Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Sat 06/23/12


Total Messages Posted: 24



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     1. 03:50 AM - names tags at Brodhead (Douwe Blumberg)
     2. 03:56 AM - 1929,1932,1934... (purist alert!!) (Douwe Blumberg)
     3. 03:58 AM - Re: 1929,1932,1934... (purist alert!!) (Jack Phillips)
     4. 04:11 AM - Re: 1929,1932,1934... (purist alert!!) (Greg Cardinal)
     5. 04:12 AM - Re: 1929,1932,1934... (purist alert!!) (Jack@textors.com)
     6. 07:03 AM - Re: names tags at Brodhead (Jack@textors.com)
     7. 07:27 AM - Camera Mounts (John Francis)
     8. 08:29 AM - Re: names tags at Brodhead (Bill Church)
     9. 08:41 AM - Re: Camera Mounts (Amsafetyc)
    10. 08:56 AM - Re: 1929,1932,1934... (purist alert!!) (Amsafetyc)
    11. 10:25 AM - Re: 1929,1932,1934... (purist alert!!) (Ray Krause)
    12. 10:29 AM - Re: 1929,1932,1934... (purist alert!!) (Gene Rambo)
    13. 10:46 AM - Re: 1929,1932,1934... (purist alert!!) (Jerry Dotson)
    14. 10:55 AM - Re: 1929,almost as good Gene (Amsafetyc)
    15. 11:01 AM - Re: Re: 1929,1932,1934... (purist alert!!) (Amsafetyc)
    16. 12:08 PM - Re: 1929,1932,1934... (purist alert!!) (BYD)
    17. 12:20 PM - Re: Re: 1929,1932,1934... (purist alert!!) (Amsafetyc)
    18. 01:56 PM - Re: 1929,1932,1934... (purist alert!!) (K5YAC)
    19. 05:03 PM - Re: Re: 1929,1932,1934... (purist alert!!) (Gary Boothe)
    20. 05:32 PM - Re: Re: 1929,1932,1934... (purist alert!!) (Ray Krause)
    21. 06:15 PM - Re: Re: 1929,1932,1934... (purist alert!!) (Jack Phillips)
    22. 06:23 PM - Re: names tags at Brodhead (kevinpurtee)
    23. 07:44 PM - NX7229R Flies again! (Andrew Eldredge)
    24. 11:29 PM - Re: 1929,1932,1934... (purist alert!!) (Bill Church)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:50:52 AM PST US
    From: "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg@earthlink.net>
    Subject: names tags at Brodhead
    Everybody, please try to wear a name tag at Brodhead so we can put faces to names. Douwe Do not archive


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    Time: 03:56:15 AM PST US
    From: "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg@earthlink.net>
    Subject: 1929,1932,1934... (purist alert!!)
    Okay, this might lead to another dead horse beating, especially from the purists out there, but here goes. On the fin, I'd like to paint something like "Pietenpol Air Camper" and a date either ahead of it ( 19?? Pietenpol Air Camper) or after it with a saying like "Pietenpol Air Camper since 19??" to help people know what it is. My question is, and I understand this might be a matter of opinion. what year should I use?? First true "Air Camper" 626 seems to have flown in 1929, plans were drawn in 32 I believe? Revised in 34?? I kind of lean towards 1929 myself. Douwe Do not archive


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    Time: 03:58:49 AM PST US
    From: "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: 1929,1932,1934... (purist alert!!)
    1929 Jack Phillips NX899JP Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Douwe Blumberg Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2012 7:00 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: 1929,1932,1934... (purist alert!!) Okay, this might lead to another dead horse beating, especially from the purists out there, but here goes. On the fin, I'd like to paint something like "Pietenpol Air Camper" and a date either ahead of it ( 19?? Pietenpol Air Camper) or after it with a saying like "Pietenpol Air Camper since 19??" to help people know what it is. My question is, and I understand this might be a matter of opinion. what year should I use?? First true "Air Camper" 626 seems to have flown in 1929, plans were drawn in 32 I believe? Revised in 34?? I kind of lean towards 1929 myself. Douwe Do not archive


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    Time: 04:11:51 AM PST US
    From: "Greg Cardinal" <gcardinal@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: 1929,1932,1934... (purist alert!!)
    1929 is recognized as the first year an Air Camper flew. Anything after that is just a revision of the original. Greg Cardinal ----- Original Message ----- From: Douwe Blumberg To: pietenpolgroup Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2012 6:00 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: 1929,1932,1934... (purist alert!!) Okay, this might lead to another dead horse beating, especially from the purists out there, but here goes. On the fin, I'd like to paint something like "Pietenpol Air Camper" and a date either ahead of it ( 19?? Pietenpol Air Camper) or after it with a saying like "Pietenpol Air Camper since 19??" to help people know what it is. My question is, and I understand this might be a matter of opinion. what year should I use?? First true "Air Camper" 626 seems to have flown in 1929, plans were drawn in 32 I believe? Revised in 34?? I kind of lean towards 1929 myself. Douwe Do not archive


