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1. 03:12 AM - Re: Some disassembly required (Jack)
2. 03:29 AM - Re: "RE-PIET" FLEW!!!!!!!!!!!! (Jack Phillips)
3. 03:35 AM - Re: Another Piet is Born (Jack Phillips)
4. 03:37 AM - Re: Another Piet is Born - the rest of the story... (Jack Phillips)
5. 03:42 AM - Re: Some disassembly required (Jack Phillips)
6. 03:49 AM - Re: T.C. is watching (helspersew@aol.com)
7. 03:53 AM - Re: Some disassembly required (helspersew@aol.com)
8. 03:58 AM - Flex fuel line security (helspersew@aol.com)
9. 03:59 AM - Re: Another Piet is Born - the rest of the story... (Gary Boothe)
10. 04:20 AM - Re: Another Piet is Born (Gary Boothe)
11. 04:20 AM - Re: Flex fuel line security (Gary Boothe)
12. 04:22 AM - Re: Some disassembly required (Gary Boothe)
13. 04:25 AM - Re: Douwe's LIGHT tail (Ben Charvet)
14. 05:02 AM - Re: Another Piet is Born (AircamperN11MS)
15. 05:11 AM - Re: Good information on turning back to the runway (airlion)
16. 05:51 AM - Re: Good information on turning back to the runway (Ryan Mueller)
17. 06:14 AM - Re: Flex fuel line security (Jack Phillips)
18. 06:40 AM - Re: "RE-PIET" FLEW!!!!!!!!!!!! (Amsafetyc)
19. 06:42 AM - Re: Another Piet is Born - the rest of the story... (Gene Rambo)
20. 07:02 AM - Re: Good information on turning back to the runway (Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB)
21. 07:15 AM - Re: RE-PIET (woodflier@aol.com)
22. 07:22 AM - Rubber hose connections in Fuel line... (Dave Abramson)
23. 07:23 AM - Congrats, Gary! (woodflier@aol.com)
24. 07:40 AM - Re: Flex fuel line security (helspersew@aol.com)
25. 07:43 AM - Re: "RE-PIET" FLEW!!!!!!!!!!!! (aerocarjake)
26. 08:18 AM - Re: Good information on turning back to the runway (Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB)
27. 08:59 AM - Re: Another Piet is Born (Jim Boyer)
28. 09:02 AM - Re: Another Piet is Born - the rest of the story... (Jim Boyer)
29. 09:05 AM - Re: Another Piet is Born (Jim Boyer)
30. 09:43 AM - Re: RE-PIET (Dan Yocum)
31. 09:43 AM - Re: Another Piet is Born (V Groah)
32. 10:05 AM - Re: RE-PIET (Dave Abramson)
33. 10:06 AM - Re: stall characteristics (C N Campbell)
34. 10:45 AM - Re: Good information on turning back to the runway (airlion)
35. 10:53 AM - "RE-PIET's" first flight video on You Tube! (Douwe Blumberg)
36. 11:23 AM - Re: "RE-PIET's" first flight video on You Tube! (Dan Yocum)
37. 11:27 AM - Re: Another Piet is Born (Jim Boyer)
38. 12:23 PM - Re: Another Piet is Born (John Francis)
39. 06:43 PM - Re: Another Piet is Born (Mark Roberts)
40. 07:27 PM - Re: Re: Another Piet is Born (gboothe5@comcast.net)
41. 07:41 PM - Re: Good information on turning back to the runway (Mark Roberts)
42. 09:05 PM - What carburetor should I take? (tkreiner)
43. 09:20 PM - Re: What carburetor should I take? (Ken Bickers)
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| Subject: | Some disassembly required |
Very nice Ken!
Jack Textor
DSM
NX1929T
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ken Bickers
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 11:18 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Some disassembly required
This evening I began the disassembly process to finish up some
varnishing and to begin fabric covering. The wings are now off; tail
feathers to come off in the next few days. Here is how my Piet looked
midday.
Cheers, Ken
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| Subject: | "RE-PIET" FLEW!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Fantatstic, Douwe!
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Douwe
Blumberg
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 2:17 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: "RE-PIET" FLEW!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well, after ten years of work and one MAJOR setback and rebuild (hence the
name RE-PIET) NX799B successfully flew this morning!
I am in the process of posting the video on youtube and will send the link
as soon as I can get my kid to do it for me.
My test pilot who is also my instructor flies the Ford trimotor for the EAA,
is an acrobatic instructor and has tons of big biplane time. He also weighs
225lbs.
While my empty weight (TOW for those overseas) was heavy at 816 with oil,
her CG was very good. She can carry a 230 pounder with 12 gallons before we
get to 20", and can carry a 200 pounder with 20 gallons before we hit our
rear CG. The weight is all forward and the heaviness is attributable to the
use of douglas fir, C-90 with starter, generator and battery. A 20 gal wing
tank, mufflers, sidepipes and heavy landing gear. However, I made the tail
VERY light and it paid off. I'm using a Cloud Car prop and the combo of the
C-90 and that prop seems to really help her climb.
Here's the scoop.
Tail was up before 2,000rpm, she evidently "levitated" off the pavement
after maybe a 100ft roll and climbed VERY well. I have it on video which
I'm posting. We don't know what she climbed at but from his experience he
guessed 6-700fpm. All I know is we were two thirds down a 4,000 runway, he
took off from the far end and before he was halfway to us was at 200 ft and
turning away from the airport. The climb was deceptively steep, kind of
like a big biplane. Just kind of goes up like an elevator, but very slowly.
