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1. 03:43 AM - VRAP (John Francis)
2. 04:04 AM - Re: Hello Good People (John Franklin)
3. 04:42 AM - Re: Re: Brodhead report (helspersew@aol.com)
4. 04:43 AM - Re: Re: Brodhead report (Pietn38b@aol.com)
5. 05:01 AM - Re: Hello Good People (Jim Boyer)
6. 05:25 AM - Re: Hello Good People (Billy McCaskill)
7. 05:35 AM - Re: VRAP (Kip and Beth Gardner)
8. 06:17 AM - Kevin Purtee Update 7/29/2012 (IT Girl)
9. 06:20 AM - Re: "Homebuilts" (Michael Perez)
10. 06:36 AM - Re: Kevin Purtee Update 7/29/2012 (Michael Perez)
11. 06:45 AM - A-65 Valve Covers (Michael Perez)
12. 07:07 AM - Re: Hello Good People (echobravo4)
13. 07:15 AM - Re: Hello Good People (caldwrl)
14. 07:19 AM - Re: Kevin Purtee Update 7/29/2012 (Faith Maltese Kuri)
15. 08:54 AM - Re: Hello Good People (coxwelljon)
16. 08:58 AM - Re: Re: Brodhead report (Jeff Wilson)
17. 09:40 AM - Re: Brodhead (coxwelljon)
18. 12:41 PM - Re: Kevin Purtee Update 7/29/2012 (Jim Boyer)
19. 12:47 PM - A fellow builder has deployed to Afghanistan (Gary Boothe)
20. 01:01 PM - Re: Re: Brodhead (Jack@textors.com)
21. 03:13 PM - Re: Kevin Purtee Update 7/29/2012 (Greg Cardinal)
22. 03:39 PM - Re: prop clearence (dgaldrich)
23. 03:51 PM - Tail wires and Turnbuckle (FandS_Piet)
24. 04:06 PM - fuel measuring stick (Douwe Blumberg)
25. 04:38 PM - Re: Tail wires and Turnbuckle (Greg Cardinal)
26. 04:47 PM - Re: Tail wires and Turnbuckle (Larry V)
27. 05:23 PM - Re: I've bought a Piet! (K5YAC)
28. 06:49 PM - Re: fuel measuring stick (Jerry Dotson)
29. 07:26 PM - Re: fuel measuring stick (ken anderson)
30. 07:33 PM - Re: Tail wires and Turnbuckle (skipgadd@earthlink.net)
31. 09:10 PM - Re: Tail wires and Turnbuckle (Bill Church)
32. 09:56 PM - Re: Hello Good People (shad bell)
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If you qualify, this is an opportunity to learn some additional skills that could
apply to building a Pietenpol. The list of High Demand Jobs is pretty extensive.
Just Google VRAP if you want more information.
Congress passed, and the President has signed into law, the VOW to Hire Heroes
Act of 2011. Included in this new law is the Veterans Retraining Assistance Program
(VRAP). VRAP offers up to 12 months of training assistance to unemployed
Veterans.
The VRAP offers 12 months of training assistance to Veterans who:
Are at least 35 but no more than 60 years old
Are unemployed on the date of application
Received an other than dishonorable discharge
Are not be eligible for any other VA education benefit program (e.g.: the Post-9/11
GI Bill, Montgomery GI Bill, Vocational Rehabilitation and Employment Assistance)
Are not in receipt of VA compensation due to unemployability
Are not enrolled in a federal or state job training program
The program is limited to 45,000 participants from July 1, 2012, through September
30, 2012, and 54,000 participants from October 1, 2012, through March 31,
2014. Participants may receive up to 12 months of assistance equal to the monthly
full-time payment rate under the Montgomery GI BillActive Duty program (currently
$1,473 per month). DOL will offer employment assistance to every Veteran
who participates upon completion of the program.
Participants must be enrolled in a VA approved program of education offered by
a community college or technical school. The program must lead to an Associate
Degree, Non-College Degree, or a Certificate, and train the Veteran for a high
demand occupation.
http://benefits.va.gov/vow/docs/VRAP_High_Demand.pdf
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| Subject: | Re: Hello Good People |
Hi Kevin,
Great to see you're back "online"! Behave yourself around those nurses & therapists!
