---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 07/25/12: 32 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:57 AM - Ford Engine Conversion (flyingbrick) 2. 06:33 AM - Re: Kevin Purtee Update (scudrun) 3. 06:53 AM - Re: motorcycle wheels - bronze bearings (scudrun) 4. 08:00 AM - Re: Re: Kevin Purtee Update (Isablcorky@aol.com) 5. 08:09 AM - Re: Re: motorcycle wheels - bronze bearings (Michael Perez) 6. 08:31 AM - Re: Re: prop clearence (Gene Rambo) 7. 08:45 AM - Re: Kevin Purtee Update (IT Girl) 8. 08:50 AM - Re: motorcycle wheels - bronze bearings (scudrun) 9. 09:21 AM - Re: Re: motorcycle wheels - bronze bearings (Michael Perez) 10. 09:24 AM - Re: Ford Engine Conversion (DO NOT ARCHIVE) 11. 09:40 AM - 4100 series magnetos () 12. 10:03 AM - Re: Ford Engine Conversion (Jim Markle) 13. 02:39 PM - Re: motorcycle wheels - bronze bearings engine Q, too. (V Groah) 14. 02:52 PM - Re: motorcycle wheels - bronze bearings (scudrun) 15. 03:10 PM - Kevin Purtee Update part Deaux (IT Girl) 16. 03:14 PM - Re: Kevin Purtee Update part Deaux (brian.e.jardine@l-3com.com) 17. 04:06 PM - Re: Kevin Purtee Update part Deaux (Max Hegler) 18. 04:51 PM - Re: Kevin Purtee Update part Deaux (Don Emch) 19. 04:55 PM - Re: Kevin Purtee Update part Deaux (Robert Bush) 20. 05:17 PM - Re: Kevin Purtee Update part Deaux (proplock) 21. 05:23 PM - Re: Re: Kevin Purtee Update (johnwoods@westnet.com.au) 22. 05:27 PM - The Accident (C N Campbell) 23. 05:31 PM - Re: Re: Kevin Purtee Update part Deaux (shad bell) 24. 06:06 PM - Re: Re: Kevin Purtee Update part Deaux (Andrew Eldredge) 25. 06:15 PM - Re: The Accident (Andrew Eldredge) 26. 06:35 PM - Re: Kevin Purtee Update part Deaux (wd6bor) 27. 07:33 PM - Re: Kevin Purtee Update part Deaux (Jim Boyer) 28. 07:52 PM - Hacked Email Address (Pieti Lowell) 29. 08:07 PM - Re: Hacked Email Address (Gary Boothe) 30. 10:00 PM - Re: motorcycle wheels - bronze bearings engine Q, too.exelent (jorge lizarraga) 31. 10:47 PM - Re: Hacked Email Address (IT Girl) 32. 10:54 PM - Re: The Accident (IT Girl) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:57:43 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Ford Engine Conversion From: "flyingbrick" I just bought a Model A engine for my project. The engine is in good working order and clean as a whistle. So now I am starting to analyze what needs to be done. I guess I am wondering what deviations from the plans are common. For example, what mag is commonly used? And are we still using shoe leather for the coupling? Or is there a trick set up? I am sure I want to do some improvements (i.e. Ron Kelly) to improve HP. Insert bearings and so forth. Heads . . . Modified for aircraft plugs? Which ones? Aircraft carb? Any pointers or suggestions would be great. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=379148#379148 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:33:29 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Kevin Purtee Update From: "scudrun" I don't really know anyone here yet but I read the news and just want to say I'm sorry to hear about the accident but also glad it sounds like Kevin is doing alright. I hope he and the airplane are back flying again soon. Best regards Joe Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=379150#379150 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:53:12 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: motorcycle wheels - bronze bearings From: "scudrun" I took the cub style wheels off my Piet on the weekend and had a look at the axles. They are 1-1/2" diameter and 5-3/4" from the end to the outside face of the brake shoe mounting plate. If I remove the plate I gain 1/16" at the axle, but the shoes extend out about 3/4" so if I want to use these brakes I have only about 4" length to use between the plates that get drilled for the spokes. From what I gather that is not enough. I would really like to be able to make hubs that fit the existing axles without modifying them. What I have been thinking about is getting rid of the hydraulic brakes and fitting the mechanical band brakes that I saw discussed on this forum. I'm thinking that I could design a hub which has a larger diameter flange at the inside end which could act as both a place to attach the spokes and also the brake drum protruding in the direction of the landing gear struts and weld a bracket to the strut to hold the brake band. This would require that all the spokes be inserted from the hub end toward the center rather than alternating over/under as I typically see with spoked wheels. If I take this approach the hub end of the spokes can be basically 5-3/4" apart. Is