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1. 04:17 AM - Re: 1 piece vs. 3 piece wing weight? (Don Emch)
2. 04:51 AM - 3-piece wing (Douwe Blumberg)
3. 05:22 AM - Re: 1 piece vs. 3 piece wing weight? (pineymb)
4. 05:35 AM - Need a ride to Chicago Midway? (tkreiner)
5. 06:33 AM - Re: Next time... (C N Campbell)
6. 06:34 AM - Re: Need a ride to Chicago Midway? (Gary Boothe)
7. 07:03 AM - Re: Next time... (kevinpurtee)
8. 07:09 AM - Re: Next time... (kevinpurtee)
9. 07:16 AM - Re: Dual time (kevinpurtee)
10. 10:28 AM - Re: Re: Next time... (C N Campbell)
11. 02:05 PM - Re: pinstriping tape (Barry Davis)
12. 03:50 PM - Re: pinstriping tape (Doug Dever)
13. 05:57 PM - Re: Re: 1929,1932,1934... (purist alert!!) (Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB)
14. 06:11 PM - Re: Re: 1929,1932,1934... (purist alert!!) (Ryan Mueller)
15. 06:20 PM - Re: Re: 1929,1932,1934... (purist alert!!) (Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB)
16. 06:24 PM - progress report (Douwe Blumberg)
17. 07:01 PM - Re: Re: Dual time (Gary Boothe)
18. 07:02 PM - anybody have two turnbuckles?? (Douwe Blumberg)
19. 07:08 PM - Re: progress report (helspersew@aol.com)
20. 07:27 PM - Re: anybody have two turnbuckles?? (Jim Markle)
21. 07:28 PM - Re: My Babe Magnet (Dan Yocum)
22. 07:42 PM - Re: what is a BFR Jack? (Dan Yocum)
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| Subject: | Re: 1 piece vs. 3 piece wing weight? |
Hey Fred,
I didn't make it to Beach City. The thunderstorms kept me away.
I don't have any kind of trim system or tabs. My nose tank holds 14.5 gallons.
When it is full I do have to hold some back stick, but it is so minimal I really
don't even notice it. Even when flying cross-countries all day long it's
no big deal. You'll probably get several different ideas on this but I've never
seen it as anything I would need.
Don Emch
NX899DE
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I concur that the one piece wing cannot weigh much less, maybe 5 pounds
max??... maybe???
My observations seem to reveal the chief reasons for building the one-piece
are:
1. SOME weight savings
2. SOME building simplicity, though offset in my opinion FAR OFFSET by
the PIA caused by it's size through the building process
3. It's the purist form of Pietenpol wing
4. and maybe the most important reason I've seen is. the all important
COOLNESS FACTOR!! "Oh and. did you notice?.that's a one-piece wing up
there."
If any of these, or a combination of the above are important enough to you,
then go ahead and build a one-piece. I'm personally very glad I have the
three-piece for all the reasons stated by others.
$.02
Douwe
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| Subject: | Re: 1 piece vs. 3 piece wing weight? |
Compromise and meet half way as in a two piece. Supposedly about 7 pound saving
in weight compared to three piece.
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Winnipeg, MB
Canada
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| Subject: | Need a ride to Chicago Midway? |
Recently, someone posted the need for a ride from OSH to MDW after AirVenture is
over. I wasn't able to find the post, hence this new post.
On Sunday, July 29, I'll be driving to MDW early afternoon. Should arrive there
around 6 pm... Exact time of arrival per wife's flight.
If anyone needs a lift, let me know offline.
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Tom Kreiner
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| Subject: | Re: Next time... |
I just hope I get the one I'm working on finished before I pass on! I have
never considered building another one. I might think more about it after I
have flown the current one for a while. There are some things I would have
done differently had I known before hand what would happen. Chuck
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----- Original Message -----
From: "tools" <n0kkj@yahoo.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 4:19 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Next time...
>
> Just noticed something kind of interesting in the 3 piece wing thread.
> That was Kevin's statement about building a three piece wing "next time".
>
> Dick N is on his third. I own one and am building. I knew a guy in San
> Diego who built one, then bought one. Who else has built or owned more
> than one? Is it more common in the Piet genre to build or own multiples?
>
> Also, Piets seem to be built in multiples by groups, as well as multiples
> building one (as in EAA chapters). I'm sure the RV series has a bunch of
> this, by nature of the popularity.
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376508#376508
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| Subject: | Need a ride to Chicago Midway? |
Thanks, Tom! My limo has been arranged.
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of tkreiner
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 5:35 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Need a ride to Chicago Midway?
Recently, someone posted the need for a ride from OSH to MDW after
AirVenture is over. I wasn't able to find the post, hence this new post.
On Sunday, July 29, I'll be driving to MDW early afternoon. Should arrive
there around 6 pm... Exact time of arrival per wife's flight.
