---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 06/26/12: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:25 AM - Re: 1 piece vs. 3 piece wing weight? (Gene Rambo) 2. 12:32 AM - Re: Re: 1929,1932,1934... (purist alert!!) (Gene Rambo) 3. 04:14 AM - logo (Douwe Blumberg) 4. 07:23 AM - Re: Insurance requirements (AircamperN11MS) 5. 08:20 AM - Re: 1929,1932,1934... (purist alert!!) (kevinpurtee) 6. 01:07 PM - Engine-Prop (TriScout) 7. 04:06 PM - Prop Needed Quick (jeff wilson) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:25:36 AM PST US From: Gene Rambo Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: 1 piece vs. 3 piece wing weight? Jack=2C I have to say that once covered=2C the one piece is a piece of cake to flip. I guess the fabric adds some stiffness=2C because two people can flip it easily with no sag in the middle. Also=2C I built a pretty nifty rotating jig for painting=2C which I am doing as we speak. Start fueling y our airplane . . . . Genedo not archive > From: pietflyr@bellsouth.net > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: 1 piece vs. 3 piece wing weight? > Date: Sun=2C 24 Jun 2012 15:05:25 -0400 > .net> > > Fred=2C > > I don't know about Tony Bingelis making ANY claims about the Pietenpol. He > never built one. I can say that I seriously doubt any claim of the > one-piece wing being 30-50 lbs lighter than the 3-piece. I would believe > 10-15 lbs=2C but no more than that. > > Counter to the weight argument is the fact that the one piece wing is rat her > fragile until completed and mounted on the airplane. While I built the > 3-piece wing myself (even though I had plenty of room to do a one-piece) =2C I > have helped Gene Rambo work on his one-piece wing and it is extremely > difficult to turn that wing over=2C even with two people. You really nee d a > third person to support the wing in the middle as you flip it over. Thin k > about how many times you will need to turn that wing over as you build=2C > cover and paint it. Then think about how you are going to transport it t o > the airport once built. And if=2C like me=2C you are unfortunate enough to make > a forced landing and need to move the airplane from the crash site by tru ck=2C > a one-piece wing will again cause more problems. > > I did a lot of things on my Pietenpol that I would change if I were to bu ild > another=2C but I would keep the 3-piece wing. > > Jack Phillips > NX899JP > Smith Mountain Lake=2C Virginia > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of FandS_Pie t > Sent: Sunday=2C June 24=2C 2012 2:08 PM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Pietenpol-List: 1 piece vs. 3 piece wing weight? > > > So I have been pondering about a building a 1 or 3 piece wing. Without > ranting about the advantages and disadvantages that we all know about it > seems to me like the 1 piece is a no brainer IF you have the space. Ton y > Bingelis says that says that the 1 piece is 30-50 lbs lighter and saves y ou > about 100 hours in building time. Both of which are substantial numbers w ith > weight savings being far more than important to me than time. > My question is to those with flying Piets have you weighed your complet ed > wing? I understand there are variables such as fuel tank or no fuel tank =2C > stainless or aluminum ect... > > Thanks=2C > Fred Kim > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376500#376500 > > > > > > > > > > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 12:32:36 AM PST US From: Gene Rambo Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: 1929,1932,1934... (purist alert!!) Just to confuse half-wits! Obviously it worked . . . Gene =3B) do not ar chive > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: 1929=2C1932=2C1934... (purist alert!!) > From: billspiet@sympatico.ca > Date: Sat=2C 23 Jun 2012 23:28:29 -0700 > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > ca> > > Hmmm... why did you paint "Travel Air" on the fin of your Pietenpol=2C Ge ne? That's confusing. > > Gene wrote: > > > You think painting the name on the tail is going to let anyone know wha t it is?? I've got "Travel Air" in big letters on the fin and still get "wh at is it=2C a Stearman?" all the time. > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376480#376480 > > > > > > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:14:47 AM PST US From: "Douwe Blumberg" Subject: Pietenpol-List: logo No Dan, whole new "look". The old one just didn't seem to fit the new engine/nose combo. It's not a "logo" per-se, I've always liked the old pre-war Sopwith Tabloids with "SOPWITH" written down the side of the fuselage, very large. I'm doing the same thing with "RE-PIET" down the sides. That's it, nothing fancy. Douwe Do not archive ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:23:11 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Insurance requirements From: "AircamperN11MS" Gary, I would be willing to do that, provide you get your BFR done before hand. You won't need a medical since it qualifies as lightsport. Insurance won't be an issue since I am self insured, code for uninsured. I haven't had any since I rebuilt it in 2000. Most of my flying is over open desert. -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Brodhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376642#376642 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:20:32 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: 1929,1932,1934... (purist alert!!) From: "kevinpurtee" I can read what you're writing Gene. I'm right here. do not archive -------- Kevin "Axel" Purtee NX899KP Austin/San Marcos, TX Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376646#376646 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 01:07:08 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Engine-Prop From: "TriScout" Hi all.. Saw this engine/prop offered for sale. Thought I'd share the info.. http://www.j3-cub.com/smf/index.php?topic=7674.msg79081#msg79081 Larry Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376674#376674 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 04:06:19 PM PST US From: jeff wilson Subject: Pietenpol-List: Prop Needed Quick Off topic but please forgive me. If you guys could please spread the word, half the world will hear of our need in 3 days.=0A=0A-This is for a fligh t on July 4th. Urgency is needed. =0A=0AIn our Flight Tests today and in di scussions with Great Plains VW Steve we feel the best prop for our 4th of J uly World Record setting flight from St Joe to St Louis to help raise aware ness and money for Homeless Veterans is a 52 or 54 inch prop at 48 pitch. =0A=0AThus a 52x48 or 54x48 is what we could use ASAP to best the speed on our Soneria IIL called "No Beans About It!" Meaning we aren't messing aroun d. This includes NASCAR-quality engine gurus, a former AF top Missile Man, an Electric Wizard, his son, grandson, etc. I could go on because this gang rivals ANY out there. =0A=0ABottom-line, we need a prop so if you can help get one here ASAP we would appreciate it. Thanks!!! =0A=0AP.S. In our circ le, we have 3 Piet projects under construction.=0A=0ABrian Kissinger brains flight@yahoo.com- or (351) 601-1908=0A=0AJeff Wilson jlwilsonnn@yahoo.com (314) 974-4589=0A=0ADo Not Archive=0A ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.