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     3. 05:50 AM - RC (Amsafetyc)
     4. 06:07 AM - Re: Exaust stack,Brodhead (Hans van der Voort)
     5. 06:20 AM - Re: Exaust stack,Brodhead (AircamperN11MS)
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     7. 06:43 AM - Shad's exhaust (Douwe Blumberg)
     8. 07:04 AM - Re: Exaust stack,Brodhead (steve@wotelectronics.com)
     9. 08:28 AM - Re: RC (K5YAC)
    10. 08:55 AM - Re: RC (tools)
    11. 09:39 AM - Bill's taxiing!! (Lawrence Williams)
    12. 10:33 AM - Re: RC (K5YAC)
    13. 11:10 AM - Re: RC (kevinpurtee)
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    15. 12:08 PM - Re: RC (Amsafetyc)
    16. 12:32 PM - Re: Bill's taxiing!! (BYD)
    17. 12:43 PM - Re:Pietenpol fly In at Brodhead (Barnwell Regional Airport)
    18. 01:42 PM - Re: Bill's taxiing!! (DO NOT ARCHIVE)
    19. 01:49 PM - Re: Bill's taxiing!! (Dan Yocum)
    20. 03:58 PM - Re: Bill's taxiing!! (BYD)
    21. 04:00 PM - Re: Re:Pietenpol fly In at Brodhead (Ryan Mueller)
    22. 04:17 PM - I've bought a Piet! (Peter W Johnson)
    23. 04:35 PM - Re: I've bought a Piet! (Gary Boothe)
    24. 04:39 PM - Cockpit Covers (Gary Boothe)
    25. 04:44 PM - Re: I've bought a Piet! (Peter W Johnson)
    26. 04:50 PM - Re: Cockpit Covers (IT Girl)
    27. 04:58 PM - Re: Re:Pietenpol fly In at Brodhead (Ryan M)
    28. 05:16 PM - Re: Re:Pietenpol fly In at Brodhead (Ryan Mueller)
    29. 05:36 PM - Re: Cockpit Covers (John Francis)
    30. 05:37 PM - Re: I've bought a Piet! (bubbleboy)
    31. 07:25 PM - Re: Cockpit Covers (skipgadd@earthlink.net)
    32. 07:29 PM - Re: Bill's taxiing!! (aerocarjake)
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| Subject:  | Exaust stack,Brodhead | 
      
      Shad,
      
      My original exhaust system was stainless.  After it cracked for the fourth
      time I replaced it with a mild steel set, which has held up for 5 years and
      200+ hours of flying.  I take it off every 3 years, beadblast it and paint
      it with clear VHT paint.  Works fine.
      
      Jack Phillips
      NX899JP
      Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
      
        _____  
      
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of shad bell
      Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 10:01 PM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Exaust stack,Brodhead
      
      
      Well, Fell'ers I might try Brodhead if I get the Thurs and following Monday
      off.  Dad is probably going to sit this one out (even though he has the
      cofortable sleeping quarters).  I have to weld up a new exaust for the r/h
      side with a heat muff for the carb heat.  It has cracked once before, on our
      1st time at Brodhead, that weld repair has reached it's end of its usefull
      life.  Dad ordered the flanges, now I need to get the tubing.  The current
      exaust is stainless, I was wondering how long anyone out there's mild steel
      exausts are holding up.  I can weld mild steel, never tried much stainless
      (I got 8 hrs out of my last exaust repair using acetylene and mild steel
      rod).  I might just pay the welder across the street to weld a stainless
      stack with his TIG after I cut out all the parts, but I am stuborn and like
      to do it myself.  Also wondering if anyone here has ceramicoated there mild
      steel exaust pipes, and how expensive it is.
      