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    Time: 04:12:21 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: 1929,1932,1934... (purist alert!!)
    From: "Jack@textors.com" <jack@textors.com>
    Douwe, N1929T my reserved number... Jack Textor Sent from my iPad On Jun 23, 2012, at 6:00 AM, "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg@earthlink.net> w rote: > Okay, this might lead to another dead horse beating, especially from the p urists out there, but here goes > > On the fin, I=99d like to paint something like =9CPietenpol Ai r Camper=9D and a date either ahead of it ( 19?? Pietenpol Air Camper) or after it with a saying like =9CPietenpol Air Camper since 19?? =9D to help people know what it is. > > My question is, and I understand this might be a matter of opinion what year should I use?? > > First true =9CAir Camper=9D 626 seems to have flown in 1929, p lans were drawn in 32 I believe? Revised in 34?? > > I kind of lean towards 1929 myself. > > Douwe > > Do not archive > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= >


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    Time: 07:03:49 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: names tags at Brodhead
    From: "Jack@textors.com" <jack@textors.com>
    Good thought Douwe. Required for the Brat Fest at the Textor Motorhome, Fri day at 11:30. Everyone please join us. Just bring your stories, smiles, ch air and your beverage. Looking forward to it! Jack Textor Sent from my iPad On Jun 23, 2012, at 5:54 AM, "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg@earthlink.net> w rote: > Everybody, please try to wear a name tag at Brodhead so we can put faces t o names. > > Douwe > > Do not archive > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= >


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    Time: 07:27:17 AM PST US
    Subject: Camera Mounts
    From: "John Francis" <Mrkringles@msn.com>
    As I am building I am wondering if anyone has built in camera mounts at strategic locations for filming flights. Simple threaded studs could protude from several locations of the aircraft to easily attach a video camera. -------- John Francis Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376425#376425


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    Time: 08:29:23 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: names tags at Brodhead
    From: "Bill Church" <billspiet@sympatico.ca>
    As a reminder - the BPA generously provides nametags. Just check in at the friendly BPA booth upon arrival at the airport, and they'll give you a nametag. While you're there, you might as well renew your subscription to the BPA newsletter. If you're a member of the BPA, you're also eligible for the free raffle prizes. Bill C. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376432#376432


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    Time: 08:41:59 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Camera Mounts
    From: Amsafetyc <amsafetyc@aol.com>
    I too am interested in learning that same thing as it would be much easier to incorporate that into the build than to do it as an add on or modification. John Sent from my iPhone On Jun 23, 2012, at 10:26 AM, "John Francis" <Mrkringles@msn.com> wrote: > > As I am building I am wondering if anyone has built in camera mounts at strategic locations for filming flights. Simple threaded studs could protude from several locations of the aircraft to easily attach a video camera. > > -------- > John Francis > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376425#376425 > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 08:56:14 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: 1929,1932,1934... (purist alert!!)
    From: Amsafetyc <amsafetyc@aol.com>
    Douwe, Although not a purist when I talk about the Piet design and my build I alway s explain it as a 1929 design aircraft by Bernard Pietenpol. Then I tell the story of each one being a hand made custom aircraft. Because if I call it a home built the think of bed sheets and lawn chairs or if I call it an exper imental aircraft they conjure up visions of some Rube Goldberg contraption f lailing and beating itself to destruction. John Do not archive I am not a purist? i'm a designer concentrate on the design! John Sent from my iPhone On Jun 23, 2012, at 7:00 AM, "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg@earthlink.net> w rote: > Okay, this might lead to another dead horse beating, especially from the p urists out there, but here goes > > On the fin, I=99d like to paint something like =9CPietenpol Ai r Camper=9D and a date either ahead of it ( 19?? Pietenpol Air Camper) or after it with a saying like =9CPietenpol Air Camper since 19?? =9D to help people know what it is. > > My question is, and I understand this might be a matter of opinion what year should I use?? > > First true =9CAir Camper=9D 626 seems to have flown in 1929, p lans were drawn in 32 I believe? Revised in 34?? > > I kind of lean towards 1929 myself. > > Douwe > > Do not archive > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= >


