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     2. 06:33 AM - Re: Kevin Purtee Update (scudrun)
     3. 06:53 AM - Re: motorcycle wheels - bronze bearings (scudrun)
     4. 08:00 AM - Re: Re: Kevin Purtee Update (Isablcorky@aol.com)
     5. 08:09 AM - Re: Re: motorcycle wheels - bronze bearings (Michael Perez)
     6. 08:31 AM - Re: Re: prop clearence (Gene Rambo)
     7. 08:45 AM - Re: Kevin Purtee Update (IT Girl)
     8. 08:50 AM - Re: motorcycle wheels - bronze bearings (scudrun)
     9. 09:21 AM - Re: Re: motorcycle wheels - bronze bearings (Michael Perez)
    10. 09:24 AM - Re: Ford Engine Conversion (DO NOT ARCHIVE)
    11. 09:40 AM - 4100 series magnetos ()
    12. 10:03 AM - Re: Ford Engine Conversion (Jim Markle)
    13. 02:39 PM - Re: motorcycle wheels - bronze bearings engine Q, too. (V Groah)
    14. 02:52 PM - Re: motorcycle wheels - bronze bearings (scudrun)
    15. 03:10 PM - Kevin Purtee Update part Deaux (IT Girl)
    16. 03:14 PM - Re: Kevin Purtee Update part Deaux (brian.e.jardine@l-3com.com)
    17. 04:06 PM - Re: Kevin Purtee Update part Deaux (Max Hegler)
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    20. 05:17 PM - Re: Kevin Purtee Update part Deaux (proplock)
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    22. 05:27 PM - The Accident (C N Campbell)
    23. 05:31 PM - Re: Re: Kevin Purtee Update part Deaux (shad bell)
    24. 06:06 PM - Re: Re: Kevin Purtee Update part Deaux (Andrew Eldredge)
    25. 06:15 PM - Re: The Accident (Andrew Eldredge)
    26. 06:35 PM - Re: Kevin Purtee Update part Deaux (wd6bor)
    27. 07:33 PM - Re: Kevin Purtee Update part Deaux (Jim Boyer)
    28. 07:52 PM - Hacked Email Address (Pieti Lowell)
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    30. 10:00 PM - Re: motorcycle wheels - bronze bearings engine Q, too.exelent (jorge lizarraga)
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| Subject:  | Ford Engine Conversion | 
      
      
      I just bought a Model A engine for my project.  The engine is in good working order
      and clean as a whistle.  So now I am starting to analyze what needs to be
      done.  I guess I am wondering what deviations from the plans are common.  For
      example, what mag is commonly used?  And are we still using shoe leather for
      the coupling?  Or is there a trick set up?  I am sure I want to do some improvements
      (i.e. Ron Kelly) to improve HP. Insert bearings and so forth. Heads  .
      . .  Modified for aircraft plugs?  Which ones? Aircraft carb?
      
      Any pointers or suggestions would be great.
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Kevin Purtee Update | 
      
      
      I don't really know anyone here yet but I read the news and just want to say I'm
      sorry to hear about the accident but also glad it sounds like Kevin is doing
      alright.  I hope he and the airplane are back flying again soon.
      
      Best regards
      Joe
      
      
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      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=379150#379150
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: motorcycle wheels - bronze bearings | 
      
      
      I took the cub style wheels off my Piet on the weekend and had a look at the axles.
      They are 1-1/2" diameter and 5-3/4" from the end to the outside face of the
      brake shoe mounting plate.  If I remove the plate I gain 1/16" at the axle,
      but the shoes extend out about 3/4" so if I want to use these brakes I have only
      about 4" length to use between the plates that get drilled for the spokes.
      From what I gather that is not enough.  I would really like to be able to make
      hubs that fit the existing axles without modifying them. What I have been thinking
      about is getting rid of the hydraulic brakes and fitting the mechanical
      band brakes that I saw discussed on this forum. 
      