      Hope to see you all in a few weeks,
      Shad
      Do not archive
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Exaust stack,Brodhead | 
      
      
      Shad,
      
      I TIG welded my mild steel exhaust, then chrome-plated. I was told that thi
      s is a big no-no because it will pre-maturely crack. Anybody that is knowle
      dgeable (or just thinks they are knowledgeable, or has heard of anyone bein
      g knowledgeable) please feel free to chime in on this subject.
      
      Dan Helsper
      Puryear, TN
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: shad bell <aviatorbell@yahoo.com>
      Sent: Thu, Jun 28, 2012 9:03 pm
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Exaust stack,Brodhead
      
      
      Well, Fell'ers I might try Brodhead if I get the Thurs and following Monday
       off.  Dad is probably going to sit this one out (even though he has the co
      fortable sleeping quarters).  I have to weld up a new exaust for the r/h si
      de with a heat muff for the carb heat.  It has cracked once before, on our 
      1st time at Brodhead, that weld repair has reached it's end of its usefull 
      life.  Dad ordered the flanges, now I need to get the tubing.  The current 
      exaust is stainless, I was wondering how long anyone out there's mild steel
       exausts are holding up.  I can weld mild steel, never tried much stainless
       (I got 8 hrs out of my last exaust repair using acetylene and mild steel r
      od).  I might just pay the welder across the street to weld a stainless sta
      ck with his TIG after I cut out all the parts, but I am stuborn and like to
       do it myself.  Also wondering if anyone here has ceramicoated there mild s
      teel exaust pipes, and how expensive it is.
      
      Hope to see you all in a few weeks,
      Shad
      Do not archive
      
      
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      Is anyone bringing or considering bringing and flying RC aircraft at Brodhead?
      
      
      John
      
      Sent from my iPhone
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Exaust stack,Brodhead | 
      
      Shad,=0A-=0AI replaced mine last month, the carbon steel finally rusted t
      hrough after 7 years.=0AAlthough I could have patched it, the hole was at t
      he last turn right below the cowling.=0AThe rest of the Exhaust was still i
      n good shape.=0AI sand blasted and painted them with VHT. =0A-=0ANew exha
      ust is WW stainless, but modified to change a few angles to clear motor mou
      nt.=0A-=0AHans=0AWaller, TX=0ANX15KV=0A =0A=0A___________________________
      _____=0A From: shad bell <aviatorbell@yahoo.com>=0ATo: pietenpol-list@matro
      nics.com =0ASent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 9:01 PM=0ASubject: Pietenpol-List
      : Exaust stack,Brodhead=0A   =0AWell, Fell'ers I might try Brodhead if I ge
      t the Thurs and following Monday off.- Dad is probably going to sit this 
      one out (even though he has the cofortable sleeping quarters).- I have to
       weld up a new exaust for the r/h side with a heat muff for the carb heat.
      - It has cracked once before, on our 1st time at Brodhead, that weld repa
      ir has reached it's end of its usefull life.- Dad ordered the flanges, no
      w I need to get the tubing.- The current exaust is stainless, I was wonde
      ring how long anyone out there's mild steel exausts are holding up.- I ca
      n weld mild steel, never tried much stainless (I got 8 hrs out of my last e
      xaust repair using acetylene and mild steel rod).- I might just pay the w
      elder across the street to weld a stainless stack with his TIG-after I cu
      t out all the parts, but I am stuborn and like to do it myself.- Also won
      dering if anyone here has ceramicoated there mild steel exaust pipes, and h
      ow expensive it is. =0A=0AHope to see you all in a few weeks, =0AShad =0ADo
      ======================    
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Exaust stack,Brodhead | 
      
      
      Mild steel on mine for the past 30 years.  Has never cracked.
      
      --------
      Scott Liefeld
      Flying N11MS since March 1972
      Steel Tube
      C-85-12
      Wire Wheels
      Brodhead in 1996
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376835#376835
      
      
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      I'll have some control line models... and beer brewing equipment!
      