He says she flies hands off and the rigging doesn't need to be changed.
Stalls very straight and kind of mushes. Did two very tight circles, he
said about 2.5 g's and she showed no tendency to do anything bad. Got her
up to about 100 in a shallow dive and the wings didn't come off. She landed
easily on the pavement and tracked straight and true. Smoke system worked
too, though I got oil on my tail.
I have to modify the brake cables as the inner housing pulled through the
plastic housing during run up, so I have to find some stouter cable ends.
My instructor comes back on the 27th, at which time we'll fly the champ a
bit and then off I go!!
GOD IS GOOD.
Douwe
Ps. Keving, I can't believe that picture of you!
PSS. DAN, I was hoping to fly formation with you next year!!
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| Subject: | Another Piet is Born |
Way to go, Gary! When will the first flight be?
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
gboothe5@comcast.net
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 5:15 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Another Piet is Born
NX308MB just became an airplane! The inspection was quite pleasant...I'll
fill you in on those pesky hose clamp safeties when I get back to my
computer.
Mike Groah - Meet me at 1,000' south of Lodi...and, may the best man win!
Gary from Cool
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| Subject: | Another Piet is Born - the rest of the story... |
Who uses hose clamps on a fuel line?
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Boothe
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 6:09 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Another Piet is Born - the rest of the story...
It seems that Mr. Dilbeck has seen two examples of hose clamp failure, both
of which were caught in time. One was what appeared to be a compressing of
the rubber, which led to the clamp loosening, then rotating and rubbing on a
fuel line. The other was a fuel line hose clamp that had an internal failure
of some sort (he guessed it was over-tightened), and was doing no clamping
at all....there was evidence of fuel leakage. I'm not sure how a safety wire
would have helped in either case. He confessed that his preference for
seeing the safety wire was merely personal, and could only make
recommendations.
Below, is a picture of my tail wheel, after he changed the cotter pin:
Not too clear, but he has taken the part of the pin that is normally bent
over the bolt, and curled it around to tuck into a notch on the nut. He
recommends this in areas where something may catch on the cotter pin,
causing it to lose its position, catch a 'tag-along' or cause bodily harm,
such as around our feet and legs in the cockpit.
He was a pleasant, concerned and helpful individual, fully prepared with
paperwork, and the whole thing went well. He voluntarily assigned me a 50
mile radius, only because he feels 25 isn't enough, as a pilot might tend to
get bored with the 'race track'.
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
gboothe5@comcast.net
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 2:15 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Another Piet is Born
gboothe5@comcast.net
NX308MB just became an airplane! The inspection was quite pleasant...I'll
fill you in on those pesky hose clamp safeties when I get back to my
computer.
Mike Groah - Meet me at 1,000' south of Lodi...and, may the best man win!
Gary from Cool
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| Subject: | Some disassembly required |
Looks very nice, Ken. Sort of a shame to cover it, isn't it?
Jack PhillipsMX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ken Bickers
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 12:18 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Some disassembly required
This evening I began the disassembly process to finish up some
varnishing and to begin fabric covering. The wings are now off; tail
feathers to come off in the next few days. Here is how my Piet looked
midday.
Cheers, Ken
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| Subject: | Re: T.C. is watching |
Dan,
Ya just took Larry's purpose for living away. Just stab him in the heart wh
y don't you. Don't you care? Wow. Heartless, so nonchalant. I sure hope he
can recover from this.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
I would type do not archive but it does no good.
-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Yocum <yocum137@gmail.com>
Sent: Wed, Aug 8, 2012 9:30 pm
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: T.C. is watching
Ok,
Enough's enough. T.C. - as much as you think the magical phrase "do not arc
hive" works, let me tell you, it doesn't. I talked it over with Mr. Dralle
and the "do not archive" is a vestige of the *old* forum system. Go ahead
and test it - do this google search;
site:matronics.com pietenpol "do not archive"
Ta-da! They're all there! I can just hear you say, "Rats!"
So, what should we focus your attention on, instead? I dunno...
Best!
Dan
Do not archive
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Dan Yocum
yocum137@gmail.com
On Aug 8, 2012, at 7:27 PM, Lawrence Williams <lnawms@yahoo.com> wrote:
Even though I'm in B.C. I still have (limited) access to a computer when I
can find one.
With all the back-dated digests I see, a lot is happening BUT...
even though it's nice to send well wishes to Kevin and say how groovy Douwe
's reincarnation is along with various other topics, please remember that s
omeone searching the archives in 5-10 years won't even know who they are. I
n other words....
DO NOT ARCHIVE
more of your forgettable "postcards" and save the archive space for the thi
ngs that will be helpful in the future.
Larry "Top Curmudgeon" Williams
not flying (bad wx) in Pemberton, B.C.
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| Subject: | Re: Some disassembly required |
Wow these things are coming off the assembly line really fast now! Just lik
e RV's- one per day! Great milestone Ken!!
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
do not archive- for TC and old times sake
-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Bickers <bickers.ken@gmail.com>
Sent: Wed, Aug 8, 2012 11:19 pm
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Some disassembly required
This evening I began the disassembly process to finish up some
varnishing and to begin fabric covering. The wings are now off; tail
feathers to come off in the next few days. Here is how my Piet looked
midday.
