Today's Message Index:
----------------------
1. 12:16 AM - Re: Quick Progress Update (tdudley@umn.edu)
2. 02:25 AM - Re: Quick Progress Update (Faith Maltese Kuri)
3. 03:07 AM - Re: Quick Progress Update (Bill Church)
4. 03:41 AM - Re: Re: rudder and elevator hinge decision (helspersew@aol.com)
5. 03:46 AM - Re: Quick Progress Update (helspersew@aol.com)
6. 04:47 AM - Kevin's Balancing Act (woodflier@aol.com)
7. 05:19 AM - Re: Quick Progress Update (curtdm(at)gmail.com)
8. 05:21 AM - Re: Re: rudder and elevator hinge decision (steve emo)
9. 05:24 AM - Re: Quick Progress Update (AircamperN11MS)
10. 05:28 AM - Re: Quick Progress Update (Gary Boothe)
11. 05:55 AM - Re: Quick Progress Update (TOM STINEMETZE)
12. 08:18 AM - Circuit Breakers (Jack@textors.com)
13. 08:26 AM - Re: Circuit Breakers (tools)
14. 09:12 AM - Re: Quick Progress Update (IT Girl)
15. 09:14 AM - Re: Quick Progress Update (IT Girl)
16. 09:22 AM - Re: Quick Progress Update (dwilson)
17. 09:23 AM - Re: Sonex (AircamperN11MS)
18. 09:30 AM - Re: Kevin's Balancing Act (IT Girl)
19. 09:30 AM - Re: Re: Sonex (John Hofmann)
20. 09:37 AM - Re: Sonex (AircamperN11MS)
21. 09:43 AM - Re: Quick Progress Update (Jim Boyer)
22. 09:50 AM - Re: stall characteristics (giacummo)
23. 09:56 AM - Re: Re: Quick Progress Update (airlion)
24. 10:06 AM - Re: Re: Quick Progress Update (Jack Phillips)
25. 10:42 AM - Re: Re: rudder and elevator hinge decision (mike Hardaway)
26. 11:17 AM - "RE-PIET" FLEW!!!!!!!!!!!! (Douwe Blumberg)
27. 11:25 AM - Douwe's Pietenpol flew today! (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC])
28. 11:26 AM - Re: "RE-PIET" FLEW!!!!!!!!!!!! (John Hofmann)
29. 11:27 AM - Re: Douwe's Pietenpol flew today! (AircamperN11MS)
30. 11:29 AM - Re: "RE-PIET" FLEW!!!!!!!!!!!! (helspersew@aol.com)
31. 11:47 AM - Re: "RE-PIET" FLEW!!!!!!!!!!!! (Jack@textors.com)
32. 11:56 AM - Re: "RE-PIET" FLEW!!!!!!!!!!!! (Mark Roberts)
33. 12:14 PM - Re: "RE-PIET" FLEW!!!!!!!!!!!! (K5YAC)
34. 12:20 PM - Re: "RE-PIET" FLEW!!!!!!!!!!!! (Chris Rusch)
35. 12:30 PM - Re: "RE-PIET" FLEW!!!!!!!!!!!! (John Francis)
36. 12:49 PM - Re: "RE-PIET" FLEW!!!!!!!!!!!! (Jim Boyer)
37. 12:55 PM - Re: "RE-PIET" FLEW!!!!!!!!!!!! (Bill Church)
38. 12:56 PM - Re: "RE-PIET" FLEW!!!!!!!!!!!! (gboothe5@comcast.net)
39. 01:05 PM - Re: "RE-PIET" FLEW!!!!!!!!!!!! (Jerry Dotson)
40. 01:58 PM - Re: "RE-PIET" FLEW!!!!!!!!!!!! (bender)
41. 02:15 PM - Another Piet is Born (gboothe5@comcast.net)
42. 02:51 PM - Re: Sonex (DaveG601XL)
43. 03:02 PM - Re: Another Piet is Born (Bill Church)
44. 03:03 PM - Re: "RE-PIET" FLEW!!!!!!!!!!!! (giacummo)
45. 03:09 PM - Re: Another Piet is Born - the rest of the story... (Gary Boothe)
46. 03:42 PM - Re: Another Piet is Born (helspersew@aol.com)
47. 03:55 PM - Re: Another Piet is Born (Michael Groah)
48. 04:27 PM - Douwe's LIGHT tail (nightmare)
49. 04:40 PM - Re: Another Piet is Born (curtdm(at)gmail.com)
50. 04:41 PM - Re: "RE-PIET" FLEW!!!!!!!!!!!! (kevinpurtee)
51. 04:42 PM - Re: Another Piet is Born (kevinpurtee)
52. 04:48 PM - Re: Another Piet is Born (echobravo4)
53. 04:53 PM - Re: Quick Progress Update (kevinpurtee)
54. 04:54 PM - Re: "RE-PIET" FLEW!!!!!!!!!!!! (echobravo4)
55. 05:19 PM - Re: Re: Another Piet is Born (Gary Boothe)
56. 05:27 PM - T.C. is watching (Lawrence Williams)
57. 06:04 PM - Re: T.C. is watching (IT Girl)
58. 06:08 PM - Re: "RE-PIET" FLEW!!!!!!!!!!!! (shad bell)
59. 07:00 PM - Re: Re: More Pietenpol Roots in Oklahoma (aircamperace@yahoo.com)
60. 07:16 PM - Re: "RE-PIET" FLEW!!!!!!!!!!!! (johnwoods@westnet.com.au)
61. 07:21 PM - Re: "RE-PIET" FLEW!!!!!!!!!!!! (Dan Yocum)
62. 07:30 PM - Re: T.C. is watching (Dan Yocum)
63. 07:32 PM - Re: Another Piet is Born - the rest of the story... (Dan Yocum)
64. 07:34 PM - Re: Another Piet is Born (Dan Yocum)
65. 07:36 PM - Re: T.C. is watching (Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB)
66. 08:03 PM - Re: T.C. is watching (Dave and Connie)
67. 08:05 PM - Good information on turning back to the runway (Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB)
68. 09:18 PM - Some disassembly required (Ken Bickers)
69. 09:28 PM - Re: T.C. is watching (K5YAC)
70. 10:26 PM - Re: T.C. is watching (DO NOT ARCHIVE)
71. 10:32 PM - Re: T.C. is watching (DO NOT ARCHIVE)
72. 10:45 PM - Re: Good information on turning back to the runway (Ryan Mueller)
Message 1
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Quick Progress Update |
Kevin,
When I am not building my Piet I make my living rodding/nailing femurs and fixing
broken bones. I met you and Mark Chouinard together briefly at Oshkosh last
year (the EAA welding seminar) and I don't suspect you remember, but I've been
following your progress on the list. For what it's worth, I firmly believe
people recover from their injuries with attitude, love, and prayer. From the
picture you posted, it's clear you have all three. Best wishes for your continued
good progress and recovery. You are ahead of schedule from what I can tell.