      Wasn't bringing them to fly there, they're just tagging along on a relocation sort
      of event.  It's an ugly old thing (a modified Sig Banshee built in '91 and
      '05) but it'll do the entire PAMPA stunt pattern easily.  Also will have a Carl
      Goldberg Buster built for Foxberg racing that I use as a trainer.
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376836#376836
      
      
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      Shad, my advice to you is to confess and repent of your stubbornness, have
      your tig welder across the street weld your stainless exhaust and spend your
      time gettin' her ready for Brodhead where we can all appreciate her!!
      
      
      $.02
      
      
      Douwe
      
      
      Do not archive
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Exaust stack,Brodhead | 
      
      
      Shad, 
      
      A couple years ago I replaced my old mild steel stacks (they
      were modified Aeronca) as they had deteriorated. I made mild steel
      straight stacks then had them ceramic coated by a local shop, it cost
      $100 for all four. They charged by the foot, and mine are about 15" long
      I believe, so the rate must've been about $20/foot. The ceramic coating
      looks great, like bare, fresh metal and I'd guess they'll look this good
      for at least 15 years, the ceramic coating is very durable. The
      challenge will be protecting the coating from getting scuffed by the
      heat muff. I'd like to try using small amounts of fiberglass header wrap
      between the muff and exhaust to keep them from getting scratched. 
      
      Hope
      this helps, let me know if you have any questions. 
      
      Steve Ruse
      Norman,
      OK 
      
      On 2012-06-28 21:01, shad bell wrote: 
      
      > Well, Fell'ers I might
      try Brodhead if I get the Thurs and following Monday off. Dad is
      probably going to sit this one out (even though he has the cofortable
      sleeping quarters). I have to weld up a new exaust for the r/h side with
      a heat muff for the carb heat. It has cracked once before, on our 1st
      time at Brodhead, that weld repair has reached it's end of its usefull
      life. Dad ordered the flanges, now I need to get the tubing. The current
      exaust is stainless, I was wondering how long anyone out there's mild
      steel exausts are holding up. I can weld mild steel, never tried much
      stainless (I got 8 hrs out of my last exaust repair using acetylene and
      mild steel rod). I might just pay the welder across the street to weld a
      stainless stack with his TIG after I cut out all the parts, but I am
      stuborn and like to do it myself. Also wondering if anyone here has
      ceramicoated there mild steel exaust pipes, and how expensive it is. 
      >
      
      > Hope to see you all in a few weeks, 
      > Shad 
      > Do not archive 
      > 
      >
      HTTP://WWW.MATRONICS.COM/CONTRIBUTION
      
      
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      Not sure how the AMA or the FAA might look at those activities.  The little park
      fliers are one thing, and could probably be safely confined to a corner of the
      field, but hot little nitro burners are probably another issue.  
      
      If it is just a show and tell... I'll bring some photos.  As for flying... a little
      risky given the other activities that will be going on.
      
      --------
      Mark Chouinard
      Wings, Center Section and Empannage and Fuse framed up - Working on Landing Gear
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376841#376841
      
      
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      It's an uncontrolled airfield, so the FAA shouldn't care.  I"ve flown at uncontrolled
      (and closed controlled) fields a lot over the years.  The AMA has no jurisdiction
      whatsoever.  
      
      Control line uses a hemisphere 120 feet in diameter.  Radio control has a reasonable
      chance of a fly away whether it's electric or gas, so Mark is right, somewhat
      risky.  However, there's times when no planes are airborne.  The main issue
      would be to coordinate any RC activity to prevent interference.
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376844#376844
      
      
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| Subject:  | Bill's taxiing!! | 
      
      I just got a video of Bill Sayre taxiing his brand spanking new Pietenpol Air Camper
      ( and it's a REAL one) on the ramp at Gig Harbor. I've encouraged him to
      post a link on this site.
      
      It's refreshing to see a to-the-plans Piet with no apologies for supposed "necessary"
      changes. Bill followed the plans, got through the model "A" conversion
      and teething problems and now has a 1930's replica of an American icon. 
      
