Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Fri 06/29/12


Total Messages Posted: 33



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     1. 03:49 AM - Re: Exaust stack,Brodhead (Jack Phillips)
     2. 04:25 AM - Re: Exaust stack,Brodhead (helspersew@aol.com)
     3. 05:50 AM - RC (Amsafetyc)
     4. 06:07 AM - Re: Exaust stack,Brodhead (Hans van der Voort)
     5. 06:20 AM - Re: Exaust stack,Brodhead (AircamperN11MS)
     6. 06:29 AM - Re: RC (tools)
     7. 06:43 AM - Shad's exhaust (Douwe Blumberg)
     8. 07:04 AM - Re: Exaust stack,Brodhead (steve@wotelectronics.com)
     9. 08:28 AM - Re: RC (K5YAC)
    10. 08:55 AM - Re: RC (tools)
    11. 09:39 AM - Bill's taxiing!! (Lawrence Williams)
    12. 10:33 AM - Re: RC (K5YAC)
    13. 11:10 AM - Re: RC (kevinpurtee)
    14. 11:24 AM - Re: RC (K5YAC)
    15. 12:08 PM - Re: RC (Amsafetyc)
    16. 12:32 PM - Re: Bill's taxiing!! (BYD)
    17. 12:43 PM - Re:Pietenpol fly In at Brodhead (Barnwell Regional Airport)
    18. 01:42 PM - Re: Bill's taxiing!! (DO NOT ARCHIVE)
    19. 01:49 PM - Re: Bill's taxiing!! (Dan Yocum)
    20. 03:58 PM - Re: Bill's taxiing!! (BYD)
    21. 04:00 PM - Re: Re:Pietenpol fly In at Brodhead (Ryan Mueller)
    22. 04:17 PM - I've bought a Piet! (Peter W Johnson)
    23. 04:35 PM - Re: I've bought a Piet! (Gary Boothe)
    24. 04:39 PM - Cockpit Covers (Gary Boothe)
    25. 04:44 PM - Re: I've bought a Piet! (Peter W Johnson)
    26. 04:50 PM - Re: Cockpit Covers (IT Girl)
    27. 04:58 PM - Re: Re:Pietenpol fly In at Brodhead (Ryan M)
    28. 05:16 PM - Re: Re:Pietenpol fly In at Brodhead (Ryan Mueller)
    29. 05:36 PM - Re: Cockpit Covers (John Francis)
    30. 05:37 PM - Re: I've bought a Piet! (bubbleboy)
    31. 07:25 PM - Re: Cockpit Covers (skipgadd@earthlink.net)
    32. 07:29 PM - Re: Bill's taxiing!! (aerocarjake)
    33. 07:34 PM - Re: Cockpit Covers (Gary Boothe)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:49:51 AM PST US
    From: "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Exaust stack,Brodhead
    Shad, My original exhaust system was stainless. After it cracked for the fourth time I replaced it with a mild steel set, which has held up for 5 years and 200+ hours of flying. I take it off every 3 years, beadblast it and paint it with clear VHT paint. Works fine. Jack Phillips NX899JP Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of shad bell Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 10:01 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Exaust stack,Brodhead Well, Fell'ers I might try Brodhead if I get the Thurs and following Monday off. Dad is probably going to sit this one out (even though he has the cofortable sleeping quarters). I have to weld up a new exaust for the r/h side with a heat muff for the carb heat. It has cracked once before, on our 1st time at Brodhead, that weld repair has reached it's end of its usefull life. Dad ordered the flanges, now I need to get the tubing. The current exaust is stainless, I was wondering how long anyone out there's mild steel exausts are holding up. I can weld mild steel, never tried much stainless (I got 8 hrs out of my last exaust repair using acetylene and mild steel rod). I might just pay the welder across the street to weld a stainless stack with his TIG after I cut out all the parts, but I am stuborn and like to do it myself. Also wondering if anyone here has ceramicoated there mild steel exaust pipes, and how expensive it is. Hope to see you all in a few weeks, Shad Do not archive


