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1. 12:14 AM - Re: The final hours of Operation Axel (shad bell)
2. 02:34 AM - Re: Meet "RE-PIET" NX799B!! (Jack@textors.com)
3. 05:07 AM - Kevin and H2O... (Douwe Blumberg)
4. 05:12 AM - RE-PIET (Douwe Blumberg)
5. 06:07 AM - Re: Progress Update (Michael Perez)
6. 06:26 AM - Re: Fuel tank shut off valve (Michael Perez)
7. 06:33 AM - Re: Meet "RE-PIET" NX799B!! (Michael Perez)
8. 07:07 AM - Donated parts for FBG rebuild. (Jim Markle)
9. 07:54 AM - Re: Meet "RE-PIET" NX799B!! (aerocarjake)
10. 08:21 AM - Re: Kevin and H2O... (IT Girl)
11. 08:34 AM - Re: The final hours of Operation Axel (Ryan Mueller)
12. 09:53 AM - Re: RE-PIET (Gerry Holland)
13. 10:16 AM - Re: Fuel tank shut off valve (dgaldrich)
14. 11:57 AM - Re: Fuel tank shut off valve (taildrags)
15. 12:08 PM - taxi tests.. (Douwe Blumberg)
16. 12:22 PM - Re: made first saw dust pile (biplan53)
17. 04:32 PM - Re: taxi tests.. (helspersew@aol.com)
18. 05:36 PM - Re: taxi tests.. (Jerry Dotson)
19. 06:17 PM - Re: Re: made first saw dust pile (Dave Millikan)
20. 07:06 PM - Re: Meet "RE-PIET" NX799B!! (dwilson)
21. 07:32 PM - Re: made first saw dust pile (nightmare)
22. 07:52 PM - Re: Meet "RE-PIET" NX799B!! (Pieti Lowell)
23. 10:15 PM - Operation Axel has come to a conclusion (Ryan Mueller)
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| Subject: | Re: The final hours of Operation Axel |
Ryan, My contribution got mailed out today, please make sure it gets forwar
ded to "The Great Axle Purtee", and last but not least-"The Great IT Girl
".- I am glad to contribute in a time of need to two of the most gracious
people I have the privilege to know.
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Shad
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| Subject: | Re: Meet "RE-PIET" NX799B!! |
Douwe a work of art, naturally!
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Jack Textor
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On Aug 3, 2012, at 3:27 PM, "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg@earthlink.net> w
rote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> Let me know if these pictures attach. If not, will someone in the =9C
know=9D about that stuff contact me and help me get them posted?
>
> Well, after a two and a half year rebuild/facelift, here she is!!!
>
> Taxied her around today and everything seems solid. My prayer is she flie
s as pretty as she looks.
>
> That=99s a Cont C-90 and a Cloud Car prop.
>
> She hasn=99t flown yet, but thanks everyone for their encouragement a
nd help!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> Douwe
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| Subject: | Kevin and H2O... |
First off, I want to say "THANK YOU" to Kevin for your willingness to share
some hard stuff with us. I know from my experience that sending those
emails describing such an incident is very, very difficult.
Secondly, I want to say that you are the THIRD guy I've known who's been
shot down because of water in the fuel, yes THREE!
I think my take-away is this is an area where it pays to be super nit-picky
about. When designing your system, imagine putting a couple cups of fuel
into your empty tank then ask yourself, could you drain that out? if not,
then you cannot get all the water out. Water will act just like that as it
stays under the fuel and slides around like mercury. It can sit in a
corner, or around a fuel strainer that sticks up too far or in a low spot in
a line until a certain attitude is achieved at which time that slug of water
will roll over to the strainer and enter the line.
You want there to be no possible spot for water to hide when the tank is at
the same position it will be in the three-point position. If it can't enter
the lines at the three-point, but wants to collect near the back, install a
sump at the very back end of the tank and put a quick drain so you can drain
there and at the gascolator. Or be sure to raise the tail and slosh it over
to the strainers.
Also be sure all your fuel lines run downhill at all times, including at the
three-point position. I routed mine so the lines came down the cabanes,
then ran forward along the fuse for a bit. I angled them down as they ran
along the fuse, but then noticed that with the tail down, they were actually
running uphill a bit forming a sump which could have trapped some water at
the three point until the tail was raised at which point the water would
travel into the gascolator, AFTER I had drained the gascolator.
Thanks again Kevin! And Shelley, I love how you're taking care of your
MAN!!
Let's all be careful out there..
Douwe
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THANK YOU ALL!!
For your kind and encouraging words. I'm truly not into "kudos", but it is
nice to put that final finishing touch on the project, stand back and then
be able to share it with a bunch of guys (and gal??) who truly appreciate
the work and love that went into it.