      Maybe the BPA will see fit to put this one on the cover someday and be able to
      correctly label it as a Pietenpol Air Camper!!
      
      Larry (TC) Williams
      
      do not archive
      
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      Jurisdiction is not the issue... it is a matter of safety and liability (insurance
      requirements).  If you have any history at all with the AMA, you would know
      where I am coming from.  There are ways to do this, but given the size of the
      field, the number people/aircraft and the activities, it might be a little sketchy
      to meed certain requirements.  Again, little park fliers probably would
      not even be noticed by most, but before everyone packs up and hauls their 100+mph
      3D stunt fliers out to corn country, we might need to think about this for
      a minute.  
      
      As for the FAA, you are correct that it is an uncontrolled field, but if something
      were to happen that resulted in the loss of life or property (yes, it has
      happened with R/C), then I'm sure there would be agencies descending on the field
      to sort things out.  
      
      Call me a worry wart... just making a few observations.
      
      --------
      Mark Chouinard
      Wings, Center Section and Empannage and Fuse framed up - Working on Landing Gear
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376851#376851
      
      
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      1) There's an FAA employee hangared at C37.  I've met him.
      2) The people who run the airport would be the ones to ask.
      
      do not archive
      
      --------
      Kevin "Axel" Purtee
      NX899KP
      Austin/San Marcos, TX
      
      
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      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376854#376854
      
      
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      kevinpurtee wrote:
      > 1) There's an FAA employee hangared at C37.  I've met him.
      > 2) The people who run the airport would be the ones to ask.
      > 
      > do not archive
      
      
      I agree with item #2... actually, I'll agree with item #1 too, although I have
      no idea who you are talking about.  :-)
      
      --------
      Mark Chouinard
      Wings, Center Section and Empannage and Fuse framed up - Working on Landing Gear
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
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      Just a survey is all 
      
      Sent from my iPhone
      
      On Jun 29, 2012, at 8:50 AM, Amsafetyc <amsafetyc@aol.com> wrote:
      
      > 
      > Is anyone bringing or considering bringing and flying RC aircraft at Brodhead?
      
      > 
      > John
      > 
      > Sent from my iPhone
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Bill's taxiing!! | 
      
      
      Actually, kind of boring for most I'm sure - but here's a YouTube address;
      
      http://youtu.be/_bI6tOxNJtg
      
      (I don't know why Youtube creates these funny addresses)
      
      --------
      Please check with Larry "TC" Williams before archiving, otherwise,
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| Subject:  | re:Pietenpol fly In at Brodhead | 
      
      
      We, all Pietenpol enthusiasts, builders, flyers, visitors, etc., are 
      guests of EAA Chapter 431, who own the airport. As guests, we should 
      always be thankful the chapter allows the Pietenpol Association to have 
      the Fly In every year.
      
      In all the years I've been attending,I don't recall any model airplanes 
      being flown during the Fly In.
      
      Model airplanes may be an individuals passion, but the vast majority who 
      attend every year come to see our Pietenpol friends, admire their 
      airplane, enjoy the camaraderie and go away having had an enjoyable 
      time.  We do not go to see model airplanes.
      
      look forward to seeing  you all at Brodhead
      
      P. F. Beck
      Barnwell, S. C.
      
      ps.... when you pick up your name tags, please give Dee and Doc a big 
      thank you for all they do in putting out an excellent newsletter
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Bill's taxiing!! | 
      
      
      Sharp Ship, Sir!!  The video might be boring for most, but we (certainly, I) aren't
      "most"!  I'm glad to see that your engine seems to be running well.  Hopefully
      it can be adjusted for a more reliable idle!  Has starting improved as it
      has begun to break in and loosen up?
      
      --------
      Brett Phillips
      PLEASE DO NOT ARCHIVE!
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Bill's taxiing!! | 
      
      
      It's on youtube...
      
