Today's Message Index:
----------------------
1. 03:25 AM - Re: Airworthiness Certificate !!! (Amsafetyc)
2. 05:06 AM - VA flight next year and congrats... (Douwe Blumberg)
3. 07:15 AM - Re: Airworthiness Certificate !!! (AircamperN11MS)
4. 07:18 AM - Re: Airworthiness Certificate !!! (Hans van der Voort)
5. 07:53 AM - Re: Brat Fest 2012 (coxwelljon)
6. 08:03 AM - Need a hotel room for Brodhead? (brian.e.jardine@l-3com.com)
7. 08:04 AM - Model A crankshafts (coxwelljon)
8. 09:16 AM - Ride available from Chatt TN to Brodhead WI (tools)
9. 09:16 AM - Re: VA flight next year and congrats... (V Groah)
10. 09:22 AM - Re: Re: Airworthiness Certificate !!! (V Groah)
11. 09:34 AM - Re: Airworthiness Certificate !!! (AircamperN11MS)
12. 09:52 AM - Re: Re: Airworthiness Certificate !!! (V Groah)
13. 10:02 AM - Re: Airworthiness Certificate !!! (AircamperN11MS)
14. 01:03 PM - Safetying Worm Drive Hose Clamps (gboothe5@comcast.net)
15. 01:11 PM - Re: Safetying Worm Drive Hose Clamps (Matthew)
16. 01:22 PM - Re: Safetying Worm Drive Hose Clamps (Jack Phillips)
17. 01:27 PM - Powder coating question (brian.e.jardine@l-3com.com)
18. 01:29 PM - Re: Safetying Worm Drive Hose Clamps (DaveG601XL)
19. 01:32 PM - Re: Safetying Worm Drive Hose Clamps (gboothe5@comcast.net)
20. 02:04 PM - Re: Re: Safetying Worm Drive Hose Clamps (gboothe5@comcast.net)
21. 02:16 PM - Re: Safetying Worm Drive Hose Clamps (Gene Rambo)
22. 02:26 PM - Re: Safetying Worm Drive Hose Clamps (Matthew)
23. 02:28 PM - Re: Safetying Worm Drive Hose Clamps (gboothe5@comcast.net)
24. 02:56 PM - Re: Safetying Worm Drive Hose Clamps (Gene Rambo)
25. 03:22 PM - Brodhead weather forecast... (Jim Markle)
26. 03:30 PM - Re: Brodhead weather forecast... (IT Girl)
27. 03:39 PM - Prop trade. (tools)
28. 03:51 PM - Re: Re: Brodhead weather forecast... (shad bell)
29. 03:58 PM - Re: Safetying Worm Drive Hose Clamps (shad bell)
30. 04:16 PM - Re: Re: Safetying Worm Drive Hose Clamps (Gary Boothe)
31. 06:17 PM - Mykitplane.com (John Francis)
32. 06:51 PM - Re: Powder coating question (Greg Cardinal)
33. 08:03 PM - Re: Prop trade. (Ben Charvet)
34. 08:18 PM - turnbuckes for sale (TOM MICHELLE BRANT)
35. 08:27 PM - Re: Prop trade. (tools)
36. 08:29 PM - corvair heads for sale (TOM MICHELLE BRANT)
Message 1
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Airworthiness Certificate !!! |
Congrats we all hope to join your new ranks sooner or later, preferably soon
er
John
Do not archive
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 12, 2012, at 6:38 PM, Michael Groah <dskogrover@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> Today we received our airworthiness certificate and my repairman's certifi
cate for 414MV! It feels good to have that part done. Now I just need to d
o that final part..... fly it! The first flight should happen in the next c
ouple of weeks.
>
> Mike Groah
> Tulare CA
>
>
> <AW Cert.jpg>
> <Pietenpol 414MV.jpg>
Message 2
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | VA flight next year and congrats... |
First off congrats to Vic and Mike, to Gene and everybody else finishing or
nearing the finish line. WELL DONE!!!
Jack and Gene, be sure you pick me up on your way north!
