Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Sat 07/07/12


Total Messages Posted: 36



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     1. 02:16 AM - Re: Brodhead bound (Jack)
     2. 04:01 AM - Re: Brodhead bound (helspersew@aol.com)
     3. 07:33 AM - Re: Headed for LHM (Michael Groah)
     4. 07:48 AM - Re: Markle Mania revisited (Dan Yocum)
     5. 08:11 AM - Re: Markle Mania revisited (K5YAC)
     6. 08:19 AM - Re: Brodhead bound (Rick)
     7. 08:27 AM - Re: Brodhead bound (K5YAC)
     8. 10:12 AM - Re: Brodhead bound (Jim Boyer)
     9. 11:12 AM - Re: Brodhead bound (curtdm(at)gmail.com)
    10. 12:04 PM - Re: Headed for LHM (V Groah)
    11. 12:34 PM - Re: Headed for LHM (Gary Boothe)
    12. 12:45 PM - Re: Headed for LHM (Ray Krause)
    13. 01:10 PM - Straight Axle Stops (Larry Morlock)
    14. 01:34 PM - Well, I was needing to wash my my airplane anyway... (Andrew Eldredge)
    15. 03:21 PM - Re: Brodhead bound (IT Girl)
    16. 03:27 PM - Re: Straight Axle Stops (echobravo4)
    17. 03:30 PM - Re: Brodhead bound (echobravo4)
    18. 03:47 PM - Re: Markle Mania revisited (echobravo4)
    19. 04:11 PM - Re: Well, I was needing to wash my my airplane anyway... (kevinpurtee)
    20. 04:18 PM - broken 3/32 flying wire (Douwe Blumberg)
    21. 04:20 PM - Re: Well, I was needing to wash my my airplane anyway... (gboothe5@comcast.net)
    22. 04:45 PM - Re: Well, I was needing to wash my my airplane anyway... (Ken Bickers)
    23. 05:34 PM - Re: Straight Axle Stops (tools)
    24. 05:40 PM - Re: Re: Brodhead bound (dog67@aol.com)
    25. 06:11 PM - Re: broken 3/32 flying wire (womenfly2)
    26. 06:11 PM - Mom's Piet Flight (woodflier@aol.com)
    27. 06:32 PM - Re: Headed for LHM (gboothe5@comcast.net)
    28. 06:33 PM - Re: Mom's Piet Flight (Don)
    29. 06:43 PM - Re: Well, I was needing to wash my my airplane anyway... (tools)
    30. 07:14 PM - Re: Mom's Piet Flight (Kip and Beth Gardner)
    31. 07:39 PM - Re: Re: Well, I was needing to wash my my airplane anyway... (Clif Dawson)
    32. 07:48 PM - Re: Brodhead bound (K5YAC)
    33. 07:50 PM - Re: Mom's Piet Flight (Dave and Connie)
    34. 09:28 PM - Re: Mom's Piet Flight (coxwelljon)
    35. 10:34 PM - Re: Brodhead bound (Billy McCaskill)
    36. 11:09 PM - Re: Straight Axle Stops (Gary Boothe)
 
 
 


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    Time: 02:16:50 AM PST US
    From: "Jack" <jack@textors.com>
    Subject: Brodhead bound
    Shelley we will be there Thursday. Travel safe all! Jack Textor DSM NX1929T do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of IT Girl Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 9:38 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead bound 8 days until we embark on our trip to Brodhead. We can't wait to see you all there! Do NOT archive -------- Shelley Tumino IT Girl wife of &quot;Axel&quot; NX899KP DO NOT ARCHIVE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=377473#377473


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    Time: 04:01:40 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Brodhead bound
    From: helspersew@aol.com
    Try'in to get everything "tightened up" (as my Dad always said) down here s o I can fly the Aeronca up to Poplar Grove this coming Thursday. I need to get a few last minute things done on the Piet NX929DH before I fly her in t o Brodhead hopefully a week later. Can't wait to see everybody! Dan Helsper Puryear, TN -----Original Message----- From: IT Girl <shlizbth@gmail.com> Sent: Fri, Jul 6, 2012 9:38 pm Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead bound 8 days until we embark on our trip to Brodhead. We can't wait to see you a ll there! Do NOT archive -------- Shelley Tumino IT Girl wife of &quot;Axel&quot; NX899KP DO NOT ARCHIVE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=377473#377473


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    Time: 07:33:39 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Headed for LHM
    From: Michael Groah <dskogrover@yahoo.com>
    Have fun this morning Gary! That's awesome that you've made it to this step. Get that thing reassembled and get us some more pics of it in the hangar. Mike Groah Tulare CA Do not archive


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    Time: 07:48:21 AM PST US
    From: Dan Yocum <yocum137@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Markle Mania revisited
    I echo what the honorable Mr. Recine said. Dan -- Dan Yocum yocum137@gmail.com "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."