They must have good Docs at Madison (not as good, maybe, as the University
of Minnesota, but that is open for debate!).
Tom
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=380363#380363
Message 2
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Quick Progress Update |
WOW.....Look at you. I can't believe there was ever anything wrong. You lo
ok terrific and we are all so happy you are on your road to a complete reco
very. Keep up the mending work.
Faith Maltese
(John Recine's Cousin)
-----Original Message-----
From: kevinpurtee <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
Sent: Tue, Aug 7, 2012 10:53 pm
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Quick Progress Update
il>
Picture's worth a 1000 words. Day 16 of recovery. I still have to use a
alker. Several of you saw me on days 2 and 3 and can verify what Shelley
ays: there's a remarkable difference from then to now. I didn't look in a
irror so I'll take your word.
I'm pointing at the broken femur, which I'm holding up on my own.
Thank you for your thoughts, prayers, help and love.
do not archive
--------
evin "Axel" Purtee
X899KP
ustin/San Marcos, TX
ead this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=380354#380354
ttachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/day_16_of_recovery_128.jpg
-========================
-= - The Pietenpol-List Email Forum -
-= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse
-= the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription,
-= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ,
-= Photoshare, and much much more:
-
-= --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
-
-========================
-= - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS -
-= Same great content also available via the Web Forums!
-
-= --> http://forums.matronics.com
-
-========================
-= - List Contribution Web Site -
-= Thank you for your generous support!
-= -Matt Dralle, List Admin.
-= --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution
-========================
Message 3
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Quick Progress Update |
Ugh... That dress... Those shoes...
BC
do not archive
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=380368#380368
Message 4
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: rudder and elevator hinge decision |
Guys,
Has there ever been any dynamic testing done on the repeated opening and cl
osing of piano lids during times of high winds? Say, during a hurricane? ju
st curious.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Perez <speedbrake@sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Tue, Aug 7, 2012 4:05 pm
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: rudder and elevator hinge decision
I am very curious to know what the safety concerns are with using piano hin
ge on the elevators.
Michael Perez
Pietenpol HINT Videos
Karetaker Aero
www.karetakeraero.com
Message 5
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Quick Progress Update |
Hi Kevin,
Great to hear the good news on the healing/recovery. Remarkable. It won't b
e long till you get back to the workshop. All the best.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
do not archive
Message 6
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Kevin's Balancing Act |
Kevin, you look a heck of a lot better than the last time we saw you. Now w
e want to see Shelley looking equally rested and relaxed. Thanks for the vi
sual update.
Matt and Lynne Paxton
Message 7
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Quick Progress Update |
Kevin,
It's great to see you up on your own one foot. One could mistake you
for Captain Morgan.
I noticed Dan Yocum is offering a quick build solution for you.
You know Bill Church is making fun of how your walking with a walker;)
Thanks for the update!
--------
Curt Merdan
Flower Mound, TX
Do Not Archive
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=380373#380373
Message 8
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: rudder and elevator hinge decision |
I offer the following....
The hinge supports the force produced by the change in the surfaces
position, that being gravity and/or the aero forces. The main difference
between a piano hinge and a =93regular=94 hinge is the diameter of the hing
e
pin and the length. A piano hinge pin is much smaller in diameter. From a
simplest point of view the hinge pin is in shear. The load on the hinge
pin is the total force divide by the sum cross sectional areas on the hinge
pin in the ideal case.. On the surface a piano hinge should actually be
stronger. The problem comes with deflection of the mounting surfaces. If
the (more correctly when!) the mounting surfaces deflect it concentrates
the load (force) at more of a point or two. The idealized load is no
longer evenly distributed across the hinge length. The moral to the story
is the hinge pin diameter needs to be able to support the entire load at a
single point, if there is the potential for deflection (bending). Then
there are the binding and pinching issues when the surface deflects. Final
note, the Piet=92s design aileron and elevators loads and structural
stiffness=92s are totally different. It seems to me that the elevator and
rudder surface are not nearly as stiff as the aileron.
Steve
On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 5:03 PM, Gene Rambo <generambo@msn.com> wrote:
>
> Attachment method is not the issue. And, a piano lid is not opened and
> closed repeatedly to high stress levels ...and you wouldn't die if the li
d
> came off.
>
> On Aug 7, 2012, at 4:43 PM, Dan Yocum <yocum137@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > How are they weaker than the standard hinges? If they're attached to
> > the wood with the same method, there will be more attach points than th
e
> > standard hinges and, oh, I dunno - have you ever lifted a piano cover?
> > Them's heavy!
> >
> > No, I disagree. I think piano hinges will be strong and safe enough.
> >
> > Dan
> >
> > On 08/07/2012 02:10 PM, Gene Rambo wrote:
> >> In my humble opinion piano hinges are not appropriate or strong enough
> >> for elevators. They might be strong "enough", but not to multiples for
> >> safety's sake. There is too much riding on those hinges, and a failure
> >> there WILL kill you.
> >>
> >> Gene
> >> Do not archive
> >>
> >> On Aug 7, 2012, at 2:42 PM, "Allan Macklem" <awmacklem@cox.net
> >> <mailto:awmacklem@cox.net>> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Jack, I=92m not critiquing you design or skills, just have a question
.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I=92m planning on using piano hinges for the ailerons and just assume
d
> >>> that these would be good for the elevators as well. Is this faulty
> >>> thinking or unnecessary complication?
> >>>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
===========
===========
===========
===========
>
>
Message 9
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Quick Progress Update |
Wow, How do you do that???? It takes my body weeks for a cut to heal. Great
to see you up and smiling.
Next week you will be hopping one foot and cutting ribs all at the same time.
Good Job,
--------
Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=380375#380375
Message 10
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Quick Progress Update |
I'm glad to see that the 2x4 didn't leave very many marks....especially
since there wasn't any fire.
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of kevinpurtee
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 7:53 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Quick Progress Update
--> <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
Picture's worth a 1000 words. Day 16 of recovery. I still have to use a
walker. Several of you saw me on days 2 and 3 and can verify what Shelley
says: there's a remarkable difference from then to now. I didn't look in a
mirror so I'll take your word.
I'm pointing at the broken femur, which I'm holding up on my own.