Cheers, Ken
Do Not Archive
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| Subject: | Flex fuel line security |
What is the proper method? I have had hose clamps on my Aeronca for many ye
ars w/no problems.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
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| Subject: | Another Piet is Born - the rest of the story... |
It was a primer line, so under occasional pressure. I know, still not a good
idea.
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
Phillips
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 3:37 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Another Piet is Born - the rest of the story...
Who uses hose clamps on a fuel line?
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Boothe
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 6:09 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Another Piet is Born - the rest of the story...
It seems that Mr. Dilbeck has seen two examples of hose clamp failure, both
of which were caught in time. One was what appeared to be a compressing of
the rubber, which led to the clamp loosening, then rotating and rubbing on a
fuel line. The other was a fuel line hose clamp that had an internal failure
of some sort (he guessed it was over-tightened), and was doing no clamping
at all....there was evidence of fuel leakage. I'm not sure how a safety wire
would have helped in either case. He confessed that his preference for
seeing the safety wire was merely personal, and could only make
recommendations.
Below, is a picture of my tail wheel, after he changed the cotter pin:
Not too clear, but he has taken the part of the pin that is normally bent
over the bolt, and curled it around to tuck into a notch on the nut. He
recommends this in areas where something may catch on the cotter pin,
causing it to lose its position, catch a 'tag-along' or cause bodily harm,
such as around our feet and legs in the cockpit.
He was a pleasant, concerned and helpful individual, fully prepared with
paperwork, and the whole thing went well. He voluntarily assigned me a 50
mile radius, only because he feels 25 isn't enough, as a pilot might tend to
get bored with the 'race track'.
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
gboothe5@comcast.net
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 2:15 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Another Piet is Born
gboothe5@comcast.net
NX308MB just became an airplane! The inspection was quite pleasant...I'll
fill you in on those pesky hose clamp safeties when I get back to my
computer.
Mike Groah - Meet me at 1,000' south of Lodi...and, may the best man win!
Gary from Cool
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| Subject: | Another Piet is Born |
In a few weeks. Need a BFR first.
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
Phillips
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 3:34 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Another Piet is Born
--> <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
Way to go, Gary! When will the first flight be?
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
gboothe5@comcast.net
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 5:15 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Another Piet is Born
NX308MB just became an airplane! The inspection was quite pleasant...I'll
fill you in on those pesky hose clamp safeties when I get back to my
computer.
Mike Groah - Meet me at 1,000' south of Lodi...and, may the best man win!
Gary from Cool
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| Subject: | Flex fuel line security |
Probably something like this, but don't change what aint broke:
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
helspersew@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 3:58 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Flex fuel line security
What is the proper method? I have had hose clamps on my Aeronca for many
years w/no problems.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
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| Subject: | Some disassembly required |
Beautiful work, Ken!
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ken Bickers
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 9:18 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Some disassembly required
This evening I began the disassembly process to finish up some varnishing
and to begin fabric covering. The wings are now off; tail feathers to come
off in the next few days. Here is how my Piet looked midday.
Cheers, Ken
Do Not Archive
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| Subject: | Re: Douwe's LIGHT tail |
Mine is all Douglas Fir, long fuselage, 3 piece wing powered by Cont
A-65 with no starter. It weighed 692 with oil. I did have to move the
wing back 4 inches to get W/B in spec and I only weigh 170.
Ben
On 8/8/2012 7:27 PM, nightmare wrote:
>
> Douwe, Im also building with doug fir, would love to hear any weight savings
tips, especially the tail. thanks; Paul
>
> --------
> Paul Donahue
> Started 8-3-12
> do not archive
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=380461#380461
>
>
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Ben Charvet, PharmD
Staff Pharmacist
Parrish Medical center
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| Subject: | Re: Another Piet is Born |
Congratulations Gary,
You have hit quit a milestone.
--------
Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=380505#380505
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| Subject: | Re: Good information on turning back to the runway |
Well said Ryan. First you have to know how to read and comprehend. Gardiner
=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Ryan Mueller <opera
tionaxel@gmail.com>=0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Thu, August
9, 2012 1:45:43 AM=0ASubject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Good information on turni
ng back to the runway=0A=0AYou'll do well to attempt to forgive my ignoranc
e..but please remind me why I =0Ahave to read scholarly articles w
ith complex math written by a doctor with a =0ABonanza..that will
essentially say "don't do it"? It kinda feels like swatting =0Aa fly with a
sledgehammer.=0A=0A=0ARyan Mueller=0Armueller23@gmail.com=0A=0A
=0A=0A=0AOn Aug 8, 2012, at 10:04 PM, "Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB" =0A<
steven.d.dortch@us.army.mil> wrote:=0A=0A--> Pietenpol-List message posted
by: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB" =0A<steven.d.dortch@us.army.mil>=0A>
=0A>Gentlemen, and Kevin, You might be interested to read some of the artic
les by Dr =0A>Dave Rogers on turnback after Engine failure. He discusses in
depth the options. =0A>They are very scholarly articles and some have comp
lex math, but he does a good =0A>job of explaining thing to me and I am a t
rue luddite. =0A>=0A>=0A>Dr. Rogers is a Beechcraft Bonanza owner and just
retired as the Professor of =0A>Aeronautical Engineering at The Naval Acade
my (Annapolis). He is a really nice =0A>guy to boot. =0A>=0A>=0A>He was the
chief pilot for the Naval Academy's flight test engineering course.=0A>Her
e is a link to =C2-his technical flying site. =0A>=0A>http://www.nar-asso
ciates.com/technical-flying/technical-flying.html=0A>=0A>Blue Skies=0A>Stev
e =C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-- The =C2-=C2--
-> =C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-
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| Subject: | Re: Good information on turning back to the runway |
Well sir, I was a grunt, so I make no guarantees that I can do either.