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bI6tOxNJtg&list=UUSczfsX0FNbm-liwVgMkZAQ&index=1&feature=plcp
      
      do not archive
      
      On 06/29/2012 11:39 AM, Lawrence Williams wrote:
      > I just got a video of Bill Sayre taxiing his brand spanking new
      > Pietenpol Air Camper ( and it's a REAL one) on the ramp at Gig Harbor.
      > I've encouraged him to post a link on this site.
      >
      > It's refreshing to see a to-the-plans Piet with no apologies for
      > supposed "necessary" changes. Bill followed the plans, got through the
      > model "A" conversion and teething problems and now has a 1930's replica
      > of an American icon.
      >
      > Maybe the BPA will see fit to put this one on the cover someday and be
      > able to correctly label it as a Pietenpol Air Camper!!
      >
      > Larry (TC) Williams
      >
      > do not archive
      >
      > *
      >
      >
      > *
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Bill's taxiing!! | 
      
      
      Thanks Brett,
      
      Engine has just over 7.5 hours now and starts and runs much better.  It is still
      stiff after running to the point that I doubt I could get enough of a full swing
      to get it to start until it has cooled a bit (no more than an hour) and I
      havent adjusted the 'curb idle' to limit the throttle linkage at the idle end
      yet so if it gets too slow the friction seems to take over and it cant pop through
      every stroke  at least thats my excuse.  It does seem to stumble a bit from
      low idle if the throttle is advanced too quickly and Ill play with timing
      since I havent found a way to adjust the mixture on a Zenith 'B' carburetor.
      
      I would characterize my ships ground handling as very responsive.  Some might say
      twitchy but I find it very honest.  If you stomp on the rudder bar youll be
      going for a ride, but if you just give it a bit it will turn without increasing
      or decreasing the radius of the turn.  I was really fortunate in that the airport
      had cleared the ramp of tied down planes to get ready for the holiday festival
      activities so I had all that room.
      
      Bill
      
      --------
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| Subject:  | Re: re:Pietenpol fly In at Brodhead | 
      
      Well put P.F.....
      
      There are people milling about, near the airplanes and back and forth
      across the field....real airplanes on the ground (static, and taxiing
      around), in the air....not exactly a safe, proper environment to be flying
      RC stuff.
      
      Additionally, Joe Smith may be a very competent RC pilot who can skillfully
      control his airplane; but if he gets to fly, so does Joe Schmuckatelli, who
      thinks he is a hotshot pilot but is not. So when he loses control and slams
      his Ugly Stik into an airplane, a building, people.....things would get
      ugly real fast. :)
      
      Real airplanes for real airplane fly-ins, RC airplanes for RC airplane
      fly-ins.
      
      Ryan
      
      On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 3:43 PM, Barnwell Regional Airport <
      barnwellairport@bellsouth.net> wrote:
      
      > **
      >
      > We, all Pietenpol enthusiasts, builders, flyers, visitors, etc., are
      > guests of EAA Chapter 431, who own the airport. As guests, we should always
      > be thankful the chapter allows the Pietenpol Association to have the Fly In
      > every year.
      >
      > In all the years I've been attending,I don't recall any model airplanes
      > being flown during the Fly In.
      >
      > Model airplanes may be an individuals passion, but the vast majority who
      > attend every year come to see our Pietenpol friends, admire their airplane,
      > enjoy the camaraderie and go away having had an enjoyable time.  We do not
      > go to see model airplanes.
      >
      > look forward to seeing  you all at Brodhead
      >
      > P. F. Beck
      > Barnwell, S. C.
      >
      > ps.... when you pick up your name tags, please give Dee and Doc a big
      > thank you for all they do in putting out an excellent newsletter
      >
      > *
      >
      > *
      >
      >
      
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| Subject:  | I've bought a Piet! | 
      
      
      Hi Guys,
      
      I have just bought Dale McCleskey's Piet and am presently trying to ship it
      to Australia.
      