If anyone needs a lift, let me know offline.
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Tom Kreiner
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| Subject: | Re: Next time... |
If there's anyone on this list who will finish and fly, it's you, Chuck.
For those of you who don't know Chuck's background: he's a former WWII naval aviator.
I've heard some of the stories second hand, and I'm pretty darn sure he's
the real deal. And, perhaps more significantly, Chuck saw the light, achieved
enlightenment, and eventually retired as an army warrant officer aviator.
Chuck can correct any mistakes.
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Kevin "Axel" Purtee
NX899KP
Austin/San Marcos, TX
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| Subject: | Re: Next time... |
If there's anyone on this list who will finish and fly, Chuck, it's you.
For those of you who don't know Chuck's background: he was a naval aviator in WWII.
I've heard some of the stories second hand and I'm thinkin' he's the real
deal. More significantly, Chuck eventually became enlightened, switched to
the Army, and retired as an aviation warrant officer.
Chuck can correct any mistakes.
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Kevin "Axel" Purtee
NX899KP
Austin/San Marcos, TX
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It took you a LONG TIME to figure that out, Gary:).
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Kevin "Axel" Purtee
NX899KP
Austin/San Marcos, TX
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| Subject: | Re: Next time... |
Thanks, Kevin. I won't make it to Brodhead this year, but, the good Lord
willing, maybe next year. I would really like to meet all the people whose
E-mails I have been reading on the list for the last couple of years. Chuck
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----- Original Message -----
From: "kevinpurtee" <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 10:02 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Next time...
> <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
>
> If there's anyone on this list who will finish and fly, it's you, Chuck.
>
> For those of you who don't know Chuck's background: he's a former WWII
> naval aviator. I've heard some of the stories second hand, and I'm pretty
> darn sure he's the real deal. And, perhaps more significantly, Chuck saw
> the light, achieved enlightenment, and eventually retired as an army
> warrant officer aviator.
>
> Chuck can correct any mistakes.
>
> do not archive
>
> --------
> Kevin "Axel" Purtee
> NX899KP
> Austin/San Marcos, TX
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376556#376556
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| Subject: | pinstriping tape |
Only use blue striping tape for color breaks. You will get bleed from just
about any paper tape (green or blue 3M) Here is the trick I use: put your
green tape with paper about 1/8 inch from the color line. Then go over it
with the blue striping tape. After painting and before the paint is dry,
pull off the blue striping tape by pulling it back over itself and toward
the wet paint. That way any "whiskers" will fall on the wet paint and not
the contrasting color. I'll send you a pic of one I did about a month ago.
Barry
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Douwe
Blumberg
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 9:20 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: pinstriping tape
Does anybody have experience with pinstriping paint on a fabric covered
airplane?
Sprayed today and got a little seepage next to my trim color and though I
cleaned most of it up, I'm considering a pinstripe to make it sharper. I'm
assuming a good quality automotive tape would work fine right?
Douwe
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| Subject: | Re: pinstriping tape |
The striping tape also has a smoother edge.=0A=C2-=0ADoug Dever=0AIn beau
tiful Stow Ohio=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Barry Davi
s <bed@mindspring.com>=0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Monday,
June 25, 2012 5:05 PM=0ASubject: RE: Pietenpol-List: pinstriping tape=0A=0A
=0AOnly use blue striping tape for color breaks. You will get bleed from ju
st about any paper tape (green or blue 3M) Here is the trick I use: put you
r green tape with paper about 1/8 inch from the color line. Then go over it
with the blue striping tape. After painting and before the paint is dry, p
ull off the blue striping tape by pulling it back over itself and toward th
e wet paint. That way any "whiskers" will fall on the wet paint and not the
contrasting color. I'll send you a pic of one I did about a month ago.=0AB
arry=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: owner-pietenpol-list-
server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On
Behalf Of Douwe Blumberg=0ASent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 9:20 PM=0ATo: piet
enpolgroup=0ASubject: Pietenpol-List: pinstriping tape=0A=0A=0ADoes anybody
have experience with pinstriping paint on a fabric covered airplane?=0A=C2
-=0ASprayed today and got a little seepage next to my trim color and thou
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| Subject: | Re: 1929,1932,1934... (purist alert!!) |
What year was Bernard born?
Blue Skies,
Steve D
----- Original Message -----
From: K5YAC <hangar10@cox.net>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: 1929,1932,1934... (purist alert!!)
>
> I am NX29BP... so I vote for 1929 as well. Wiki says 1928... wonder where they
got that info?
>
> Ray, the first sky scout (10718) was built in 1931 if we are to believe the data
plate and it belonged to Orrin Hoopman. Wiki says
> 1933... wrong again.