Snarky and insulting I specialize in, however.
Since we have you, what's the status of your bird?
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 9, 2012, at 7:12 AM, airlion <airlion@bellsouth.net> wrote:
Well said Ryan. First you have to know how to read and comprehend. Gardiner
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*From:* Ryan Mueller <operationaxel@gmail.com>
*To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com
*Sent:* Thu, August 9, 2012 1:45:43 AM
*Subject:* Re: Pietenpol-List: Good information on turning back to the
runway
You'll do well to attempt to forgive my ignorance=85..but please remind me
why I have to read scholarly articles with complex math written by a doctor
with a Bonanza=85..that will essentially say "don't do it"? It kinda feels
like swatting a fly with a sledgehammer=85.
Ryan Mueller
rmueller23@gmail.com
On Aug 8, 2012, at 10:04 PM, "Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB" <
steven.d.dortch@us.army.mil> wrote:
steven.d.dortch@us.army.mil>
Gentlemen, and Kevin, You might be interested to read some of the articles
by Dr Dave Rogers on turnback after Engine failure. He discusses in depth
the options. They are very scholarly articles and some have complex math,
but he does a good job of explaining thing to me and I am a true luddite.
Dr. Rogers is a Beechcraft Bonanza owner and just retired as the Professor
of Aeronautical Engineering at The Naval Academy (Annapolis). He is a
really nice guy to boot.
He was the chief pilot for the Naval Academy's flight test engineering
course.
Here is a link to his technical flying site.
http://www.nar-associates.com/technical-flying/technical-flying.html
Blue Skies
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| Subject: | Flex fuel line security |
I dunno - I've always used hoses with aeroquip fittings screwed to AN
fittings. I do have hose clamps on the fuel line on my lawnmower.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain lake, Virginia
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
helspersew@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 6:58 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Flex fuel line security
What is the proper method? I have had hose clamps on my Aeronca for many
years w/no problems.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
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| Subject: | Re: "RE-PIET" FLEW!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Nice job getting her back up and flying again you've come far since last I s
aw her a shadow of her new self. Congrats on RePiet I wish you great success
in all her flights may she fly as good as she looks
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 8, 2012, at 2:16 PM, "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg@earthlink.net> w
rote:
> Well, after ten years of work and one MAJOR setback and rebuild (hence the
name RE-PIET) NX799B successfully flew this morning!
>
> I am in the process of posting the video on youtube and will send the link
as soon as I can get my kid to do it for me
>
> My test pilot who is also my instructor flies the Ford trimotor for the EA
A, is an acrobatic instructor and has tons of big biplane time. He also wei
ghs 225lbs.
>
> While my empty weight (TOW for those overseas) was heavy at 816 with oil, h
er CG was very good. She can carry a 230 pounder with 12 gallons before we g
et to 20=9D, and can carry a 200 pounder with 20 gallons before we hit
our rear CG. The weight is all forward and the heaviness is attributable t
o the use of douglas fir, C-90 with starter, generator and battery. A 20 ga
l wing tank, mufflers, sidepipes and heavy landing gear. However, I made th
e tail VERY light and it paid off. I=99m using a Cloud Car prop and t
he combo of the C-90 and that prop seems to really help her climb.
>
> Here=99s the scoop.
>
> Tail was up before 2,000rpm, she evidently =9Clevitated=9D off
the pavement after maybe a 100ft roll and climbed VERY well. I have it on v
ideo which I=99m posting. We don=99t know what she climbed at b
ut from his experience he guessed 6-700fpm. All I know is we were two third
s down a 4,000 runway, he took off from the far end and before he was halfwa
y to us was at 200 ft and turning away from the airport. The climb was dece
ptively steep, kind of like a big biplane. Just kind of goes up like an ele
vator, but very slowly.
>
> He says she flies hands off and the rigging doesn=99t need to be cha
nged. Stalls very straight and kind of mushes. Did two very tight circles,
he said about 2.5 g=99s and she showed no tendency to do anything bad
. Got her up to about 100 in a shallow dive and the wings didn=99t co
me off. She landed easily on the pavement and tracked straight and true. S
moke system worked too, though I got oil on my tail.
>
> I have to modify the brake cables as the inner housing pulled through the p
lastic housing during run up, so I have to find some stouter cable ends. My
instructor comes back on the 27th, at which time we=99ll fly the cham
p a bit and then off I go!!
>
> GOD IS GOOD
>
> Douwe
>
> Ps. Keving, I can=99t believe that picture of you!
>
> PSS. DAN, I was hoping to fly formation with you next year!!
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Another Piet is Born - the rest of the story... |
Me on every airplane I own with rubber connectors between fuel lines, every s
ingle airplane with bladder tanks, most Cubs, Champs, Taylorcraft, etc to na
me a short list...
Gene
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On Aug 9, 2012, at 6:37 AM, "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> Who uses hose clamps on a fuel line?
>
> Jack Phillips
> NX899JP
> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
>
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-li
st-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Boothe
> Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 6:09 PM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Another Piet is Born - the rest of the story.
