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     2. 04:46 AM - Re: Cockpit Covers (helspersew@aol.com)
     3. 07:54 AM - Re: Bill's taxiing!! (K5YAC)
     4. 08:20 AM - Re: Cockpit Covers (Gary Boothe)
     5. 08:55 AM - Re: Exaust stack,Brodhead (shad bell)
     6. 09:05 AM - Re: I've bought a Piet! (K5YAC)
     7. 09:37 AM - Re: Re: I've bought a Piet! (Gary Boothe)
     8. 12:21 PM - Re: I've bought a Piet! (K5YAC)
     9. 01:38 PM - Re: Re: I've bought a Piet! (Gary Boothe)
    10. 01:56 PM - Re: Re: I've bought a Piet! (Kip and Beth Gardner)
    11. 01:58 PM - Re: Cockpit Covers (Gary Boothe)
    12. 03:39 PM - Re: Re:Pietenpol fly In at Brodhead (Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB)
    13. 04:07 PM - Re: Re: I've bought a Piet! (Peter W Johnson)
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      Gary,
      
      
      I used Sunbrella, (used sailcovers for sailboats, which are constantly
      exposed to sun and rain) which I bought at West Marine.
      http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?productId
      =107205
      <http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?productI
      d=107205&catalogId=10001&langId=-1&storeId=11151&storeNum=50821&subdeptNum=5
      0833&classNum=50834>
      &catalogId=10001&langId=-1&storeId=11151&storeNum=50821&subdeptNum=50833&cla
      ssNum=50834
      
      It is available in many colors - you're bound to find one that will go well
      with your color scheme.  They also sell snap grommet kits to apply the snaps
      to the fabric.
      
      
      My wife sewed mine for me and they have served me well for 8 years,
      including some horrendous thunderstorms at Brodhead.  And in the winter, I
      fly with the front cover in place to lesson the cold.  It seems to be about
      2 knots faster with the front 'pit covered.
      
      
      Jack Phillips
      
      NX899JP
      
      Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
      
      
        _____  
      
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Boothe
      Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 7:39 PM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Cockpit Covers
      
      
      I did the requisite matronics search and found a few vague references to
      some generic covering materials. Does anyone have a specific product or
      supplier that they like?
      
      
      Gary Boothe
      
      NX308MB
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Cockpit Covers | 
      
      
      Gary,
      
      The best type of material in my opinion, for a general airplane cover is vi
      nyl-coated (or laminated) polyester. This is essentially a sandwitch of vin
      yl/polyester/vinyl. Try to get the light stuff, maybe 10 oz. per sq. yard. 
      It comes in a wide variety of colors. The other materials suggested have th
      eir drawbacks. Canvas (cotton) is not dimensionally stable (shrinks and str
      etches) and sometimes is not color fast. Last year, for lack of time I just
       slobbed together those two yellow covers, made from vinyl-laminated polyes
      ter (see the current issue of BPA News). These were OK but wholly inadequat
      e for the rains we got last year at Brodhead. When the rain falls in the "t
      ray" area of the Model A installation, the water makes its way back and fil
      ls the fuselage. A few weeks back I made a simple rectangular cover that at
      taches in the front to the two prop blades with straps, covers the entire e
      ngine, center section, and rear cockpit, attaching to the fuse right behind
       the rear pit with straps that gird the underside of the fuse. This is now 
      standard equipment in my Piet traveling equipment. I actually used a fabric
       called Stamoid, which is a little lighter than what I mentioned above, but
       the stuff is prohibitively expensive. As I stated before, I would not reco
      mmend canvas of any sort, or Sunbrella (woven acrylic). I know the Sunbrell
      a is widely used for boat covers and awnings, but years ago I made a boat c
      over for my Dad;s pontoon, and I was not happy with the wearability (it wor
      e through at the corners pretty fast.) 
      I recently also fabricated a special front cockpit bag that snaps into plac
      e along the inside perimeter of the front pit, at the longeron level. When 
      you come to Brodhead I'll show you all of this stuff I am mentioning. If th
      e covers you want will also act as individual in-flight pit covers, I could
       see the suitability of (expanded vinyl, or "Naugahyde") because it stretch
      es and would look nice when snapped around the outside perimeter of the pit
       (I think Mike Cuy has this type).
      