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    Time: 04:25:21 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Exaust stack,Brodhead
    From: helspersew@aol.com
    Shad, I TIG welded my mild steel exhaust, then chrome-plated. I was told that thi s is a big no-no because it will pre-maturely crack. Anybody that is knowle dgeable (or just thinks they are knowledgeable, or has heard of anyone bein g knowledgeable) please feel free to chime in on this subject. Dan Helsper Puryear, TN -----Original Message----- From: shad bell <aviatorbell@yahoo.com> Sent: Thu, Jun 28, 2012 9:03 pm Subject: Pietenpol-List: Exaust stack,Brodhead Well, Fell'ers I might try Brodhead if I get the Thurs and following Monday off. Dad is probably going to sit this one out (even though he has the co fortable sleeping quarters). I have to weld up a new exaust for the r/h si de with a heat muff for the carb heat. It has cracked once before, on our 1st time at Brodhead, that weld repair has reached it's end of its usefull life. Dad ordered the flanges, now I need to get the tubing. The current exaust is stainless, I was wondering how long anyone out there's mild steel exausts are holding up. I can weld mild steel, never tried much stainless (I got 8 hrs out of my last exaust repair using acetylene and mild steel r od). I might just pay the welder across the street to weld a stainless sta ck with his TIG after I cut out all the parts, but I am stuborn and like to do it myself. Also wondering if anyone here has ceramicoated there mild s teel exaust pipes, and how expensive it is. Hope to see you all in a few weeks, Shad Do not archive


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    Time: 05:50:37 AM PST US
    Subject: RC
    From: Amsafetyc <amsafetyc@aol.com>
    Is anyone bringing or considering bringing and flying RC aircraft at Brodhead? John Sent from my iPhone


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    Time: 06:07:07 AM PST US
    From: Hans van der Voort <nx15kv@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Exaust stack,Brodhead
    Shad,=0A-=0AI replaced mine last month, the carbon steel finally rusted t hrough after 7 years.=0AAlthough I could have patched it, the hole was at t he last turn right below the cowling.=0AThe rest of the Exhaust was still i n good shape.=0AI sand blasted and painted them with VHT. =0A-=0ANew exha ust is WW stainless, but modified to change a few angles to clear motor mou nt.=0A-=0AHans=0AWaller, TX=0ANX15KV=0A =0A=0A___________________________ _____=0A From: shad bell <aviatorbell@yahoo.com>=0ATo: pietenpol-list@matro nics.com =0ASent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 9:01 PM=0ASubject: Pietenpol-List : Exaust stack,Brodhead=0A =0AWell, Fell'ers I might try Brodhead if I ge t the Thurs and following Monday off.- Dad is probably going to sit this one out (even though he has the cofortable sleeping quarters).- I have to weld up a new exaust for the r/h side with a heat muff for the carb heat. - It has cracked once before, on our 1st time at Brodhead, that weld repa ir has reached it's end of its usefull life.- Dad ordered the flanges, no w I need to get the tubing.- The current exaust is stainless, I was wonde ring how long anyone out there's mild steel exausts are holding up.- I ca n weld mild steel, never tried much stainless (I got 8 hrs out of my last e xaust repair using acetylene and mild steel rod).- I might just pay the w elder across the street to weld a stainless stack with his TIG-after I cu t out all the parts, but I am stuborn and like to do it myself.- Also won dering if anyone here has ceramicoated there mild steel exaust pipes, and h ow expensive it is. =0A=0AHope to see you all in a few weeks, =0AShad =0ADo ======================


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    Time: 06:20:44 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Exaust stack,Brodhead
    From: "AircamperN11MS" <Scott.liefeld@lacity.org>
    Mild steel on mine for the past 30 years. Has never cracked. -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Brodhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376835#376835


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    Time: 06:29:35 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: RC
    From: "tools" <n0kkj@yahoo.com>
    I'll have some control line models... and beer brewing equipment! Wasn't bringing them to fly there, they're just tagging along on a relocation sort of event. It's an ugly old thing (a modified Sig Banshee built in '91 and '05) but it'll do the entire PAMPA stunt pattern easily. Also will have a Carl Goldberg Buster built for Foxberg racing that I use as a trainer. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376836#376836


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    Time: 06:43:43 AM PST US
    From: "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Shad's exhaust
    Shad, my advice to you is to confess and repent of your stubbornness, have your tig welder across the street weld your stainless exhaust and spend your time gettin' her ready for Brodhead where we can all appreciate her!! $.02 Douwe Do not archive