      I'm thinking that I could design a hub which has a larger diameter flange at the
      inside end which could act as both a place to attach the spokes and also the
      brake drum protruding in the direction of the landing gear struts and weld a
      bracket to the strut to hold the brake band.  This would require that all the
      spokes be inserted from the hub end toward the center rather than alternating
      over/under as I typically see with spoked wheels.  If I take this approach the
      hub end of the spokes can be basically 5-3/4" apart.  Is this enough?  Can anybody
      here see a problem with this idea?
      
      Any comments about the band brakes too would be appreciated, are they strong enough
      to allow a decent run up, do they tend to grab when used?
      
      Thanks for any insight anyone can offer.
      Joe
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Kevin Purtee Update | 
      
      
      In a message dated 7/25/2012 8:33:45 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
      jstreet@uwaterloo.ca writes:
      
      -->  Pietenpol-List message posted by: "scudrun"  <jstreet@uwaterloo.ca>
      
      I don't really know anyone here yet but I  read the news and just want to 
      say I'm sorry to hear about the accident but  also glad it sounds like Kevin 
      is doing alright.  I hope he and the  airplane are back flying again soon.
      
      Best  regards
      Joe
      
      
      Read this topic online  here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=379150#379150
      
      
      Have been off the net for sometime. Would someone be so kind as to give me  
      the particulars of Kevin Purtee's plight. Corky
      
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| Subject:  | Re: motorcycle wheels - bronze bearings | 
      
      Hello Joe. You say you took the Cub style wheels off...do you have the Cub 
      style landing gear or the straight, Jenny style?
      
      Attached are two pictures showing you how I fabricated my hubs to use band 
      brakes. What you see is what you had described doing...large enough inside 
      flange to accommodate spokes and drum.- The second picture shows the flan
      ged bronze bushings and 4" brake drum in place. Note that the existing larg
      e center hole in the brake drum fits nicely around the flange bushing.- T
      he entire assembly is a nice little package.- As you can see, I have my s
      pokes "over/under" on the hubs. Make the flange large enough so the spokes 
      will fit well outside the brake drum.- (Not clear why you feel the spokes
       all need to be fitted one way only.)- 
      
      I had asked about the type of landing gear used because you comment about w
      elding the bracket for the band itself on to the "strut". I can't picture w
      hat you mean here.- My band bracket is welded to the axle...which I under
      stand you have a limited amount of room on.
      
      The going agreement about hub width for brakes on a straight axle/Jenny lan
      ding geared Pietenpol is 6".- 
      
      My plane is not flying so I can't comment on the holding power. My brakes a
      re solely designed to prevent the plane from rolling into other planes, fue
      l pumps, people, etc. between engine shut down and chocks.- If they hold 
      well enough to do a mag. check, that will be a bonus! 
      
      One thing to consider is wheel diameter. With small 6"-8" wheels/tires, the
       brakes may hold quite well. With the large wheels, (mine are 21")- there
       is a lot more mechanical advantage the brakes need to overcome.
      
      Michael Perez
      =0APietenpol HINT Videos
      =0AKaretaker Aero
      =0Awww.karetakeraero.com
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: prop clearence | 
      
      
      76" prop. Model A, 21" wheels, 12" prop clearance. 
      
      Gene
      
      On Jul 24, 2012, at 9:44 PM, "BYD" <billsayre@ymail.com> wrote:
      
      > 
      > Model A and 76" prop 19" wheels.....8.5 inches
      > 
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      > Please check with Larry "TC" Williams before archiving, otherwise,
      > DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject:  | Re: Kevin Purtee Update | 
      
      
      http://www.nbc15.com/home/headlines/Plane-Crash-at-Brodhead-Airport-163370326.html#.UA_LlHEewWo.facebook
      
      
      [quote="Isablcorky(at)aol.com"]In a message dated 7/25/2012 8:33:45 A.M. Central
      Daylight Time,  jstreet@uwaterloo.ca writes:
      
      > -->    Pietenpol-List message posted by: "scudrun"    
      > 
      > I don't really know anyone here yet but I    read the news and just want to say
      I'm sorry to hear about the accident but    also glad it sounds like Kevin
      is doing alright.  I hope he and the    airplane are back flying again soon.
      > 
      > Best    regards
      > Joe
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > Read this topic online    here:
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      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=379150#379150
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       Have been off the net for sometime. Would someone be so kind as to give me  the
      particulars of Kevin Purtee's plight. Corky
      