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    Time: 08:11:57 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Markle Mania revisited
    From: "K5YAC" <hangar10@cox.net>
    It was an awesome time... and well worth it to not have Jim drift off into the shadows. While the response was indeed amazing and it demonstrates the kind of people we have in this group, I'd like to point out another comment that was made back then, which was something to the effect of... it was for Jim Markle. I remember thinking about that and wondering how many others would be able to garner that kind of support. I remember when I first came on the boards (ok, fine... the mailing list)... several people asked where I was from... of course I said the Tulsa area and I promptly got asked if I had met Jim Markle... it was made clear that I NEED to meet The Markle. Something to the effect that I really wasn't having the Pietenpol experience until I did. Well honestly, with everyone insisting that I go see this guy I started to become a little wary of the idea. After all, it doesn't take long to get a sense of some of the dark humor on the list, I was sure that I was being set up for an unpleasant experience or something other than a seemingly harmless visit (there are lots of banjos and such over in Mayes county) Ha! I finally did meet Jim that year at Brodhead, at the grand 80th Anniversary of our fabulous little airplane, and I was pleased to see that he was a somewhat normal fellow (hey, I said somewhat). Even though Jim burns me often with his quick wit, I look forward to every visit. A great guy and a very nice (and obviously very patient) family. Jim has been and continues to be an excellent ambassador to our hobby... definitely one of a kind. I'm proud to call him my friend. -------- Mark Chouinard Wings, Center Section and Empannage and Fuse framed up - Working on Landing Gear Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=377500#377500


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    Time: 08:19:55 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Brodhead bound
    From: Rick <lmforge@earthlink.net>
    What a milestone Gary. I just finished putting on my last perimeter tapes on my left wing. I'm still fighting the heat at the airport. It was 106 yester day and due to be the same today. Hope to see you in a few days at Brodhead. Be sure and bring pictures of you r Piet!l Regards Rick Schreiber NX478RS DO not archive Sent from my iPad >


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    Time: 08:27:33 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Brodhead bound
    From: "K5YAC" <hangar10@cox.net>
    Tyler and I are coming this year... officially started packing last night. This will be our first time camping on the field. Can't wait to see all of you! -------- Mark Chouinard Wings, Center Section and Empannage and Fuse framed up - Working on Landing Gear Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=377505#377505


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    Time: 10:12:24 AM PST US
    From: Jim Boyer <boyerjrb@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Brodhead bound
    Gary that is Cool! Glad to see it made its trip to the airport. Jim B.


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    Time: 11:12:09 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Brodhead bound
    From: "curtdm(at)gmail.com" <curtdm@gmail.com>
    I hope everyone have a great time this year! I unfortunately won't be able to make it because of my work schedule, but I can say my work has given me the opportunity to visit several of you at your workshops over the last year. I want to thank Mark Chouinard, Gary Boothe, Chuck Borsuk, Jake Shultz, Mike Perez and Brian Jardine. I cannot wait to see all of these incredible airplanes in the air! I truly enjoyed my visits and enjoy all the progress reports. I'll be looking forward to Axel rocking his wings as he passes Dallas on way up north! -------- Curt Merdan Flower Mound, TX Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=377532#377532


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    Time: 12:04:43 PM PST US
    From: V Groah <vgroah@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Headed for LHM
    Gary=2C I am soooo happy for you!!!!!! This is truly a milestone in your quest for a flying plane. Now you will have the fun part of putting it together for the last time. As was with us=2C it looks like a plane assembled at home but you know it really means business when you see it surrounded by a hange r at an airport. At the rate you are going you will have the inspection an d will be flying this summer. Both you and Mike need to fly off the 40 so you can park the two green machines together at frazier Lake next June for the west coast Piet meet. Vic Groah NX414MV Tulare Ca. do not archive > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Headed for LHM > From: dskogrover@yahoo.com > Date: Sat=2C 7 Jul 2012 07:31:48 -0700 > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > > > > Have fun this morning Gary! That's awesome that you've made it to this st ep. Get that thing reassembled and get us some more pics of it in the hanga r. > > > Mike Groah > Tulare CA > > Do not archive > > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > >


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    Time: 12:34:32 PM PST US
    From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
    Subject: Headed for LHM
    Hear-Hear, Vic!! Gary Boothe NX308MB Do not archive From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of V Groah Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2012 12:04 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Headed for LHM Gary, I am soooo happy for you!!!!!! This is truly a milestone in your quest for a flying plane. Now you will have the fun part of putting it together for the last time. As was with us, it looks like a plane assembled at home but you know it really means business when you see it surrounded by a hanger at an airport. At the rate you are going you will have the inspection and will be flying this summer. Both you and Mike need to fly off the 40 so you can park the two green machines together at frazier Lake next June for the west coast Piet meet. Vic Groah NX414MV Tulare Ca. do not archive > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Headed for LHM > From: dskogrover@yahoo.com > Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2012 07:31:48 -0700 > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > > > Have fun this morning Gary! That's awesome that you've made it to this step. Get that thing reassembled and get us some more pics of it in the hangar. > > > Mike Groah > Tulare CA > > Do not archive > > >


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    Time: 12:45:36 PM PST US
    From: "Ray Krause" <Raykrause@frontiernet.net>
    Subject: Re: Headed for LHM
    Atta Boy, Gary! Get a big range on it so you can come to Colusa on your 40 hours! Guess I could come see you. Thanks, Ray Krause ----- Original Message ----- From: Gary Boothe To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 8:40 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Headed for LHM Gary Boothe NX308MB


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    Time: 01:10:55 PM PST US
    From: "Larry Morlock" <l.morlock@att.net>
    Subject: Straight Axle Stops
    I have a question on preventing the axle from rotating on a straight axle gear with brakes . I have decided to add mechanical disc brakes and intend to use a short length of cable from the landing gear strut to the brake caliper to stop the axle from rotating. My EAA Tech Counselor says this is not advisable as the cable is not in line with the caliper and will place an excessive side load on the brake rotor. However, I have seen this arrangement on other Piets at Brodhead. Any advice from people with this arrangement? Is the side load a problem? I only plan to use the brakes for taxiing. I have a steerable tailwheel, but thought I need the brakes to make sure I don't run into anything on the ground, so shouldn't be a lot of force generated. I'm planning to stop at Brodhead on Saturday morning on the way to OSH, so look forward to meeting and greeting. Larry Morlock


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    Time: 01:34:09 PM PST US
    Subject: Well, I was needing to wash my my airplane anyway...
    From: Andrew Eldredge <andrew.eldredge@gmail.com>
    I was taxing out to runway 12 at U77, hanging my head out the left hand side as is my custom, when I saw a couple critters scamper in front of me. I quickly lost my focus on the first one when I saw the second one was black with white accents and had it's tail on it's back. .7 hours in the morning air was not enough to remove the effects of the encounter. I've read about the baking soda/peroxide solution for pets. I'll give updates, but If you have experience de-skunking a latex paint job, I'm all ears. Andrew Eldredge Provo, UT


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    Time: 03:21:55 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Brodhead bound
    From: "IT Girl" <shlizbth@gmail.com>
    Darn it Curt... we will miss you! Mark tell Tyler I have some great stuff planned to keep things fun and cool for the boys. I have very little left to tighten up... almost ready. DO NOT ARCHIVE -------- Shelley Tumino IT Girl wife of &quot;Axel&quot; NX899KP DO NOT ARCHIVE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=377549#377549


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    Time: 03:27:37 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Straight Axle Stops
    From: "echobravo4" <eab4@comcast.net>
    Hey Larry; A short rod welded to the axle going down through the bottom landing gear block seems to be the most common and, really, the simplest way to stop the axle rotation. I think the cable in the picture is actually excess brake cable, the end opposite the caliper arm does not actually touch the landing gear leg- if that end were attached to the gear leg- the caliper arm would not be able to move. look forward to meeting you at Brodhead Earl Do Not Archive -------- Earl Brown I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I intended to be. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=377551#377551