Douwe
Changed plans, we're moving to the hangar today.
Message 3
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Airworthiness Certificate !!! |
Mike,
It looks very nice. Perhaps I should fly up there to have a look at it. Let me
know if that is possible for you.
--------
Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=378182#378182
Message 4
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Airworthiness Certificate !!! |
Congratulations now the exciting part starts=0A-=0AHave Fun=0A-=0AHans
=0A-=0ANX 15KV=0A =0A=0A________________________________=0A From: Michael
Groah <dskogrover@yahoo.com>=0ATo: "pietenpol-list@matronics.com" <pietenp
ol-list@matronics.com> =0ASent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 5:38 PM=0ASubject:
Pietenpol-List: Airworthiness Certificate !!!=0A =0A=0A=0A=0A=0AToday we r
eceived our airworthiness certificate and my repairman's certificate for 41
4MV!- It feels good to have that part done.-- Now I just need to do t
hat final part..... fly it!- The first flight should happen in the next c
ouple of weeks.- =0A=0AMike Groah=0ATulare CA
Message 5
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Brat Fest 2012 |
Jack,
Leaving Remsen NY on Wed. Hope to show my CO grandson Niagara Falls and make Brodhead
by Thur. evening. Hope to see you on Friday.
My grandson is not an airplane enthusiast yet but I am working on him.
Jon Coxwell
--------
Jon Coxwell
GN-1 Builder
Recycle and preserve the planet
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=378187#378187
Message 6
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Need a hotel room for Brodhead? |
Group,
Anyone needing to book a room for Brodhead? Unfortunately work has just
gotten in the way of the important things of life. I have a 2 queen
room at the Americ-Inn in Monroe, it's 10 min from Brodhead, free hot
breakfast and pool. I still have my reservation but need to cancel,
most hotels in the area are booked during Brodhead so call me and I will
cancel and you can pick up my room.
Brian
SLC-UT
Do Not Archive
Message 7
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Model A crankshafts |
A friend was cleaning out her barn and said she found a couple of Model A crank
shafts. I have not seen them so I cannot speak to condition, but I suppose they
are rusty. I am using a corvair so not too familiar with the what Ford parts
are reusable. If anyone may be interested, contact me off line.
--------
Jon Coxwell
GN-1 Builder
Recycle and preserve the planet
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=378188#378188
Message 8
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Ride available from Chatt TN to Brodhead WI |
Leaving Chatt TN headed to Brodhead on 18 Jul, arriving sometime on Thurs. 33'
motorhome, currently may even NEED a driver, one other pax, so plenty of space,
pickup on the way is fine (still need to finalize the route, it's following
the plane).
Headed from Brodhead to Oshkosh on Sun.
Mike Danford, 423 580 1383
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=378198#378198
Message 9
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | VA flight next year and congrats... |
Moving to hanger usually means near completion=2C good stuff. You too wil
l be finished and ready to test this summer?? Looks like a great crop no n
ew planes getting into the air this season. Congratulations on the continu
ing success. Vic 414MV
do not archive
From: douweblumberg@earthlink.net
Subject: Pietenpol-List: VA flight next year and congrats...
First off congrats to Vic and Mike=2C to Gene and everybody else finishing
or nearing the finish line. WELL DONE!!!
Jack and Gene=2C be sure you pick me up on your way north!
Douwe
Changed plans=2C we=92re moving to the hangar today=85
Message 10
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Airworthiness Certificate !!! |
Would love to see you. Mike will be back in school the middle of august.
If you can come before that it would be best for him. I am retired and tir
ed so am more flexable on schedule. Tulare airport is just four miles from
my place and two from Mikes. The plane is at Porterville about 30 miles fr
om here. We have a spare bedroom and both wives are good cooks. The invit
e is open to you Piet folks out there. Come on up Scott. It would be fun
to have the two together. Vic
do not archive
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Airworthiness Certificate !!!
> From: Scott.liefeld@lacity.org
> Date: Fri=2C 13 Jul 2012 07:15:02 -0700
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>
ity.org>
>
> Mike=2C
>
>
> It looks very nice. Perhaps I should fly up there to have a look at it. L
et me know if that is possible for you.