Thank you for your thoughts, prayers, help and love.
do not archive
--------
Kevin "Axel" Purtee
NX899KP
Austin/San Marcos, TX
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=380354#380354
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/day_16_of_recovery_128.jpg
Message 11
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Quick Progress Update |
Axel:
That picture warms my heart. I don't look that good even when I'm at 100 percent.
Stinemetze
do not archive
>>> "kevinpurtee" <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil> 8/7/2012 9:52 PM >>>
Picture's worth a 1000 words. Day 16 of recovery. I still have to use a walker.
Several of you saw me on days 2 and 3 and can verify what Shelley says: there's
a remarkable difference from then to now. I didn't look in a mirror so
I'll take your word.
I'm pointing at the broken femur, which I'm holding up on my own.
Thank you for your thoughts, prayers, help and love.
do not archive
--------
Kevin "Axel" Purtee
NX899KP
Austin/San Marcos, TX
Message 12
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Circuit Breakers |
Is there a way to test the push to reset breakers?
Thanks!
Jack Textor
Sent from my iPad
Message 13
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Circuit Breakers |
Set up a circuit (e=ir) to run it near max capacity, make sure it doesn't blow,
then again above rated capacity, make sure it does.
However, many circuit breakers are only warranted until they blow THE FIRST time,
then the warranty is void. Seriously.
More normal way to check it, put it inline between battery terminals then short
circuit them. Not nearly as precise, but generally lets you know that it's working.
Many commercial electricians find the circuit they want to work on, by
shorting it out and then finding the tripped breaker.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=380384#380384
Message 14
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Quick Progress Update |
[quote="helspersew(at)aol.com"]Hi Kevin,
Great to hear the good news on the healing/recovery. Remarkable. It won't be
long till you get back to the workshop. All the best.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
do not archive
> [b]
In the workshop next week for rehab, both for Kevin and FBG! Jim Markle will be
here to help!
--------
Shelley Tumino
IT Girl
wife of "Axel"
NX899KP
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=380403#380403
Message 15
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Quick Progress Update |
AircamperN11MS wrote:
> Wow, How do you do that???? It takes my body weeks for a cut to heal. Great
to see you up and smiling.
>
> Next week you will be hopping one foot and cutting ribs all at the same time.
>
> Good Job,
He has been hopping on one foot to demonstrate to people how he is doing... hopping
on LEFT foot, not right foot. He is getting there.
Thanks for the kind words.
--------
Shelley Tumino
IT Girl
wife of "Axel"
NX899KP
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=380404#380404
Message 16
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Quick Progress Update |
As Billy Crystal would say " Kevin, you look MARVELOUS."
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=380405#380405
Message 17
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Those hinge-less ailerons work good. I did the phase one test flights on my friends
601 HDS. My only complaint I had was that my arm would get tired if I
did too much pattern work in crosswinds. They are stiffer than most other planes.
--------
Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=380406#380406
Message 18
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Kevin's Balancing Act |
I'll get there, although not as fast as he does.
Thanks for thinking of us.
--------
Shelley Tumino
IT Girl
wife of "Axel"
NX899KP
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=380407#380407
Message 19
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
They will get less stiff as metal fatigue sets in.
do not archive
John Hofmann
Vice-President, Information Technology
The Rees Group, Inc.
2424 American Lane
Madison, WI 53704
Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
Fax: 608.443.2474
Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com
On Aug 8, 2012, at 11:23 AM, AircamperN11MS wrote:
<Scott.liefeld@lacity.org>
>
> Those hinge-less ailerons work good. I did the phase one test
flights on my friends 601 HDS. My only complaint I had was that my arm
would get tired if I did too much pattern work in crosswinds. They are
stiffer than most other planes.
>
> --------
> Scott Liefeld
> Flying N11MS since March 1972
> Steel Tube
> C-85-12
> Wire Wheels
> Brodhead in 1996
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=380406#380406
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Message 20
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Oh, I thought they would work harden and get stiffer. But what do I know???
--------
Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=380409#380409
Message 21
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Quick Progress Update |
Hi Kevin,
Glad to see you up and walking; doesn't look like you will need that walker for
long. It is amazing how fast something like a broken bone can heal!
Keep up the getting better.
Cheers,
Jim B.
do not archive
Message 22
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: stall characteristics |
resuming, no stall warning, the feelings are enough. isn't it?
thank you.
--------
Mario Giacummo
http://vgmk1.blogspot.com
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=380412#380412
Message 23
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Quick Progress Update |
ITS GREAT TO HEAR OF YOUR PROGRESS KEVIN. IS IT TOO TOUCHY TO ASK HOW YOU BROKE
YOUR FEMUR? i GUESS ALL OF US MAY WANT PUT IN A FIX FOR THAT IF IT IS POSSIBLE.
KEEP UP THE GOOD RECOVERY. YOU ARE LOOKING GREAT.Gardiner
----- Original Message ----
From: IT Girl <shlizbth@gmail.com>
Sent: Wed, August 8, 2012 12:21:53 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Quick Progress Update
[quote="helspersew(at)aol.com"]Hi Kevin,
Great to hear the good news on the healing/recovery. Remarkable. It won't be
long till you get back to the workshop. All the best.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
do not archive
> [b]
In the workshop next week for rehab, both for Kevin and FBG! Jim Markle will be
here to help!
--------
Shelley Tumino
IT Girl
wife of "Axel"
NX899KP
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=380403#380403
Message 24
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Quick Progress Update |
Let us know when he can hop on the right foot.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of IT Girl
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 12:14 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Quick Progress Update
AircamperN11MS wrote:
> Wow, How do you do that???? It takes my body weeks for a cut to heal.
Great to see you up and smiling.
>
> Next week you will be hopping one foot and cutting ribs all at the same
time.
>
> Good Job,
He has been hopping on one foot to demonstrate to people how he is doing...
hopping on LEFT foot, not right foot. He is getting there.
Thanks for the kind words.
--------
Shelley Tumino
IT Girl
wife of "Axel"
NX899KP
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=380404#380404
Message 25
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: rudder and elevator hinge decision |
Piano hinges are certainly being tested in a lot of wind in this thread.
Mike hardaway
Please, do not archive
On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 3:41 AM, <helspersew@aol.com> wrote:
> Guys,
>
> Has there ever been any dynamic testing done on the repeated opening and
> closing of piano lids during times of high winds? Say, during a hurricane?
> just curious.
>
> Dan Helsper
> Puryear, TN do not archive
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Perez <speedbrake@sbcglobal.net>
> To: pietenpol-list <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Tue, Aug 7, 2012 4:05 pm
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: rudder and elevator hinge decision
>
> I am very curious to know what the safety concerns are with using piano
> hinge on the elevators.