..
>
> It seems that Mr. Dilbeck has seen two examples of hose clamp failure, bot
h of which were caught in time. One was what appeared to be a compressing of
the rubber, which led to the clamp loosening, then rotating and rubbing on a
fuel line. The other was a fuel line hose clamp that had an internal failur
e of some sort (he guessed it was over-tightened), and was doing no clamping
at all....there was evidence of fuel leakage. I'm not sure how a safety wir
e would have helped in either case. He confessed that his preference for se
eing the safety wire was merely personal, and could only make recommendation
s.
>
> Below, is a picture of my tail wheel, after he changed the cotter pin:
>
> <image001.jpg> <image002.jpg>
>
> Not too clear, but he has taken the part of the pin that is normally bent o
ver the bolt, and curled it around to tuck into a notch on the nut. He recom
mends this in areas where something may catch on the cotter pin, causing it t
o lose its position, catch a =98tag-along=99 or cause bodily har
m, such as around our feet and legs in the cockpit.
>
> He was a pleasant, concerned and helpful individual, fully prepared with p
aperwork, and the whole thing went well. He voluntarily assigned me a 50 mil
e radius, only because he feels 25 isn=99t enough, as a pilot might te
nd to get bored with the =98race track=99.
>
> Gary Boothe
> NX308MB
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-li
st-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of gboothe5@comcast.net
> Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 2:15 PM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Another Piet is Born
>
>
> NX308MB just became an airplane! The inspection was quite pleasant...I'll f
ill you in on those pesky hose clamp safeties when I get back to my computer
.
>
> Mike Groah - Meet me at 1,000' south of Lodi...and, may the best man win!
>
> Gary from Cool
> Do not Archive
>
> Sent on the Sprint=C2=AE Now Network from my BlackBerry=C2=AE
>
>
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
>
>
>
> http://forums.matronics.com
>
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Good information on turning back to the runway |
Ryan, I am currently flying the dickens out of my buddy's 1947 Aeronca Champ. It
is a great classic, 65 roaring HP and hand prop only. Last flight we did downwind
landings and "I didn't like it so much!" I am getting ready to get my tail
dragger endorsement signed off by Vern Foster, a 95 year old CFI.
My 1947 Bonanza is currently in maintenance, My ammeter is showing nothing, Absolutely
no movement of the needle. We swapped Generators (had one one the shelf)
and will look at the meter itself next, The Voltage regulator is last to be
checked, it is a pain, mounted on the firewall way up under the glareshield.
Regarding Dr Dave's articles, the same principles apply to Bonanzas, Piets or Aeronca
Champs (what I have flown the most lately.) So the same excercises he discusses
can be done in any plane.
I am not only a grunt but I went to public schools and state universties. My eyes
tend to glaze over when I look at this level of math. Indeed, I don't do math
in public. Having read several of his articles I tend to scan the math and
go to his conclusions.
Dr. Rogers first figures out the aerodynamics of what is being considered using
this high level aeronautical math. Then he climbs in his plane and goes out and
checks to see if the data matches his real world experience. Then he goes back
and polishes his data and his articles.
For us Bonanza pilots, he came up with a series of turning excercises to try in
the air. Using these I was able to figure out that I would not try to turn back
180 degrees, until I was at almost 1000 feet (fully loaded, hot day rounded
up). Even then I was not assured of getting back to the runway, but simply lined
up with the runway and in landing attitude.
Basically, Go to a safe altitude, Establish a takeoff climb, Chop the throttle
and see how much altitude it takes to turn 180 and get set up for landing back
on the takeoff runway. What speeds work best?, What about flatter turns vs knifeedge?
What about a 90 degree turn to a safe option, what turn works best
and how much altitude is lost? That is the gist of his articles. He explans why
certain proceedures work and why others don't.
Blue Skies,
Steve D
----- Original Message -----
From: Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Good information on turning back to the runway
> Well sir, I was a grunt, so I make no guarantees that I can do either.
> Snarky and insulting I specialize in, however.
>
> Since we have you, what's the status of your bird?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 9, 2012, at 7:12 AM, airlion < wrote:
>
> Well said Ryan. First you have to know how to read and comprehend. Gardiner
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Ryan Mueller <
> *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> *Sent:* Thu, August 9, 2012 1:45:43 AM
> *Subject:* Re: Pietenpol-List: Good information on turning back to the
> runway
>
> You'll do well to attempt to forgive my ignorance..but please remind me
> why I have to read scholarly articles with complex math written by a doctor
> with a Bonanza..that will essentially say "don't do it"? It kinda feels
> like swatting a fly with a sledgehammer.
>
> Ryan Mueller
> rmueller23@gmail.com
>
>
>
>
> On Aug 8, 2012, at 10:04 PM, "Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB" <steven.d.dortch@us.army.mil>
wrote:
>
>
> Gentlemen, and Kevin, You might be interested to read some of the articles
> by Dr Dave Rogers on turnback after Engine failure. He discusses in depth
> the options. They are very scholarly articles and some have complex math,
> but he does a good job of explaining thing to me and I am a true luddite.
>
> Dr. Rogers is a Beechcraft Bonanza owner and just retired as the Professor
> of Aeronautical Engineering at The Naval Academy (Annapolis). He is a
> really nice guy to boot.
>
> He was the chief pilot for the Naval Academy's flight test engineering
> course.