      I have a local shipping agent here in Australia dealing with it but I need
      some help with the packing. It will need to be packed in a 20 foot
      container.
      
      The aircraft is presently disassembled in Braggs OK. The shipper has a
      packer in Florida and another in San Francisco. Both are a bit far from
      Braggs!
      
      Does anybody know of a packer closer to Braggs that could pack the Piet in
      the container for me?
      
      Many thanks
      
      Peter
      Wonthaggi Australia
      http://www.cpc-world.com
      
      
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| Subject:  | I've bought a Piet! | 
      
      
      Peter,
      
      Just couldn't stay away, could you?!! ;-)  I wish I was closer to help
      out...that would be a fun project!
      
      Gary Boothe
      NX308MB
      Do not archive
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Peter W
      Johnson
      Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 4:17 PM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: I've bought a Piet!
      
      --> <vk3eka@bigpond.net.au>
      
      Hi Guys,
      
      I have just bought Dale McCleskey's Piet and am presently trying to ship it
      to Australia.
      
      I have a local shipping agent here in Australia dealing with it but I need
      some help with the packing. It will need to be packed in a 20 foot
      container.
      
      The aircraft is presently disassembled in Braggs OK. The shipper has a
      packer in Florida and another in San Francisco. Both are a bit far from
      Braggs!
      
      Does anybody know of a packer closer to Braggs that could pack the Piet in
      the container for me?
      
      Many thanks
      
      Peter
      Wonthaggi Australia
      http://www.cpc-world.com
      
      
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      I did the requisite matronics search and found a few vague references to
      some generic covering materials. Does anyone have a specific product or
      supplier that they like?
      
      
      Gary Boothe
      
      NX308MB
      
      
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| Subject:  | I've bought a Piet! | 
      
      
      Gary,
      
      I've been watching too many YouTube movies......
      
      Cheers
      
      Peter
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Boothe
      Sent: Saturday, 30 June 2012 9:35 AM
      Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: I've bought a Piet!
      
      --> <gboothe5@comcast.net>
      
      Peter,
      
      Just couldn't stay away, could you?!! ;-)  I wish I was closer to help
      out...that would be a fun project!
      
      Gary Boothe
      NX308MB
      Do not archive
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Peter W
      Johnson
      Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 4:17 PM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: I've bought a Piet!
      
      --> <vk3eka@bigpond.net.au>
      
      Hi Guys,
      
      I have just bought Dale McCleskey's Piet and am presently trying to ship it
      to Australia.
      
      I have a local shipping agent here in Australia dealing with it but I need
      some help with the packing. It will need to be packed in a 20 foot
      container.
      
      The aircraft is presently disassembled in Braggs OK. The shipper has a
      packer in Florida and another in San Francisco. Both are a bit far from
      Braggs!
      
      Does anybody know of a packer closer to Braggs that could pack the Piet in
      the container for me?
      
      Many thanks
      
      Peter
      Wonthaggi Australia
      http://www.cpc-world.com
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Cockpit Covers | 
      
      
      We used oiled duck cloth, and I made them.  3 recommendations if you choose to
      go that direction...
      1.  wash the fabric first.  
      2.  use vinegar in the wash load in order to set the dye
      3.  use scotch guard to help repel water (for us it only gets wet at Brodhead)
      
      --------
      Shelley Tumino
      IT Girl
      wife of "Axel"
      NX899KP
      
      DO NOT ARCHIVE
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376882#376882
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: re:Pietenpol fly In at Brodhead | 
      