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    Time: 07:04:08 AM PST US
    From: steve@wotelectronics.com
    Subject: Re: Exaust stack,Brodhead
    Shad, A couple years ago I replaced my old mild steel stacks (they were modified Aeronca) as they had deteriorated. I made mild steel straight stacks then had them ceramic coated by a local shop, it cost $100 for all four. They charged by the foot, and mine are about 15" long I believe, so the rate must've been about $20/foot. The ceramic coating looks great, like bare, fresh metal and I'd guess they'll look this good for at least 15 years, the ceramic coating is very durable. The challenge will be protecting the coating from getting scuffed by the heat muff. I'd like to try using small amounts of fiberglass header wrap between the muff and exhaust to keep them from getting scratched. Hope this helps, let me know if you have any questions. Steve Ruse Norman, OK On 2012-06-28 21:01, shad bell wrote: > Well, Fell'ers I might try Brodhead if I get the Thurs and following Monday off. Dad is probably going to sit this one out (even though he has the cofortable sleeping quarters). I have to weld up a new exaust for the r/h side with a heat muff for the carb heat. It has cracked once before, on our 1st time at Brodhead, that weld repair has reached it's end of its usefull life. Dad ordered the flanges, now I need to get the tubing. The current exaust is stainless, I was wondering how long anyone out there's mild steel exausts are holding up. I can weld mild steel, never tried much stainless (I got 8 hrs out of my last exaust repair using acetylene and mild steel rod). I might just pay the welder across the street to weld a stainless stack with his TIG after I cut out all the parts, but I am stuborn and like to do it myself. Also wondering if anyone here has ceramicoated there mild steel exaust pipes, and how expensive it is. > > Hope to see you all in a few weeks, > Shad > Do not archive > > HTTP://WWW.MATRONICS.COM/CONTRIBUTION


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    Time: 08:28:29 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: RC
    From: "K5YAC" <hangar10@cox.net>
    Not sure how the AMA or the FAA might look at those activities. The little park fliers are one thing, and could probably be safely confined to a corner of the field, but hot little nitro burners are probably another issue. If it is just a show and tell... I'll bring some photos. As for flying... a little risky given the other activities that will be going on. -------- Mark Chouinard Wings, Center Section and Empannage and Fuse framed up - Working on Landing Gear Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376841#376841


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    Time: 08:55:04 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: RC
    From: "tools" <n0kkj@yahoo.com>
    It's an uncontrolled airfield, so the FAA shouldn't care. I"ve flown at uncontrolled (and closed controlled) fields a lot over the years. The AMA has no jurisdiction whatsoever. Control line uses a hemisphere 120 feet in diameter. Radio control has a reasonable chance of a fly away whether it's electric or gas, so Mark is right, somewhat risky. However, there's times when no planes are airborne. The main issue would be to coordinate any RC activity to prevent interference. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376844#376844


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    Time: 09:39:53 AM PST US
    From: Lawrence Williams <lnawms@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Bill's taxiing!!
    I just got a video of Bill Sayre taxiing his brand spanking new Pietenpol Air Camper ( and it's a REAL one) on the ramp at Gig Harbor. I've encouraged him to post a link on this site. It's refreshing to see a to-the-plans Piet with no apologies for supposed "necessary" changes. Bill followed the plans, got through the model "A" conversion and teething problems and now has a 1930's replica of an American icon. Maybe the BPA will see fit to put this one on the cover someday and be able to correctly label it as a Pietenpol Air Camper!! Larry (TC) Williams do not archive


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    Time: 10:33:45 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: RC
    From: "K5YAC" <hangar10@cox.net>
    Jurisdiction is not the issue... it is a matter of safety and liability (insurance requirements). If you have any history at all with the AMA, you would know where I am coming from. There are ways to do this, but given the size of the field, the number people/aircraft and the activities, it might be a little sketchy to meed certain requirements. Again, little park fliers probably would not even be noticed by most, but before everyone packs up and hauls their 100+mph 3D stunt fliers out to corn country, we might need to think about this for a minute. As for the FAA, you are correct that it is an uncontrolled field, but if something were to happen that resulted in the loss of life or property (yes, it has happened with R/C), then I'm sure there would be agencies descending on the field to sort things out. Call me a worry wart... just making a few observations. -------- Mark Chouinard Wings, Center Section and Empannage and Fuse framed up - Working on Landing Gear Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376851#376851