      > [b]
      
      
      --------
      Shelley Tumino
      IT Girl
      wife of "Axel"
      NX899KP
      
      DO NOT ARCHIVE
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=379157#379157
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: motorcycle wheels - bronze bearings | 
      
      
      Hi Michael
      
      This is pretty much what I had in mind except I had envisioned making the inner
      flange only large enough to encompass the bolt circle for the brake drum and
      drilling the spoke hole circle within this so that the spoke heads are countersunk
      under the brake drum.  Your way of mounting the spokes on a larger diameter
      circle allows the inner/outer lacing.  Maybe I'll do that too.  I can't find
      any information on what size hole for what gauge spoke but I gather most people
      are using 8 or 9 gauge.
      
      I'm not sure what you mean by cub vs jenny style axles.  Here is a couple of photos
      of the plane if that helps.
      
      Joe
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=379159#379159
      
      
      Attachments: 
      
      http://forums.matronics.com//files/imgp0773_168.jpg
      http://forums.matronics.com//files/imgp0811_979.jpg
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: motorcycle wheels - bronze bearings | 
      
      Pictures are great. I just did not want to assume what type of gear you had
      , I see clearly now what you have and what you want to do.
      
      I don't know if there is any harm lacing spokes all from one side of the hu
      b. I have seen it done before, but I BELIEVE only on non-brake wheels. I kn
      ow you need the cross lacing for brakes, just not clear on the over-under.
      - I had one wheel loose-laced and it was returned to me with the over/und
      er so I copied that on the other wheel assembly.
      
      You will need some clearance between the brake drum and hub for the band it
      self. The band is wider than the drum. I had to use two washers under my dr
      um at each bolt location to provide room between the band and the spokes.
      - The drum fit fine with no washers...just mounted directly on the hub, b
      ut when I had the band positioned over the drum, the band rubbed the spokes
      .- I did not want to move the band itself away from the spokes because th
      en it would not grab the entire width of the drum.-- 
      
      If you lace all your spokes from the inside, you may not have a rubbing iss
      ue. But, again, I am not sure if lacing that way is good or bad.
      
      There are a lot of "weird" loads on spoked wheels...more so with an airplan
      e because of side loading...crabbed landings as an example.- Brake loads 
      add to the equation.- If you research the DOs and DON'Ts on lacing spokes
       the way you mention, please advise us...I would like to know what you find
      .
      
      You have the Cub style gear. Other Pietenpols use the straight axle...the a
      xle is a long straight piece of pipe braced with wood struts. This is a typ
      ical Jenny type style.
      
      Michael Perez
      =0APietenpol HINT Videos
      =0AKaretaker Aero
      =0Awww.karetakeraero.com
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Ford Engine Conversion | 
      
      
      I typed up a response but then went back and realized that it was almost 750 words.
      I don't want to clog anyone's inbox, so if you're interested please email
      me directly.
      
      --------
      Brett Phillips
      PLEASE DO NOT ARCHIVE!
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=379160#379160
      
      
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| Subject:  | 4100 series magnetos | 
      
      This is a bit off topic since a lot of you use the Model A or Corvair engine but
      with all the accumulated knowledge here I thought I would ask. Does anyone know
      how to time the older slick 4100 series magnetos? I need to take them off
      a O-200 and remove the accessory cover then replace them and have to make sure
      the timing is right but all I can find on the internet boils down to "replace
      them after 800 hours" The engine only has a few hundred hours on it and they
      work fine plus I really can't afford to drop a couple grand on new magnetos. Rodney
      Hall Do Not Archive
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Ford Engine Conversion | 
      
      
      Maybe a good, in depth Model A response should NOT have that "do not archive" wording
      included....  :-)
      
      I, and I'm probably not alone, would love to see what you have Brett.  If you would
      rather not have it on the Matronics list, please cc me when you send it.
      
      thanks!
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      >From: DO NOT ARCHIVE <bphillip@shentel.net>
      >Sent: Jul 25, 2012 11:24 AM
      >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      >Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Ford Engine Conversion
      >
      >
      >I typed up a response but then went back and realized that it was almost 750 words.
      I don't want to clog anyone's inbox, so if you're interested please email
      me directly.
      >
      >--------
      >Brett Phillips
      >PLEASE DO NOT ARCHIVE!
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      >Read this topic online here:
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      >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=379160#379160
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| Subject:  | motorcycle wheels - bronze bearings engine Q,  too. | 
      
      
      Nice to hear from you again.  We are so close yet seldom communicate.  It i
      s nice that you are still able to work on the plane some in-between making 
      a living and visiting family so far away.  
      