      Ryan=0A=0AHe did say he "Wasn't bringing them to fly there, they're just ta
      gging along on a relocation sort of event."=0A=0A....and I didn't hear any 
      one complain about the beer brewing equipment ;) Let's argue the legality a
      nd of brewing beer around "real airplanes" at an event on airport property.
      =0A=0AMaybe some one could bring one of those dangerous old flywheels with 
      out guards to crush the grain, that would be great!=0A=0ARyan Michals=0A=0A
      Do not archive=0A=0A--=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A F
      rom: Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com>=0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
       =0ASent: Friday, June 29, 2012 7:00 PM=0ASubject: Re: Pietenpol-List: re:P
      ietenpol fly In at Brodhead=0A =0A=0AWell put P.F.....=0A=0AThere are peopl
      e milling about, near the airplanes and back and forth across the field....
      real airplanes on the ground (static, and taxiing around), in the air....no
      t exactly a safe, proper environment to be flying RC stuff. =0A=0AAdditiona
      lly, Joe Smith may be a very competent RC pilot who can skillfully control 
      his airplane; but if he gets to fly, so does Joe Schmuckatelli, who thinks 
      he is a hotshot pilot but is not. So when he loses control and slams his Ug
      ly Stik into an airplane, a building, people.....things would get ugly real
       fast. :)=0A=0AReal airplanes for real airplane fly-ins, RC airplanes for R
      C airplane fly-ins.=0A=0ARyan=0A=0A=0AOn Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 3:43 PM, Barn
      well Regional Airport <barnwellairport@bellsouth.net> wrote:=0A=0A =0A>-
      =0A>We, all Pietenpol enthusiasts, builders, flyers, =0Avisitors, etc., are
       guests of EAA Chapter 431, who own the airport. As guests, =0Awe should al
      ways be thankful-the chapter allows the Pietenpol Association =0Ato have 
      the Fly In every year.=0A>-=0A>In all the years I've been attending,I don
      't recall =0Aany model airplanes being flown during the Fly In.=0A>-=0A>M
      odel airplanes may be an individuals passion, but =0Athe vast majority who 
      attend every year come to see our Pietenpol friends, =0Aadmire their airpla
      ne, enjoy the camaraderie and go away having had an enjoyable =0Atime. -W
      e do not go to see model airplanes.=0A>-=0A>look forward to seeing -you
       all at =0ABrodhead=0A>-=0A>P. F. Beck=0A>Barnwell, S. C.=0A>-=0A>ps...
      . when you pick up your name tags, please give =0ADee and Doc a big thank y
      ou-for all they do in putting out an excellent =0Anewsletter=0A>" target
      ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List=0Atp://forums
      ============== 
      
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| Subject:  | Re: re:Pietenpol fly In at Brodhead | 
      
      Thankfully WI allows the sale of pre-brewed beer....far less hassle....  :)
      
      Ryan
      
      do not archive
      
      On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 6:58 PM, Ryan M <aircamperace@yahoo.com> wrote:
      
      > Ryan
      >
      > He did say he "Wasn't bringing them to fly there, they're just tagging
      > along on a relocation sort of event."
      >
      > ....and I didn't hear any one complain about the beer brewing equipment ;)
      > Let's argue the legality and of brewing beer around "real airplanes" at an
      > event on airport property.
      >
      > Maybe some one could bring one of those dangerous old flywheels with out
      > guards to crush the grain, that would be great!
      >
      > Ryan Michals
      >
      > Do not archive
      >
      >
      >   ------------------------------
      > *From:* Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com>
      > *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      > *Sent:* Friday, June 29, 2012 7:00 PM
      > *Subject:* Re: Pietenpol-List: re:Pietenpol fly In at Brodhead
      >
      > Well put P.F.....
      >
      > There are people milling about, near the airplanes and back and forth
      > across the field....real airplanes on the ground (static, and taxiing
      > around), in the air....not exactly a safe, proper environment to be flying
      > RC stuff.
      >
      > Additionally, Joe Smith may be a very competent RC pilot who can
      > skillfully control his airplane; but if he gets to fly, so does Joe
      > Schmuckatelli, who thinks he is a hotshot pilot but is not. So when he
      > loses control and slams his Ugly Stik into an airplane, a building,
      > people.....things would get ugly real fast. :)
      >
      > Real airplanes for real airplane fly-ins, RC airplanes for RC airplane
      > fly-ins.
      >
      > Ryan
      >
      > On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 3:43 PM, Barnwell Regional Airport <
      > barnwellairport@bellsouth.net> wrote:
      >
      > **
      >
      > We, all Pietenpol enthusiasts, builders, flyers, visitors, etc., are
      > guests of EAA Chapter 431, who own the airport. As guests, we should always
      > be thankful the chapter allows the Pietenpol Association to have the Fly In
      > every year.
      >
      > In all the years I've been attending,I don't recall any model airplanes
      > being flown during the Fly In.
      >
      > Model airplanes may be an individuals passion, but the vast majority who
      > attend every year come to see our Pietenpol friends, admire their airplane,
      > enjoy the camaraderie and go away having had an enjoyable time.  We do not
      > go to see model airplanes.
      >
      > look forward to seeing  you all at Brodhead
      >
      > P. F. Beck
      > Barnwell, S. C.
      >
      > ps.... when you pick up your name tags, please give Dee and Doc a big
      > thank you for all they do in putting out an excellent newsletter
      >
      > *
      >
      > " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
      > tp://forums.matronics.com
      > _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
      > *
      >
      >
      > *http://www.matronics.com/=======================
      > =
      > *
      >
      >
      >   *
      >
      > *
      >
      >
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Cockpit Covers | 
      