      Hope this was not too rambling,
      
      Dan Helsper
      Puryear, TN
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net>
      Sent: Fri, Jun 29, 2012 9:35 pm
      Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Cockpit Covers
      
      
      Good idea about the turn buttons, Skip! I had those on my old MGA many year
      s ago, but didn=99t know what they were called.
      
      Of course, I don=99t have any PIC time in a Piet, yet, but I fully ex
      pect to not fly with the rear cockpit covered, either. :-l
      
      
      Gary Boothe
      NX308MB
      Do not archive
      
      
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-lis
      t-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of skipgadd@earthlink.net
      Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 7:23 PM
      Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Cockpit Covers
      
      
      Gary,
      
      I used the best vinyl I could get from the local fabric shop, on Felix. Use
      d Turn Button Fasteners on the front pit and just snaps on the back pit, I 
      never fly with the back pit covered.
      
      Skip
      
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      
      From: Gary Boothe 
      
      
      Sent: 6/29/2012 7:40:17 PM 
      
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Cockpit Covers
      
      
      I did the requisite matronics search and found a few vague references to so
      me generic covering materials. Does anyone have a specific product or suppl
      ier that they like?
      
      Gary Boothe
      NX308MB
      
      <> 
      
      
      http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
      
      
      http://forums.matronics.com
      
      
      http://www.matronics.com/contribution
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Bill's taxiing!! | 
      
      
      Very nice!
      
      --------
      Mark Chouinard
      Wings, Center Section and Empannage and Fuse framed up - Working on Landing Gear
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376908#376908
      
      
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      Thanks to Shelley, Jerry, John, Skip, Jack, and Dan! I=99ll see 
      you all in couple weeks
      
      
      Gary Boothe
      
      NX308MB
      
      Do not archive
      
      
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com 
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of 
      helspersew@aol.com
      Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2012 4:46 AM
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Cockpit Covers
      
      
      Gary,
      
      
      The best type of material in my opinion, for a general airplane cover is 
      vinyl-coated (or laminated) polyester. This is essentially a sandwitch 
      of vinyl/polyester/vinyl. Try to get the light stuff, maybe 10 oz. per 
      sq. yard. It comes in a wide variety of colors. The other materials 
      suggested have their drawbacks. Canvas (cotton) is not dimensionally 
      stable (shrinks and stretches) and sometimes is not color fast. Last 
      year, for lack of time I just slobbed together those two yellow covers, 
      made from vinyl-laminated polyester (see the current issue of BPA News). 
      These were OK but wholly inadequate for the rains we got last year at 
      Brodhead. When the rain falls in the "tray" area of the Model A 
      installation, the water makes its way back and fills the fuselage. A few 
      weeks back I made a simple rectangular cover that attaches in the front 
      to the two prop blades with straps, covers the entire engine, center 
      section, and rear cockpit, attaching to the fuse right behind the rear 
      pit with straps that gird the underside of the fuse. This is now 
      standard equipment in my Piet traveling equipment. I actually used a 
      fabric called Stamoid, which is a little lighter than what I mentioned 
      above, but the stuff is prohibitively expensive. As I stated before, I 
      would not recommend canvas of any sort, or Sunbrella (woven acrylic). I 
      know the Sunbrella is widely used for boat covers and awnings, but years 
      ago I made a boat cover for my Dad;s pontoon, and I was not happy with 
      the wearability (it wore through at the corners pretty fast.) 
      
      I recently also fabricated a special front cockpit bag that snaps into 
      place along the inside perimeter of the front pit, at the longeron 
      level. When you come to Brodhead I'll show you all of this stuff I am 
      mentioning. If the covers you want will also act as individual in-flight 
      pit covers, I could see the suitability of (expanded vinyl, or 
      "Naugahyde") because it stretches and would look nice when snapped 
      around the outside perimeter of the pit (I think Mike Cuy has this 
      type).
      
      
      Hope this was not too rambling,
      
      
      Dan Helsper
      
      Puryear, TN
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: Gary Boothe < <mailto:gboothe5@comcast.net> gboothe5@comcast.net>
      pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
      Sent: Fri, Jun 29, 2012 9:35 pm
      Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Cockpit Covers
      
      Good idea about the turn buttons, Skip! I had those on my old MGA many 
      years ago, but didn=99t know what they were called.
      