>
> Michael Perez
> Pietenpol HINT Videos
> Karetaker Aero
> www.karetakeraero.com
>
> *
>
> " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
> tp://forums.matronics.com
> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
> *
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
Message 26
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | "RE-PIET" FLEW!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Well, after ten years of work and one MAJOR setback and rebuild (hence the
name RE-PIET) NX799B successfully flew this morning!
I am in the process of posting the video on youtube and will send the link
as soon as I can get my kid to do it for me.
My test pilot who is also my instructor flies the Ford trimotor for the EAA,
is an acrobatic instructor and has tons of big biplane time. He also weighs
225lbs.
While my empty weight (TOW for those overseas) was heavy at 816 with oil,
her CG was very good. She can carry a 230 pounder with 12 gallons before we
get to 20", and can carry a 200 pounder with 20 gallons before we hit our
rear CG. The weight is all forward and the heaviness is attributable to the
use of douglas fir, C-90 with starter, generator and battery. A 20 gal wing
tank, mufflers, sidepipes and heavy landing gear. However, I made the tail
VERY light and it paid off. I'm using a Cloud Car prop and the combo of the
C-90 and that prop seems to really help her climb.
Here's the scoop.
Tail was up before 2,000rpm, she evidently "levitated" off the pavement
after maybe a 100ft roll and climbed VERY well. I have it on video which
I'm posting. We don't know what she climbed at but from his experience he
guessed 6-700fpm. All I know is we were two thirds down a 4,000 runway, he
took off from the far end and before he was halfway to us was at 200 ft and
turning away from the airport. The climb was deceptively steep, kind of
like a big biplane. Just kind of goes up like an elevator, but very slowly.
He says she flies hands off and the rigging doesn't need to be changed.
Stalls very straight and kind of mushes. Did two very tight circles, he
said about 2.5 g's and she showed no tendency to do anything bad. Got her
up to about 100 in a shallow dive and the wings didn't come off. She landed
easily on the pavement and tracked straight and true. Smoke system worked
too, though I got oil on my tail.
I have to modify the brake cables as the inner housing pulled through the
plastic housing during run up, so I have to find some stouter cable ends.
My instructor comes back on the 27th, at which time we'll fly the champ a
bit and then off I go!!
GOD IS GOOD.
Douwe
Ps. Keving, I can't believe that picture of you!
PSS. DAN, I was hoping to fly formation with you next year!!
Message 27
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Douwe's Pietenpol flew today! |
Incredibly GREAT news Douwe!
The first (possibly) of many congratulations to you and Marci!
Mike C.
Message 28
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: "RE-PIET" FLEW!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Douwe,
This is fantastic news. Best of luck.
-john-
do not archive
Message 29
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Douwe's Pietenpol flew today! |
Worth RE-PIETing,
Congratulations !!!!!!!!!!!!!
--------
Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=380425#380425
Message 30
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: "RE-PIET" FLEW!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Oooh Hoooo!! Yea baby!! Can't wait to see the vid!! Congrats my friend!!
do not achive
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
I
Message 31
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: "RE-PIET" FLEW!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Douwe congratulations, fantastic news! Was that your first run on the engin
e or did you break-in on the ground?
Jack Textor
Sent from my iPad
On Aug 8, 2012, at 1:16 PM, "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg@earthlink.net> w
rote:
> Well, after ten years of work and one MAJOR setback and rebuild (hence the
name RE-PIET) NX799B successfully flew this morning!
>
> I am in the process of posting the video on youtube and will send the link
as soon as I can get my kid to do it for me
>
> My test pilot who is also my instructor flies the Ford trimotor for the EA
A, is an acrobatic instructor and has tons of big biplane time. He also wei
ghs 225lbs.
>
> While my empty weight (TOW for those overseas) was heavy at 816 with oil, h
er CG was very good. She can carry a 230 pounder with 12 gallons before we g
et to 20=9D, and can carry a 200 pounder with 20 gallons before we hit
our rear CG. The weight is all forward and the heaviness is attributable t
o the use of douglas fir, C-90 with starter, generator and battery. A 20 ga
l wing tank, mufflers, sidepipes and heavy landing gear. However, I made th
e tail VERY light and it paid off. I=99m using a Cloud Car prop and t
he combo of the C-90 and that prop seems to really help her climb.
>
> Here=99s the scoop.
>
> Tail was up before 2,000rpm, she evidently =9Clevitated=9D off
the pavement after maybe a 100ft roll and climbed VERY well. I have it on v
ideo which I=99m posting. We don=99t know what she climbed at b
ut from his experience he guessed 6-700fpm. All I know is we were two third
s down a 4,000 runway, he took off from the far end and before he was halfwa
y to us was at 200 ft and turning away from the airport. The climb was dece
ptively steep, kind of like a big biplane. Just kind of goes up like an ele
vator, but very slowly.
>
> He says she flies hands off and the rigging doesn=99t need to be cha
nged. Stalls very straight and kind of mushes. Did two very tight circles,
he said about 2.5 g=99s and she showed no tendency to do anything bad
. Got her up to about 100 in a shallow dive and the wings didn=99t co
me off. She landed easily on the pavement and tracked straight and true. S
moke system worked too, though I got oil on my tail.
>
> I have to modify the brake cables as the inner housing pulled through the p
lastic housing during run up, so I have to find some stouter cable ends. My
instructor comes back on the 27th, at which time we=99ll fly the cham
p a bit and then off I go!!
>
> GOD IS GOOD
>
> Douwe
>
> Ps. Keving, I can=99t believe that picture of you!
>
> PSS. DAN, I was hoping to fly formation with you next year!!
>
>
==========================
=========
==========================
=========
==========================
=========
==========================
=========
>
Message 32
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: "RE-PIET" FLEW!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Well done good and faithful servant!
Here's to many happy years of Pieting! or... RE_PIETING!
(Kinda sounds like last night's dinner acting up... Re-Pieting...)
Mark
--------
do not archive
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=380430#380430
Message 33
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: "RE-PIET" FLEW!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Congratulations Douwe! Can't imagine how that must feel.
--------
Mark Chouinard
Wings, Center Section and Empannage and Fuse framed up - Working on Landing Gear
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=380431#380431
Message 34
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: "RE-PIET" FLEW!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Douwe ,Thats Awesome!!! cant wait to see the video. Must be a huge relief.
Do not archive.
--------
NX321LR
Fully Assembled
Tail assembly and ailerons covered and painted.
Wings to be covered next.