John Franklin
Prairie Aire 4TA0
Needville, TX
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>Subject: Pietenpol-List: Hello Good People
>
>
>Will share more with you in the next day or 2. Today's first day I've had the
energy to open the computer. My glasses hurt my broken nose.
>
>1st: Thanks so much for all the support after the crash. Will address more of
this later.
>
>2nd: will add to Dan's report based on our time this year prior to the crash.
>
>3rd: thanks for the offer of financial and other support. Very generous but please
only give WHAT you can, IF you can, and if you WANT TO. You owe us nothing
but your friendship, which you are already generous with.
>
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>Kevin "Axel" Purtee
>NX899KP
>Austin/San Marcos, TX
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| Subject: | Re: Brodhead report |
Hi Jon,
It was a true pleasure giving all those rides at Brodhead this year. All o
f us guys that have finished and are able to share feel the same way. Seein
g those smiling faces on all the kids in previous Brodhead years was (and i
s for everybody) an incentive to keep going. Good luck to your Grandson.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
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-----Original Message-----
From: coxwelljon <coxwelljon@frontiernet.net>
Sent: Sat, Jul 28, 2012 10:24 pm
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Brodhead report
net>
Dan,
My grandson was one of your last rides on Friday evening and the smiles on
his
face told the whole story. You really touched the heart of this young man.
I
thank you so much for your generosity.
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Jon Coxwell
GN-1 Builder
Recycle and preserve the planet
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| Subject: | Re: Brodhead report |
Worked great. Nice bunch of pics. Thanks!!
Jim Ballew
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In a message dated 7/28/2012 10:58:34 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
hangar10@cox.net writes:
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.2323577585783.65524.1739931453&type
=3&l=86199cc2ac
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| Subject: | Re: Hello Good People |
Hi Kevin,
Boy good to see you are up and bout. It may be more than your glasses hurti
ng your nose but so nice to know you will be well and=C2-continuing in th
e Piet group. We do love you two.
Jim=C2-and Arlene
=C2-=C2-
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| Subject: | Re: Hello Good People |
You had the masses disconcerted, Axel! But it's great that you are still with
us and on the mend. We look forward to more updates from you as you are able.
Concentrate on your recovery and don't push yourself too hard too fast.
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Billy McCaskill
Baker, LA
tail section almost done, starting on ribs soon
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I don't know if this would apply, or if there are any eligible folks
out there with ties to NE Ohio, but the community college where I
teach ( Stark State College of Technology) has several programs that
would definitely qualify - advanced energy systems technologies (we
have a joint fuel cells research program with Rolls Royce on campus)
and an accelerated certificate in welding (spurred by the needs of the
local oil boom) are two that come to mind. There are others, like an
environmental healthy & safety program and a first responders program
(fire fighting & EMS) that also come to mind.
Kip Gardner
North Canton, OH
On Jul 29, 2012, at 6:42 AM, John Francis wrote:
> >
>
> If you qualify, this is an opportunity to learn some additional
> skills that could apply to building a Pietenpol. The list of High
> Demand Jobs is pretty extensive. Just Google VRAP if you want more
> information.
>
> Congress passed, and the President has signed into law, the VOW to
> Hire Heroes Act of 2011. Included in this new law is the Veterans
> Retraining Assistance Program (VRAP). VRAP offers up to 12 months of
> training assistance to unemployed Veterans.
>
> The VRAP offers 12 months of training assistance to Veterans who:
>
> Are at least 35 but no more than 60 years old
> Are unemployed on the date of application
> Received an other than dishonorable discharge
> Are not be eligible for any other VA education benefit program
> (e.g.: the Post-9/11 GI Bill, Montgomery GI Bill, Vocational
> Rehabilitation and Employment Assistance)
> Are not in receipt of VA compensation due to unemployability
> Are not enrolled in a federal or state job training program
> The program is limited to 45,000 participants from July 1, 2012,
> through September 30, 2012, and 54,000 participants from October 1,
> 2012, through March 31, 2014. Participants may receive up to 12
> months of assistance equal to the monthly full-time payment rate
> under the Montgomery GI BillActive Duty program (currently $1,473
> per month). DOL will offer employment assistance to every Veteran
> who participates upon completion of the program.