> Here is a link to his technical flying site.
>
> http://www.nar-associates.com/technical-flying/technical-flying.html
>
> Blue Skies
> Steve - The --> &n=======================
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Douwe, congratulations! I want to see the video when you get it up. Hope yo
u plan on bringing it to Brodhead next year. I'd love a ride.
Matt Paxton
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| Subject: | Rubber hose connections in Fuel line... |
Back in Lindbergh's day..... he had many fuel lines break / crack in his
barn storming days. Believe he used copper lines that would
work (vibrate) harden, and crack. He MADE SURE on the Sprit of St. Louis
that there were rubber hose connections in different areas
of the hard line to absorb the vibration.
We now have better materials to make our fuel systems out of. The picture
below is a nice set up!
No worries there!!!!
Dave
N140MW
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Gary Boothe
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 4:18 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Flex fuel line security
Probably something like this, but don't change what aint broke:
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
helspersew@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 3:58 AM
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Flex fuel line security
What is the proper method? I have had hose clamps on my Aeronca for many
years w/no problems.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-Listhttp://forums.matronics.c
omhttp://www.matronics.com/contribution
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Gary, great news! Now you have the real thrill of that first flight. Lookin
g forward to hearing how that goes.
Matt Paxton
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| Subject: | Re: Flex fuel line security |
I have flexible fuel bladders in the Aeronca. They have moulded-in nipples
at the outlets. I guess the hose clamps are the only practical thing that c
an be used there.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
-----Original Message-----
From: Jack Phillips <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Thu, Aug 9, 2012 8:14 am
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Flex fuel line security
I dunno =93 I=99ve always usedhoses with aeroquip fittings scre
wed to AN fittings. I do have hoseclamps on the fuel line on my lawnmower.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain lake, Virginia
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list
-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of helspersew@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 20126:58 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Flex fuelline security
What is the proper method? I have hadhose clamps on my Aeronca for many yea
rs w/no problems.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
http://forums.matronics.com
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| Subject: | Re: "RE-PIET" FLEW!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Wonderful job.... hope you have many re-piet performances......!!
--------
Jake Schultz - curator,
Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=380523#380523
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| Subject: | Re: Good information on turning back to the runway |
"but please remind me why I have to read"
Ryan, Who said you had to?
There will be a test! ;+}
Steve D
----- Original Message -----
From: Ryan Mueller <operationaxel@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Good information on turning back to the runway
> You'll do well to attempt to forgive my ignorance..scholarly articles with complex
math
> written by a doctor with a Bonanza..that will essentially say
> "don't do it"? It kinda feels like swatting a fly with a
> sledgehammer.
> Ryan Mueller
> rmueller23@gmail.com
>
>
>
>
> On Aug 8, 2012, at 10:04 PM, "Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB" < wrote:
>
> >
> > Gentlemen, and Kevin, You might be interested to read some of the articles
by Dr Dave Rogers on turnback after Engine failure. He discusses in depth the
options. They are very scholarly articles and some have complex math, but he does
a good job of explaining thing to me and I am a true luddite.
> >
> > Dr. Rogers is a Beechcraft Bonanza owner and just retired as the Professor
of Aeronautical Engineering at The Naval Academy (Annapolis). He is a really nice
guy to boot.
> >
> > He was the chief pilot for the Naval Academy's flight test engineering course.
> > Here is a link to his technical flying site.
> >
> > http://www.nar-associates.com/technical-flying/technical-flying.html
> >
> > Blue Skies
> > Steve D
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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| Subject: | Re: Another Piet is Born |
Hey Gary, congratulations on having a real airplane now. Can't wait to actually
see it in real life.
Have fun flying off the 40 hours and take it easy with Mike; don't want the two
of you arrested for airplane races over Lodi.
cheers,
Jim B.
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| Subject: | Re: Another Piet is Born - the rest of the story... |
Hi Gary,
Glad the inspection went so well. Talk about a spoiled Piet; carpeted hanger and
all!!!
Cheers,
Jim B.
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| Subject: | Re: Another Piet is Born |
Mike only 0.9 hours? I thought you would have at least 10 or 20 hours be now; its
been at least a week+ since first flight right?
Cheers,
Jim B.
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Jack has had problems with inadequate cooling when an eyebrow broke and
the "Red Piet" on westcoastpiet.com has had problems with no eyebrows,
too. Harry Fenton waxes poetic on the subject of Jack's problems on his
small continental page.
http://www.bowersflybaby.com/tech/fenton.htm#Stuck_Piston_Rings
The only airplane that can really get away with no eyebrows on the small
continentals is the Mooney Mite which has a cruise speed about 2x that
of the Piet.
My suggestion, unless you want to do top overhauls your engine more
often, is to bite the aesthetics bullet and make some eyebrows.
:-(
Dan
On 08/04/2012 07:19 AM, Douwe Blumberg wrote:
> THANK YOU ALL!!
>
>
>
> For your kind and encouraging words. Im truly not into kudos, but it
> is nice to put that final finishing touch on the project, stand back and
> then be able to share it with a bunch of guys (and gal??) who truly
> appreciate the work and love that went into it.
>
>
>
> To answer a few questions. Ill try to get some cockpit shots today.