Mistubishi Powered
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=380433#380433
Message 35
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: "RE-PIET" FLEW!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Cool beans. Congrats Douwe!
do not archive
--------
John Francis
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=380434#380434
Message 36
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: "RE-PIET" FLEW!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Wow, congratulaltions Douwe!!! Re-Piet is beautiful and now a full fledged airplane.
Looking forward to seeing her next year at Brodhead.
Jim B.
Message 37
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: "RE-PIET" FLEW!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Excellent news!
Congratulations on finally achieving lift-off.
Especially after overcoming such a major obstacle.
Bill C.
do not archive
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=380436#380436
Message 38
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: "RE-PIET" FLEW!!!!!!!!!!!! |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Message 39
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: "RE-PIET" FLEW!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Hoo waa great day. We need to get/keep a count for 2012 on first flights. Mr Boothe
getting the pink slip today I think.
--------
Jerry Dotson
59 Daniel Johnson Rd
Baker, FL 32531
First flight June 16,2012
Started building July, 2009
21" wheels
Lycoming O-235 C2C
Jay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44
do not archive
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=380438#380438
Message 40
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: "RE-PIET" FLEW!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Wow..!
congrats... i can't wait for that day myself..
looking forward to the video
jeff
do not archive
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=380441#380441
Message 41
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Another Piet is Born |
NX308MB just became an airplane! The inspection was quite pleasant...I'll fill
you in on those pesky hose clamp safeties when I get back to my computer.
Mike Groah - Meet me at 1,000' south of Lodi...and, may the best man win!
Gary from Cool
Do not Archive
Sent on the Sprint Now Network from my BlackBerry
Message 42
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Given the design of the hinge-less aileron system, there is no fatigue or work
hardening that will occur in several lifetimes of the aircraft. To reduce the
stiffness that I and "AircamperN11MS" have experienced, Zenith introduced a re-designed
bellcrank that increased the mechanical advantage of the stick. The
aileron is much better balanced to the elevator forces now.
My apologies for going off-topic into aluminum aircraft.
Still do not archive.
--------
David Gallagher
Zodiac 601 XL-B: flying, 220+ hours now
Next project under construction: Finish my father's Aircamper
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=380446#380446
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/ch_hingeless_aileron_196.pdf
Message 43
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Another Piet is Born |
Woo Hoo!
Great news, Gary.
Bill C.
do not archive
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=380448#380448
Message 44
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: "RE-PIET" FLEW!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Douwe, FELICITACIONES desde Sud America!!!!
Buenos vientos y muchas millas como dice por aca ;o)))
--------
Mario Giacummo
http://vgmk1.blogspot.com
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=380449#380449
Message 45
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Another Piet is Born - the rest of the story... |
It seems that Mr. Dilbeck has seen two examples of hose clamp failure, both
of which were caught in time. One was what appeared to be a compressing of
the rubber, which led to the clamp loosening, then rotating and rubbing on a
fuel line. The other was a fuel line hose clamp that had an internal failure
of some sort (he guessed it was over-tightened), and was doing no clamping
at all....there was evidence of fuel leakage. I'm not sure how a safety wire
would have helped in either case. He confessed that his preference for
seeing the safety wire was merely personal, and could only make
recommendations.
Below, is a picture of my tail wheel, after he changed the cotter pin:
Not too clear, but he has taken the part of the pin that is normally bent
over the bolt, and curled it around to tuck into a notch on the nut. He
recommends this in areas where something may catch on the cotter pin,
causing it to lose its position, catch a 'tag-along' or cause bodily harm,
such as around our feet and legs in the cockpit.
He was a pleasant, concerned and helpful individual, fully prepared with
paperwork, and the whole thing went well. He voluntarily assigned me a 50
mile radius, only because he feels 25 isn't enough, as a pilot might tend to
get bored with the 'race track'.
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
gboothe5@comcast.net
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 2:15 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Another Piet is Born
gboothe5@comcast.net
NX308MB just became an airplane! The inspection was quite pleasant...I'll
fill you in on those pesky hose clamp safeties when I get back to my
computer.
Mike Groah - Meet me at 1,000' south of Lodi...and, may the best man win!
Gary from Cool
Do not Archive
Sent on the SprintR Now Network from my BlackBerryR
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Message 46
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Another Piet is Born |
Congratulations Gary!!! Very cool. Can't wait to see your ship fly!!
Dan helsper
Puryear, TN
do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: gboothe5 <gboothe5@comcast.net>
Sent: Wed, Aug 8, 2012 4:15 pm
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Another Piet is Born
NX308MB just became an airplane! The inspection was quite pleasant...I'll f
ill
you in on those pesky hose clamp safeties when I get back to my computer.
Mike Groah - Meet me at 1,000' south of Lodi...and, may the best man win!
Gary from Cool
Do not Archive
Sent on the Sprint=C2=AE Now Network from my BlackBerry=C2=AE
Message 47
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Another Piet is Born |
Awesome Gary!!!!!
Congrats. And I accept your challenge. The race to forty hours is on! I'm ahead
at 0.9 hrs!
Mike Groah
Do not archive
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 8, 2012, at 2:14 PM, gboothe5@comcast.net wrote:
>
> NX308MB just became an airplane! The inspection was quite pleasant...I'll fill
you in on those pesky hose clamp safeties when I get back to my computer.
>
> Mike Groah - Meet me at 1,000' south of Lodi...and, may the best man win!
>
> Gary from Cool
> Do not Archive
>
> Sent on the Sprint Now Network from my BlackBerry
>
>
>
>
>
Message 48
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Douwe's LIGHT tail |
Douwe, Im also building with doug fir, would love to hear any weight savings tips,
especially the tail. thanks; Paul
--------
Paul Donahue
Started 8-3-12
do not archive
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=380461#380461
Message 49
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Another Piet is Born |
Gary,
Congratulations! You built one fine machine (now an airplane)!
I hope it takes flight very soon. You have 50 weeks to fly off 40 hours.
Thats less than 1 hour a week!
You can do it!
p.s. Thanks for the taxi time!
--------
Curt Merdan
Flower Mound, TX
Do Not Archive
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=380462#380462
Message 50
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: "RE-PIET" FLEW!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Congratulations, Douwe! Looking forward to joining you at Brodhead in a couple
of years:)
do not archive
--------
Kevin "Axel" Purtee
NX899KP
Austin/San Marcos, TX
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=380463#380463
Message 51
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Another Piet is Born |
Proud to know you, Gary!
do not archive
--------
Kevin "Axel" Purtee
NX899KP
Austin/San Marcos, TX
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=380464#380464
Message 52
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Another Piet is Born |
Congratulations Gary!
now you can really use those chocks!