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    Time: 10:25:59 AM PST US
    From: "Ray Krause" <Raykrause@frontiernet.net>
    Subject: Re: 1929,1932,1934... (purist alert!!)
    Ok, you horse beaters; when did the first Sky Scout fly? what will I be able to put on its tail? Thanks, Ray Krause, building Sky Scout. Tail, fuselage mostly done, center section, gear and 1/2 wing completed. No covering done. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jack@textors.com To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2012 4:12 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 1929,1932,1934... (purist alert!!) Douwe, N1929T my reserved number... Jack Textor Sent from my iPad On Jun 23, 2012, at 6:00 AM, "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg@earthlink.net> wrote: Okay, this might lead to another dead horse beating, especially from the purists out there, but here goes On the fin, I=99d like to paint something like =9CPietenpol Air Camper=9D and a date either ahead of it ( 19?? Pietenpol Air Camper) or after it with a saying like =9CPietenpol Air Camper since 19??=9D to help people know what it is. My question is, and I understand this might be a matter of opinion what year should I use?? First true =9CAir Camper=9D 626 seems to have flown in 1929, plans were drawn in 32 I believe? Revised in 34?? I kind of lean towards 1929 myself. Douwe Do not archive ========= >http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List ========= cs.com ========= matronics.com/contribution =========


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    Time: 10:29:36 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: 1929,1932,1934... (purist alert!!)
    From: Gene Rambo <generambo@msn.com>
    You think painting the name on the tail is going to let anyone know what it i s?? I've got "Travel Air" in big letters on the fin and still get "what is i t, a Stearman?" all the time. Do not archive On Jun 23, 2012, at 7:00 AM, "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg@earthlink.net> w rote: > Okay, this might lead to another dead horse beating, especially from the p urists out there, but here goes > > On the fin, I=99d like to paint something like =9CPietenpol Ai r Camper=9D and a date either ahead of it ( 19?? Pietenpol Air Camper) or after it with a saying like =9CPietenpol Air Camper since 19?? =9D to help people know what it is. > > My question is, and I understand this might be a matter of opinion what year should I use?? > > First true =9CAir Camper=9D 626 seems to have flown in 1929, p lans were drawn in 32 I believe? Revised in 34?? > > I kind of lean towards 1929 myself. > > Douwe > > Do not archive > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= >


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    Time: 10:46:21 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: 1929,1932,1934... (purist alert!!)
    From: "Jerry Dotson" <jdotson@centurylink.net>
    I vote 1929 too.....see pictures. I put it on it twice Gene and I bet I get asked some "What kind of Cessna is that?" do not archive -------- Jerry Dotson 59 Daniel Johnson Rd Baker, FL 32531 First flight June 16,2012 Started building July, 2009 21&quot; wheels Lycoming O-235 C2C Jay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376443#376443 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/a62_151.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/a3_138.jpg


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    Time: 10:55:28 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: 1929,almost as good Gene
    From: Amsafetyc <amsafetyc@aol.com>
    That about as good as the day at LNS airport day with the air show when the t wo guys behind me were wanting to know when the Mariachies were going to fly . Okay,new one on me, I didn't know they flew too. John Do not archive Sent from my iPhone On Jun 23, 2012, at 1:28 PM, Gene Rambo <generambo@msn.com> wrote: > You think painting the name on the tail is going to let anyone know what i t is?? I've got "Travel Air" in big letters on the fin and still get "what i s it, a Stearman?" all the time. > > Do not archive > > On Jun 23, 2012, at 7:00 AM, "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg@earthlink.net > wrote: > >> Okay, this might lead to another dead horse beating, especially from the p urists out there, but here goes >> >> On the fin, I=99d like to paint something like =9CPietenpol A ir Camper=9D and a date either ahead of it ( 19?? Pietenpol Air Camper ) or after it with a saying like =9CPietenpol Air Camper since 19?? =9D to help people know what it is. >> >> My question is, and I understand this might be a matter of opinion what year should I use?? >> >> First true =9CAir Camper=9D 626 seems to have flown in 1929, p lans were drawn in 32 I believe? Revised in 34?? >> >> I kind of lean towards 1929 myself. >> >> Douwe >> >> Do not archive >> >> >> ========================= ========= >> >http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List >> ========================= ========= >> cs.com >> ========================= ========= >> matronics.com/contribution >> ========================= ========= >> > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= >


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    Time: 11:01:20 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: 1929,1932,1934... (purist alert!!)
    From: Amsafetyc <amsafetyc@aol.com>
    I fully expect to reveal an artistic rendition of my air camper color scheme. Which like most others, has been top secret at least up until the great reveal next month. I hope you will join me in that historic event. Private showings may be available following the reveal. John Do not archive Sent from my iPhone On Jun 23, 2012, at 1:45 PM, "Jerry Dotson" <jdotson@centurylink.net> wrote: > > I vote 1929 too.....see pictures. > > I put it on it twice Gene and I bet I get asked some "What kind of Cessna is that?" > > > do not archive > > -------- > Jerry Dotson > 59 Daniel Johnson Rd > Baker, FL 32531 > > First flight June 16,2012 > Started building July, 2009 > 21&quot; wheels > Lycoming O-235 C2C > Jay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44 > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376443#376443 > > > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/a62_151.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/a3_138.jpg > > > > > > >