>
> --------
> Scott Liefeld
> Flying N11MS since March 1972
> Steel Tube
> C-85-12
> Wire Wheels
> Brodhead in 1996
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=378182#378182
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
===========
===========
===========
===========
>
>
>
Message 11
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Airworthiness Certificate !!! |
Hi Vic,
Perhaps I can fly up this weekend. Porterville is only about 1.7 hour flight for
me.
Here is my contact info.
Scott Liefeld
Hm: 661-718-1155
Cell: 611-400-1876
Home email: pietman@qnet.com
--------
Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=378201#378201
Message 12
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Airworthiness Certificate !!! |
The weekend is open for me=2C Mike is out flying an Aironca champ right now
getting tail dragger practice for the piet. We have a some inspection pan
els to replace to fly the Piet and Mike needs some more tail dragger time t
o feel confident. I will check with Mike when he comes back from the airpo
rt to find what his weekend looks like. He will be coming here as his litt
le girl is here with us this morning so he can fly. Would you be looking a
t Saturday or Sunday or an over night? As far as I am concerned it would b
e an honor to have you come. We have been blessed with a number of Piet gu
ys during the build. It is always so nice to make new friends and share co
mmon interests. Great stuff.
do not archive
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Airworthiness Certificate !!!
> From: Scott.liefeld@lacity.org
> Date: Fri=2C 13 Jul 2012 09:34:29 -0700
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>
ity.org>
>
> Hi Vic=2C
>
> Perhaps I can fly up this weekend. Porterville is only about 1.7 hour fli
ght for me.
>
> Here is my contact info.
>
> Scott Liefeld
> Hm: 661-718-1155
> Cell: 611-400-1876
> Home email: pietman@qnet.com
>
> --------
> Scott Liefeld
> Flying N11MS since March 1972
> Steel Tube
> C-85-12
> Wire Wheels
> Brodhead in 1996
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=378201#378201
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
===========
===========
===========
===========
>
>
>
Message 13
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Airworthiness Certificate !!! |
I like Sat. Sunday would be ok if it were better for you. Either way, it's going
to be hot. I would leave early in the morning. I don't think it gets foggy
in the valley this time of the year.
--------
Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=378206#378206
Message 14
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Safetying Worm Drive Hose Clamps |
Just got off the phone with the FAA inspector, discussing my up-coming inspection.
He warned that one of his cramps is un-safetied worm drive hose clamps. Anyone
know a good method of safetying these?
Gary from Cool
Sent on the Sprint Now Network from my BlackBerry
Message 15
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Safetying Worm Drive Hose Clamps |
Throu the slot and around the body, going under the exposed part of the screw.
Does that make sense? I can try and get a picture when I get home if you'd like.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 13, 2012, at 4:01 PM, gboothe5@comcast.net wrote:
>
> Just got off the phone with the FAA inspector, discussing my up-coming inspection.
He warned that one of his cramps is un-safetied worm drive hose clamps.
Anyone know a good method of safetying these?
>
> Gary from Cool
> Sent on the Sprint Now Network from my BlackBerry
>
>
>
>
>
Message 16
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Safetying Worm Drive Hose Clamps |
He must have a cow any time he flies in a Cub. Every A65 Continental has 16
worm drive hose clamps holding the pushrod tubes in place, and I've never
seen a safety on any of them. Worm gear drives don't tend to move with
vibration.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
gboothe5@comcast.net
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 4:01 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Safetying Worm Drive Hose Clamps
Just got off the phone with the FAA inspector, discussing my up-coming
inspection. He warned that one of his cramps is un-safetied worm drive hose
clamps. Anyone know a good method of safetying these?
Gary from Cool
Sent on the SprintR Now Network from my BlackBerryR
Message 17
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Powder coating question |
Group,
A friend of mine wants to give me a warming oven she used to use in her
catering business. I thought about using it for powder coating, it's
large almost 3ft deep, industrial, stainless steel and on casters. The
only problem I think is that the oven only goes to 350 degrees. What is
the temp range that most have used for powder coating? I assume powder
manufactures may have their own cure temps, just curious to what the
range of temps might be.