      You are welcome to come to visit.  Our plane is at the Porterville airport.
        We would be happy to share information.  Keep up the good work.  Vic 
      
      do not archive 
      
      
      From: flightwood@yahoo.com
      Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: motorcycle wheels - bronze bearings engine Q
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      From: V Groah <vgroah@hotmail.com>
      Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: motorcycle wheels - bronze bearings
      
      
      1 1/2 should be plenty.  The plane is not that heavy.  Ours are about that 
      and seem fine. 
      
      Vic NX414MV
      
      do not archive
      
      
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: motorcycle wheels - bronze bearings
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| Subject:  | Re: motorcycle wheels - bronze bearings | 
      
      
      I checked with Buchanan's and you are correct that inside/outside lacing is needed
      when brakes are used.  The reason is that with brakes the spokes have to be
      cross laced to take the torsional load.  Lacing in alternating inside/outside
      pattern allows clearance for the spokes to criss cross without interference.
      All one side spokes would interfere.  If there are no brakes the spokes can
      go radially from the hub to rim and don't have to criss cross so they can be laced
      all from one side.
      
      I was looking at SS tube/pipe sizes and I think I will go with a sched 80 1-1/2
      in.  pipe which is 1.900 in. OD and 0.200 in. wall which will allow for machining
      the inside to 1.750 in. for the bushings and leave 0.075 in. wall thickness.
      
      Looks like you went with stainless as well.  Nice job!  I hope I end up with something
      as nice as those.
      
      Joe
      
      
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| Subject:  | Kevin Purtee Update part Deaux | 
      
      
      Your prayers are working!  We have had several visitors today, thanks Michael Cuy,
      Rob Busch, Matt Paxton, Lynn Paxton, John Hofmann, and Ryan Mueller.  We are
      expecting a couple more visitors this evening.  They want to move him out of
      ICU today... can you believe it? Soon he will be on his feet.  My God is an
      AWESOME GOD.
      
      --------
      Shelley Tumino
      IT Girl
      wife of "Axel"
      NX899KP
      
      DO NOT ARCHIVE
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
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| Subject:  | Kevin Purtee Update part Deaux | 
      
      
      Congrats to you both......Happy to hear Kevin is doing so well.
      
      Brian
      SLC-UT
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      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of IT Girl
      Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 4:11 PM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Kevin Purtee Update part Deaux
      
      
      Your prayers are working!  We have had several visitors today, thanks
      Michael Cuy, Rob Busch, Matt Paxton, Lynn Paxton, John Hofmann, and Ryan
      Mueller.  We are expecting a couple more visitors this evening.  They
      want to move him out of ICU today... can you believe it? Soon he will be
      on his feet.  My God is an AWESOME GOD.
      
      --------
      Shelley Tumino
      IT Girl
      wife of "Axel"
      NX899KP
      
      DO NOT ARCHIVE
      
      
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| Subject:  | Kevin Purtee Update part Deaux | 
      
      
      Shelley=2C
      So glad to hear the great news! Obviously=2C you can't keep a good man down
      ! Dianne and I will continue to keep you in our prayers and hope for a full
       and speedy recovery. As always=2C if there is anything we or the Piet comm
      unity can do to help you get back home and settled in=2C let us know... som
      e of us old retired farts are always looking for something to do in between
       the covering=2C stitching and painting!
      Take Care=2CMax and Dianne
      
      > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Kevin Purtee Update part Deaux
      > From: shlizbth@gmail.com
      > Date: Wed=2C 25 Jul 2012 15:10:34 -0700
      > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      > 
      > 
      > Your prayers are working!  We have had several visitors today=2C thanks M
      ichael Cuy=2C Rob Busch=2C Matt Paxton=2C Lynn Paxton=2C John Hofmann=2C an
      d Ryan Mueller.  We are expecting a couple more visitors this evening.  The
      y want to move him out of ICU today... can you believe it? Soon he will be 
      on his feet.  My God is an AWESOME GOD.
      > 
      > --------
      > Shelley Tumino
      > IT Girl
      > wife of "=3BAxel"=3B
      > NX899KP
      > 
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      > 
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      > Read this topic online here:
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| Subject:  | Re: Kevin Purtee Update part Deaux | 
      
      
      Awesome news Shelley!  God is an AWESOME God!
      
      Don Emch
      NX899DE
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Kevin Purtee Update part Deaux | 
      
      
      Hi Shelly, that's great news please give Kevin my best. 
      Randy Bush
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      Sent from my iPhone
      
      On Jul 25, 2012, at 5:10 PM, "IT Girl" <shlizbth@gmail.com> wrote:
      
      > 
      > Your prayers are working!  We have had several visitors today, thanks Michael
      Cuy, Rob Busch, Matt Paxton, Lynn Paxton, John Hofmann, and Ryan Mueller.  We
      are expecting a couple more visitors this evening.  They want to move him out
      of ICU today... can you believe it? Soon he will be on his feet.  My God is an
      AWESOME GOD.
      > 
      > --------
      > Shelley Tumino
      > IT Girl
      > wife of "Axel"
      > NX899KP
      > 
      > DO NOT ARCHIVE
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      > 
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| Subject:  | Re: Kevin Purtee Update part Deaux | 
      
      
      Good news, sent prayers, blessings to both of you. Glad to see the Piet community
      is alive and well, great group. Kevin: keep'em moving !!!!
      
      --------
      A remarkable lad , capable of many things
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Kevin Purtee Update | 
      
      
      Shelley, 
      
      
      I'm so sorry to hear of Kevin's accident and hope=C2-he is recovering wel
      l and that you have your family close with you. 
      
      Though I am in Australia and have not met Kevin, yourself or any of the Pie
      tenpol forum members, my thoughts are with you and=C2-your family and I
      =C2-pray for=C2-Kevin's full recovery. 
      
      
      Best regards, 
      John Woods 
      Perth, Western Australia 
      
      
      ----- "IT Girl" <shlizbth@gmail.com> wrote: 
      
      http://www.nbc15.com/home/headlines/Plane-Crash-at-Brodhead-Airport-1633703
      26.html#.UA_LlHEewWo.facebook 
      
      
      [quote="Isablcorky(at)aol.com"]In a message dated 7/25/2012 8:33:45 A.M. 
      Central Daylight Time, =C2-jstreet@uwaterloo.ca writes: 
      =C2- 
      > --> =C2- =C2-Pietenpol-List message posted by: "scudrun" =C2- =C2
      - 
      > 
      > I don't really know anyone here yet but I =C2- =C2-read the news and 
      just want to say I'm sorry to hear about the accident but =C2- =C2-also
       glad it sounds like Kevin is doing alright. =C2-I hope he and the =C2-
       =C2-airplane are back flying again soon. 
      > 
      > Best =C2- =C2-regards 
      > Joe 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > Read this topic online =C2- =C2-here: 
      > 
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=379150#379150 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      
      =C2- 
      =C2-Have been off the net for sometime. Would someone be so kind as to gi
      ve me =C2-the particulars of Kevin Purtee's plight. Corky 
      =C2- 
      > [b] 
      
      
      -------- 
      Shelley Tumino 
      IT Girl 
      wife of "Axel" 
      NX899KP 
      
      DO NOT ARCHIVE 
      
      
      Read this topic online here: 
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=379157#379157 
      
      
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      Now that things have kind of settled down a bit, could someone let the 
      list members know what happened.  All I ever saw was that there was an 
      accident.  What was it?  Automobile? airplane? What happened? How did it 
      happen?  Chuck
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Kevin Purtee Update part Deaux | 
      
      Praise The Lord!- We'll continue to keep praying for you both.- Keep hi
      s spirits up, and tell him "Cool Gary", and Shad are pulling for him.- If
       there is anything we can help with let us know.
      -
      Sincerely,
      Shad
      -
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| Subject:  | Re: Kevin Purtee Update part Deaux | 
      
      Shelly
      
      What a great thing to hear of Kevin's progress.  I'll be looking forward to
      hearing from him.  Thank you for keeping us updated.  My heart is warmed by
      the outpouring of faith and well wishes I see aimed your way.  We have
      cause for gratitude.
      