>
> Participants must be enrolled in a VA approved program of education
> offered by a community college or technical school. The program must
> lead to an Associate Degree, Non-College Degree, or a Certificate,
> and train the Veteran for a high demand occupation.
>
> http://benefits.va.gov/vow/docs/VRAP_High_Demand.pdf
>
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> John Francis
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=379466#379466
>
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| Subject: | Kevin Purtee Update 7/29/2012 |
As most of you have already seen Kevin is to the point in his recovery that he
actually asked for his computer. Here is what you haven't seen from the last
36+ hours since my last update:
Kevins bowel functions have returned to normal - kind of - he is farting frequently
He is able to stand, bear height on both legs, and shuffle around with a walker.
In my last update on 7/27 he was barely able to tolerate standing for more
than a minute or so. So when I tell you that he shuffled into the bathroom, showered,
and later in the day shuffled back in to stand and shave, it is nothing
short of amazing in my estimation.
All IV fluids have been discontinued, and he is tolerating pain and managing it
with oral medications.
We are still working on getting him well enough to travel home, so we anticipate
being here several more days.
Thank you so much for your kind thoughts and prayers.
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Shelley Tumino
IT Girl
wife of "Axel"
NX899KP
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| Subject: | Re: "Homebuilts" |
Could not agree more!
Michael Perez
Pietenpol HINT Videos
Karetaker Aero
www.karetakeraero.com
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| Subject: | Re: Kevin Purtee Update 7/29/2012 |
That is good news Shelley and really great progress!
-
As opposed to posting on the other threads offering parts,-in fear of my
post being lost in all the shuffle, I wanted to contact you and Kevin in a
little more direct matter, so I'll use this thread.
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I do not believe I have any pieces or parts I can donate at this time. (I a
m convinced I'll part with something than realize I'll need it for my own b
uild.)- However, I will offer my services...anything you may need fabrica
ted, machined, welded, cut, etc, let me know.- Especially if you you need
something custom made or...modified!- (Come awn now!)
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Feel free to contact me directly. If I can "make" it happen, It's yours.
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| Subject: | A-65 Valve Covers |
Crew, I have a set of A-65 valve covers that have the flat flange that the
bolts go through. I understand that there are also valve covers that have a
n added lip or flange on that flat that helps keep the gasket from sliding
around under it.- If anyone has-these covers and wants to sell them,-
or knows where I might find-some, I would appreciate the help.
-
Michael Perez
Pietenpol HINT Videos
Karetaker Aero
www.karetakeraero.com
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| Subject: | Re: Hello Good People |
Great news!
Glad you are up and about and recovering
Well!
Keep up the good work!
Earl
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Earl Brown
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I
intended to be.
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| Subject: | Re: Hello Good People |
It's great to hear from you Kevin. I wish you continued progress and look forward
to your complete recovery. Not a day goes by that I don't think of you and
so appreciate the hints you share and the opportunity to have used FBG in my
build. I think back to CC22 and the way you opened her up and let me take lots
of pix.
Well, my Piet is not wired and plumbed and almost ready to fire up the Corvair
on the fuselage, thanks to you. I am attaching a memory for you... yep it was
a cold day in Texas and you were departing from Gilmer (JXI) and heading south
(Jan. 2010). Your first long xcountry, as I recall, if preparation for Brodhead
the following summer.
Needless to say, not hot here now, so I'll keep it warm until you return...soon,
I hope.
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Robert Caldwell
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| Subject: | Re: Kevin Purtee Update 7/29/2012 |
Shelly:
I've been holding my breath waiting for this kind of news on Kevin. Looks
like all of our prayers are being answered. My thoughts and good energy are
with you both and I look forward to news of the two of you returning home.
Warmest regards,
Faith Maltese
(John Recine's Cousin)
-----Original Message-----
From: IT Girl <shlizbth@gmail.com>
Sent: Sun, Jul 29, 2012 9:18 am
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Kevin Purtee Update 7/29/2012
As most of you have already seen Kevin is to the point in his recovery that
he
ctually asked for his computer. Here is what you haven't seen from the las
t
6+ hours since my last update:
Kevins bowel functions have returned to normal - kind of - he is farting
requently
e is able to stand, bear height on both legs, and shuffle around with a wal
ker.
n my last update on 7/27 he was barely able to tolerate standing for more t
han
minute or so. So when I tell you that he shuffled into the bathroom, showe
red,
nd later in the day shuffled back in to stand and shave, it is nothing shor
t of
mazing in my estimation.