Brian
<<Picture (Device Independent Bitmap)>> <<Picture (Device Independent
Bitmap)>>
Brian Jardine
L-3 Communications
Operations Project Engineer
640 North 2200 West
P.O.Box 16850
Salt Lake City, UT 84116
L <<Picture (Device Independent Bitmap)>> <<Picture (Device
Independent Bitmap)>>
801-594-3482
801-882-0213 BB
brian.e.jardine@L-3com.com
Message 18
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Safetying Worm Drive Hose Clamps |
I agree with Jack, but here is a link that might help to make your inspector happy
and provide you with some peace of mind:
http://avidflyer.wikia.com/wiki/Safety_Wire_Those_Worm_Drive_Clamps
--------
David Gallagher
Zodiac 601 XL-B: flying, 220+ hours now
Next project under construction: Finish my father's Aircamper
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=378227#378227
Message 19
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Safetying Worm Drive Hose Clamps |
No rush, Matthew, but I think I would like to see that picture.
Thanks,
Gary
Do not archive
------Original Message------
From: Matthew
Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
ReplyTo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Safetying Worm Drive Hose Clamps
Sent: Jul 13, 2012 1:10 PM
Throu the slot and around the body, going under the exposed part of the screw.
Does that make sense? I can try and get a picture when I get home if you'd like.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 13, 2012, at 4:01 PM, gboothe5@comcast.net wrote:
>
> Just got off the phone with the FAA inspector, discussing my up-coming inspection.
He warned that one of his cramps is un-safetied worm drive hose clamps.
Anyone know a good method of safetying these?
>
> Gary from Cool
> Sent on the Sprint Now Network from my BlackBerry
>
>
>
>
>
Sent on the Sprint Now Network from my BlackBerry
Message 20
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Safetying Worm Drive Hose Clamps |
Thanks, Dave! Someday soon I'll be an avid flyer, but not an Avid flyer...
This inspector came highly recommended by two builders who recently had airworthiness
inspections done by him. They said his counterparts were too, "anal"!
He did say that he's been doing this for 40 years, now, but still runs into new
stuff that affects safety. His main request is that guys like you & I will carry
the message out into the world...a reasonable and caring request!
Gary
------Original Message------
From: DaveG601XL
Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
ReplyTo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Safetying Worm Drive Hose Clamps
Sent: Jul 13, 2012 1:28 PM
I agree with Jack, but here is a link that might help to make your inspector happy
and provide you with some peace of mind:
http://avidflyer.wikia.com/wiki/Safety_Wire_Those_Worm_Drive_Clamps
--------
David Gallagher
Zodiac 601 XL-B: flying, 220+ hours now
Next project under construction: Finish my father's Aircamper
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=378227#378227
Sent on the Sprint Now Network from my BlackBerry
Message 21
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Safetying Worm Drive Hose Clamps |
Tell him to get over it. They don't need safetying. Tell him to look at the thousands
of certified aircraft flying around out there without a single one being
saftied. That is total BS, and a perfect example of someone who doesn't know
sh#t about anything trying to act like he does.
Gene
Do not archive
On Jul 13, 2012, at 4:31 PM, gboothe5@comcast.net wrote:
>
> No rush, Matthew, but I think I would like to see that picture.
>
> Thanks,
> Gary
> Do not archive
> ------Original Message------
> From: Matthew
> Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> ReplyTo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Safetying Worm Drive Hose Clamps
> Sent: Jul 13, 2012 1:10 PM
>
>
> Throu the slot and around the body, going under the exposed part of the screw.
>
> Does that make sense? I can try and get a picture when I get home if you'd like.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 13, 2012, at 4:01 PM, gboothe5@comcast.net wrote:
>
>>
>> Just got off the phone with the FAA inspector, discussing my up-coming inspection.
He warned that one of his cramps is un-safetied worm drive hose clamps.
