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1. 04:39 AM - Re: fuel measuring stick (Ben Charvet)
2. 05:52 AM - tail wires (Douwe Blumberg)
3. 06:24 AM - Doc & Dee are The Best! (Gary Boothe)
4. 07:24 AM - Re: Re: A-65 Valve Covers (Michael Perez)
5. 07:30 AM - Re: Re: 1/16th tail brace wires (Michael Perez)
6. 07:39 AM - Re: A-65 Valve Covers (AircamperN11MS)
7. 07:39 AM - Re: Air Compressor (Pietn38b@aol.com)
8. 07:59 AM - Re: A-65 Valve Covers (AircamperN11MS)
9. 08:02 AM - Re: Re: A-65 Valve Covers (Michael Perez)
10. 12:41 PM - Futher Pieters (pineymb)
11. 01:51 PM - Re: Air Compressor (Jerry Dotson)
12. 01:56 PM - Re: Futher Pieters (Jerry Dotson)
13. 02:11 PM - rides abounded at Brodhead (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC])
14. 02:37 PM - Re: 1/16th tail brace wires (taildrags)
15. 02:45 PM - Re: Re: 1/16th tail brace wires (Michael Perez)
16. 03:15 PM - The Last Original (JOSEPH SWITHIN)
17. 03:57 PM - Re: The Last Original (Matthew)
18. 04:22 PM - Re: The Last Original (shad bell)
19. 04:32 PM - Re: Futher Pieters (helspersew@aol.com)
20. 05:44 PM - Re: The Last Original (Daniel Engelkenjohn)
21. 05:49 PM - Front seat controls (John Francis)
22. 07:01 PM - Re: The Last Original (shad bell)
23. 08:18 PM - Re: The Last Original (dwilson)
24. 08:47 PM - The Last Original (markmckellar@reagan.com)
25. 08:47 PM - Re: Front seat controls (Bill Church)
26. 08:55 PM - Re: The Last Original (Ryan Mueller)
27. 09:02 PM - Re: Futher Pieters (aerocarjake)
28. 10:05 PM - Re: Front seat controls (Mark Roberts)
29. 10:08 PM - Re: Front seat controls (taildrags)
30. 10:34 PM - Re: Front seat controls (Billy McCaskill)
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Subject: | Re: fuel measuring stick |
I just use a piece if wood. With just a quick dip it is easy to read an drie
s quickly
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On Jul 29, 2012, at 7:06 PM, "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg@earthlink.net> w
rote:
> I want to make up a =9Cfuel measuring stick=9D to physically c
onfirm fuel levels. I=99d like it to be some material which makes it e
asy to tell where the fuel level is, and which I can permanently mark. Wood
is great, but it soaks up the fuel and stinks up any compartment it is stor
ed in. I was wondering if anyone had any clever ideas for a material which i
s fuel resistant, can be marked, will show the fuel level yet won=99t s
oak up the fuel and smell.
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> Douwe
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DANG.! After Oscar's post I'm bugged.
Might have to add that to my ever-lengthening "finish list" and spend a few
hours replacing those cables with 3/32.
Douwe
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Ps. Thanks for the fuel stick ideas. Got some black acetal rod coming
which I'll scuff to dull it and grind some marking rings on. Liked the tube
idea as well.
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Subject: | Doc & Dee are The Best! |
Doc & Dee - Obviously your offer was greatly appreciated by a guy who's a
long way from home! .and, no doubt, his Pietenpol endeavors are put in a
kindly light to his wife and family to see him well-treated by people he has
not met.
Thanks for all you do!
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
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From: Mike Weaver [mailto:flyinghighpiet@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 10:34 PM
Cc: Gary Boothe; Dawn Weaver
Subject: Re: Pietenpol stuff
Sir,
WOW, I am speechless. I opened my email this morning and there was the
email you sent with your newsletter attached. It is quite a treat for me to
have to read and stay connected to Pietenpol folks. I miss being in the
garage working on my Piet, but I think about it often. My friend Gary
Boothe has taken the initiative to inform others of my deployment to
Afganistan. I am amazed with the concern and outreach from you and others.
Thank you for your generousity. I wanted to subscribe to your newsletter.