      
      Andrew Eldredge
      Provo, UT
      
      
      On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 6:30 PM, shad bell <aviatorbell@yahoo.com> wrote:
      
      > Praise The Lord!  We'll continue to keep praying for you both.  Keep his
      > spirits up, and tell him "Cool Gary", and Shad are pulling for him.  If
      > there is anything we can help with let us know.
      >
      > Sincerely,
      > Shad
      >
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      >
      > *
      >
      > *
      >
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| Subject:  | Re: The Accident | 
      
      What has been said is that there was an accident as Kevin was departing
      Brodhead Texas bound.
      
      Although many of us are curious, I think it would be a good idea to respect
      the requests to keep speculation and discussion and particulars of the
      accident offline; Indefinitely perhaps, but certainly until the officials
      have done their work.   The eyewitnesses have been very circumspect in this
      regard.  I intend to suspend my curiosity until an appropriate time.
      
      Andrew Eldredge
      Provo, UT
      
      
      On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 6:27 PM, C N Campbell <cncampbell@windstream.net>wrote:
      
      > **
      > Now that things have kind of settled down a bit, could someone let the
      > list members know what happened.  All I ever saw was that there was an
      > accident.  What was it?  Automobile? airplane? What happened? How did it
      > happen?  Chuck
      >
      > *
      >
      > *
      >
      >
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Kevin Purtee Update part Deaux | 
      
      
      Shelly,
      
      I'm delighted to hear that Kevin is moving out of ICU and on the mend. I 
      had planned to make Brodhead this year but work didn't allow that. I'm 
      sorry I missed the good times and wonderful company at the Pietenpol 
      gathering.
      
      Let us know when it would be appropriate to tell Kevin to "head for the 
      pond, Axel!"
      
      Blessings and best wishes to both of you.
      
      Darrel Jones
      Sonoma, CA
      
      On 7/25/2012 3:10 PM, IT Girl wrote:
      > -->  Pietenpol-List message posted by: "IT Girl"<shlizbth@gmail.com>
      >
      > Your prayers are working!  We have had several visitors today, thanks Michael
      Cuy, Rob Busch, Matt Paxton, Lynn Paxton, John Hofmann, and Ryan Mueller.  We
      are expecting a couple more visitors this evening.  They want to move him out
      of ICU today... can you believe it? Soon he will be on his feet.  My God is an
      AWESOME GOD.
      >
      > --------
      > Shelley Tumino
      > IT Girl
      > wife of"Axel"
      > NX899KP
      >
      > DO NOT ARCHIVE
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      Fantastic Shelley, so glad Kevin is doing so well. We will continue to keep you
      and Kevin in our prayers; and yes our God is an awesome God. 
      
      Jim and Arlene 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Hacked Email Address | 
      
      
      Please do not send the thousands of dollars that my Email address is asking to
      send, I'm not in Spain, I did not lose my wallet nor phone.
      The crafty hacker accessed my Email address and changed the password which made
      it very difficult thing to stop the vulture from sending to my contacts . My
      new address will be forth-coming.or sent to those that want to contact me,
      When  asks to correct or verify your Address DO NOT respond, delete, 
      Pieti Lowell
      
      Don't archive
      
      
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      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=379195#379195
      
      
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| Subject:  | Hacked Email Address | 
      
      
      Too bad! The check was going out tomorrow...
      