this enough? Can anybody here see a problem with this idea? Any comments about the band brakes too would be appreciated, are they strong enough to allow a decent run up, do they tend to grab when used? Thanks for any insight anyone can offer. Joe Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=379151#379151 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:00:22 AM PST US From: Isablcorky@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Kevin Purtee Update In a message dated 7/25/2012 8:33:45 A.M. Central Daylight Time, jstreet@uwaterloo.ca writes: --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "scudrun" I don't really know anyone here yet but I read the news and just want to say I'm sorry to hear about the accident but also glad it sounds like Kevin is doing alright. I hope he and the airplane are back flying again soon. Best regards Joe Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=379150#379150 Have been off the net for sometime. Would someone be so kind as to give me the particulars of Kevin Purtee's plight. Corky ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:09:14 AM PST US From: Michael Perez Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: motorcycle wheels - bronze bearings Hello Joe. You say you took the Cub style wheels off...do you have the Cub style landing gear or the straight, Jenny style? Attached are two pictures showing you how I fabricated my hubs to use band brakes. What you see is what you had described doing...large enough inside flange to accommodate spokes and drum.- The second picture shows the flan ged bronze bushings and 4" brake drum in place. Note that the existing larg e center hole in the brake drum fits nicely around the flange bushing.- T he entire assembly is a nice little package.- As you can see, I have my s pokes "over/under" on the hubs. Make the flange large enough so the spokes will fit well outside the brake drum.- (Not clear why you feel the spokes all need to be fitted one way only.)- I had asked about the type of landing gear used because you comment about w elding the bracket for the band itself on to the "strut". I can't picture w hat you mean here.- My band bracket is welded to the axle...which I under stand you have a limited amount of room on. The going agreement about hub width for brakes on a straight axle/Jenny lan ding geared Pietenpol is 6".- My plane is not flying so I can't comment on the holding power. My brakes a re solely designed to prevent the plane from rolling into other planes, fue l pumps, people, etc. between engine shut down and chocks.- If they hold well enough to do a mag. check, that will be a bonus! One thing to consider is wheel diameter. With small 6"-8" wheels/tires, the brakes may hold quite well. With the large wheels, (mine are 21")- there is a lot more mechanical advantage the brakes need to overcome. Michael Perez =0APietenpol HINT Videos =0AKaretaker Aero =0Awww.karetakeraero.com ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:31:57 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: prop clearence From: Gene Rambo 76" prop. Model A, 21" wheels, 12" prop clearance. Gene On Jul 24, 2012, at 9:44 PM, "BYD" wrote: > > Model A and 76" prop 19" wheels.....8.5 inches > > -------- > Please check with Larry "TC" Williams before archiving, otherwise, > DO NOT ARCHIVE > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=379128#379128 > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:45:03 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Kevin Purtee Update From: "IT Girl" http://www.nbc15.com/home/headlines/Plane-Crash-at-Brodhead-Airport-163370326.html#.UA_LlHEewWo.facebook [quote="Isablcorky(at)aol.com"]In a message dated 7/25/2012 8:33:45 A.M. Central Daylight Time, jstreet@uwaterloo.ca writes: > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "scudrun" > > I don't really know anyone here yet but I read the news and just want to say I'm sorry to hear about the accident but also glad it sounds like Kevin is doing alright. I hope he and the airplane are back flying again soon. > > Best regards > Joe > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=379150#379150 > > > Have been off the net for sometime. Would someone be so kind as to give me the particulars of Kevin Purtee's plight. Corky > [b] -------- Shelley Tumino IT Girl wife of "Axel" NX899KP DO NOT ARCHIVE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=379157#379157 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 08:50:06 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: motorcycle wheels - bronze bearings From: "scudrun" Hi Michael This is pretty much