I actually wrote a check and filled out the order form some months ago, well
it got buried below some paperwork and forgotten. Then while doing some
final preparations for this deployment, I came across that paperwork. I
just did not have time to complete the matter, so it sits at home. I will
have my wife, Dawn, send it so that I may get my subcription started.
Thank you so much,
Mike
From: BPAN <mosherd@tds.net>
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 12:20 AM
Subject: Pietenpol stuff
To Mike Weaver -
We just heard that you're off doing good things for all of us and thought
you might like some back-home low and slow Pietenpol stuff to read.
Here's the last issue of the Brodhead Pietenpol Newsletter. If it helps to
pass some of your leisure time (just kidding) let us know and we'll get some
of the past issues to you too. bpan.tds.net <http://bpan.tds.net/> - web
is pietenpols.org <http://pietenpols.org/>
Thanks for what you're doing.
Doc & Dee Mosher
Editors, Brodhead Pietenpol Association
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Subject: | Re: A-65 Valve Covers |
Thanks Oscar. Those covers you have are exactly what I am looking for.
Michael Perez
Pietenpol HINT Videos
Karetaker Aero
www.karetakeraero.com
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Subject: | Re: 1/16th tail brace wires |
How much time do you have on your "new" 1/16 SS wires now Oscar?-
Michael Perez
=0APietenpol HINT Videos
=0AKaretaker Aero
=0Awww.karetakeraero.com
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Subject: | Re: A-65 Valve Covers |
Mike,
This guy has a few to choose from. He has a big pile of them.
NEW CONTINENTAL VALVE COVERS FOR SALE Rare find, approx 500 new, pickled A-65
to 0-300 Continental valve covers.Will separate, must purchase minimum of 4 covers(one
set $30.00).Cheap enough, you can use them for ash trays, Yuppy pilots
who have their aircraft N-number on their underware band, tye and coffee cup
can use them for a manly mans cereal bowl.770 883 0815-anytime Contact Kurt
D. Grasso - AEROSALES, Owner - located Woodstock, GA USA Telephone: 770-883-0815
. Posted July 5, 2012 Show all Ads posted by this Advertiser Recommend
This Ad to a Friend Email Advertiser Save to Watchlist Report This Ad
View Larger Pictures Finance New Lower Rates!
Good luck,
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Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
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Subject: | Re: Air Compressor |
Dan
I took my 5hp pivot mount sears motor to an electric motor repair shop.
He was ablr to repair it for a lot less than new if I could have found one.
The repair tech said it wasn't any different inside than most other motors.
Good luck
Jim
In a message dated 7/31/2012 12:45:34 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
marwilson@charter.net writes:
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "dwilson" <marwilson@charter.net>
Anyone care to recommend an air compressor for the shop? My 30 year old
Craftsman professional gave up the ghost. Can not locate a new motor with a
pivot style mount. Parts are no longer available from Sears. Yes, I want
continuous duty for drill, sander, impact tools, etc. Any suggestions?
Dan
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Subject: | Re: A-65 Valve Covers |
Here is a pic of the valve cover pile.
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Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
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Subject: | Re: A-65 Valve Covers |
Thanks for the help.
I contacted him a while ago and he said he didn't think he had any with the flange.
Michael Perez
Pietenpol HINT Videos
Karetaker Aero
www.karetakeraero.com
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Hopefully one day I can pass on my Piet to one of my grandkids who may also experience
the joy of owning one of these timeless machines.
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Adrian M
Winnipeg, MB
Canada
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Subject: | Re: Air Compressor |
DeVilbiss,Curtis, Champion, Ingersol-Rand, Quincy are all good compressors. Pricey
though. Will last a lifetime if cared for. I have an old Curtis cast iron
thing I bought 30 years ago. Still works fine I guess. It has been on loan for
years now.
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Jerry Dotson
59 Daniel Johnson Rd
Baker, FL 32531
First flight June 16,2012
Started building July, 2009
21" wheels
Lycoming O-235 C2C
Jay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44
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Subject: | Re: Futher Pieters |
That is just about too cute.
