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     1. 12:25 AM - Re: 1 piece vs. 3 piece wing weight? (Gene Rambo)
     2. 12:32 AM - Re: Re: 1929,1932,1934... (purist alert!!) (Gene Rambo)
     3. 04:14 AM - logo (Douwe Blumberg)
     4. 07:23 AM - Re: Insurance requirements (AircamperN11MS)
     5. 08:20 AM - Re: 1929,1932,1934... (purist alert!!) (kevinpurtee)
     6. 01:07 PM - Engine-Prop (TriScout)
     7. 04:06 PM - Prop Needed Quick (jeff wilson)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | 1 piece vs. 3 piece wing weight? | 
      
      
      Jack=2C I have to say that once covered=2C the one piece is a piece of cake
       to flip.  I guess the fabric adds some stiffness=2C because two people can
       flip it easily with no sag in the middle.  Also=2C I built a pretty nifty 
      rotating jig for painting=2C which I am doing as we speak.  Start fueling y
      our airplane . . . .  
      Genedo not archive
       > From: pietflyr@bellsouth.net
      > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      > Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: 1 piece vs. 3 piece wing weight?
      > Date: Sun=2C 24 Jun 2012 15:05:25 -0400
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      > Fred=2C
      > 
      > I don't know about Tony Bingelis making ANY claims about the Pietenpol.  
      He
      > never built one.  I can say that I seriously doubt any claim of the
      > one-piece wing being 30-50 lbs lighter than the 3-piece.  I would believe
      > 10-15 lbs=2C but no more than that.
      > 
      > Counter to the weight argument is the fact that the one piece wing is rat
      her
      > fragile until completed and mounted on the airplane.  While I built the
      > 3-piece wing myself (even though I had plenty of room to do a one-piece)
      =2C I
      > have helped Gene Rambo work on his one-piece wing and it is extremely
      > difficult to turn that wing over=2C even with two people.  You really nee
      d a
      > third person to support the wing in the middle as you flip it over.  Thin
      k
      > about how many times you will need to turn that wing over as you build=2C
      > cover and paint it.  Then think about how you are going to transport it t
      o
      > the airport once built.  And if=2C like me=2C you are unfortunate enough 
      to make
      > a forced landing and need to move the airplane from the crash site by tru
      ck=2C
      > a one-piece wing will again cause more problems.
      > 
      > I did a lot of things on my Pietenpol that I would change if I were to bu
      ild
      > another=2C but I would keep the 3-piece wing.
      > 
      > Jack Phillips
      > NX899JP
      > Smith Mountain Lake=2C Virginia
      > 
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of FandS_Pie
      t
      > Sent: Sunday=2C June 24=2C 2012 2:08 PM
      > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      > Subject: Pietenpol-List: 1 piece vs. 3 piece wing weight?
      > 
      > 
      > So I have been pondering about a building a 1 or 3 piece wing. Without
      > ranting about the advantages and disadvantages that we all know about it
      > seems to me like the 1 piece is a no brainer  IF you have the space.  Ton
      y
      > Bingelis says that says that the 1 piece is 30-50 lbs lighter and saves y
      ou
      > about 100 hours in building time. Both of which are substantial numbers w
      ith
      > weight savings being far more than important to me than time.
      >   My question is to those with flying Piets have you weighed your complet
      ed
      > wing? I understand there are variables such as fuel tank or no fuel tank
      =2C
      > stainless or aluminum ect...
      > 
      > Thanks=2C
      >   Fred Kim
      > 
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      > Read this topic online here:
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      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376500#376500
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| Subject:  | Re: 1929,1932,1934... (purist alert!!) | 
      
      
      Just to confuse half-wits!  Obviously it worked . . .  Gene  =3B) do not ar
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       > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: 1929=2C1932=2C1934... (purist alert!!)
      > From: billspiet@sympatico.ca
      > Date: Sat=2C 23 Jun 2012 23:28:29 -0700
      > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      > 
      ca>
      > 
      > Hmmm... why did you paint "Travel Air" on the fin of your Pietenpol=2C Ge
      ne? That's confusing.  
      > 
      > Gene wrote:
      > 
      > > You think painting the name on the tail is going to let anyone know wha
      t it is?? I've got "Travel Air" in big letters on the fin and still get "wh
      at is it=2C a Stearman?" all the time.
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      No Dan, whole new "look".  The old one just didn't seem to fit the new
      engine/nose combo.
      
      
      It's not a "logo" per-se, I've always liked the old pre-war Sopwith Tabloids
      with "SOPWITH"  written down the side of the fuselage, very large.  I'm
      doing the same thing with "RE-PIET" down the sides.  That's it, nothing
      fancy.
      
      
      Douwe
      
      
      Do not archive
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Insurance requirements | 
      
      
      Gary,
      
      I would be willing to do that, provide you get your BFR done before hand.  You
      won't need a medical since it qualifies as lightsport.  Insurance won't be an
      issue since I am self insured, code for uninsured.  I haven't had any since I
      rebuilt it in 2000.  Most of my flying is over open desert.
      
      --------
      Scott Liefeld
      Flying N11MS since March 1972
      Steel Tube
      C-85-12
      Wire Wheels
      Brodhead in 1996
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376642#376642
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: 1929,1932,1934... (purist alert!!) | 
      
      
      I can read what you're writing Gene.  I'm right here.
      
      do not archive
      
      --------
      Kevin "Axel" Purtee
      NX899KP
      Austin/San Marcos, TX
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376646#376646
      
      
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      Hi all..
      
      Saw this engine/prop offered for sale. Thought I'd share the info..
      
      http://www.j3-cub.com/smf/index.php?topic=7674.msg79081#msg79081
      
      Larry
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376674#376674
      
      
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| Subject:  | Prop Needed Quick | 
      
      Off topic but please forgive me. If you guys could please spread the word, 
      half the world will hear of our need in 3 days.=0A=0A-This is for a fligh
      t on July 4th. Urgency is needed. =0A=0AIn our Flight Tests today and in di
      scussions with Great Plains VW Steve we feel the best prop for our 4th of J
      uly World Record setting flight from St Joe to St Louis to help raise aware
      ness and money for Homeless Veterans is a 52 or 54 inch prop at 48 pitch. 
      =0A=0AThus a 52x48 or 54x48 is what we could use ASAP to best the speed on 
      our Soneria IIL called "No Beans About It!" Meaning we aren't messing aroun
      d. This includes NASCAR-quality engine gurus, a former AF top Missile Man, 
      an Electric Wizard, his son, grandson, etc. I could go on because this gang
       rivals ANY out there. =0A=0ABottom-line, we need a prop so if you can help
       get one here ASAP we would appreciate it. Thanks!!! =0A=0AP.S. In our circ
      le, we have 3 Piet projects under construction.=0A=0ABrian Kissinger brains
      flight@yahoo.com- or (351) 601-1908=0A=0AJeff Wilson jlwilsonnn@yahoo.com
       (314) 974-4589=0A=0ADo Not Archive=0A
      
 
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