      
      I know I am way ahead of myself here but I was considering using Sunbrella. 
      I had a boat cover made with it and it sure is holding up well.
      
      --------
      John Francis
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376886#376886
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: I've bought a Piet! | 
      
      
      You beauty Peter! At this rate we will be having our own Brodhed right here in
      Aussie in a few years. There are going to be a good number flying here in the
      coming years! Email the details, is it a project or a flyer?
      
      Very excited for you!
      
      Scotty
      
      Do not archive
      
      --------
      Tamworth, Australia
      Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper
      
      www.scottyspietenpol.com
      
      Rudder, Vert stab, Elevators, Hor Stab and Ribs built...About to start fuselage...Corvair
      engine at Roy's Garage waiting to be modified.
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376887#376887
      
      
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      Gary,
      I used the best vinyl I could get from the local fabric shop, on Felix. Used Turn
      Button Fasteners on the front pit and just snaps on the back pit, I never fly
      with the back pit covered.
      Skip
      
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Gary Boothe 
      Sent: 6/29/2012 7:40:17 PM 
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Cockpit Covers
      
      
      I did the requisite matronics search and found a few vague references to some generic
      covering materials. Does anyone have a specific product or supplier that
      they like?
      
      Gary Boothe
      NX308MB
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Bill's taxiing!! | 
      
      
      Way to go Bill.....!!  You made lightning fast progress without that nasty thing
      called "work" to slow you down......
      
      --------
      Jake Schultz - curator,
      Newport Way Air Museum  (OK, it's just my home)
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376892#376892
      
      
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      Good idea about the turn buttons, Skip! I had those on my old MGA many years
      ago, but didn't know what they were called.
      
      
      Of course, I don't have any PIC time in a Piet, yet, but I fully expect to
      not fly with the rear cockpit covered, either. :-l
      
      
      Gary Boothe
      
      NX308MB
      
      Do not archive
      
      
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
      skipgadd@earthlink.net
      Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 7:23 PM
      Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Cockpit Covers
      
      
      Gary,
      
      I used the best vinyl I could get from the local fabric shop, on Felix. Used
      Turn Button Fasteners on the front pit and just snaps on the back pit, I
      never fly with the back pit covered.
      
      Skip
      
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      
      From: Gary Boothe <mailto:gboothe5@comcast.net>  
      
      
      Sent: 6/29/2012 7:40:17 PM 
      
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Cockpit Covers
      
      
      I did the requisite matronics search and found a few vague references to
      some generic covering materials. Does anyone have a specific product or
      supplier that they like?
      
      
      Gary Boothe
      
      NX308MB
      
      
      <> 
      
      
 
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