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Jerry Dotson
59 Daniel Johnson Rd
Baker, FL 32531
First flight June 16,2012
Started building July, 2009
21" wheels
Lycoming O-235 C2C
Jay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44
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Subject: | rides abounded at Brodhead |
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Subject: | Re: 1/16th tail brace wires |
Michael:
I'm not the only one who has flown Scout since the tail brace wire change, but
my logbook shows about 74 hours and 205 landings in the ~5 years since the wires
were changed (summer 2007).
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Oscar Zuniga
Medford/Ashland, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power
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Subject: | Re: 1/16th tail brace wires |
Thanks Oscar. We had talked about this subject before, maybe off list. I am using
1/16" stainless wires for the tail and was just curious.
Michael Perez
Pietenpol HINT Videos
Karetaker Aero
www.karetakeraero.com
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Subject: | The Last Original |
Do any drawings or information exist for the cowling that is on the Last Original?
Thanks
Joe Swithin
Morris, IL
Collecting Parts and Pieces Stage
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Subject: | Re: The Last Original |
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Subject: | Re: The Last Original |
Joe,- My father still has a brand new fiberglass cowling that was molded
from the last original cowling.- He has broght it to brodhead to sell-a
couple times but had no takers.- Let me know if you are interested.- I
think he paid $200 for it so just make him an offer he would probably take
150 or so.- It is designed for use with the corvair with the blower fan,
just like the last original.
-
Shad
--- On Tue, 7/31/12, JOSEPH SWITHIN <joeswithin@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: JOSEPH SWITHIN <joeswithin@yahoo.com>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: The Last Original
Do any drawings or information exist for the cowling that is on the Last Or
iginal?
Thanks
Joe Swithin
Morris, IL
Collecting Parts and Pieces Stage
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Subject: | Re: Futher Pieters |
A truly inspirational photo. Thanks for sharing. Very precious.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
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-----Original Message-----
From: pineymb <airltd@mts.net>
Sent: Tue, Jul 31, 2012 2:41 pm
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Futher Pieters
Hopefully one day I can pass on my Piet to one of my grandkids who may also
experience the joy of owning one of these timeless machines.
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Adrian M
Winnipeg, MB
Canada
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Subject: | Re: The Last Original |
Is this the long cowling from the prop hub to the firewall, or the short
one?
From: shad bell
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 6:21 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: The Last Original
Joe, My father still has a brand new fiberglass cowling that was
molded from the last original cowling. He has broght it to brodhead to
sell a couple times but had no takers. Let me know if you are
interested. I think he paid $200 for it so just make him an offer he
would probably take 150 or so. It is designed for use with the corvair
with the blower fan, just like the last original.
Shad
--- On Tue, 7/31/12, JOSEPH SWITHIN <joeswithin@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: JOSEPH SWITHIN <joeswithin@yahoo.com>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: The Last Original
To: "pietenpol-list@matronics.com"
<pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
Date: Tuesday, July 31, 2012, 6:15 PM
Do any drawings or information exist for the cowling that is on
the Last Original?
Thanks
Joe Swithin
Morris, IL
Collecting Parts and Pieces Stage
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Subject: | Front seat controls |
I've got to believe this question has come up before but I can't find it. What
are the pros and cons of having flying controls in the front seat? I was reading
some of the accident reports that Douwe was referring to and found a couple
caused by jammed front seat controls by passengers and loose items.
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Subject: | Re: The Last Original |
I am not sure, I will give you his email address.- I believe it is the lo
ng one, like the Brown Aero-aircamper (Tom Brown).- Gary Bell: gary_bel
l@frontier.com just email him and ask any questions directly it will be eas
ier that way.- It might take him a day or two to respond, as I think he i
s on the road.
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Shad
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Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: The Last Original
Is this the long cowling from the prop hub to the firewall, or the short on
e?
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From: shad bell
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 6:21 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: The Last Original
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Joe,- My father still has a brand new fiberglass cowling that was molded
from the last original cowling.- He has broght it to brodhead to sell a c
ouple times but had no takers.- Let me know if you are interested.- I t
hink he paid $200 for it so just make him an offer he would probably take 1
50 or so.- It is designed for use with the corvair with the blower fan, j
ust like the last original.
-
Shad
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Subject: Pietenpol-List: The Last Original
Do any drawings or information exist for the cowling that is on the Last Or
iginal?