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    Time: 11:10:56 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: RC
    From: "kevinpurtee" <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
    1) There's an FAA employee hangared at C37. I've met him. 2) The people who run the airport would be the ones to ask. do not archive -------- Kevin &quot;Axel&quot; Purtee NX899KP Austin/San Marcos, TX Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376854#376854


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    Time: 11:24:00 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: RC
    From: "K5YAC" <hangar10@cox.net>
    kevinpurtee wrote: > 1) There's an FAA employee hangared at C37. I've met him. > 2) The people who run the airport would be the ones to ask. > > do not archive I agree with item #2... actually, I'll agree with item #1 too, although I have no idea who you are talking about. :-) -------- Mark Chouinard Wings, Center Section and Empannage and Fuse framed up - Working on Landing Gear Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376856#376856


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    Time: 12:08:34 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: RC
    From: Amsafetyc <amsafetyc@aol.com>
    Just a survey is all Sent from my iPhone On Jun 29, 2012, at 8:50 AM, Amsafetyc <amsafetyc@aol.com> wrote: > > Is anyone bringing or considering bringing and flying RC aircraft at Brodhead? > > John > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >


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    Time: 12:32:32 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Bill's taxiing!!
    From: "BYD" <billsayre@ymail.com>
    Actually, kind of boring for most I'm sure - but here's a YouTube address; http://youtu.be/_bI6tOxNJtg (I don't know why Youtube creates these funny addresses) -------- Please check with Larry &quot;TC&quot; Williams before archiving, otherwise, DO NOT ARCHIVE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376861#376861


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    Time: 12:43:35 PM PST US
    From: "Barnwell Regional Airport" <barnwellairport@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: re:Pietenpol fly In at Brodhead
    We, all Pietenpol enthusiasts, builders, flyers, visitors, etc., are guests of EAA Chapter 431, who own the airport. As guests, we should always be thankful the chapter allows the Pietenpol Association to have the Fly In every year. In all the years I've been attending,I don't recall any model airplanes being flown during the Fly In. Model airplanes may be an individuals passion, but the vast majority who attend every year come to see our Pietenpol friends, admire their airplane, enjoy the camaraderie and go away having had an enjoyable time. We do not go to see model airplanes. look forward to seeing you all at Brodhead P. F. Beck Barnwell, S. C. ps.... when you pick up your name tags, please give Dee and Doc a big thank you for all they do in putting out an excellent newsletter


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    Time: 01:42:47 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Bill's taxiing!!
    From: "DO NOT ARCHIVE" <bphillip@SHENTEL.NET>
    Sharp Ship, Sir!! The video might be boring for most, but we (certainly, I) aren't "most"! I'm glad to see that your engine seems to be running well. Hopefully it can be adjusted for a more reliable idle! Has starting improved as it has begun to break in and loosen up? -------- Brett Phillips PLEASE DO NOT ARCHIVE! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376866#376866


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    Time: 01:49:52 PM PST US
    From: Dan Yocum <yocum137@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Bill's taxiing!!
    It's on youtube... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bI6tOxNJtg&list=UUSczfsX0FNbm-liwVgMkZAQ&index=1&feature=plcp do not archive On 06/29/2012 11:39 AM, Lawrence Williams wrote: > I just got a video of Bill Sayre taxiing his brand spanking new > Pietenpol Air Camper ( and it's a REAL one) on the ramp at Gig Harbor. > I've encouraged him to post a link on this site. > > It's refreshing to see a to-the-plans Piet with no apologies for > supposed "necessary" changes. Bill followed the plans, got through the > model "A" conversion and teething problems and now has a 1930's replica > of an American icon. > > Maybe the BPA will see fit to put this one on the cover someday and be > able to correctly label it as a Pietenpol Air Camper!! > > Larry (TC) Williams > > do not archive > > * > > > *


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    Time: 03:58:11 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Bill's taxiing!!
    From: "BYD" <billsayre@ymail.com>
    Thanks Brett, Engine has just over 7.5 hours now and starts and runs much better. It is still stiff after running to the point that I doubt I could get enough of a full swing to get it to start until it has cooled a bit (no more than an hour) and I havent adjusted the 'curb idle' to limit the throttle linkage at the idle end yet so if it gets too slow the friction seems to take over and it cant pop through every stroke at least thats my excuse. It does seem to stumble a bit from low idle if the throttle is advanced too quickly and Ill play with timing since I havent found a way to adjust the mixture on a Zenith 'B' carburetor. I would characterize my ships ground handling as very responsive. Some might say twitchy but I find it very honest. If you stomp on the rudder bar youll be going for a ride, but if you just give it a bit it will turn without increasing or decreasing the radius of the turn. I was really fortunate in that the airport had cleared the ramp of tied down planes to get ready for the holiday festival activities so I had all that room. Bill -------- Please check with Larry &quot;TC&quot; Williams before archiving, otherwise, DO NOT ARCHIVE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376875#376875