      
      Of course, I don=99t have any PIC time in a Piet, yet, but I fully 
      expect to not fly with the rear cockpit covered, either. :-l
      
      
      Gary Boothe
      
      NX308MB
      
      Do not archive
      
      
      From:  <mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com> 
      owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [ 
      <mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com?> 
      mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of  
      <mailto:skipgadd@earthlink.net> skipgadd@earthlink.net
      Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 7:23 PM
      Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Cockpit Covers
      
      
      Gary,
      
      I used the best vinyl I could get from the local fabric shop, on Felix. 
      Used Turn Button Fasteners on the front pit and just snaps on the back 
      pit, I never fly with the back pit covered.
      
      Skip
      
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      
      From:  <mailto:gboothe5@comcast.net> Gary Boothe 
      
      
      Sent: 6/29/2012 7:40:17 PM 
      
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Cockpit Covers
      
      
      I did the requisite matronics search and found a few vague references to 
      some generic covering materials. Does anyone have a specific product or 
      supplier that they like?
      
      
      Gary Boothe
      
      NX308MB
      
      
      <> 
      
      
       <http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List> 
      http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
       <http://forums.matronics.com> http://forums.matronics.com
       <http://www.matronics.com/contribution> 
      http://www.matronics.com/contribution
      
      
      " target="_blank"> <http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List> 
      http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
      tp://forums.matronics.com
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| Subject:  | Re: Exaust stack,Brodhead | 
      
      Steve, The scuffing would not be a problem as our heat muff is actually a h
      alf diameter pipe welded to the bottom of the exaust stack, with an outlet 
      going to the carb heat box.- Might have to give it a go.- The pipe is o
      nly 18 inches long or so, so 20-50 bucks aint too bad if I get 15 years out
       of it.
      -
      Thanks for the input,
      Shad
      Don't archive
      
      --- On Fri, 6/29/12, steve@wotelectronics.com <steve@wotelectronics.com> wr
      ote:
      
      
      From: steve@wotelectronics.com <steve@wotelectronics.com>
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Exaust stack,Brodhead
      
      
      Shad,
      A couple years ago I replaced my old mild steel stacks (they were modified 
      Aeronca) as they had deteriorated. -I made mild steel straight stacks the
      n had them ceramic coated by a local shop, it cost $100 for all four. -Th
      ey charged by the foot, and mine are about 15" long I believe, so the rate 
      must've been about $20/foot. -The ceramic coating looks great, like bare,
       fresh metal and I'd guess they'll look this good for at least 15 years, th
      e ceramic coating is very durable. -The challenge will be protecting the 
      coating from getting scuffed by the heat muff. -I'd like to try using sma
      ll amounts of fiberglass header wrap between the muff and exhaust to keep t
      hem from getting scratched.
      Hope this helps, let me know if you have any questions.
      Steve Ruse
      Norman, OK-
      On 2012-06-28 21:01, shad bell wrote:
      
      
      Well, Fell'ers I might try Brodhead if I get the Thurs and following Monday
       off.- Dad is probably going to sit this one out (even though he has the 
      cofortable sleeping quarters).- I have to weld up a new exaust for the r/
      h side with a heat muff for the carb heat.- It has cracked once before, o
      n our 1st time at Brodhead, that weld repair has reached it's end of its us
      efull life.- Dad ordered the flanges, now I need to get the tubing.- Th
      e current exaust is stainless, I was wondering how long anyone out there's 
      mild steel exausts are holding up.- I can weld mild steel, never tried mu
      ch stainless (I got 8 hrs out of my last exaust repair using acetylene and 
      mild steel rod).- I might just pay the welder across the street to weld a
       stainless stack with his TIG-after I cut out all the parts, but I am stu
      born and like to do it myself.- Also wondering if anyone here has ceramic
      oated there mild steel exaust pipes, and how expensive it is.
      -
      Hope to see you all in a few weeks,
      Shad
      Do not archivehttp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List-> http://fo
      rums.matronics.com</==================
      ===== 
      -
      -
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: I've bought a Piet! | 
      
      
      Hi Peter, and congrats on your new wings! 
      
      The outfit that I would recommend is Viking Packing Specialist located here in
      Tulsa, Oklahoma.  These guys manufacture all kinds of custom shipping containers
      for individuals, airlines, Department of Defense and other government agencies.
      They once packaged an F-15 eagle for shipment to a museum.  
      