All IV fluids have been discontinued, and he is tolerating pain and managin
g it
ith oral medications.
We are still working on getting him well enough to travel home, so we antic
ipate
eing here several more days.
Thank you so much for your kind thoughts and prayers.
--------
helley Tumino
T Girl
ife of "Axel"
X899KP
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| Subject: | Re: Hello Good People |
Kevin,
I just returned home from an extended trip which included Brodhead. It was a pleasure
to meet you there for the first time and to see your airplane. It was
also a shock to see on the list that you had had an accident.
I am so glad that you are doing well and on the mend. Hang in there and keep a
positive attitude as I know you will. I continue to send you positive thoughts
and fully hope to meet you again at another Brodhead get together.
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Jon Coxwell
GN-1 Builder
Recycle and preserve the planet
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| Subject: | Re: Brodhead report |
The link works great and gives us, who were unable to attend, a great feel f
or what is was like to be there.
Thank you for sharing with us all.
Prayers for Kevin and Shelly!
Jeff Wilson
Fuse and 3 pc. wings done.
A65. 19 in. Wire wheels.
Progress stalled while I work on new (to me) hangar at H49. And coming rehab
from new knee joint installation on Aug. 6th.
Flying C-152 with windows open and using imagination. (that's not a yoke, it
's a stick)
A mile of road will take you a mile, but a mile
of runway will take you anywhere
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 28, 2012, at 10:57 PM, "K5YAC" <hangar10@cox.net> wrote:
>
> I'm not sure how this works if you aren't a Facebook user, but it says tha
t I can share my album with others. I hope those of you who are not on Fac
ebook are able to view my photos using this link.
>
> Let us know if it works!
>
> http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.2323577585783.65524.1739931453&
type=3&l=86199cc2ac
>
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> Mark Chouinard
> Wings, Center Section and Empannage and Fuse framed up - Working on Landin
g Gear
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Jack,
Just got home a couple of days ago and I am finally back on the computer.
I want to thank you for the kind invitation to the Bratfest. My grandson and I
thoroughly enjoyed ourselves. At 15 Eli is very much into food and it was a
good opportunity for me to teach him some socialization skills. I also enjoyed
putting faces with the names I see on the list. I hope to see you again at
a future Brodhead gathering.
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Jon Coxwell
GN-1 Builder
Recycle and preserve the planet
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| Subject: | Re: Kevin Purtee Update 7/29/2012 |
Hi Shelley,
Glad Kevin is doing so well and is getting able to get around now; that will make
a big difference in how fast he is able to heal and get healthy again. Bill
Cosby always talked about the elephants that were sneaking up on him or tried
to get his kids to pull his finger; gaseous discharges you know!
Jim B.
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| Subject: | A fellow builder has deployed to Afghanistan |
All,
The below message is from fellow builder, Mike Weaver, recently deployed to
Afghanistan. Mike was a 'digest' reader, until his deployment, and claimed
to have limited internet skills. I cry BULLS__T! as Mike is a computer
technician on UAV's! During a recent sortee to his house, with the esteemed
Chris Tracy, Mike confessed that he had volunteered for deployment, as he is
nearing the end of his career. He said that, when wearing his uniform in
town, he would often be confronted by strangers who wished to express their
gratitude. He felt guilty, as, in his words, ".the credit should go to those
in harm's way.." He'll be the first to admit that his particular duty at
Kandahar is somewhat secure, though it appears as though there is still
danger.
Mike was the host of our first official 'West Coast Piet Gathering,' in
'09m, pictured here with his head partially covered by the sign. He does
some of the most beautiful wood work I have seen, saying that there is
nothing he enjoys more than sanding wood! Every single piece is well sanded
and varnished with several coats!