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    Time: 04:00:32 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: re:Pietenpol fly In at Brodhead
    From: Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com>
    Well put P.F..... There are people milling about, near the airplanes and back and forth across the field....real airplanes on the ground (static, and taxiing around), in the air....not exactly a safe, proper environment to be flying RC stuff. Additionally, Joe Smith may be a very competent RC pilot who can skillfully control his airplane; but if he gets to fly, so does Joe Schmuckatelli, who thinks he is a hotshot pilot but is not. So when he loses control and slams his Ugly Stik into an airplane, a building, people.....things would get ugly real fast. :) Real airplanes for real airplane fly-ins, RC airplanes for RC airplane fly-ins. Ryan On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 3:43 PM, Barnwell Regional Airport < barnwellairport@bellsouth.net> wrote: > ** > > We, all Pietenpol enthusiasts, builders, flyers, visitors, etc., are > guests of EAA Chapter 431, who own the airport. As guests, we should always > be thankful the chapter allows the Pietenpol Association to have the Fly In > every year. > > In all the years I've been attending,I don't recall any model airplanes > being flown during the Fly In. > > Model airplanes may be an individuals passion, but the vast majority who > attend every year come to see our Pietenpol friends, admire their airplane, > enjoy the camaraderie and go away having had an enjoyable time. We do not > go to see model airplanes. > > look forward to seeing you all at Brodhead > > P. F. Beck > Barnwell, S. C. > > ps.... when you pick up your name tags, please give Dee and Doc a big > thank you for all they do in putting out an excellent newsletter > > * > > * > >


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    Time: 04:17:39 PM PST US
    From: "Peter W Johnson" <vk3eka@bigpond.net.au>
    Subject: I've bought a Piet!
    Hi Guys, I have just bought Dale McCleskey's Piet and am presently trying to ship it to Australia. I have a local shipping agent here in Australia dealing with it but I need some help with the packing. It will need to be packed in a 20 foot container. The aircraft is presently disassembled in Braggs OK. The shipper has a packer in Florida and another in San Francisco. Both are a bit far from Braggs! Does anybody know of a packer closer to Braggs that could pack the Piet in the container for me? Many thanks Peter Wonthaggi Australia http://www.cpc-world.com


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    Time: 04:35:04 PM PST US
    From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
    Subject: I've bought a Piet!
    Peter, Just couldn't stay away, could you?!! ;-) I wish I was closer to help out...that would be a fun project! Gary Boothe NX308MB Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Peter W Johnson Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 4:17 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: I've bought a Piet! --> <vk3eka@bigpond.net.au> Hi Guys, I have just bought Dale McCleskey's Piet and am presently trying to ship it to Australia. I have a local shipping agent here in Australia dealing with it but I need some help with the packing. It will need to be packed in a 20 foot container. The aircraft is presently disassembled in Braggs OK. The shipper has a packer in Florida and another in San Francisco. Both are a bit far from Braggs! Does anybody know of a packer closer to Braggs that could pack the Piet in the container for me? Many thanks Peter Wonthaggi Australia http://www.cpc-world.com


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    Time: 04:39:21 PM PST US
    From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
    Subject: Cockpit Covers
    I did the requisite matronics search and found a few vague references to some generic covering materials. Does anyone have a specific product or supplier that they like? Gary Boothe NX308MB


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    Time: 04:44:00 PM PST US
    From: "Peter W Johnson" <vk3eka@bigpond.net.au>
    Subject: I've bought a Piet!
    Gary, I've been watching too many YouTube movies...... Cheers Peter -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Boothe Sent: Saturday, 30 June 2012 9:35 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: I've bought a Piet! --> <gboothe5@comcast.net> Peter, Just couldn't stay away, could you?!! ;-) I wish I was closer to help out...that would be a fun project! Gary Boothe NX308MB Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Peter W Johnson Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 4:17 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: I've bought a Piet! --> <vk3eka@bigpond.net.au> Hi Guys, I have just bought Dale McCleskey's Piet and am presently trying to ship it to Australia. I have a local shipping agent here in Australia dealing with it but I need some help with the packing. It will need to be packed in a 20 foot container. The aircraft is presently disassembled in Braggs OK. The shipper has a packer in Florida and another in San Francisco. Both are a bit far from Braggs! Does anybody know of a packer closer to Braggs that could pack the Piet in the container for me? Many thanks Peter Wonthaggi Australia http://www.cpc-world.com