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    Time: 03:30:59 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Brodhead bound
    From: "echobravo4" <eab4@comcast.net>
    just about done packing! can't wait! do not archive -------- Earl Brown I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I intended to be. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=377552#377552


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    Time: 03:47:15 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Markle Mania revisited
    From: "echobravo4" <eab4@comcast.net>
    I came to the list just as this event was coming to a close and was really impressed by this group of people coming to the aid of a fellow builder. I have since gotten the pleasure meeting Jim at a John R. hanger cookout and have to say he really is a great guy and i still had all my stuff when i got home! Look forward to seeing you again at Brodhead Jim! Earl do not archive -------- Earl Brown I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I intended to be. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=377554#377554


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    Time: 04:11:23 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Well, I was needing to wash my my airplane anyway...
    From: "kevinpurtee" <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
    Sorry, Andrew, but that's absolutely hysterical! "Nothin's truly funny until someone gets hurt." Best to your lovely family. do not arcive -------- Kevin &quot;Axel&quot; Purtee NX899KP Austin/San Marcos, TX Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=377556#377556


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    Time: 04:18:00 PM PST US
    From: "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg@earthlink.net>
    Subject: broken 3/32 flying wire
    Hey all, One thing I've forgotten to share about 799B's incident, and which might prove interesting to some is this. When she went off the runway and hit the drainage ditch, the speed was probably 20-25mph at the most, and the wing tank only had ten gallons in it but the wing displaced forward an inch or two because my diagonal braces were totally incapable of handling any stress in compression (that has been fixed!) However, I wanted to mention that the anti drag flying wire on one side actually was snapped and the other shows clear signs of overstress. The cable itself snapped, not the swage fitting attachment. The cables were the 3/32 as called for in the plans, and were good condition galvanized cables. Take from this what you like, but it seems to me that this cable shouldn't have broken from a relatively mild deceleration. I know 3/32 has proved totally adequate for normal flying, I just wonder though if it might be a bit light for a situation like this which can easily lead to ruptured fuel lines in a wing tank. I'm replacing them with 1/8th and taking the few ounce weight penalty incurred. Douwe Progress report: making seat cushions. Bought some memory foam pillows from Amazon for $17 bucks and they seem like the perfect starting point for a nice comfy seat. Gap seals on tail done. Ended up doing two corner moldings from balsa and leaving a 1/8th gap, then doping a fabric "bridge" across them. Overkill, but looks nice and should work well.


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    Time: 04:20:01 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Well, I was needing to wash my my airplane anyway...
    From: gboothe5@comcast.net
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    Time: 04:45:10 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Well, I was needing to wash my my airplane anyway...
    From: Ken Bickers <bickers.ken@gmail.com>
    Ooh . . . Piet le pew Do not archive On Jul 7, 2012, at 2:33 PM, Andrew Eldredge <andrew.eldredge@gmail.com> wrot e: > I was taxing out to runway 12 at U77, hanging my head out the left hand si de as is my custom, when I saw a couple critters scamper in front of me. I q uickly lost my focus on the first one when I saw the second one was black wi th white accents and had it's tail on it's back. .7 hours in the morning ai r was not enough to remove the effects of the encounter. I've read about th e baking soda/peroxide solution for pets. I'll give updates, but If you hav e experience de-skunking a latex paint job, I'm all ears. > > > Andrew Eldredge > Provo, UT > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= >


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    Time: 05:34:10 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Straight Axle Stops
    From: "tools" <n0kkj@yahoo.com>
    Well, the setup you're mentioning really stops the caliper bracket from rotating, not the axle, right? If so, that's the setup mine has, and it works just fine. I don't see any noticable side force and havn't had the axle move back and forth at all. My cables hook to the gear plates on the outside, keeping it as inline as possible. Looks like it runs to the inside, if it's the cable and not a brake line, in the pic. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=377565#377565