Mike has a beautiful wife and family at home, and I am sure there are at
least a dozen things he would prefer to be doing right now, but instead he
volunteers for deployment! Such are the decisions made by men and women of
character. His personal email is below, if you wish to send him a
greeting.or, I will forward anything posted on the list. He is due back late
in December, and will be pissed off if he sees me flying! I hope he catches
up quickly..
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
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From: Mike Weaver [mailto:flyinghighpiet@yahoo.com]
Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 1:01 AM
normande2929@aol.com; marweaver2003@yahoo.com; Molly Weaver; Jenny Weaver;
Cj5weaver@gmail.com; Susanne Alger; Deanna Snover; Tracy D. Bliss;
embraz@att.net; Gary Boothe; dskogrover@yahoo.com;
Dana.Birlingmair@resortquest.com; Dana
Subject: Hello
Hi Family and Friends,
Below is an email I sent to friends at Beale. It is hard to write to
everybody individually so this what you get, something already sent to
others. Too bad just enjoy that I have written to you. I had fun writing
it. And it was exciting living it. It sounds more dangerous than it is
really, so don't let it scare you. I am safe here, well as safe as a person
can be in a war zone. Just kidding, take it easy, I'm safe.
I have to get back to work.
Love Mike
It has been an amazing experience so far. That is not to say it is easy
being
here. I would much rather be at home, this is much harder than I imagined
it
would be. But I am proud to be doing this, however I look forward to the
end.
It is too far way for me to even think about.
The ducking and diving is part of life here. It does not happen every day.
Our procedures are somewhat similar to the training we receive when we do
our
ATSO exercises at home station. I did not realize this until my first
attack.
I heard the warning tone, but initially I thought what is that. When all
the
folks around me start hitting the deck, I came to realize that, oh we are
under attack. So I followed suit, hit the ground and after 2 minutes went
to
the nearest bunker. The important difference is that the bunkers here are
not
marked with red tape and cones. Fortunately they are a bit more
substantial.
They are actually made of reinforced concrete, so it will protect you during
an actual attack.
Yesterday I experienced my second attack. I would like to give you some
details, but I get some of my info off SIPR, so it is classified. It would
not be good for me to repeat it on NIPR. But I will tell you the part I
think
is the coolest. We were in lock down for almost 3 hours yesterday. I was
out
on the ramp near the PAX terminal. I went there to participate in a
Dignified
Transfer of two soldiers. The cool part for me was that, I spent some of
the
time bunkered down in a building called the TLS. TLS stands for Taliban's
Last Stand. This region is the home of the Taliban. It is considered their
spiritual homeland, that is part of the reason we have so much trouble with
them in the Kandahar area. They would love to get us out of here, but to
bad
for them. Anyway, the TLS is the building that was their refuge and last
fighting position when we took them out. The building sustained battle
damage, but some repairs were made and today it functions as our PAX
terminal.
There I was taking refuge in the TLS while they were shooting rockets at us.
How about that for a story. That is just too cool. I think this is
surreal.
Have a good weekend all. Sleep well at night I am here with my team
defending
your freedom and safety! Am I full of it or what? I maybe over the top
with
this stuff but this is a truly great experience for me that I am glad to be
part of. If you think you would like to take a deployment and experience it
for yourself, I recommend it!
YOU WANT THE TRUTH, YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH! Yes, you're right I am full
of it. I'm sorry, just having a little fun. Maybe the heat is getting to
me.
I miss you all, tell everybody I said hi.
Mike
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Jon it was my pleasure!
Jack Textor
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On Jul 29, 2012, at 11:40 AM, "coxwelljon" <coxwelljon@frontiernet.net> wrote:
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> Jack,
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> Just got home a couple of days ago and I am finally back on the computer.
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> I want to thank you for the kind invitation to the Bratfest. My grandson and
I thoroughly enjoyed ourselves. At 15 Eli is very much into food and it was
a good opportunity for me to teach him some socialization skills. I also enjoyed
putting faces with the names I see on the list. I hope to see you again at
a future Brodhead gathering.
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> Jon Coxwell
> GN-1 Builder
> Recycle and preserve the planet
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| Subject: | Re: Kevin Purtee Update 7/29/2012 |
John Hofman and Chris Bobka visited Kevin earlier today and asked to have an
update posted.
Kevin is feeling well enough to complain about the food so he is scheduled
to be discharged tomorrow.