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    Time: 04:50:26 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Cockpit Covers
    From: "IT Girl" <shlizbth@gmail.com>
    We used oiled duck cloth, and I made them. 3 recommendations if you choose to go that direction... 1. wash the fabric first. 2. use vinegar in the wash load in order to set the dye 3. use scotch guard to help repel water (for us it only gets wet at Brodhead) -------- Shelley Tumino IT Girl wife of &quot;Axel&quot; NX899KP DO NOT ARCHIVE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376882#376882


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    Time: 04:58:40 PM PST US
    From: Ryan M <aircamperace@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: re:Pietenpol fly In at Brodhead
    Ryan=0A=0AHe did say he "Wasn't bringing them to fly there, they're just ta gging along on a relocation sort of event."=0A=0A....and I didn't hear any one complain about the beer brewing equipment ;) Let's argue the legality a nd of brewing beer around "real airplanes" at an event on airport property. =0A=0AMaybe some one could bring one of those dangerous old flywheels with out guards to crush the grain, that would be great!=0A=0ARyan Michals=0A=0A Do not archive=0A=0A--=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A F rom: Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com>=0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Friday, June 29, 2012 7:00 PM=0ASubject: Re: Pietenpol-List: re:P ietenpol fly In at Brodhead=0A =0A=0AWell put P.F.....=0A=0AThere are peopl e milling about, near the airplanes and back and forth across the field.... real airplanes on the ground (static, and taxiing around), in the air....no t exactly a safe, proper environment to be flying RC stuff. =0A=0AAdditiona lly, Joe Smith may be a very competent RC pilot who can skillfully control his airplane; but if he gets to fly, so does Joe Schmuckatelli, who thinks he is a hotshot pilot but is not. So when he loses control and slams his Ug ly Stik into an airplane, a building, people.....things would get ugly real fast. :)=0A=0AReal airplanes for real airplane fly-ins, RC airplanes for R C airplane fly-ins.=0A=0ARyan=0A=0A=0AOn Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 3:43 PM, Barn well Regional Airport <barnwellairport@bellsouth.net> wrote:=0A=0A =0A>- =0A>We, all Pietenpol enthusiasts, builders, flyers, =0Avisitors, etc., are guests of EAA Chapter 431, who own the airport. As guests, =0Awe should al ways be thankful-the chapter allows the Pietenpol Association =0Ato have the Fly In every year.=0A>-=0A>In all the years I've been attending,I don 't recall =0Aany model airplanes being flown during the Fly In.=0A>-=0A>M odel airplanes may be an individuals passion, but =0Athe vast majority who attend every year come to see our Pietenpol friends, =0Aadmire their airpla ne, enjoy the camaraderie and go away having had an enjoyable =0Atime. -W e do not go to see model airplanes.=0A>-=0A>look forward to seeing -you all at =0ABrodhead=0A>-=0A>P. F. Beck=0A>Barnwell, S. C.=0A>-=0A>ps... . when you pick up your name tags, please give =0ADee and Doc a big thank y ou-for all they do in putting out an excellent =0Anewsletter=0A>" target ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List=0Atp://forums ==============