> And Mike, I love the look of the engine without the eyebrows and my
> engine guy said I wouldnt need them and referred me to the old Rose
> Parakeet which didnt use them and had no problems. The brit Piet,
> GHOAL doesnt use them either and has no problems, though their weather
> is much cooler. So we decided to add a temp CHT gauge on a back
> cylinder and just monitor temps. Were feeling that enough air should
> enter the grill that it will form some pressure and shoot out around the
> cylinder bases.
>
>
>
> If the temps are higher than comfortable, my winter project will be to
> fabricate cooling eyebrows.
>
>
>
> Douwe
>
>
>
> Do not archive
>
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>
>
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| Subject: | Another Piet is Born |
Well Jim=2C it is your turn. If we are to have more Piets at the next west
coast meet we will have to get you going. If you would stop replacing kne
es and such you could be farther along. Seriously though it looks like you
have made a lot of progress and things are moving right along for you.
We are so happy and proud of Gary for his accomplishment. We are looking f
orward to one of those $100 hamburgers somewhere in the middle of the state
with the three planes together. That will be great!
We are running a bit behind on fly time due to a couple of minor adjustment
s and the fact that school has started for our pilot. The first month of s
chool is a whirlwind for the teachers. We hope to get some air time Septem
ber and November. Most of the fly time will have to be in the spring. Hop
e we can get the 40 done before june. Mike really wants to fly to Frazier
Lake in June.
Keep up the good work Jim. It looks like you will be the next to finish in
our west coast group. I hope some of the other guys are secretly charging
on and surprise us come June.
Vic
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From: boyerjrb@comcast.net
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Another Piet is Born
Mike only 0.9 hours? I thought you would have at least 10 or 20 hours be no
w=3B its been at least a week+ since first flight right?
Cheers=2C
Jim B.
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I agree.... without a pressure cowling you will need eyebrows to keep her
cool.....
Dave
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Dan Yocum
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 9:43 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: RE-PIET
Jack has had problems with inadequate cooling when an eyebrow broke and
the "Red Piet" on westcoastpiet.com has had problems with no eyebrows,
too. Harry Fenton waxes poetic on the subject of Jack's problems on his
small continental page.
http://www.bowersflybaby.com/tech/fenton.htm#Stuck_Piston_Rings
The only airplane that can really get away with no eyebrows on the small
continentals is the Mooney Mite which has a cruise speed about 2x that
of the Piet.
My suggestion, unless you want to do top overhauls your engine more
often, is to bite the aesthetics bullet and make some eyebrows.
:-(
Dan
On 08/04/2012 07:19 AM, Douwe Blumberg wrote:
> THANK YOU ALL!!
>
>
> For your kind and encouraging words. Im truly not into kudos, but it
> is nice to put that final finishing touch on the project, stand back and
> then be able to share it with a bunch of guys (and gal??) who truly
> appreciate the work and love that went into it.
>
>
> To answer a few questions. Ill try to get some cockpit shots today.
> And Mike, I love the look of the engine without the eyebrows and my
> engine guy said I wouldnt need them and referred me to the old Rose
> Parakeet which didnt use them and had no problems. The brit Piet,
> GHOAL doesnt use them either and has no problems, though their weather
> is much cooler. So we decided to add a temp CHT gauge on a back
> cylinder and just monitor temps. Were feeling that enough air should
> enter the grill that it will form some pressure and shoot out around the
> cylinder bases.
>
>
> If the temps are higher than comfortable, my winter project will be to
> fabricate cooling eyebrows.
>
>
> Douwe
>
>
> Do not archive
>
> *
>
>
> *
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| Subject: | Re: stall characteristics |
Greg, I was going to answer the question with, "Yeah, I have a stall
indicator -- God given -- the seat of my pants." You beat me to it! Chuck
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Greg Cardinal" <gcardinal@comcast.net>
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 6:52 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: stall characteristics
> <gcardinal@comcast.net>
>
> NX18235 stalls very gently. It just gives a gentle buffet and the nose
> mushes down. The Johnson airspeed indicator is bouncing around at some
> ridiculously low number during this.
> This is with the original Pietenpol airfoil.
> No stall warning system is installed other than "the seat of my pants."
>
> Greg Cardinal
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "giacummo" <mario.giacummo@gmail.com>
> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 12:54 PM
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: stall characteristics
>
>
>> <mario.giacummo@gmail.com>
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Before anything, its nice to see Kevin back again with a lesson in hand.
>> By the moment my wife don read this mails... thanks God, because if she
>> do it, my project finished in the fireplace [Wink]
>>
>> July was a hard month, and even august.. I did't work on the airplane,
>> but I read a lot abot a lot of things.. one of them was stall, how,
>> when,devices, etc, etc.
>>
>> What are the Pietenpol stall characteristics?.. do you use any warning
>> device?.. what kind of them?...
>>
>> If you can ilustrate me a little about this ..
>>
>> Thnak you.