      Gary Boothe
      NX308MB
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      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Pieti Lowell
      Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 7:52 PM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Hacked Email Address
      
      --> <Lowellcfrank@yahoo.com>
      
      Please do not send the thousands of dollars that my Email address is asking
      to send, I'm not in Spain, I did not lose my wallet nor phone.
      The crafty hacker accessed my Email address and changed the password which
      made it very difficult thing to stop the vulture from sending to my contacts
      . My new address will be forth-coming.or sent to those that want to contact
      me, When  asks to correct or verify your Address DO NOT respond, delete,
      Pieti Lowell
      
      Don't archive
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
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| Subject:  | motorcycle wheels - bronze bearings engine Q,  too.exelent | 
      
      tanks vi from now my hard season just stared sooner slow dow we contact i l
      ike to look your piet , take note to my proyect , whit all those parts im m
      ore closed to look like airplane tanks jorge from hanford
      
      --- On Wed, 7/25/12, V Groah <vgroah@hotmail.com> wrote:
      
      
      From: V Groah <vgroah@hotmail.com>
      Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: motorcycle wheels - bronze bearings engine Q, 
      too.
      
      
      Nice to hear from you again.- We are so close yet seldom communicate.-
      -It-is nice-that you are still able to work on the plane some in-betw
      een making a living and visiting family-so far away.- 
      -
      You are welcome to come to visit.- Our plane is at the Porterville airpor
      t.- We would be happy to share information.- Keep up the good work.- 
      Vic 
      -
      do not archive 
      
      -
      
      
      From: flightwood@yahoo.com
      Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: motorcycle wheels - bronze bearings engine Q, 
      too.
      
      
      hello vi ,jorge for hanford congrat about your piet and all tose tales you 
      sending us , bery helpfull for novice like my, in these pas mont I coming b
      ac fro mazatlan spend time whit my 4 year baby gilr and wife, when i bac to
       fresno wesnelson my american fhader get for my a new aereo v engine vw con
      vertion ,all complete include alot instrumet new bold tail weel, master cil
      inder for brake selenoide and alot thinks , big wonder full surprice, these
       parts coming fron kit unfinished dragon fly all new parts never used , i d
      on now homany horse power i haved but dragon fly is aroun 80-90horse power 
      needed and 1835-2300. i think is ok for piet but I don have idea how put in
       my plane , in these moment , cuting wooden strips from sticka spruce 86 st
      rips for my ribs i used 1932 side ribs, probaly for the side used okumy ply
      , I glon to now your almos fly your wonderfull museum piet plane, i hope ca
      nd see these plane later tanks for all your post vi,jorge from
       hanford
      
      --- On Mon, 7/23/12, V Groah <vgroah@hotmail.com> wrote:
      
      
      From: V Groah <vgroah@hotmail.com>
      Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: motorcycle wheels - bronze bearings
      
      
      1 1/2 should be plenty.- The plane is not that heavy.- Ours are about t
      hat and seem fine. 
      -
      Vic NX414MV
      -
      do not archive
      
      -
      
      
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: motorcycle wheels - bronze bearings
      From: lmforge@earthlink.net
      
      
      Tom,
      Get them from Mcmaster Carr
      
      
      Rick Schreiber
      NX478RS
      Valparaiso, In
      
      
      Sent from my iPad
      
      On Jul 23, 2012, at 8:36 PM, TOM MICHELLE BRANT <tmbrant@msn.com> wrote:
      
      
      those that have used motorcycle wheels with Bronze bearings, - where did yo
      u get your material for the bearings.- I'm assuming you used sleeved (fla
      nged) bearing but I can only find stuff that's 1 1/2" long.- Was thinking
       it should be the entire hub length.
      
      Tom B.
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Hacked Email Address | 
      
      
      Funny story, someone saw the email while on the field in Brodhead, and I said..
      didn't I just see him??
      
      --------
      Shelley Tumino
      IT Girl
      wife of "Axel"
      NX899KP
      
      DO NOT ARCHIVE
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
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| Subject:  | Re: The Accident | 
      
      
      Thank you guys.  I appreciate you curiosity, and your respect.  As Kevin strengthens,
      we will put out the information that you are looking for, mean while, this
      article covers the basics, except to say he was taking off when the incident
      occurred, not landing.
      
      http://www.wkow.com/story/19086263/pilot-injured-in-crash-near-brodhead
      
      --------
      Shelley Tumino
      IT Girl
      wife of "Axel"
      NX899KP
      
      DO NOT ARCHIVE
      
      
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