what I had in mind except I had envisioned making the inner flange only large enough to encompass the bolt circle for the brake drum and drilling the spoke hole circle within this so that the spoke heads are countersunk under the brake drum. Your way of mounting the spokes on a larger diameter circle allows the inner/outer lacing. Maybe I'll do that too. I can't find any information on what size hole for what gauge spoke but I gather most people are using 8 or 9 gauge. I'm not sure what you mean by cub vs jenny style axles. Here is a couple of photos of the plane if that helps. Joe Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=379159#379159 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/imgp0773_168.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/imgp0811_979.jpg ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 09:21:34 AM PST US From: Michael Perez Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: motorcycle wheels - bronze bearings Pictures are great. I just did not want to assume what type of gear you had , I see clearly now what you have and what you want to do. I don't know if there is any harm lacing spokes all from one side of the hu b. I have seen it done before, but I BELIEVE only on non-brake wheels. I kn ow you need the cross lacing for brakes, just not clear on the over-under. - I had one wheel loose-laced and it was returned to me with the over/und er so I copied that on the other wheel assembly. You will need some clearance between the brake drum and hub for the band it self. The band is wider than the drum. I had to use two washers under my dr um at each bolt location to provide room between the band and the spokes. - The drum fit fine with no washers...just mounted directly on the hub, b ut when I had the band positioned over the drum, the band rubbed the spokes .- I did not want to move the band itself away from the spokes because th en it would not grab the entire width of the drum.-- If you lace all your spokes from the inside, you may not have a rubbing iss ue. But, again, I am not sure if lacing that way is good or bad. There are a lot of "weird" loads on spoked wheels...more so with an airplan e because of side loading...crabbed landings as an example.- Brake loads add to the equation.- If you research the DOs and DON'Ts on lacing spokes the way you mention, please advise us...I would like to know what you find .. You have the Cub style gear. Other Pietenpols use the straight axle...the a xle is a long straight piece of pipe braced with wood struts. This is a typ ical Jenny type style. Michael Perez =0APietenpol HINT Videos =0AKaretaker Aero =0Awww.karetakeraero.com ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 09:24:44 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Ford Engine Conversion From: "DO NOT ARCHIVE" I typed up a response but then went back and realized that it was almost 750 words. I don't want to clog anyone's inbox, so if you're interested please email me directly. -------- Brett Phillips PLEASE DO NOT ARCHIVE! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=379160#379160 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 09:40:22 AM PST US From: Subject: Pietenpol-List: 4100 series magnetos This is a bit off topic since a lot of you use the Model A or Corvair engine but with all the accumulated knowledge here I thought I would ask. Does anyone know how to time the older slick 4100 series magnetos? I need to take them off a O-200 and remove the accessory cover then replace them and have to make sure the timing is right but all I can find on the internet boils down to "replace them after 800 hours" The engine only has a few hundred hours on it and they work fine plus I really can't afford to drop a couple grand on new magnetos. Rodney Hall Do Not Archive ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 10:03:01 AM PST US From: Jim Markle Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Ford Engine Conversion Maybe a good, in depth Model A response should NOT have that "do not archive" wording included.... :-) I, and I'm probably not alone, would love to see what you have Brett. If you would rather not have it on the Matronics list, please cc me when you send it. thanks! -----Original Message----- >From: DO NOT ARCHIVE >Sent: Jul 25, 2012 11:24 AM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Ford Engine Conversion > > >I typed up a response but then went back and realized that it was almost 750 words. I don't want to clog anyone's inbox, so if you're interested please email me directly. > >-------- >Brett Phillips >PLEASE DO NOT ARCHIVE! > > >Read this topic online here: > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=379160#379160 > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 02:39:58 PM PST US From: V Groah Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: motorcycle wheels - bronze bearings engine Q, too. Nice to hear from you again. We are so close yet seldom communicate. It i s nice that you are still able to work on the plane some in-between making a living and visiting family so far away. You are welcome to come to visit. Our plane is at the Porterville airport. We would be happy to share information. Keep up the good work. Vic do not archive From: flightwood@yahoo.com Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: motorcycle wheels - bronze bearings engine Q =2C too. hello vi =2Cjorge for hanford congrat about your piet and all tose tales yo u sending us =2C bery helpfull for novice like my=2C in these pas mont I co ming bac fro mazatlan spend time whit my 4 year baby gilr and wife=2C when i bac to fresno wesnelson my american fhader get for my a new aereo v engin e vw convertion =2Call complete include alot instrumet new bold tail weel =2C master cilinder for brake selenoide and alot thinks =2C big wonder full surprice=2C these parts coming fron kit unfinished dragon fly all new part s never used =2C i don now homany horse power i haved but dragon fly is aro un 80-90horse power needed and 1835-2300. i think is ok for piet but I don have idea how put in my plane =2C in these moment =2C cuting wooden strips from sticka spruce 86 strips for my ribs i used 1932 side ribs=2C probaly f or the side used okumy ply=2C I glon to now your almos fly your wonderfull museum piet plane=2C i hope cand see these plane later tanks for all your p ost vi=2Cjorge from hanford --- On Mon=2C 7/23/12=2C V Groah wrote: From: V Groah Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: motorcycle wheels - bronze bearings 1 1/2 should be plenty. The plane is not that heavy. Ours are about that and seem fine. Vic NX414MV do not archive Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: motorcycle wheels - bronze bearings From: lmforge@earthlink.net Tom=2C Get them from Mcmaster Carr Rick Schreiber NX478RS Valparaiso=2C In Sent from my iPad On Jul 23=2C 2012=2C at 8:36 PM=2C TOM MICHELLE BRANT wro te: those that have used motorcycle wheels with Bronze bearings=2C - where did you get your material for the bearings. I'm assuming you used sleeved (fla nged) bearing but I can only find stuff that's 1 1/2" long. Was thinking i t should be the entire hub length. 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The reason is that with brakes the spokes have to be cross laced to take the torsional load. Lacing in alternating inside/outside pattern allows clearance for the spokes to criss cross without interference. All one side spokes would interfere. If there are no brakes the spokes can go radially from the hub to rim and don't have to criss cross so they can be laced all from one side. I was looking at SS tube/pipe sizes and I think I will go with a sched 80 1-1/2 in. pipe which is 1.900 in. OD and 0.200 in. wall which will allow for machining the inside to 1.750 in. for the bushings and leave 0.075 in. wall thickness. Looks like you went with stainless as well. Nice job! I hope I end up with something as nice as those. Joe Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=379178#379178 ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 03:10:54 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Kevin Purtee Update part Deaux From: "IT Girl" Your prayers are working! We have had several visitors today, thanks Michael Cuy, Rob Busch, Matt Paxton, Lynn Paxton, John Hofmann, and Ryan Mueller. We are expecting a couple more visitors this evening. They want to move him out of ICU today... can you believe it? Soon he will be on his feet. My God is an AWESOME GOD. -------- Shelley Tumino IT Girl wife of "Axel" NX899KP DO NOT ARCHIVE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=379179#379179 ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 03:14:53 PM PST US From: brian.e.jardine@l-3com.com Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Kevin Purtee Update part Deaux Congrats to you both......Happy to hear Kevin is doing so well. Brian SLC-UT Do Not Archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of IT Girl Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 4:11 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Kevin Purtee Update part Deaux Your prayers are working! We have had several visitors today, thanks Michael Cuy, Rob Busch, Matt Paxton, Lynn Paxton, John Hofmann, and Ryan Mueller. We