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    Time: 05:40:36 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Brodhead bound
    From: dog67@aol.com
    Hi Piet folks! for those I haven't met - which is most - I'm Jonathan Apfelbaum. I'm very slowly building a Piet. But, I love going to Brodhead every year (in the bright yellow glastar - IE "Plastic Airplane"). I usually try and park nea r the back. I'm an avid, although amatuer, photographer. Last year I shot some pic's o f Dan Helpser's piet, so he can vouch either way regarding skill. Doc contacted me a few month's back and asked if I would be up for shooting some pics - esp air-to-air - of Piet's this year. I, of course, would lov e too. However, I obviously need photo targets :) My plan was to pull the doors off the Glastar (it makes a good photo platfo rm), and try and shoot as many Piets as I can. Best times being sunrise an d sunset. I'm glad to provide the images to folks of their planes if they would like. I hope to make it there friday (and have to be in Madison sat evening - so that gives me fri PM and sat AM). If I can get there sooner, I will. Anyway - if anyone is interested - let me know, either by email, or by sayi ng Hi at Brodhead. See y'all there Cheers jon -----Original Message----- From: IT Girl <shlizbth@gmail.com> Sent: Sat, Jul 7, 2012 4:22 pm Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Brodhead bound Darn it Curt... we will miss you! Mark tell Tyler I have some great stuff planned to keep things fun and cool for he boys. I have very little left to tighten up... almost ready. DO NOT ARCHIVE -------- helley Tumino T Girl ife of &quot;Axel&quot; X899KP DO NOT ARCHIVE ead this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=377549#377549 -= - The Pietenpol-List Email Forum - -= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse -= the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription, -= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, -= Photoshare, and much much more: - -= --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List - -======================== -= - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - -= Same great content also available via the Web Forums! - -= --> http://forums.matronics.com - -======================== -= - List Contribution Web Site - -= Thank you for your generous support! -= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. -= --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution -========================


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    Time: 06:11:30 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: broken 3/32 flying wire
    From: "womenfly2" <Love2Fly.KAP@gmail.com>
    If you only had wires on one side of the center struts the wing probably rotated too adding an unsymmetrical load also to the wires. In which the wing did not move simply straight forward. This would then put an even higher load on the wire along with the initial shock load. I used 1/8" wire all around. -------- Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=377568#377568


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    Time: 06:11:30 PM PST US
    Subject: Mom's Piet Flight
    From: woodflier@aol.com
    Some of you may have seen this before but some not. Thought I'd share. This picture was taken last Saturday when my mom got her first flight in the Pi etenpol during her 80th birthday celebration. She loved the flight and it w as a real treat taking her up. Matt Paxton


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    Time: 06:32:34 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Headed for LHM
    From: gboothe5@comcast.net
    Looking forward to it, Ray!! I wanna see that Scout! Gary Do not archive Sent on the Sprint Now Network from my BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: "Ray Krause" <Raykrause@frontiernet.net> Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format.


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    Time: 06:33:46 PM PST US
    From: "Don" <don.h@wcoil.com>
    Subject: Re: Mom's Piet Flight
    that=99s a million dollar picture Wish I could have taken my mother for a ride in my ole t-craft I rebuilt From: woodflier@aol.com Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2012 9:11 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Mom's Piet Flight Some of you may have seen this before but some not. Thought I'd share. This picture was taken last Saturday when my mom got her first flight in the Pietenpol during her 80th birthday celebration. She loved the flight and it was a real treat taking her up. Matt Paxton


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    Time: 06:43:23 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Well, I was needing to wash my my airplane anyway...
    From: "tools" <n0kkj@yahoo.com>
    OMG! Uh, I mean, sorry to hear that... really. Sounds like Gary is on to what a good old boy here in Georgia told me works the best to get the skunk smell of his traps when he gets one... and that is... (wait for it...) About a month. Flying it around has gotta work as good as anything, providing it's not too bad to actually fly! Seems to me skunk smell doesn't seem to last on cars too long when you run them over. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=377574#377574


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    Time: 07:14:45 PM PST US
    From: Kip and Beth Gardner <kipandbeth@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Mom's Piet Flight
    Nice Matt! do not archive. On Jul 7, 2012, at 9:11 PM, woodflier@aol.com wrote: > Some of you may have seen this before but some not. Thought I'd > share. This picture was taken last Saturday when my mom got her > first flight in the Pietenpol during her 80th birthday celebration. > She loved the flight and it was a real treat taking her up. > > Matt Paxton > <Moms Piet ride1.jpg>


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    Time: 07:39:13 PM PST US
    From: "Clif Dawson" <cdawson5854@shaw.ca>
    Subject: Re: Well, I was needing to wash my my airplane anyway...
    Speaking of skunks and vehicles............:-) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UejelYnVI3U&feature=fvwrel Clif Life is uncertain. Eat dessert first. > > Flying it around has gotta work as good as anything, providing it's not > too bad to actually fly! Seems to me skunk smell doesn't seem to last on > cars too long when you run them over.