Anyone know a good method of safetying these?
>>
>> Gary from Cool
>> Sent on the Sprint Now Network from my BlackBerry
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent on the Sprint Now Network from my BlackBerry
>
>
>
>
>
>
Message 22
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Safetying Worm Drive Hose Clamps |
Here is how I do it, I just did this right quick so it's not the prettiest, b
ut gets the point across
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 13, 2012, at 4:31 PM, gboothe5@comcast.net wrote:
>
> No rush, Matthew, but I think I would like to see that picture.
>
> Thanks,
> Gary
> Do not archive
> ------Original Message------
> From: Matthew
> Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> ReplyTo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Safetying Worm Drive Hose Clamps
> Sent: Jul 13, 2012 1:10 PM
>
m>
>
> Throu the slot and around the body, going under the exposed part of the sc
rew.
>
> Does that make sense? I can try and get a picture when I get home if you'd
like.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 13, 2012, at 4:01 PM, gboothe5@comcast.net wrote:
>
>>
>> Just got off the phone with the FAA inspector, discussing my up-coming in
spection. He warned that one of his cramps is un-safetied worm drive hose cl
amps. Anyone know a good method of safetying these?
>>
>> Gary from Cool
>> Sent on the Sprint=C2=AE Now Network from my BlackBerry=C2=AE
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent on the Sprint=C2=AE Now Network from my BlackBerry=C2=AE
>
>
==========================
=========
==========================
=========
==========================
=========
==========================
=========
>
>
>
<pre><b><font size=2 color="#000000" face="courier new,courier">
</b></font></pre></body></html>
Message 23
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Safetying Worm Drive Hose Clamps |
Yet the technique does exist, and has been recognized by at least one manufacturer.
It took less than two minutes to do one.
This inspector came highly recommended by two builders who recently had airworthiness
inspections done by him. They said his counterparts were too, "anal"!
He did say that he's been doing this for 40 years, now, but still runs into new
stuff that affects safety. His main request is that guys like you & I will carry
the message out into the world...a reasonable and caring request!
Gary
Sent on the Sprint Now Network from my BlackBerry
-----Original Message-----
From: Gene Rambo <generambo@msn.com>
Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
Tell him to get over it. They don't need safetying. Tell him to look at the thousands
of certified aircraft flying around out there without a single one being
saftied. That is total BS, and a perfect example of someone who doesn't know
sh#t about anything trying to act like he does.
Gene
Do not archive
On Jul 13, 2012, at 4:31 PM, gboothe5@comcast.net wrote:
>
> No rush, Matthew, but I think I would like to see that picture.
>
> Thanks,
> Gary
> Do not archive
> ------Original Message------
> From: Matthew
> Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> ReplyTo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Safetying Worm Drive Hose Clamps
> Sent: Jul 13, 2012 1:10 PM
>
>
> Throu the slot and around the body, going under the exposed part of the screw.
>
> Does that make sense? I can try and get a picture when I get home if you'd like.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 13, 2012, at 4:01 PM, gboothe5@comcast.net wrote:
>
>>
>> Just got off the phone with the FAA inspector, discussing my up-coming inspection.
He warned that one of his cramps is un-safetied worm drive hose clamps.
Anyone know a good method of safetying these?
>>
>> Gary from Cool
>> Sent on the Sprint Now Network from my BlackBerry
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent on the Sprint Now Network from my BlackBerry
>
>
>
>
>
>
Message 24
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Safetying Worm Drive Hose Clamps |
There are lots of things that can be done to improve safety without it being something
mindless and unnecessary. I have been trying to think of ANY airplane
that does not have those clamps, but can't. Trying to list how many I can think
of in EVERY airplane, it is a lot. Trying to think of when I have ever seen
one safetied....NEVER. And when I have ever seen or heard of one backing off......again
NEVER. He just picked some meaningless trivia and is clinging to it
as if it is improving safety...it isn't.
Gene
Do not archive
On Jul 13, 2012, at 5:26 PM, gboothe5@comcast.net wrote:
>
> Yet the technique does exist, and has been recognized by at least one manufacturer.