are expecting a couple more visitors this evening. They want to move him out of ICU today... can you believe it? Soon he will be on his feet. My God is an AWESOME GOD. -------- Shelley Tumino IT Girl wife of "Axel" NX899KP DO NOT ARCHIVE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=379179#379179 ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 04:06:01 PM PST US From: Max Hegler Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Kevin Purtee Update part Deaux Shelley=2C So glad to hear the great news! Obviously=2C you can't keep a good man down ! Dianne and I will continue to keep you in our prayers and hope for a full and speedy recovery. As always=2C if there is anything we or the Piet comm unity can do to help you get back home and settled in=2C let us know... som e of us old retired farts are always looking for something to do in between the covering=2C stitching and painting! Take Care=2CMax and Dianne > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Kevin Purtee Update part Deaux > From: shlizbth@gmail.com > Date: Wed=2C 25 Jul 2012 15:10:34 -0700 > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > > > Your prayers are working! We have had several visitors today=2C thanks M ichael Cuy=2C Rob Busch=2C Matt Paxton=2C Lynn Paxton=2C John Hofmann=2C an d Ryan Mueller. We are expecting a couple more visitors this evening. The y want to move him out of ICU today... can you believe it? Soon he will be on his feet. My God is an AWESOME GOD. > > -------- > Shelley Tumino > IT Girl > wife of "=3BAxel"=3B > NX899KP > > DO NOT ARCHIVE > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=379179#379179 > > > > > > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > > ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 04:51:08 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Kevin Purtee Update part Deaux From: "Don Emch" Awesome news Shelley! God is an AWESOME God! Don Emch NX899DE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=379184#379184 ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 04:55:01 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Kevin Purtee Update part Deaux From: Robert Bush Hi Shelly, that's great news please give Kevin my best. Randy Bush Do not archive Sent from my iPhone On Jul 25, 2012, at 5:10 PM, "IT Girl" wrote: > > Your prayers are working! We have had several visitors today, thanks Michael Cuy, Rob Busch, Matt Paxton, Lynn Paxton, John Hofmann, and Ryan Mueller. We are expecting a couple more visitors this evening. They want to move him out of ICU today... can you believe it? Soon he will be on his feet. My God is an AWESOME GOD. > > -------- > Shelley Tumino > IT Girl > wife of "Axel" > NX899KP > > DO NOT ARCHIVE > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=379179#379179 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 05:17:36 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Kevin Purtee Update part Deaux From: "proplock" Good news, sent prayers, blessings to both of you. Glad to see the Piet community is alive and well, great group. Kevin: keep'em moving !!!! -------- A remarkable lad , capable of many things Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=379186#379186 ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 05:23:48 PM PST US From: johnwoods@westnet.com.au Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Kevin Purtee Update Shelley, I'm so sorry to hear of Kevin's accident and hope=C2-he is recovering wel l and that you have your family close with you. Though I am in Australia and have not met Kevin, yourself or any of the Pie tenpol forum members, my thoughts are with you and=C2-your family and I =C2-pray for=C2-Kevin's full recovery. Best regards, John Woods Perth, Western Australia ----- "IT Girl" wrote: http://www.nbc15.com/home/headlines/Plane-Crash-at-Brodhead-Airport-1633703 26.html#.UA_LlHEewWo.facebook [quote="Isablcorky(at)aol.com"]In a message dated 7/25/2012 8:33:45 A.M. Central Daylight Time, =C2-jstreet@uwaterloo.ca writes: =C2- > --> =C2- =C2-Pietenpol-List message posted by: "scudrun" =C2- =C2 - > > I don't really know anyone here yet but I =C2- =C2-read the news and just want to say I'm sorry to hear about the accident but =C2- =C2-also glad it sounds like Kevin is doing alright. =C2-I hope he and the =C2- =C2-airplane are back flying again soon. > > Best =C2- =C2-regards > Joe > > > > > Read this topic online =C2- =C2-here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=379150#379150 > > > =C2- =C2-Have been off the net for sometime. Would someone be so kind as to gi ve me =C2-the particulars of Kevin Purtee's plight. Corky =C2- > [b] -------- Shelley Tumino IT Girl wife of "Axel" NX899KP DO NOT ARCHIVE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=379157#379157 =========== =========== MS - =========== e - =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2--Matt Dralle, List Admin. =========== ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 05:27:37 PM PST US From: "C N Campbell" Subject: Pietenpol-List: The Accident Now that things have kind of settled down a bit, could someone let the list members know what happened. All I ever saw was that there was an accident. What was it? Automobile? airplane? What happened? How did it happen? Chuck ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 05:31:04 PM PST US From: shad bell Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Kevin Purtee Update part Deaux Praise The Lord!- We'll continue to keep praying for you both.- Keep hi s spirits up, and tell him "Cool Gary", and Shad are pulling for him.- If there is anything we can help with let us know. - Sincerely, Shad - Do not archive ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 06:06:28 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Kevin Purtee Update part Deaux From: Andrew Eldredge Shelly What a great thing to hear of Kevin's progress. I'll be looking forward to hearing from him. Thank you for keeping us updated. My heart is warmed by the outpouring of faith and well wishes I see aimed your way. We have cause for gratitude. Andrew Eldredge Provo, UT On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 6:30 PM, shad bell wrote: > Praise The Lord! We'll continue to keep praying for you both. Keep his > spirits up, and tell him "Cool Gary", and Shad are pulling for him. If > there is anything we can help with let us know. > > Sincerely, > Shad > > Do not archive > > * > > * > > ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 06:15:41 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: The Accident From: Andrew Eldredge What has been said is that there was an accident as Kevin was departing Brodhead Texas bound. Although many of us are curious, I think it would be a good idea to respect the requests to keep speculation and discussion and particulars of the accident offline; Indefinitely perhaps, but certainly until the officials have done their work. The eyewitnesses have been very circumspect in this regard. I intend to suspend my curiosity until an appropriate time. Andrew Eldredge Provo, UT On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 6:27 PM, C N Campbell wrote: > ** > Now that things have kind of settled down a bit, could someone let the > list members know what happened. All I ever saw was that there was an > accident. What was it? Automobile? airplane? What happened? How did it > happen? Chuck > > * > > * > > ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 06:35:43 PM PST US From: wd6bor Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Kevin Purtee Update part Deaux Shelly, I'm delighted to hear that Kevin is moving out of ICU and on the mend. I had planned to make Brodhead this year but work didn't allow that. I'm sorry I missed the good times and wonderful company at the Pietenpol gathering. Let us know when it would be appropriate to tell Kevin to "head for the pond, Axel!" Blessings and best wishes to both of you. Darrel Jones Sonoma, CA On 7/25/2012 3:10 PM, IT Girl wrote: > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "IT Girl" > > Your prayers are working! We have had several visitors today, thanks Michael Cuy, Rob Busch, Matt Paxton, Lynn Paxton, John Hofmann, and Ryan Mueller. We are expecting a couple more visitors this evening. They want to move him out of ICU today... can you believe it? Soon he will be on his feet. My God is an AWESOME GOD. > > -------- > Shelley Tumino > IT Girl > wife of"Axel" > NX899KP > > DO NOT ARCHIVE > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=379179#379179 > > ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 07:33:12 PM PST US From: Jim Boyer Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Kevin Purtee Update part Deaux Fantastic Shelley, so glad Kevin is doing so well. We will continue to keep you and Kevin in our prayers; and yes our God is an awesome God. Jim and Arlene ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 07:52:36 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Hacked Email Address From: "Pieti Lowell" Please do not send the thousands of dollars that my Email address is asking to send, I'm not in Spain, I did not lose my wallet nor phone. The crafty hacker accessed my Email address and changed the password which made it very difficult