Thanks
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Joe Swithin
Morris, IL
Collecting Parts and Pieces Stage
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Subject: | Re: The Last Original |
I also have an original fiberglass cowling for the long fuselage. Cowling was
pulled from the original mold. I know that there are a couple of builders that
would like to use this cowling to build a new mold in order to make new cowlings.
The original mold was made from concrete. Is there really any interest
out there for this cowling?
Dan
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Subject: | The Last Original |
Is The Last Original currently flying with the Corvair conversion per BHP ?
Mark McKellar
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Subject: | Re: Front seat controls |
One advantage of having controls in the front seat is that passengers can control
the plane from there.
One disadvantage of having controls in the front seat is that passengers can control
the plane from there.
BC
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Subject: | Re: The Last Original |
The engine has been updated internally with parts recommended by William
Wynne's conversion method, but externally looks the same and still utilizes
the blower fan.
Ryan
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On Jul 31, 2012 10:48 PM, <markmckellar@reagan.com> wrote:
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> Is The Last Original currently flying with the Corvair conversion per BHP ?
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> Mark McKellar
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Subject: | Re: Futher Pieters |
Two cute for sure.... The next gen and happiest passengers....
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Jake Schultz - curator,
Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)
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Subject: | Re: Front seat controls |
I think I have seen pictures on westcoastpiet.com of the controls in the front
with a removable stick. That seems safer.
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Subject: | Re: Front seat controls |
I have taken several pilots for rides in Scout and all of them appreciated the
opportunity to handle the controls. I have checked out one or two other pilots
in the airplane and other than not having carb heat or brakes duplicated up
front, the presence of dual controls was of immeasurable value to those pilots
in understanding the airplane and in learning to fly it. In fact, my own checkout
in Scout was from the front cockpit, with zero instruments, no brakes, no
carb heat up there. My instructor talked me through each maneuver from the
rear cockpit, operated carb heat and brakes when necessary, and I flew the maneuvers
with stick, rudder, and throttle- and learned my airplane by touch, sound,
and smell and my mind wasn't in the equation very much.. just heart and soul.
We are almost inseparable now and I think part of the reason for that is
because we met and learned each other that way. I'm sure I could talk an experienced
tailwheel pilot through a ground checkout in a Piet, but it's far better
to learn in a dual cockpit setup and way more fun. The Piet experience is
something you want to share.
I have flown numerous children and non-pilot passengers in Scout as well, and can
tell you that you must, must, must be careful and watchful about shoes, clothes,
seatbelts, jackets, and other things that happen in the cockpit. The pilot's
feet are alongside the passenger's seat, the rudder pedals and brakes are
right there too, so are the passenger's seatbelts and who knows what else.
In cooler weather it's even worse, what with jackets and boots and gloves. Not
having dual controls won't change that, but just saying that the space between
pilot and passenger can get very crowded and very busy, especially during landing,
and anything that obstructs your feet during landing won't be a good thing.
In cooler weather I wear C-width Justin Roper wellington boots because
they are narrow and smooth and they seem to slide past any obstruction down in
the leg-holes, but in the summertime and while solo I can wear running shoes
if they aren't too bulky or have hanging laces. I'm not kidding... it's a tight
area down there and when you're poking your toes at a brake pedal in a crosswind,
the last thing you want is for your big bulky shoe to hang up on a seatbelt
or fuselage framing member or anything else. I have had the edge of my shoe
sole hang up against the front seat support when I thought I was pressing
the brake, and boy did I wonder what had happened to my brakes! Good thing I'm
such a good tailwheel pilot that I saved the landing ;o)
The Piet is a great airplane for hopping rides and people have said that removing
the front cockpit controls makes them feel better when taking non-pilots for
a ride, but I don't think it makes that much more room in the cockpit and it
sure doesn't give the passenger the same feeling. My vote is for dual controls.
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Oscar Zuniga
Medford/Ashland, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power
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Subject: | Re: Front seat controls |
Dan Helsper has a removable stick in his front cockpit, and did remove it on several
occasions at Brodhead a couple of weeks ago depending on who was riding
in the front seat. He left it in place for my ride, and let me take control for
a few minutes. I can see the usefulness of having removable controls in the
front, and it doesn't seem like it would be that much extra work to do so.
do not archive
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Billy McCaskill
Baker, LA
tail section almost done, starting on ribs soon
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