It took less than two minutes to do one.
>
> This inspector came highly recommended by two builders who recently had airworthiness
inspections done by him. They said his counterparts were too, "anal"!
>
> He did say that he's been doing this for 40 years, now, but still runs into new
stuff that affects safety. His main request is that guys like you & I will
carry the message out into the world...a reasonable and caring request!
>
> Gary
> Sent on the Sprint Now Network from my BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gene Rambo <generambo@msn.com>
> Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 17:14:36
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com<pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
>
>
> Tell him to get over it. They don't need safetying. Tell him to look at the
thousands of certified aircraft flying around out there without a single one being
saftied. That is total BS, and a perfect example of someone who doesn't know
sh#t about anything trying to act like he does.
>
> Gene
>
> Do not archive
>
> On Jul 13, 2012, at 4:31 PM, gboothe5@comcast.net wrote:
>
>>
>> No rush, Matthew, but I think I would like to see that picture.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Gary
>> Do not archive
>> ------Original Message------
>> From: Matthew
>> Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
>> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>> ReplyTo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Safetying Worm Drive Hose Clamps
>> Sent: Jul 13, 2012 1:10 PM
>>
>>
>> Throu the slot and around the body, going under the exposed part of the screw.
>>
>> Does that make sense? I can try and get a picture when I get home if you'd like.
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jul 13, 2012, at 4:01 PM, gboothe5@comcast.net wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Just got off the phone with the FAA inspector, discussing my up-coming inspection.
He warned that one of his cramps is un-safetied worm drive hose clamps.
Anyone know a good method of safetying these?
>>>
>>> Gary from Cool
>>> Sent on the Sprint Now Network from my BlackBerry
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent on the Sprint Now Network from my BlackBerry
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Message 25
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Brodhead weather forecast... |
CkNhbiB3ZSBqdXN0IGdvIGFscmVhZHk/IMKgSSB3YW5uYSBnbyBOT1cuLi4ud2UgcGxhbiBvbiBw
dWxsaW5nIGluIGFyb3VuZCA2cG0gb3Igc28gbmV4dCBUaHVyc2RheSBhbmQgc3VyZSBhcmUgbG9v
a2luZyBmb3J3YXJkIHRvIHNlZWluZyBldmVyeW9uZSEKCkxvb2tzIGxpa2UgaXQgbWlnaHQgYmUg
d2V0IChhcyB1c3VhbCkgYnV0IGEgbG90IGNvb2xlciB0aGFuIGp1c3QgYWJvdXQgZXZlcnl3aGVy
ZSBlbHNlIQoKSmltIGluIEhPVCBQcnlvci4uLi4KCkRvIG5vdCBhcmNoaXZlCgpTZW50IHZpYSBz
bWFydHBob25lLi4uLnNvIHBsZWFzZSBpZ25vcmUgbXkgYmFkIHNwZWxpbmcuLi4u
Message 26
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Brodhead weather forecast... |
We are ready too Jim... ready to get on the road. We leave Sunday morning... I
wish it was tomorrow, except we would get there too early and would be camping
alone for DAYS! We will be pulling in on Wednesday if we have no weather delays.
--------
Shelley Tumino
IT Girl
wife of "Axel"
NX899KP
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=378242#378242
Message 27
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Sensenich wood 72x42 (great shape, 150 hrs since new) for a Sensenich metal 72x42
or 42x44. For use on a Piet, doesn't need to be certified.
Or for ANYTHING that my engine will spin up to 2250 on the ground. It's a taper
shaft Continental A-65.
Mike Danford, 423 580 1383
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=378244#378244
Message 28
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Brodhead weather forecast... |
I just checked the forecast for my route of flight (it will change though)
and it looks pretty good.- Tailwinds forcast for the way to and from Brod
head.- I will wash the airplane this weekend, and load up the camping gea
r and if plans don't change should arive mid afternoon on thursday.- Ther
e is still a possibility that I might have family obligations that might pr
event me from going but I will update as I find out.