thing to stop the vulture from sending to my contacts . My new address will be forth-coming.or sent to those that want to contact me, When asks to correct or verify your Address DO NOT respond, delete, Pieti Lowell Don't archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=379195#379195 ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 08:07:41 PM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Hacked Email Address Too bad! The check was going out tomorrow... Gary Boothe NX308MB Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Pieti Lowell Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 7:52 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Hacked Email Address --> Please do not send the thousands of dollars that my Email address is asking to send, I'm not in Spain, I did not lose my wallet nor phone. The crafty hacker accessed my Email address and changed the password which made it very difficult thing to stop the vulture from sending to my contacts . My new address will be forth-coming.or sent to those that want to contact me, When asks to correct or verify your Address DO NOT respond, delete, Pieti Lowell Don't archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=379195#379195 ________________________________ Message 30 ____________________________________ Time: 10:00:04 PM PST US From: jorge lizarraga Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: motorcycle wheels - bronze bearings engine Q, too.exelent tanks vi from now my hard season just stared sooner slow dow we contact i l ike to look your piet , take note to my proyect , whit all those parts im m ore closed to look like airplane tanks jorge from hanford --- On Wed, 7/25/12, V Groah wrote: From: V Groah Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: motorcycle wheels - bronze bearings engine Q, too. Nice to hear from you again.- We are so close yet seldom communicate.- -It-is nice-that you are still able to work on the plane some in-betw een making a living and visiting family-so far away.- - You are welcome to come to visit.- Our plane is at the Porterville airpor t.- We would be happy to share information.- Keep up the good work.- Vic - do not archive - From: flightwood@yahoo.com Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: motorcycle wheels - bronze bearings engine Q, too. hello vi ,jorge for hanford congrat about your piet and all tose tales you sending us , bery helpfull for novice like my, in these pas mont I coming b ac fro mazatlan spend time whit my 4 year baby gilr and wife, when i bac to fresno wesnelson my american fhader get for my a new aereo v engine vw con vertion ,all complete include alot instrumet new bold tail weel, master cil inder for brake selenoide and alot thinks , big wonder full surprice, these parts coming fron kit unfinished dragon fly all new parts never used , i d on now homany horse power i haved but dragon fly is aroun 80-90horse power needed and 1835-2300. i think is ok for piet but I don have idea how put in my plane , in these moment , cuting wooden strips from sticka spruce 86 st rips for my ribs i used 1932 side ribs, probaly for the side used okumy ply , I glon to now your almos fly your wonderfull museum piet plane, i hope ca nd see these plane later tanks for all your post vi,jorge from hanford --- On Mon, 7/23/12, V Groah wrote: From: V Groah Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: motorcycle wheels - bronze bearings 1 1/2 should be plenty.- The plane is not that heavy.- Ours are about t hat and seem fine. - Vic NX414MV - do not archive - Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: motorcycle wheels - bronze bearings From: lmforge@earthlink.net Tom, Get them from Mcmaster Carr Rick Schreiber NX478RS Valparaiso, In Sent from my iPad On Jul 23, 2012, at 8:36 PM, TOM MICHELLE BRANT wrote: those that have used motorcycle wheels with Bronze bearings, - where did yo u get your material for the bearings.- I'm assuming you used sleeved (fla nged) bearing but I can only find stuff that's 1 1/2" long.- Was thinking it should be the entire hub length. 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I appreciate you curiosity, and your respect. As Kevin strengthens, we will put out the information that you are looking for, mean while, this article covers the basics, except to say he was taking off when the incident occurred, not landing. http://www.wkow.com/story/19086263/pilot-injured-in-crash-near-brodhead -------- Shelley Tumino IT Girl wife of "Axel" NX899KP DO NOT ARCHIVE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=379201#379201 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.