To answer a few questions. I'll try to get some cockpit shots today. And
Mike, I love the look of the engine without the eyebrows and my engine guy
said I wouldn't need them and referred me to the old Rose Parakeet which
didn't use them and had no problems. The brit Piet, GHOAL doesn't use them
either and has no problems, though their weather is much cooler. So we
decided to add a temp CHT gauge on a back cylinder and just monitor temps.
We're feeling that enough air should enter the grill that it will form some
pressure and shoot out around the cylinder bases.
If the temps are higher than comfortable, my winter project will be to
fabricate cooling eyebrows.
Douwe
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Thank you Vic.-- It is funny you mention the shop...I need to move the
plane 90 degrees, point is more-east as opposed to the current north),
-so I will have room to mount the engine mount and engine, as well as the
tail pieces. To do so, I need to move around everything else in the shop.
I thought while doing that, I might as well give the shop a "good cleaning.
"- If I did not clean up as much, I may have the plane done...
-
Michael Perez
Pietenpol HINT Videos
Karetaker Aero
www.karetakeraero.com
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel tank shut off valve |
Hello Steve. ACS sells a mini ball valve that requires very little effort t
o move the handle. The handle is quite large, but I plan to machine mine do
wn some...like Mike Cuy did his.
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I too was going to attach my valve at the tank, but Mike Cuy was concerned
that by working the valve, over time, that rocking stress may fatigue the a
luminum tank where it attaches.- His valve is mounted off of the firewall
...a stronger structure. I will be doing this as well.
Michael Perez
Pietenpol HINT Videos
Karetaker Aero
www.karetakeraero.com
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| Subject: | Re: Meet "RE-PIET" NX799B!! |
It usually takes something special, unique if you will, to get my attention
. I have seen quite a few pictures of Pietenpols over the years and have se
en a lot of very nice planes. Yours however has really got my attention, I
am very impressed! Outstanding!- Love the long exhaust pipes. (I believe
you took some flak when you first brought up that idea...?)- The plane is
very unique and has a very artistic/art-deco look, which I think is great!
I like the artistic flair and deviation from the norm!
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I too am VERY curious as to your engine cooling. PLEASE keep us posted on t
hat! I will be working on cowlings/cooling pretty soon and if I can get awa
y with no eye brows for my engine cooling...
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Again, plane is outstanding!-
Michael Perez
Pietenpol HINT Videos
Karetaker Aero
www.karetakeraero.com
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| Subject: | Donated parts for FBG rebuild. |
I have forwarded the list of "fbg_parts@mindspring.com" parts and your contact
info to Kevin. And thank you!
If you have anything to help out with and did not send it to the fbg_parts email
address, please send Kevin a note directly. We don't want to miss anything
that may have been offered only on the Matronics list.
And, since it's time to get started ordering parts, we don't want him to order
anything that may just be a UPS delivery away from your shop.
Kevin's email address: kevin.purtee@us.army.mil
JM
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| Subject: | Re: Meet "RE-PIET" NX799B!! |
That sculpture is truly beautiful... and how you managed to make the bronze look
like fabric is AMAZING...!!
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Jake Schultz - curator,
Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)
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| Subject: | Re: Kevin and H2O... |
Thank you Douwe
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Shelley Tumino
IT Girl
wife of "Axel"
NX899KP
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| Subject: | Re: The final hours of Operation Axel |
Excellent. I will ensure it gets there. Thank you for your generosity, and
have a nice weekend,
Ryan
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On Aug 4, 2012 2:16 AM, "shad bell" <aviatorbell@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Ryan, My contribution got mailed out today, please make sure it gets
> forwarded to "The Great Axle Purtee", and last but not least "The Great IT
> Girl". I am glad to contribute in a time of need to two of the most
> gracious people I have the privilege to know.
>
> Shad
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Douwe Hi!
Your words: If the temps are higher than comfortable, my winter project
will be to fabricate cooling eyebrows.
Based on the wonderful work you have done on your Pietenpol it may well
be you have an Art Deco style version of the 'eyebrows' in mind.
I look forward those but.....
I was going to fabricate new eyebrows but ended up buying them from a
company in Czechoslovakia.
They are now fitted and are great. I polished the aluminium to get
vintage look. Might add emblem in brass or copper later.
Cost before shipping was 199 Euros ($250) for the pair including
fittings and templates if needed for repair.
They were properly riveted and fitted straightaway.
Their contact details are:
http://www.falconaircraft.cz/inzerce/inzerat/piper-j3-cub-l4-baffle-cowlin
g-set-continental-engines-c65-c85-c90-0-200a
Photo attached showing mine on an old Corben with A75.
Regards
Gerry
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel tank shut off valve |
Another consideration is the placement of the valve in the case of an off-field
landing. A valve at the tank, especially if is easy to reach or cable operate,
can be quickly turned off limiting probability of a major leak. A valve much
further down stream would mean a leak in the "up stream" line would be unstoppable.
Of course the other side is that a valve close to the engine shuts it
down faster in case of a fire.