Earl
do not archive
--------
Earl Brown
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I
intended to be.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=380465#380465
Message 53
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Quick Progress Update |
@Gardiner - As mentioned in my "Lessons Learned" post: land straight ahead following
a power failure on takeoff as we've been taught. Turning can lead to loss
of lift, falling out of the sky, nose down, right wing low. Most of my injuries
were from hitting my right side when the aircraft struck the ground.
I'll give some more thoughts on how the survivability aspects of the crash played
out. Need to spend a bit more time with the plane looking at the damage.
Gary has admitted that my broken nose was from him stepping on me...
Thanks to all of you for your thoughts and prayers. This is a great group and
God is great!
--------
Kevin "Axel" Purtee
NX899KP
Austin/San Marcos, TX
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=380466#380466
Message 54
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: "RE-PIET" FLEW!!!!!!!!!!!! |
congratulations Douwe! thats great!
Earl
Do not archive
--------
Earl Brown
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I
intended to be.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=380467#380467
Message 55
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Another Piet is Born |
My wife wants to know why I bring them home every night to clean them...
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of echobravo4
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 4:49 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Another Piet is Born
Congratulations Gary!
now you can really use those chocks!
Earl
do not archive
--------
Earl Brown
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up
where I intended to be.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=380465#380465
Message 56
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | T.C. is watching |
Even though I'm in B.C. I still have (limited) access to a computer when I
can find one.
With all the back-dated digests I see, a lot is happening BUT...
even though it's nice to send well wishes to Kevin and say how groovy Douwe
's reincarnation is along with various other topics, please remember that s
omeone searching the archives in 5-10 years won't even know who they are. I
n other words....
DO NOT ARCHIVE -
more of your forgettable "postcards" and save the archive space for the thi
ngs that will be helpful in the future.
Larry "Top Curmudgeon" Williamsnot flying (bad wx) in Pemberton, B.C.
do not archive
Message 57
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: T.C. is watching |
love you Larry!!
--------
Shelley Tumino
IT Girl
wife of "Axel"
NX899KP
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=380470#380470
Message 58
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: "RE-PIET" FLEW!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Congradulations, Douwe!=C2- If you can fly the champ you'll have no troub
le with piet.=C2- It just doesn't float=C2-compared to=C2-the champ.
=C2- Good Luck And God bless,
=C2-
Shad
Don't Archive
--- On Wed, 8/8/12, Douwe Blumberg <douweblumberg@earthlink.net> wrote:
From: Douwe Blumberg <douweblumberg@earthlink.net>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: "RE-PIET" FLEW!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well, after ten years of work and one MAJOR setback and rebuild (hence the
name RE-PIET) NX799B successfully flew this morning!
=C2-
I am in the process of posting the video on youtube and will send the link
as soon as I can get my kid to do it for me
=C2-
My test pilot who is also my instructor flies the Ford trimotor for the EAA
, is an acrobatic instructor and has tons of big biplane time.=C2- He als
o weighs 225lbs.
=C2-
While my empty weight (TOW for those overseas) was heavy at 816 with oil, h
er CG was very good.=C2- She can carry a 230 pounder with 12 gallons befo
re we get to 20=9D, and can carry a 200 pounder with 20 gallons befor
e we hit our rear CG.=C2- The weight is all forward and the heaviness is
attributable to the use of douglas fir, C-90 with starter, generator and ba
ttery.=C2- A 20 gal wing tank, mufflers, sidepipes and heavy landing gear
.=C2- However, I made the tail VERY light and it paid off.=C2- I
=99m using a Cloud Car prop and the combo of the C-90 and that prop seems t
o really help her climb.=C2-
=C2-
Here=99s the scoop.
=C2-
Tail was up before 2,000rpm, she evidently =9Clevitated=9D off
the pavement after maybe a 100ft roll and climbed VERY well.=C2- I have i
t on video which I=99m posting.=C2- We don=99t know what she
climbed at but from his experience he guessed 6-700fpm.=C2- All I know is
we were two thirds down a 4,000 runway, he took off from the far end and b
efore he was halfway to us was at 200 ft and turning away from the airport.
=C2- The climb was deceptively steep, kind of like a big biplane.=C2- J
ust kind of goes up like an elevator, but very slowly.
=C2-
He says she flies hands off and the rigging doesn=99t need to be chan
ged.=C2- Stalls very straight and kind of mushes.=C2- Did two very tigh
t circles, he said about 2.5 g=99s and she showed no tendency to do a
nything bad.=C2- Got her up to about 100 in a shallow dive and the wings
didn=99t come off.=C2- She landed easily on the pavement and tracke
d straight and true.=C2- Smoke system worked too, though I got oil on my
tail.=C2-
=C2-
I have to modify the brake cables as the inner housing pulled through the p
lastic housing during run up, so I have to find some stouter cable ends.=C2
- My instructor comes back on the 27th, at which time we=99ll fly t
he champ a bit and then off I go!!
=C2-
GOD IS GOOD
=C2-
Douwe
=C2-
Ps.=C2- Keving, I can=99t believe that picture of you!
=C2-
PSS.=C2- DAN, I was hoping to fly formation with you next year!!
Message 59
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: More Pietenpol Roots in Oklahoma |
I am sorry to hear about your loss.
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 7, 2012, at 5:26 AM, "TaiwanTeacher" <maine_sciguy@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Greetings, Mark, et al.
>
> Your thread popped up on a search yesterday (Aug 6th), as I sometimes perform
one on the anniversary of my father's death in a Pietenpol crash back in 1983
in Shelton Washington.
>
> You see... I am Orrin D. Hoopman, grandson of Orrin C. Hoopman.
>
> Not sure if any of you Pietenpol buffs know the bit of trivia that Orrin C.'s
eldest son died while being blessed to be a passenger in a Pietenpol for the
first time since he rode in his father's Air Camper back when he was four years
old, circa 1938. Delbert Orrin Hoopman (my father) and I had searched airshows
for years trying to find any Pietenpols. We sure found a beauty that day, the
prettiest one we had ever seen. The owner/pilot (who survived the crash) was
a wonderful guy named Fred Imrie from British Columbia. I lost contact with
him years ago, but continue to wish him well on these anniversaries.
>
> Please take good care of my Aunt Bernis "Bernie" and all her family when you
hook up with them in OK. Tell her that Orrin says, "Hello from Taiwan!"
>
> Over and out.
>
> --------
> Pietenpol's Forever!
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=380262#380262
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Message 60
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: "RE-PIET" FLEW!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Congratulations Douwe.