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    Time: 07:48:36 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Brodhead bound
    From: "K5YAC" <hangar10@cox.net>
    I'll tell him Shelly... he's already getting excited too! @Curt... Sorry you won't be able to make it. -------- Mark Chouinard Wings, Center Section and Empannage and Fuse framed up - Working on Landing Gear Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=377579#377579


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    Time: 07:50:29 PM PST US
    From: Dave and Connie <dmatt@frontiernet.net>
    Subject: Re: Mom's Piet Flight
    I got to take my father up in my Taylorcraft once. It is something that I will always remember. Dave - N36078 On 7/7/2012 9:33 PM, Don wrote: > thats a million dollar picture Wish I could have taken my mother for > a ride in my ole t-craft I rebuilt > *From:* woodflier@aol.com <mailto:woodflier@aol.com> > *Sent:* Saturday, July 07, 2012 9:11 PM > *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com <mailto:pietenpol-list@matronics.com> > *Subject:* Pietenpol-List: Mom's Piet Flight > Some of you may have seen this before but some not. Thought I'd share. > This picture was taken last Saturday when my mom got her first flight > in the Pietenpol during her 80th birthday celebration. She loved the > flight and it was a real treat taking her up. > Matt Paxton > * > > > * > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com> >


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    Time: 09:28:20 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Mom's Piet Flight
    From: "coxwelljon" <coxwelljon@frontiernet.net>
    I just have to share this. My mom is no longer with us but many years ago when she was in her 70's and I was still living in Montana and flying an old wooden wing Mooney for my business travel, I took my mom on a trip from Billings Montana to Casper Wyoming. My mom had a high school girl friend who had married a self made oil man who had done well and built up his own drilling company. I agreed to take my mom for a weekend visit in the Mooney. They had my call number and when I landed at Casper the tower cleared me to the taxi way and directed me to follow a red truck parked at the entrance to the runway. I was led to a large hanger where the doors automatically opened up and I was waved inside. When I shut down my 20+ year old Mooney I was parked next to 2 new Bell helicopters and an 8 passenger Lear Jet all sparkling and painted in the company colors. My mom, who had spent most of her adult life on a small Montana cattle ranch was thrilled to say the least. We then were driven to the family home where we almost needed a security guard escort to get in. My mom and I talked on the way home that living a more frugal lifestyle has its trials but a lot more peace of mind. Jon Coxwell GN1 100 hp corvair upstate NY -------- Jon Coxwell GN-1 Builder Recycle and preserve the planet Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=377591#377591


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    Time: 10:34:16 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Brodhead bound
    From: "Billy McCaskill" <billmz@cox.net>
    I've got just a few more loose ends to tie up, but I will be ready to leave next Wednesday for a 2 day drive to Brodhead. I'm getting excited like the rest of you guys (and gals)! -------- Billy McCaskill Baker, LA tail section almost done, starting on ribs soon Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=377596#377596


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    Time: 11:09:42 PM PST US
    From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
    Subject: Straight Axle Stops
    I haven't taxied, yet, Larry.so can't comment on brakes, etc, but I'm glad to see you are making progress! Gary Boothe NX308MB Do not archive From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Morlock Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2012 1:10 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Straight Axle Stops I have a question on preventing the axle from rotating on a straight axle gear with brakes . I have decided to add mechanical disc brakes and intend to use a short length of cable from the landing gear strut to the brake caliper to stop the axle from rotating. My EAA Tech Counselor says this is not advisable as the cable is not in line with the caliper and will place an excessive side load on the brake rotor. However, I have seen this arrangement on other Piets at Brodhead. Any advice from people with this arrangement? Is the side load a problem? I only plan to use the brakes for taxiing. I have a steerable tailwheel, but thought I need the brakes to make sure I don't run into anything on the ground, so shouldn't be a lot of force generated. I'm planning to stop at Brodhead on Saturday morning on the way to OSH, so look forward to meeting and greeting. Larry Morlock




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