      The owner of the company is an avid aviator and EAA member who also owns a very active flight school on my home field, so he is aware of the needs and concerns involved with handling aircraft.  You can read a little about their operation here http://vikingpacking.com/
      
      If you call 1-800-788-8525 and ask for Michelle, she can help you.  I have already
      contacted the owner to give him an idea of what it is you are wanting to ship
      (he knows what a Pietenpol is)... he will brief Michelle on the job.
      
      He said that they prefer that the aircraft be disassembled to is shipping configuration
      in order to simply package the items and get them on their way, but he
      said that they would take care of disassembly if necessary.  I would imagine
      that the disassembly operation would occur in Beggs, OK prior to any movement,
      which is only about 45 minutes south of Tulsa... I could probably round up a
      few Pietenpol builders to oversee and advise on that part of the operation if
      it were necessary.  
      
      I'm not sure what other options there may be in Oklahoma, but this is one that
      I know of.  They are a very reputable and respected outfit.  I've been to their
      facility and it is amazing.  I'd say that you could certainly ship your new
      bird with confidence using Viking.
      
      --------
      Mark Chouinard
      Wings, Center Section and Empannage and Fuse framed up - Working on Landing Gear
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376915#376915
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: I've bought a Piet! | 
      
      
      Nice, Mark! You have great connections!
      
      Gary Boothe
      NX308MB
      Do not archive
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of K5YAC
      Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2012 9:05 AM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: I've bought a Piet!
      
      
      Hi Peter, and congrats on your new wings! 
      
      The outfit that I would recommend is Viking Packing Specialist located here
      in Tulsa, Oklahoma.  These guys manufacture all kinds of custom shipping
      containers for individuals, airlines, Department of Defense and other
      government agencies.  They once packaged an F-15 eagle for shipment to a
      museum.  
      
      The owner of the company is an avid aviator and EAA member who also owns a
      very active flight school on my home field, so he is aware of the needs and
      concerns involved with handling aircraft.  You can read a little about their
      operation here http://vikingpacking.com/
      
      If you call 1-800-788-8525 and ask for Michelle, she can help you.  I have
      already contacted the owner to give him an idea of what it is you are
      wanting to ship (he knows what a Pietenpol is)... he will brief Michelle on
      the job.
      
      He said that they prefer that the aircraft be disassembled to is shipping
      configuration in order to simply package the items and get them on their
      way, but he said that they would take care of disassembly if necessary.  I
      would imagine that the disassembly operation would occur in Beggs, OK prior
      to any movement, which is only about 45 minutes south of Tulsa... I could
      probably round up a few Pietenpol builders to oversee and advise on that
      part of the operation if it were necessary.  
      
      I'm not sure what other options there may be in Oklahoma, but this is one
      that I know of.  They are a very reputable and respected outfit.  I've been
      to their facility and it is amazing.  I'd say that you could certainly ship
      your new bird with confidence using Viking.
      
      --------
      Mark Chouinard
      Wings, Center Section and Empannage and Fuse framed up - Working on Landing
      Gear
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376915#376915
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: I've bought a Piet! | 
      
      
      Just realized that I misread the location... Braggs, not Beggs.  Oh well, Braggs
      is not too much further away.  Maybe a little over an hour from Tulsa.  Sure
      am glad it didn't turn out to be in western OK!  
      
      @Gary... Glad someone has a favorable impression of me.  More often than not I
      get suspicious looks from people when they hear that I associate with guys named
      Markle, Recine, Booth, Purtee, etc.
      
      --------
      Mark Chouinard
      Wings, Center Section and Empannage and Fuse framed up - Working on Landing Gear
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376924#376924
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: I've bought a Piet! | 
      
      
      Avoid anyone named, "Booth!"
      
      Gary Boothe
      NX308MB
      Do not archive
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of K5YAC
      Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2012 12:21 PM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: I've bought a Piet!
      
      
      Just realized that I misread the location... Braggs, not Beggs.  Oh well,
      Braggs is not too much further away.  Maybe a little over an hour from
      Tulsa.  Sure am glad it didn't turn out to be in western OK!  
      
      @Gary... Glad someone has a favorable impression of me.  More often than not
      I get suspicious looks from people when they hear that I associate with guys
      named Markle, Recine, Booth, Purtee, etc.
      