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    Time: 05:16:17 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: re:Pietenpol fly In at Brodhead
    From: Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com>
    Thankfully WI allows the sale of pre-brewed beer....far less hassle.... :) Ryan do not archive On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 6:58 PM, Ryan M <aircamperace@yahoo.com> wrote: > Ryan > > He did say he "Wasn't bringing them to fly there, they're just tagging > along on a relocation sort of event." > > ....and I didn't hear any one complain about the beer brewing equipment ;) > Let's argue the legality and of brewing beer around "real airplanes" at an > event on airport property. > > Maybe some one could bring one of those dangerous old flywheels with out > guards to crush the grain, that would be great! > > Ryan Michals > > Do not archive > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com> > *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com > *Sent:* Friday, June 29, 2012 7:00 PM > *Subject:* Re: Pietenpol-List: re:Pietenpol fly In at Brodhead > > Well put P.F..... > > There are people milling about, near the airplanes and back and forth > across the field....real airplanes on the ground (static, and taxiing > around), in the air....not exactly a safe, proper environment to be flying > RC stuff. > > Additionally, Joe Smith may be a very competent RC pilot who can > skillfully control his airplane; but if he gets to fly, so does Joe > Schmuckatelli, who thinks he is a hotshot pilot but is not. So when he > loses control and slams his Ugly Stik into an airplane, a building, > people.....things would get ugly real fast. :) > > Real airplanes for real airplane fly-ins, RC airplanes for RC airplane > fly-ins. > > Ryan > > On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 3:43 PM, Barnwell Regional Airport < > barnwellairport@bellsouth.net> wrote: > > ** > > We, all Pietenpol enthusiasts, builders, flyers, visitors, etc., are > guests of EAA Chapter 431, who own the airport. As guests, we should always > be thankful the chapter allows the Pietenpol Association to have the Fly In > every year. > > In all the years I've been attending,I don't recall any model airplanes > being flown during the Fly In. > > Model airplanes may be an individuals passion, but the vast majority who > attend every year come to see our Pietenpol friends, admire their airplane, > enjoy the camaraderie and go away having had an enjoyable time. We do not > go to see model airplanes. > > look forward to seeing you all at Brodhead > > P. F. Beck > Barnwell, S. C. > > ps.... when you pick up your name tags, please give Dee and Doc a big > thank you for all they do in putting out an excellent newsletter > > * > > " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > tp://forums.matronics.com > _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > * > > > *http://www.matronics.com/======================= > = > * > > > * > > * > >


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    Time: 05:36:15 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Cockpit Covers
    From: "John Francis" <Mrkringles@msn.com>
    I know I am way ahead of myself here but I was considering using Sunbrella. I had a boat cover made with it and it sure is holding up well. -------- John Francis Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376886#376886


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    Time: 05:37:59 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: I've bought a Piet!
    From: "bubbleboy" <scott.dawson3@bigpond.com>
    You beauty Peter! At this rate we will be having our own Brodhed right here in Aussie in a few years. There are going to be a good number flying here in the coming years! Email the details, is it a project or a flyer? Very excited for you! Scotty Do not archive -------- Tamworth, Australia Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper www.scottyspietenpol.com Rudder, Vert stab, Elevators, Hor Stab and Ribs built...About to start fuselage...Corvair engine at Roy's Garage waiting to be modified. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376887#376887


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    Time: 07:25:35 PM PST US
    From: "skipgadd@earthlink.net" <skipgadd@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Cockpit Covers
    Gary, I used the best vinyl I could get from the local fabric shop, on Felix. Used Turn Button Fasteners on the front pit and just snaps on the back pit, I never fly with the back pit covered. Skip ----- Original Message ----- From: Gary Boothe Sent: 6/29/2012 7:40:17 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Cockpit Covers I did the requisite matronics search and found a few vague references to some generic covering materials. Does anyone have a specific product or supplier that they like? Gary Boothe NX308MB


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    Time: 07:29:09 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Bill's taxiing!!
    From: "aerocarjake" <flight.jake@gmail.com>
    Way to go Bill.....!! You made lightning fast progress without that nasty thing called "work" to slow you down...... -------- Jake Schultz - curator, Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376892#376892


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    Time: 07:34:50 PM PST US
    From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
    Subject: Cockpit Covers
    Good idea about the turn buttons, Skip! I had those on my old MGA many years ago, but didn't know what they were called. Of course, I don't have any PIC time in a Piet, yet, but I fully expect to not fly with the rear cockpit covered, either. :-l Gary Boothe NX308MB Do not archive From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of skipgadd@earthlink.net Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 7:23 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Cockpit Covers Gary, I used the best vinyl I could get from the local fabric shop, on Felix. Used Turn Button Fasteners on the front pit and just snaps on the back pit, I never fly with the back pit covered. Skip ----- Original Message ----- From: Gary Boothe <mailto:gboothe5@comcast.net> Sent: 6/29/2012 7:40:17 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Cockpit Covers I did the requisite matronics search and found a few vague references to some generic covering materials. Does anyone have a specific product or supplier that they like? Gary Boothe NX308MB <>




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