Great to hear she's a gentle lady.
You must be itching to take her up.
Looking forward to the video.
Best regards,
John Woods
Perth, Western Australia
Do not Archive.
Message 61
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: "RE-PIET" FLEW!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Well, you'll just have settle for giving me a ride...
Big congrats, Douwe! Fantastic job!
Do not archive
--
Dan Yocum
yocum137@gmail.com
On Aug 8, 2012, at 1:16 PM, "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg@earthlink.net> w
rote:
> Well, after ten years of work and one MAJOR setback and rebuild (hence the
name RE-PIET) NX799B successfully flew this morning!
>
> I am in the process of posting the video on youtube and will send the link
as soon as I can get my kid to do it for me
>
> My test pilot who is also my instructor flies the Ford trimotor for the EA
A, is an acrobatic instructor and has tons of big biplane time. He also wei
ghs 225lbs.
>
> While my empty weight (TOW for those overseas) was heavy at 816 with oil, h
er CG was very good. She can carry a 230 pounder with 12 gallons before we g
et to 20=9D, and can carry a 200 pounder with 20 gallons before we hit
our rear CG. The weight is all forward and the heaviness is attributable t
o the use of douglas fir, C-90 with starter, generator and battery. A 20 ga
l wing tank, mufflers, sidepipes and heavy landing gear. However, I made th
e tail VERY light and it paid off. I=99m using a Cloud Car prop and t
he combo of the C-90 and that prop seems to really help her climb.
>
> Here=99s the scoop.
>
> Tail was up before 2,000rpm, she evidently =9Clevitated=9D off
the pavement after maybe a 100ft roll and climbed VERY well. I have it on v
ideo which I=99m posting. We don=99t know what she climbed at b
ut from his experience he guessed 6-700fpm. All I know is we were two third
s down a 4,000 runway, he took off from the far end and before he was halfwa
y to us was at 200 ft and turning away from the airport. The climb was dece
ptively steep, kind of like a big biplane. Just kind of goes up like an ele
vator, but very slowly.
>
> He says she flies hands off and the rigging doesn=99t need to be cha
nged. Stalls very straight and kind of mushes. Did two very tight circles,
he said about 2.5 g=99s and she showed no tendency to do anything bad
. Got her up to about 100 in a shallow dive and the wings didn=99t co
me off. She landed easily on the pavement and tracked straight and true. S
moke system worked too, though I got oil on my tail.
>
> I have to modify the brake cables as the inner housing pulled through the p
lastic housing during run up, so I have to find some stouter cable ends. My
instructor comes back on the 27th, at which time we=99ll fly the cham
p a bit and then off I go!!
>
> GOD IS GOOD
>
> Douwe
>
> Ps. Keving, I can=99t believe that picture of you!
>
> PSS. DAN, I was hoping to fly formation with you next year!!
>
>
==========================
=========
==========================
=========
==========================
=========
==========================
=========
>
Message 62
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: T.C. is watching |
Ok,
Enough's enough. T.C. - as much as you think the magical phrase "do not arch
ive" works, let me tell you, it doesn't. I talked it over with Mr. Dralle a
nd the "do not archive" is a vestige of the *old* forum system. Go ahead an
d test it - do this google search;
site:matronics.com pietenpol "do not archive"
Ta-da! They're all there! I can just hear you say, "Rats!"
So, what should we focus your attention on, instead? I dunno...
Best!
Dan
Do not archive
--
Dan Yocum
yocum137@gmail.com
On Aug 8, 2012, at 7:27 PM, Lawrence Williams <lnawms@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Even though I'm in B.C. I still have (limited) access to a computer when I
can find one.
>
> With all the back-dated digests I see, a lot is happening BUT...
>
> even though it's nice to send well wishes to Kevin and say how groovy Douw
e's reincarnation is along with various other topics, please remember that s
omeone searching the archives in 5-10 years won't even know who they are. In
other words....
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
> more of your forgettable "postcards" and save the archive space for the th
ings that will be helpful in the future.
>
> Larry "Top Curmudgeon" Williams
> not flying (bad wx) in Pemberton, B.C.
>
> do not archive
>
>
==========================
=========
==========================
=========
==========================
=========
==========================
=========
>
Message 63
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Another Piet is Born - the rest of the story... |
Excellent news! Wow! What a great day with 2 new Piets in the air (or almo
st there...).
Ya done good, Gary! Congrats! Now, go fly!
--
Dan Yocum
yocum137@gmail.com
On Aug 8, 2012, at 5:08 PM, "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
> It seems that Mr. Dilbeck has seen two examples of hose clamp failure, bot
h of which were caught in time. One was what appeared to be a compressing of
the rubber, which led to the clamp loosening, then rotating and rubbing on a
fuel line. The other was a fuel line hose clamp that had an internal failur
e of some sort (he guessed it was over-tightened), and was doing no clamping
at all....there was evidence of fuel leakage. I'm not sure how a safety wir
e would have helped in either case. He confessed that his preference for se
eing the safety wire was merely personal, and could only make recommendation
s.
>
> Below, is a picture of my tail wheel, after he changed the cotter pin:
>
> <image005.jpg> <image006.jpg>
>
> Not too clear, but he has taken the part of the pin that is normally bent o
ver the bolt, and curled it around to tuck into a notch on the nut. He recom
mends this in areas where something may catch on the cotter pin, causing it t
o lose its position, catch a =98tag-along=99 or cause bodily har
m, such as around our feet and legs in the cockpit.
>
> He was a pleasant, concerned and helpful individual, fully prepared with p
aperwork, and the whole thing went well. He voluntarily assigned me a 50 mil
e radius, only because he feels 25 isn=99t enough, as a pilot might te
nd to get bored with the =98race track=99.
>
> Gary Boothe
> NX308MB
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-li
st-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of gboothe5@comcast.net
> Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 2:15 PM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Another Piet is Born
>
>
> NX308MB just became an airplane! The inspection was quite pleasant...I'll f
ill you in on those pesky hose clamp safeties when I get back to my computer
.
>
> Mike Groah - Meet me at 1,000' south of Lodi...and, may the best man win!
>
> Gary from Cool
> Do not Archive
>
> Sent on the Sprint=C2=AE Now Network from my BlackBerry=C2=AE
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
>
> http://forums.matronics.com
>
> http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>
>
>
Message 64
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Another Piet is Born |
Whaaaa? 3 new Piets? How did I miss the Groah's announcement??
Jeez, I'm tired of issuing congrats! ;-)
Oh well, Congrats!