He will travel via Amtrak and be home within 24 hours.
Shipping arrangements for FBG are in the works and she will arrive at her
hangar soon.
Greg Cardinal
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| Subject: | Re: prop clearence |
Just for reference, FAR Part 23.925 requires a 9 inch prop clearance for conventional
gear aircraft with the aircraft in level flight attitude or takeoff attitude
(whichever is most critical) and at max gross weight. Also says that there
must be a positive clearance with the most critical gear suspension collapsed
(i.e. broken bungees) and a flat tire on the same side.
I know we don't have to conform to Part 23 but, like AC 43-13, it's a darn good
place to find useful information. Like the guidance from Uncle Tony, ignore
it at your peril.
Dave Aldrich
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| Subject: | Tail wires and Turnbuckle |
Hey Guys,
I am wondering if it is best or common practice to use 1x19 wire for the tail
bracing. Thats what I want to use but it only seems to be available in 1/16th
which doesnt give me a warm fuzzy feeling, and 1/8th which I think is too big.
Im also worried about wrapping it around the thimble, if it is possible?
Also turn buckle size. Long or short, or does it not matter? Are there any areas
where the shorter turnbuckles dont allow for enough adjustment?
Thanks
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Fred Kim
Pittsburgh, Pa
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| Subject: | fuel measuring stick |
I want to make up a "fuel measuring stick" to physically confirm fuel
levels. I'd like it to be some material which makes it easy to tell where
the fuel level is, and which I can permanently mark. Wood is great, but it
soaks up the fuel and stinks up any compartment it is stored in. I was
wondering if anyone had any clever ideas for a material which is fuel
resistant, can be marked, will show the fuel level yet won't soak up the
fuel and smell.
??
Douwe
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| Subject: | Re: Tail wires and Turnbuckle |
Hi Fred,
You will have a hard time bending 1X19 cable around a thimble. You can use
swaged fittings and eliminate the thimble and nicopress sleeve. Finding
someone with proper swaging tools can be a problem.
7X19 cable and nicopress fittings are common and acceptable.
The tail bracing cables do their job in turbulent prop wash and they tend to
vibrate. 1/16" cable wouldn't give me a warm fuzzy feeling either.
Greg Cardinal
Minneapolis
----- Original Message -----
From: "FandS_Piet" <fkim79@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 5:50 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Tail wires and Turnbuckle
>
> Hey Guys,
> I am wondering if it is best or common practice to use 1x19 wire for the
> tail bracing. Thats what I want to use but it only seems to be available
> in 1/16th which doesnt give me a warm fuzzy feeling, and 1/8th which I
> think is too big. Im also worried about wrapping it around the thimble,
> if it is possible?
>
> Also turn buckle size. Long or short, or does it not matter? Are there
> any areas where the shorter turnbuckles dont allow for enough adjustment?
>
> Thanks
>
> --------
> Fred Kim
> Pittsburgh, Pa
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=379528#379528
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Tail wires and Turnbuckle |
Hello Fred, I had the same questions awhile back and with some advice from Bill
Church and Mike Cuy, I went with 3/32 wire and the 130-16s turnbuckle assembly
and it worked out perfect. I ordered everything from aircraft spruce
including the wire cutters and swagger. If you want the part #s for the cutter
and swagger email me at larryvangerven@hotmail.com
Take care Larry V
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| Subject: | Re: I've bought a Piet! |
Peter, I've been told that your package has been shipped. I have been out of town,
so I'm not sure when it actually departed, but I suspect that you do not
have it yet. David from Viking Packing tells me that he e-mailed me some photos,
but they went to my work e-mail, which I currently do not have access to.
I'll check for them tomorrow and post whatever I have.
--------
Mark Chouinard
Wings, Center Section and Empannage and Fuse framed up - Working on Landing Gear
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| Subject: | Re: fuel measuring stick |
Douwe I think black acetal rod would work. You might have to sand it to make a
matt finish so the gas would show. A piece of nylon airbrake line might work.