>
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> Mark Chouinard
> Wings, Center Section and Empannage and Fuse framed up - Working on
> Landing Gear
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| Subject: | Re: 1929,1932,1934... (purist alert!!) |
http://bit.ly/LM6eu1
:)
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On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 7:48 PM, Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB <
steven.d.dortch@us.army.mil> wrote:
> steven.d.dortch@us.army.mil>
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> What year was Bernard born?
>
> Blue Skies,
> Steve D
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: K5YAC <hangar10@cox.net>
> Date: Saturday, June 23, 2012 16:01
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: 1929,1932,1934... (purist alert!!)
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>
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> >
> > I am NX29BP... so I vote for 1929 as well. Wiki says 1928... wonder
> where they got that info?
> >
> > Ray, the first sky scout (10718) was built in 1931 if we are to believe
> the data plate and it belonged to Orrin Hoopman. Wiki says
> > 1933... wrong again.
> >
> > --------
> > Mark Chouinard
> > Wings, Center Section and Empannage and Fuse framed up - Working on
> > Landing Gear
> >
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> >
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> > Read this topic online here:
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> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376458#376458
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| Subject: | Re: 1929,1932,1934... (purist alert!!) |
Thank you Ryan, Or is your name Richard? DICK for short! (I about fell out of my
chair with tears in my eyes)
So Douwe can put 1901 on his plane! I am sure Bernard was thinking of the design
upon birth, If not earlier.
Please Really!
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So that I am not beaten any more.
Steve D
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From: Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: 1929,1932,1934... (purist alert!!)
> http://bit.ly/LM6eu1
>
> :)
>
> do not archive
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> On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 7:48 PM, Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB <steven.d.dortch@us.army.mil>
wrote:
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> >
> > What year was Bernard born?
> >
> > Blue Skies,
> > Steve D
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: K5YAC <
> > Date: Saturday, June 23, 2012 16:01
> > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: 1929,1932,1934... (purist alert!!)
> > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> >
> >
> > > I am NX29BP... so I vote for 1929 as well. Wiki says 1928... wonder
> > where they got that info?
> > >
> > > Ray, the first sky scout (10718) was built in 1931 if we are to believe
> > the data plate and it belonged to Orrin Hoopman. Wiki says
> > > 1933... wrong again.
> > >
> > > --------
> > > Mark Chouinard
> > > Wings, Center Section and Empannage and Fuse framed up - Working on
> > > Landing Gear
> > >
> > >
> > >
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In the home stretch.
All painted. Sheet metal painted. Put some pinstriping tape between the
two colors and it looks VERY sharp and hides the trouble spots.
Installing empennage and making new cables. Hook up rudder and flippers
tomorrow, do some twiddly stuff, paint my new logo, install sheet metal and
take her to the airport!!
Douwe
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"The mills of the Gods are slow, but they grind exceedingly fine."
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of kevinpurtee
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 7:15 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Dual time
--> <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
It took you a LONG TIME to figure that out, Gary:).
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Kevin "Axel" Purtee
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| Subject: | anybody have two turnbuckles?? |
I need two stupid turnbuckles to finish my tail surfaces. Does anybody have
two small ones (1/16th cable) they don't need and want to sell?? I need two
complete ones with a cable eye on one end and a fork on the other, and two
extra fork ends.
Douwe
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| Subject: | Re: progress report |
Same logo Douwe?
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-----Original Message-----
From: Douwe Blumberg <douweblumberg@earthlink.net>
Sent: Mon, Jun 25, 2012 8:24 pm
Subject: Pietenpol-List: progress report
In the home stretch
All painted. Sheet metal painted. Put some pinstripingtape between the tw
o colors and it looks VERY sharp and hides the troublespots.
Installing empennage and making new cables. Hook up rudderand flippers tom
orrow, do some twiddly stuff, paint my new logo, install sheetmetal and tak
e her to the airport!!
Douwe
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| Subject: | Re: My Babe Magnet |
Mike,
You have a lovely Air Camper. The only problem I can see is that you
mispelled the name. An Aircamper is a Grega GN-1. An Air Camper is a
Pietenpol...
:-O
I'm such a jerk...
Cheers,
Dan
do not archive
On 06/15/2012 10:46 AM, Hayes, Mike wrote:
> Hello Chaps,
>
> Just a quick piccie of what to expect when you get to the end of your
> project!
>
> In reality, some arty girlies from a local college had seen me wobbling
> around and wanted to borrow my Lovely Little Aeroplane for a photo shoot.
>
> My calculations show that if I had started building at the age of ten I
> would have been in with more of a chance!
>
> Regards,
>
> Mike
>
> *Mike Hayes
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| Subject: | Re: what is a BFR Jack? |
Not _just_ to carry pax... If you want to fly, you gotta have that
Flight Review...
On 06/22/2012 12:21 PM, Jack Phillips wrote:
> Biennial Flight Review (now just called a Flight Review by the FAA).
> Required every 24 calendar months in order to carry passengers.
> Jack Phillips
> NX899JP
> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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Dan Yocum
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"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
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