      --------
      Mark Chouinard
      Wings, Center Section and Empannage and Fuse framed up - Working on Landing
      Gear
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376924#376924
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: I've bought a Piet! | 
      
      
      Especially if you are named Lincoln?
      
      do not archive
      
      On Jun 30, 2012, at 4:38 PM, Gary Boothe wrote:
      
      > >
      >
      > Avoid anyone named, "Booth!"
      >
      > Gary Boothe
      > NX308MB
      > Do not archive
      >
      >
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of K5YAC
      > Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2012 12:21 PM
      > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: I've bought a Piet!
      >
      >
      > Just realized that I misread the location... Braggs, not Beggs.  Oh  
      > well,
      > Braggs is not too much further away.  Maybe a little over an hour from
      > Tulsa.  Sure am glad it didn't turn out to be in western OK!
      >
      > @Gary... Glad someone has a favorable impression of me.  More often  
      > than not
      > I get suspicious looks from people when they hear that I associate  
      > with guys
      > named Markle, Recine, Booth, Purtee, etc.
      >
      > --------
      > Mark Chouinard
      > Wings, Center Section and Empannage and Fuse framed up - Working on  
      > Landing
      > Gear
      >
      >
      > Read this topic online here:
      >
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376924#376924
      >
      >
      
      
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      Jack! Who thinks this far in advance?! Definitely not I.
      
      
      Gary Boothe
      
      NX308MB
      
      Do not archive
      
      
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
      Phillips
      Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2012 4:22 AM
      Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Cockpit Covers
      
      
      Gary,
      
      
      I used Sunbrella, (used sailcovers for sailboats, which are constantly
      exposed to sun and rain) which I bought at West Marine.
      http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?productId
      =107205
      <http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?productI
      d=107205&catalogId=10001&langId=-1&storeId=11151&storeNum=50821&subdeptNum=5
      0833&classNum=50834>
      &catalogId=10001&langId=-1&storeId=11151&storeNum=50821&subdeptNum=50833&cla
      ssNum=50834
      
      It is available in many colors - you're bound to find one that will go well
      with your color scheme.  They also sell snap grommet kits to apply the snaps
      to the fabric.
      
      
      My wife sewed mine for me and they have served me well for 8 years,
      including some horrendous thunderstorms at Brodhead.  And in the winter, I
      fly with the front cover in place to lesson the cold.  It seems to be about
      2 knots faster with the front 'pit covered.
      
      
      Jack Phillips
      
      NX899JP
      
      Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
      
      
        _____  
      
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Boothe
      Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 7:39 PM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Cockpit Covers
      
      
      I did the requisite matronics search and found a few vague references to
      some generic covering materials. Does anyone have a specific product or
      supplier that they like?
      
      
      Gary Boothe
      
      NX308MB
      
      
      http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
      
      http://forums.matronics.com
      
      http://www.matronics.com/contribution
      
      
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      As I read this post, the good idea fairy settled on my shoulder and said, "Can't
      we all just get along?"
      
      Rather than simply ban RC aircraft. Give them a place to do their thing. Some have
      some neat Pietenpol RC planes.  If there is a small grass area on the back
      side or away from the runway and pattern, perhaps a small RC field could be set
      up. Have an RC airboss, who keeps people in the right area and let kids fly
      some small backyard flyers. Perhaps a line of trees between the real plane runway
      and the RC area. I have been at airshows (more control to be sure) where
      the RC guys flew between each act. At Oshkosh they even have a Ultralight area.
      See if anyone will provide some simple RC aircraft for kids to fly.
      
      I have little interest in RC except just to play around. I don't build planes,
      talk electronics, and so forth. However, I am using RC to keep my 10 YO grandson
      interested in flying. He has one of these with a couple of spare parts. 
      http://secure.hobbyzone.com/catalog/hz/HBZ4900.html
      It is simple and fun to fly. 
      