-
Shad
--- On Fri, 7/13/12, IT Girl <shlizbth@gmail.com> wrote:
From: IT Girl <shlizbth@gmail.com>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Brodhead weather forecast...
We are ready too Jim... ready to get on the road.- We leave Sunday mornin
g... I wish it was tomorrow, except we would get there too early and would
be camping alone for DAYS!- We will be pulling in on Wednesday if we have
no weather delays.
--------
Shelley Tumino
IT Girl
wife of "Axel"
NX899KP
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=378242#378242
le, List Admin.
Message 29
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Safetying Worm Drive Hose Clamps |
I worked on regional jets for 12 years, the generator cooling ducts were ne
ver saftied, and I never saw one loose.- 300+ hrs on the piet, and none o
f the clamps have come loose.- Just saftey it, make him happy so he gets
off your backand then do as you wish.- It is usually up to the manufactur
er to decide what is safe for a particular aircraft, and who is the manufac
turer......You are.- One way to saftey it is to find a drilled head screw
(or make one) and wrap the saftey wire around the back side of the lug the
screw threads into.- That is how I have saftied them, when it was called
out in the maintenance mannual.
-
Good luck,
Shad
don't archive
--- On Fri, 7/13/12, Gene Rambo <generambo@msn.com> wrote:
From: Gene Rambo <generambo@msn.com>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Safetying Worm Drive Hose Clamps
There are lots of things that can be done to improve safety without it bein
g something mindless and unnecessary.- I have been trying to think of ANY
airplane that does not have those clamps, but can't. Trying to list how ma
ny I can think of in EVERY airplane, it is a lot. Trying to think of when I
have ever seen one safetied....NEVER. And when I have ever seen or heard o
f one backing off......again NEVER.- He just picked some meaningless triv
ia and is clinging to it as if it is improving safety...it isn't.-
Gene
Do not archive
On Jul 13, 2012, at 5:26 PM, gboothe5@comcast.net wrote:
>
> Yet the technique does exist, and has been recognized by at least one man
ufacturer. It took less than two minutes to do one.
>
> This inspector came highly recommended by two builders who recently had a
irworthiness inspections done by him. They said his counterparts were too,
"anal"!
>
> He did say that he's been doing this for 40 years, now, but still runs in
to new stuff that affects safety. His main request is that guys like you &
I will carry the message out into the world...a reasonable and caring reque
st!
>
> Gary
> Sent on the Sprint=AE Now Network from my BlackBerry=AE
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gene Rambo <generambo@msn.com>
> Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 17:14:36
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com<pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
ing Worm Drive Hose Clamps
>
>
> Tell him to get over it. They don't need safetying.- Tell him to look a
t the thousands of certified aircraft flying around out there without a sin
gle one being saftied. That is total BS, and a perfect example of someone w
ho doesn't know sh#t about anything trying to act like he does.
>
> Gene
>
> Do not archive
>
> On Jul 13, 2012, at 4:31 PM, gboothe5@comcast.net wrote:
>
>>
>> No rush, Matthew, but I think I would like to see that picture.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Gary
>> Do not archive
>> ------Original Message------
>> From: Matthew
>> Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
>> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>> ReplyTo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Safetying Worm Drive Hose Clamps
>> Sent: Jul 13, 2012 1:10 PM
>>
com>
>>
>> Throu the slot and around the body, going under the exposed part of the
screw.
>>
>> Does that make sense? I can try and get a picture when I get home if you
'd like.
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jul 13, 2012, at 4:01 PM, gboothe5@comcast.net wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Just got off the phone with the FAA inspector, discussing my up-coming
inspection. He warned that one of his cramps is un-safetied worm drive hose
clamps. Anyone know a good method of safetying these?
>>>
>>> Gary from Cool
>>> Sent on the Sprint=AE Now Network from my BlackBerry=AE
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent on the Sprint=AE Now Network from my BlackBerry=AE
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
le, List Admin.