I believe Dick Navrotil has two valves operated by a single cable offering the
best of both worlds. Food for thought...
Dave Aldrich
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel tank shut off valve |
Scout has one fuel shutoff valve and it's the 1/4" brass miniature ball valve offered
by Aircraft Spruce as part no. 05-23325. The valve is the first thing
off the nose tank outlet so when it's shut off, the only fuel is in the tank (none
in hoses). I have a push-pull knob in the cockpit with Bowden cable control
of the lever handle on the valve. I had to add an aluminum piece to the standard
valve handle to get the best leverage on it through the full stroke of
the on-off knob due to the geometry of my setup.
I have all power controls in the airplane set up so that "everything full forward"
gives max power... throttle, carb heat, fuel selector.
I used EZ Turn on all of the fuel and oil line fittings on the airplane; no teflon
tape, no pipe dope.
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Oscar Zuniga
Medford/Ashland, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power
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I'm gonna get yelled at but I got the tail up today, but here's why.
Taxied her a bunch yesterday to let the axle bearings and drum brakes
break-in. Everything seemed good.
Today, there was a VERY strong wind coming straight down the runway so I
could get the tail up with a ground speed of MAYBE 15. Hard to get in
trouble..
Anyways, she's tracking true and everything seems good.
Douwe
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| Subject: | Re: made first saw dust pile |
Good Luck!!! Take it one piece at a time. Do not archive.
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Building steel fuselage aircamper.
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| Subject: | Re: taxi tests.. |
Douwe,
No yelling from this quarter. Awesome news. You are going to be the test pi
lot, right? This would be my recommendation to anybody that spent major por
tions of their life in this endeavor. My recommendation would be to get ade
quate taildragger instruction until one feels prepared to fly the Piet. The
n, if anything bad happens, you are only second-guessing yourself instead o
f the test pilot.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
-----Original Message-----
From: Douwe Blumberg <douweblumberg@earthlink.net>
Sent: Sat, Aug 4, 2012 2:08 pm
Subject: Pietenpol-List: taxi tests..
I=99m gonna get yelled at but I got the tail up today,but here
=99s why
Taxied her a bunch yesterday to let the axle bearings anddrum brakes break-
in. Everything seemed good.
Today, there was a VERY strong wind coming straight down therunway so I cou
ld get the tail up with a ground speed of MAYBE 15. Hard to getin trouble.
.
Anyways, she=99s tracking true and everything seemsgood.
Douwe
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| Subject: | Re: taxi tests.. |
What Dan said. Go for it. I just kept getting faster until I felt like I was in
control rather than the airplane controlling me.
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Jerry Dotson
59 Daniel Johnson Rd
Baker, FL 32531
First flight June 16,2012
Started building July, 2009
21" wheels
Lycoming O-235 C2C
Jay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44
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| Subject: | Re: made first saw dust pile |
If you,re just starting, get yurself a 12" disk sandere at
Harbor freight, the n stock up on 60 or 8o grit discs.
I have finished my wings and tail,starting the stell tube fuse.
I used steel tube drag truss in the wings ala Starduster Too.
Tuenbuckles are ,spensive.
Spent several weeks going over the Wynne data, essentially using the hoperm
an dwgs with the wing moved aft a bit.
Dave , Inverness Fla- NX1QZ
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From: biplan53 <biplan53@hotmail.com>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: made first saw dust pile
Good Luck!!! Take it one piece at a time. Do not archive.
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| Subject: | Re: Meet "RE-PIET" NX799B!! |
OH! MY GOSH! That is one fine " Ship ". Let's see the panel.
Dan
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| Subject: | Re: made first saw dust pile |
Thanks guys, I'll keep you posted.
Paul Donahue
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| Subject: | Re: Meet "RE-PIET" NX799B!! |
Douwe:
I think you out-did yourself-I like this one even better than your practice number
one.She should fly like a crowned queen,
Pieti Lowell
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| Subject: | Operation Axel has come to a conclusion |
As of the beginning of this writing, it is now midnight, and Operation Axel has
drawn to a close. By drawn to a close, I mean that we are no longer actively
soliciting contributions. For those whose contributions are on the way, that is
fine.and if you are just now seeing the postings or have sent the information
to others, additional contributions are certainly welcome.
Please be patient with me..I am going to wait one week to deliver the final count
of contributions, as I am anticipating a number of checks in the mail yet.
At that point I will send Kevin and Shelley a lump sum check for the collected
amount, and will do so every week until y'all stop sending me money. :P
I feel safe in saying that, on behalf and Kevin and Shelley and those of us fortunate
to organize Operation Axel, we all thank you so very much for reaching
out to helping valued members of our aviation and Pietenpol community in their
trying time. Thank you all again for your generosity.a pretty amazing thing that
has its genesis in one young Minnesotan's desire to see the world from just
a little ways up. Enjoy the rest of your weekend,
Ryan
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