      Blue Skies,
      Steve D
      
      
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com>
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: re:Pietenpol fly In at Brodhead
      
      
      > Well put P.F.....
      > 
      > There are people milling about, near the airplanes and back and forth
      > across the field....real airplanes on the ground (static, and taxiing
      > around), in the air....not exactly a safe, proper environment to be 
      > flyingRC stuff.
      > 
      > Additionally, Joe Smith may be a very competent RC pilot who can 
      > skillfullycontrol his airplane; but if he gets to fly, so does Joe 
      > Schmuckatelli, who
      > thinks he is a hotshot pilot but is not. So when he loses control 
      > and slams
      > his Ugly Stik into an airplane, a building, people.....things would 
      > getugly real fast. :)
      > 
      > Real airplanes for real airplane fly-ins, RC airplanes for RC airplane
      > fly-ins.
      > 
      > Ryan
      > 
      > On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 3:43 PM, Barnwell Regional Airport <barnwellairport@bellsouth.net>
      wrote:
      > 
      > > **
      > >
      > > We, all Pietenpol enthusiasts, builders, flyers, visitors, etc., are
      > > guests of EAA Chapter 431, who own the airport. As guests, we should always
      > > be thankful the chapter allows the Pietenpol Association to have the Fly In
      > > every year.
      > >
      > > In all the years I've been attending,I don't recall any model airplanes
      > > being flown during the Fly In.
      > >
      > > Model airplanes may be an individuals passion, but the vast majority who
      > > attend every year come to see our Pietenpol friends, admire their airplane,
      > > enjoy the camaraderie and go away having had an enjoyable time.  We do not
      > > go to see model airplanes.
      > >
      > > look forward to seeing  you all at Brodhead
      > >
      > > P. F. Beck
      > > Barnwell, S. C.
      > >
      > > ps.... when you pick up your name tags, please give Dee and Doc a big
      > > thank you for all they do in putting out an excellent newsletter
      > >
      > > *
      > >
      > > *
      > >
      > >
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: I've bought a Piet! | 
      
      
      Mark,
      
      Thanks. I have responded off list.
      
      Cheers
      
      Peter
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of K5YAC
      Sent: Sunday, 1 July 2012 2:05 AM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: I've bought a Piet!
      
      
      Hi Peter, and congrats on your new wings! 
      
      The outfit that I would recommend is Viking Packing Specialist located here
      in Tulsa, Oklahoma.  These guys manufacture all kinds of custom shipping
      containers for individuals, airlines, Department of Defense and other
      government agencies.  They once packaged an F-15 eagle for shipment to a
      museum.  
      
      The owner of the company is an avid aviator and EAA member who also owns a
      very active flight school on my home field, so he is aware of the needs and
      concerns involved with handling aircraft.  You can read a little about their
      operation here http://vikingpacking.com/
      
      If you call 1-800-788-8525 and ask for Michelle, she can help you.  I have
      already contacted the owner to give him an idea of what it is you are
      wanting to ship (he knows what a Pietenpol is)... he will brief Michelle on
      the job.
      
      He said that they prefer that the aircraft be disassembled to is shipping
      configuration in order to simply package the items and get them on their
      way, but he said that they would take care of disassembly if necessary.  I
      would imagine that the disassembly operation would occur in Beggs, OK prior
      to any movement, which is only about 45 minutes south of Tulsa... I could
      probably round up a few Pietenpol builders to oversee and advise on that
      part of the operation if it were necessary.  
      
      I'm not sure what other options there may be in Oklahoma, but this is one
      that I know of.  They are a very reputable and respected outfit.  I've been
      to their facility and it is amazing.  I'd say that you could certainly ship
      your new bird with confidence using Viking.
      
      --------
      Mark Chouinard
      Wings, Center Section and Empannage and Fuse framed up - Working on Landing
      Gear
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376915#376915
      
      
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      Hey all,
      
      
      Need to do the gap seals on the tail and ailerons.  Wanted to hear what
      people did that worked.  The first time around I used nylon self-adhesive
      rip stop tape in an upside down "U".  Have read about carpet tape.  Has
      anyone used foam weatherstripping??
      
      
      Douwe
      
      
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      we used a clear 3M packing tape, 3 inch.  Lasted over 100 hours before it needed
      replacing.  It is nearly invisible.  Too easy, very cheap, highly effective.
      http://www.scotchbrand.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/ScotchBrand/Scotch/Products/ProductCatalog/?PC_7_RJH9U52300LM30I87QR3ES18H7000000_nid=2FR6PH7QP1gsV9FWH5FFP6glV3R79RN965bl
      
      --------
      Shelley Tumino
      IT Girl
      wife of "Axel"
      NX899KP
      
      DO NOT ARCHIVE
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376950#376950
      
      
 
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