Available at most auto parts stores. It is shiny but would dull up good with
some 400 wet or dry. Cheap and quick to try
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Jerry Dotson
59 Daniel Johnson Rd
Baker, FL 32531
First flight June 16,2012
Started building July, 2009
21" wheels
Lycoming O-235 C2C
Jay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44
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| Subject: | Re: fuel measuring stick |
Years ago when I was involved on a club with a C120 we made one from a
small glass tube. Insert in tank put your finger over the end. To set it up
started with empty tank added fuel 1 gal at a time dipped the tube for a
measurment. When that was done taped off every other segment hit it with a
sandblaster to etch the glass. No fuss muss or bother (or smell)
Ken
On Jul 29, 2012 7:07 PM, "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg@earthlink.net>
wrote:
> I want to make up a =93fuel measuring stick=94 to physically confirm fue
l
> levels. I=92d like it to be some material which makes it easy to tell wh
ere
> the fuel level is, and which I can permanently mark. Wood is great, but
it
> soaks up the fuel and stinks up any compartment it is stored in. I was
> wondering if anyone had any clever ideas for a material which is fuel
> resistant, can be marked, will show the fuel level yet won=92t soak up th
e
> fuel and smell.****
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| Subject: | Re: Tail wires and Turnbuckle |
Hi Greg,
I believe the Last Original uses 1/16" cable. 1/16" is rated at 940lbs, if
you figure 4 on each side, that seems allot tougher than the wood it is
holding up(and down).
Skip
> [Original Message]
> From: Greg Cardinal <gcardinal@comcast.net>
> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Date: 7/29/2012 7:39:04 PM
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Tail wires and Turnbuckle
>
<gcardinal@comcast.net>
>
> Hi Fred,
>
> You will have a hard time bending 1X19 cable around a thimble. You can
use
> swaged fittings and eliminate the thimble and nicopress sleeve. Finding
> someone with proper swaging tools can be a problem.
>
> 7X19 cable and nicopress fittings are common and acceptable.
>
> The tail bracing cables do their job in turbulent prop wash and they tend
to
> vibrate. 1/16" cable wouldn't give me a warm fuzzy feeling either.
>
> Greg Cardinal
> Minneapolis
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "FandS_Piet" <fkim79@gmail.com>
> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 5:50 PM
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Tail wires and Turnbuckle
>
>
> >
> > Hey Guys,
> > I am wondering if it is best or common practice to use 1x19 wire for
the
> > tail bracing. Thats what I want to use but it only seems to be
available
> > in 1/16th which doesnt give me a warm fuzzy feeling, and 1/8th which I
> > think is too big. Im also worried about wrapping it around the
thimble,
> > if it is possible?
> >
> > Also turn buckle size. Long or short, or does it not matter? Are there
> > any areas where the shorter turnbuckles dont allow for enough
adjustment?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > --------
> > Fred Kim
> > Pittsburgh, Pa
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Read this topic online here:
> >
> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=379528#379528
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Tail wires and Turnbuckle |
But Skip,
That plane has only been flying with those 1/16" cables for 41 years so far. How
do we know they will last?
:)
Bill C.
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| Subject: | Re: Hello Good People |
Good to have ya back here Buddy!- Get those "Get Away Sticks" healed up a
nd Get home and take it easy untill your all healed up.- Hope to see you
at Brodhead again soon, still looking forward to those formation flights.
-
Shad
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--- On Sun, 7/29/12, John Franklin <jbfjr@peoplepc.com> wrote:
From: John Franklin <jbfjr@peoplepc.com>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Hello Good People
Hi Kevin,
Great to see you're back "online"!- Behave yourself around those nurses &
therapists!
John Franklin
Prairie Aire 4TA0
Needville, TX
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>Subject: Pietenpol-List: Hello Good People
>
mil>
>
>Will share more with you in the next day or 2.- Today's first day I've h
ad the energy to open the computer.- My glasses hurt my broken nose.
>
>1st: Thanks so much for all the support after the crash.- Will address m
ore of this later.-
>
>2nd: will add to Dan's report based on our time this year prior to the cra
sh.
>
>3rd: thanks for the offer of financial and other support.- Very generous
but please only give WHAT you can, IF you can, and if you WANT TO.- You
owe us nothing but your friendship, which you are already generous with.
>
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>Kevin "Axel" Purtee
>NX899KP
>Austin/San Marcos, TX
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