliga flew his WA
CO 9 (or 10 I don't know wacos that well) in for the weekend.- I am only
a 10 min. flight from Wynkoop(on a 3000 ft grass strip), so I am voulenteer
ing to host a Piet cookout at my house for any one who wants to fly-in on s
aturday afternoon.-(Pietenpol, and other cool tailwheelers as well).- I
will probably fly over again tommorow and saturday weather permitting.-
Let me know if anyone is interested.- I will post a time if I get some re
sponses, otherwise, cook your own darn food....ha ha ha
-
Shad-
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| Subject: | Re: Horn mistake.... |
Don't forget farther movement. Banging rudder into elevators is not a good
thing. :-)
Even with proper horn I have bar stops to keep
rudder one inch away from elevators.
Clif
>
> I agree with Greg, Mario. If you put a smaller horn on the rudder than it
> was designed for, two things will happen: Rudder pedal forces will go up,
> and rudder sensitivity will increase. I can't predict how this will
> affect
> the handling of the airplane, but I can say that if built as designed, the
> rudder on this airplane feels just about perfect - >
Jack Phillips
> NX899JP
> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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| Subject: | Re: pinstriping tape |
Douwe
I used pin striping Vinyl to 'edge' a trim colour I painted on my aircraft.
It was 8mm wide (3/8") and worked very well as the vinyl will follow bends if laid
down gently.
Press it home firmly with a soft cloth or rag once in position and there it stays.
Having had a $8000 paint job on an earlier 'plastic' Airplane I had built I used
a roller and polyurethane paint during this refurbishment of this one.
The pin striping gave a quality finish.
Here is an example of a supplier in UK. http://www.the4all.com/hometape.html
Regards
Gerry
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