Message 30
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Safetying Worm Drive Hose Clamps |
Dave and Matthew,
Thanks for the pictures and the link...it is very clear and easy to do! I
cannot say what the motivation is for this inspector. In our 20 minute phone
conversation, he gave me some insight about his work. I can't imagine how it
must feel to inspect and approve a plane, only to learn of it crashing hours
later...no matter who's fault. He may have an anecdotal story to support his
quest to see hose clamps safetied. It's a small chore.
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of DaveG601XL
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 1:28 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Safetying Worm Drive Hose Clamps
--> <david.m.gallagher@ge.com>
I agree with Jack, but here is a link that might help to make your inspector
happy and provide you with some peace of mind:
http://avidflyer.wikia.com/wiki/Safety_Wire_Those_Worm_Drive_Clamps
--------
David Gallagher
Zodiac 601 XL-B: flying, 220+ hours now
Next project under construction: Finish my father's Aircamper
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=378227#378227
Message 31
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
The website has been down for a few days. Does anyone know how to contact the
webmaster to see if we can get it up again?
Thanks
Do not archive
--------
John Francis
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=378256#378256
Message 32
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Powder coating question |
Powder coating questionEastwood powder coating requires 400 F.
Lots of tech stuff on their website:
http://www.eastwood.com/hotcoat-powder-coating.html?srccode=ga200100&gc
lid=CKWursiGmLECFYcBQAodkzJCgw
Greg Cardinal
----- Original Message -----
From: brian.e.jardine@l-3com.com
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 3:25 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Powder coating question
Group,
A friend of mine wants to give me a warming oven she used to use in
her catering business. I thought about using it for powder coating,
it's large almost 3ft deep, industrial, stainless steel and on casters.
The only problem I think is that the oven only goes to 350 degrees.
What is the temp range that most have used for powder coating? I assume
powder manufactures may have their own cure temps, just curious to what
the range of temps might be.
Brian
Brian Jardine
L-3 Communications
Operations Project Engineer
640 North 2200 West
P.O.Box 16850
Salt Lake City, UT 84116
L
801-594-3482
801-882-0213 BB
brian.e.jardine@L-3com.com
Message 33
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
I'm using a Sensenich 72X40 wood prop, and it will turn 2250 on the
ground. What kind of RPM are you getting max power in level flight?
Ben CHarvet
A-65 Piet
On 7/13/2012 6:37 PM, tools wrote:
>
> Sensenich wood 72x42 (great shape, 150 hrs since new) for a Sensenich metal 72x42
or 42x44. For use on a Piet, doesn't need to be certified.
>
> Or for ANYTHING that my engine will spin up to 2250 on the ground. It's a taper
shaft Continental A-65.
>
> Mike Danford, 423 580 1383
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=378244#378244
>
>
--
Ben Charvet, PharmD
Staff Pharmacist
Parrish Medical center
Message 34
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | turnbuckes for sale |
I have (8) 1/16" turnbuckles with only the barrel and eye end (no fork end
included). Think I have about $40 in to them - would like to get that out
of them. If anyone's interested=2C lemme know. I'm in Minneapolis area.
Tom B.
Message 35
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
1900 static, 2000 in flight during climb, maybe 2250 totally unloaded. AND just
doesn't climb well. I borrowed a Sensenich metal 72x44 and got 2250 static.
Climbed really well. Have a Macauley metal 71x45 on now and am getting 2000
static. A little better than the wood 72x42, but I REALLY liked the Sensenich.
I reckon about any prop that duplicates the static rpm should perform about
as well.
I LOVE the look of the wood and like propping them better, but love climbing even
more. It's one of my favorite things to do in a plane! Climbing just gets
me all tingly!
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=378260#378260
Message 36
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | corvair heads for sale |
Shoot - meant to put it in the same post as the turnbuckles...
Anyway - I have a few corvair heads (cores) for sale if anyone wants them.
Make me a reasonable offer - although shipping can be rough. If anyone's
going to Brodhead next weekend from Minneapolis area maybe they could bring
them down there if someone wants them.
Tom B.
Other Matronics Email List Services
These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.
-- Please support this service by making your Contribution today! --
|