--
Dan Yocum
yocum137@gmail.com
On Aug 8, 2012, at 5:55 PM, Michael Groah <dskogrover@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Awesome Gary!!!!!
> Congrats. And I accept your challenge. The race to forty hours is on! I'm ahead
at 0.9 hrs!
>
> Mike Groah
> Do not archive
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Aug 8, 2012, at 2:14 PM, gboothe5@comcast.net wrote:
>
>>
>> NX308MB just became an airplane! The inspection was quite pleasant...I'll fill
you in on those pesky hose clamp safeties when I get back to my computer.
>>
>> Mike Groah - Meet me at 1,000' south of Lodi...and, may the best man win!
>>
>> Gary from Cool
>> Do not Archive
>>
>> Sent on the Sprint Now Network from my BlackBerry
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
Message 65
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: T.C. is watching |
But Dan, does it at least place them in a segregated file so that you don't have
to dig through them when looking for info on wood or brakes?
Blue Skies,
Steve "Do Not Archive" D
----- Original Message -----
From: Dan Yocum <yocum137@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: T.C. is watching
> Ok,
>
> Enough's enough. T.C. - as much as you think the magical phrase "do
> not archive" works, let me tell you, it doesn't. I talked it over
> with Mr. Dralle and the "do not archive" is a vestige of the *old*
> forum system. Go ahead and test it - do this google search;
>
> site:matronics.com pietenpol "do not archive"
>
> Ta-da! They're all there! I can just hear you say, "Rats!"
>
> So, what should we focus your attention on, instead? I dunno...
>
> Best!
> Dan
>
> Do not archive
>
>
> --
> Dan Yocum
> yocum137@gmail.com
>
> On Aug 8, 2012, at 7:27 PM, Lawrence Williams < wrote:
>
> > Even though I'm in B.C. I still have (limited) access to a computer when I
can find one.
> >
> > With all the back-dated digests I see, a lot is happening BUT...
> >
> > even though it's nice to send well wishes to Kevin and say how groovy Douwe's
reincarnation is along with various other topics, please remember that someone
searching the archives in 5-10 years won't even know who they are. In other
words....
> >
> > DO NOT ARCHIVE
> >
> > more of your forgettable "postcards" and save the archive space for the things
that will be helpful in the future.
> >
> > Larry "Top Curmudgeon" Williams
> > not flying (bad wx) in Pemberton, B.C.
> >
> > do not archive
> >
> >
> ===================================
> ===================================
> ===================================
> ===================================
> >
Message 66
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: T.C. is watching |
Good. I have seen that phrase on so many useful technical messages over
the years that I am glad to see it gone. It makes it really hard to
search the archives when great answers are missing.
Dave
On 8/8/2012 10:29 PM, Dan Yocum wrote:
> Ok,
>
> Enough's enough. T.C. - as much as you think the magical phrase "do
> not archive" works, let me tell you, it doesn't. I talked it over
> with Mr. Dralle and the "do not archive" is a vestige of the *old*
> forum system. Go ahead and test it - do this google search;
>
> site:matronics.com pietenpol "do not archive"
>
> Ta-da! They're all there! I can just hear you say, "Rats!"
>
> So, what should we focus your attention on, instead? I dunno...
>
> Best!
> Dan
>
> Do not archive
>
>
Message 67
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Good information on turning back to the runway |
Gentlemen, and Kevin, You might be interested to read some of the articles by Dr
Dave Rogers on turnback after Engine failure. He discusses in depth the options.
They are very scholarly articles and some have complex math, but he does
a good job of explaining thing to me and I am a true luddite.
Dr. Rogers is a Beechcraft Bonanza owner and just retired as the Professor of Aeronautical
Engineering at The Naval Academy (Annapolis). He is a really nice
guy to boot.
He was the chief pilot for the Naval Academy's flight test engineering course.
Here is a link to his technical flying site.
http://www.nar-associates.com/technical-flying/technical-flying.html
Blue Skies
Steve D
Message 68
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Some disassembly required |
This evening I began the disassembly process to finish up some
varnishing and to begin fabric covering. The wings are now off; tail
feathers to come off in the next few days. Here is how my Piet looked
midday.
Cheers, Ken
Do Not Archive
Message 69
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: T.C. is watching |
I don't feel so bad now. [Laughing]
--------
Mark Chouinard
Wings, Center Section and Empannage and Fuse framed up - Working on Landing Gear
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=380485#380485
Message 70
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: T.C. is watching |
yocum137(at)gmail.com wrote:
> Go ahead and test it - do this google search;
>
>
> site:matronics.com pietenpol "do not archive"
>
>
> Ta-da! They're all there!
>
> Best!
> Dan
>
>
> Do not archive
>
>
>
> -- Dan Yocum
> yocum137@gmail.com (yocum137@gmail.com)
>
>
CURSES!! I'm foiled again...
;-)
--------
Brett Phillips
PLEASE DO NOT ARCHIVE!
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=380486#380486
Message 71
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: T.C. is watching |
steven.d.dortch(at)us.arm wrote:
> But Dan, does it at least place them in a segregated file so that you don't have
to dig through them when looking for info on wood or brakes?
>
> Blue Skies,
> Steve "Do Not Archive" D
>
> ---
Ah, grasshopper, but that is how to search to find the _GOOD_ answers! :-o
--------
Brett Phillips
PLEASE DO NOT ARCHIVE!
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=380487#380487
Message 72
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Good information on turning back to the runway |
You'll do well to attempt to forgive my ignorance=85..but please remind
me why I have to read scholarly articles with complex math written by a
doctor with a Bonanza=85..that will essentially say "don't do it"? It
kinda feels like swatting a fly with a sledgehammer=85.
Ryan Mueller
rmueller23@gmail.com
On Aug 8, 2012, at 10:04 PM, "Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB"
<steven.d.dortch@us.army.mil> wrote:
<steven.d.dortch@us.army.mil>
>
> Gentlemen, and Kevin, You might be interested to read some of the
articles by Dr Dave Rogers on turnback after Engine failure. He
discusses in depth the options. They are very scholarly articles and
some have complex math, but he does a good job of explaining thing to me
and I am a true luddite.
>
> Dr. Rogers is a Beechcraft Bonanza owner and just retired as the
Professor of Aeronautical Engineering at The Naval Academy (Annapolis).
He is a really nice guy to boot.
>
> He was the chief pilot for the Naval Academy's flight test engineering
course.
> Here is a link to his technical flying site.
>
> http://www.nar-associates.com/technical-flying/technical-flying.html
>
> Blue Skies
> Steve D
>
>
>
>
Other Matronics Email List Services
These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.
-- Please support this service by making your Contribution today! --
|