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    Time: 12:08:23 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: 1929,1932,1934... (purist alert!!)
    From: "BYD" <billsayre@ymail.com>
    >From the archives... http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=87677 Sent from my BatPhone -------- Please check with Larry &quot;TC&quot; Williams before archiving, otherwise, DO NOT ARCHIVE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376452#376452


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    Time: 12:20:02 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: 1929,1932,1934... (purist alert!!)
    From: Amsafetyc <amsafetyc@aol.com>
    Why dig up an old dead horse when we can get a new one to beat? John Do not archive , enough dead horses already there! Sent from my iPhone On Jun 23, 2012, at 3:08 PM, "BYD" <billsayre@ymail.com> wrote: > >> From the archives... > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=87677 > > Sent from my BatPhone > > -------- > Please check with Larry &quot;TC&quot; Williams before archiving, otherwise, > DO NOT ARCHIVE > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376452#376452 > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 01:56:09 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: 1929,1932,1934... (purist alert!!)
    From: "K5YAC" <hangar10@cox.net>
    I am NX29BP... so I vote for 1929 as well. Wiki says 1928... wonder where they got that info? Ray, the first sky scout (10718) was built in 1931 if we are to believe the data plate and it belonged to Orrin Hoopman. Wiki says 1933... wrong again. -------- Mark Chouinard Wings, Center Section and Empannage and Fuse framed up - Working on Landing Gear Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376458#376458


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    Time: 05:03:13 PM PST US
    From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: 1929,1932,1934... (purist alert!!)
    I say, "Look on your plans." If they say 1937, as mine do, then I'm building a 1937 Pietenpol. How could it be anything different? If yours says 1927, then that's what you're building... Gary from Cool Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376458#376458


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    Time: 05:32:17 PM PST US
    From: "Ray Krause" <Raykrause@frontiernet.net>
    Subject: Re: 1929,1932,1934... (purist alert!!)
    Thanks, Mark. I know the story behind the Sky Scout, so I knew it was later than the AirCamper. Guess I will have a fairly unique plane! All to plans, so far. Ray ----- Original Message ----- From: "K5YAC" <hangar10@cox.net> Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2012 1:55 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: 1929,1932,1934... (purist alert!!) > > I am NX29BP... so I vote for 1929 as well. Wiki says 1928... wonder where > they got that info? > > Ray, the first sky scout (10718) was built in 1931 if we are to believe > the data plate and it belonged to Orrin Hoopman. Wiki says 1933... wrong > again. > > -------- > Mark Chouinard > Wings, Center Section and Empannage and Fuse framed up - Working on > Landing Gear > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376458#376458 > > >


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    Time: 06:15:28 PM PST US
    From: "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: 1929,1932,1934... (purist alert!!)
    I thought mine said 1934. And I didn't know the Corvair existed in 1937. The A65 Continental was designed in 1936 and was in production by 1938, but I don't think the Corvair came into being until 1959. Jack Phillips NX899JP Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Boothe Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2012 8:02 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: 1929,1932,1934... (purist alert!!) --> <gboothe5@comcast.net> I say, "Look on your plans." If they say 1937, as mine do, then I'm building a 1937 Pietenpol. How could it be anything different? If yours says 1927, then that's what you're building... Gary from Cool Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376458#376458


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    Time: 06:23:02 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: names tags at Brodhead
    From: "kevinpurtee" <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
    A donation to the local chapter is also appropriate. Then you'll get your button. do not archive -------- Kevin &quot;Axel&quot; Purtee NX899KP Austin/San Marcos, TX Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376473#376473


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    Time: 07:44:56 PM PST US
    Subject: NX7229R Flies again!
    From: Andrew Eldredge <andrew.eldredge@gmail.com>
    After major repairs to the fuselage, NX7229R put .75 hours on the Tach today. Annual was signed Thursday morning. Today, three high speed runs down the runway, she wanted to fly, but I only lifted the tail. Stopped to see if anythin in the controls had shifted. Called in a ground crew next and committed to the air for a lap around the patch. That worked out so nicely that I had to do it again.... -- Andrew Eldredge Provo, UT


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    Subject: Re: 1929,1932,1934... (purist alert!!)
    From: "Bill Church" <billspiet@sympatico.ca>
    Hmmm... why did you paint "Travel Air" on the fin of your Pietenpol, Gene? That's confusing. Gene wrote: > You think painting the name on the tail is going to let anyone know what it is?? I've got "Travel Air" in big letters on the fin and still get "what is it, a Stearman?" all the time. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376480#376480




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