>>
>> --------
>> Mario Giacummo
>> http://vgmk1.blogspot.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=380301#380301
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| Subject: | Re: Good information on turning back to the runway |
Almost ready to fly Ryan.I just put my empenage back together this AM. Next
week =0Athe wings go on. Hope to have it flying by the end of the month. G
ardiner=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Ryan Mueller
<rmueller23@gmail.com>=0ATo: "pietenpol-list@matronics.com" <pietenpol-lis
t@matronics.com>=0ASent: Thu, August 9, 2012 8:51:41 AM=0ASubject: Re: Piet
enpol-List: Good information on turning back to the runway=0A=0A=0AWell sir
, I was a grunt, so I make no guarantees that I can do either. Snarky =0Aan
d insulting I specialize in, however.=0A=0ASince we have you, what's the st
atus of your bird?=0A=0ASent from my iPhone=0A=0AOn Aug 9, 2012, at 7:12 AM
, airlion <airlion@bellsouth.net> wrote:=0A=0A=0AWell said Ryan. First you
have to know how to read and comprehend. Gardiner=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A_______
_________________________=0AFrom: Ryan Mueller <operationaxel@gmail.com>=0A
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com=0A>Sent: Thu, August 9, 2012 1:45:43 AM
=0A>Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Good information on turning back to the ru
nway=0A>=0A>You'll do well to attempt to forgive my ignorance..but
please remind me why I =0A>have to read scholarly articles with complex ma
th written by a doctor with a =0A>Bonanza..that will essentially s
ay "don't do it"? It kinda feels like swatting =0A>a fly with a sledgehamme
r.=0A>=0A>=0A>Ryan Mueller=0A>rmueller23@gmail.com=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>
=0A>=0A>On Aug 8, 2012, at 10:04 PM, "Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB" =0A><
steven.d.dortch@us.army.mil> wrote:=0A>=0A>--> Pietenpol-List message poste
d by: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB" =0A><steven.d.dortch@us.army.mil>=0A
>>=0A>>Gentlemen, and Kevin, You might be interested to read some of the ar
ticles by Dr =0A>>Dave Rogers on turnback after Engine failure. He discusse
s in depth the options. =0A>>They are very scholarly articles and some have
complex math, but he does a good =0A>>job of explaining thing to me and I
am a true luddite. =0A>>=0A>>=0A>>Dr. Rogers is a Beechcraft Bonanza owner
and just retired as the Professor of =0A>>Aeronautical Engineering at The N
aval Academy (Annapolis). He is a really nice =0A>>guy to boot. =0A>>=0A>>
=0A>>He was the chief pilot for the Naval Academy's flight test engineering
course.=0A>>Here is a link to =C2-his technical flying site. =0A>>=0A>>h
ttp://www.nar-associates.com/technical-flying/technical-flying.html=0A>>=0A
>>Blue Skies=0A>>Steve =C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2
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igator?P======================
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| Subject: | "RE-PIET's" first flight video on You Tube! |
Finally got the video up to Youtube. Click the link below or just search
for
Douwe's Re-Piet first flight
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgZ5PXdwvVQ
it was 84 degrees and the pilot was a 225 pounder.
Here she is taxiing back
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LP5eVGh4kh8
Re-Piet taxi
He never got low enough to get any cooler in-flight shots.
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| Subject: | Re: "RE-PIET's" first flight video on You Tube! |
Giddy UP! Very cool, Douwe.
So, when are you going to take her flying? Did you already mention that?
Dan
DO NOT ARCHIVE
;-)
On 08/09/2012 12:54 PM, Douwe Blumberg wrote:
> Finally got the video up to Youtube. Click the link below or just
> search for
>
>
>
> Douwes Re-Piet first flight
>
>
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgZ5PXdwvVQ
>
>
>
> it was 84 degrees and the pilot was a 225 pounder.
>
>
>
> Here she is taxiing back
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>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LP5eVGh4kh8
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>
>
> Re-Piet taxi
>
>
>
> He never got low enough to get any cooler in-flight shots.
>
> *
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| Subject: | Re: Another Piet is Born |
Hi Vic,
I am doing braided fuel and oil lines right now. Hope to have all four forward
of firewall done before Monday. Am still trying to figure out how to run carb
heat control cable to get right angle on carb without too severe bend in cable.
Have primer mounted now but not the input line to the primer as want to take
it out of a small manifold directly from the wing tank like Gary did versus sucking
it up from the gascolator.
Getting there and its fun working on getting the engine ready to run.
I hope Mike does get quite a bit of time before winter really arrives; it will
help guarantee he gets the 40 before Frazier Lake.
See you soon,
Jim B.
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| Subject: | Re: Another Piet is Born |
Way to go Gary! It's been a long time. Fortunately you have posted many pictures
for the rest of us builders to make our way.
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| Subject: | Re: Another Piet is Born |
I was wondering about the inspection!! Congrats to the poplar piet and its builder!
Mark
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| Subject: | Re: Another Piet is Born |
The whole event was...a non-event! From my first encounter over the phone, this
inspector was engaged and pleasant. The inspection was full of wholesome conversation,
with equal time spent on inspection and paperwork. Total time was about
3.5 hours (mostly talking).
Gary from Cool
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Roberts" <mark.rbrts1@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2012 6:43:25 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Another Piet is Born
I was wondering about the inspection!! Congrats to the poplar piet and its builder!
Mark
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| Subject: | Re: Good information on turning back to the runway |
At least there were pictures.... Too bad they were graphs.
I dearly wanted to be an aerospace engineer when I was in High School, until the
guidance counselor said math would be involved daily, NOT just flying the planes.
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| Subject: | What carburetor should I take? |
I've acquired a C 85 for my Piet, and I'm needing some hElp on choosing a carburetor.
Maybe more importantly due to high density conditions here in TX I really
want a carb with a functioning mixture system.
That said the two carbs to choose from are the Stromberg NA-S3A1 or the
Marvel Schebler MA-3SPA. Both are in pristine condition and
may have already been rebuilt.
If you have experience with these and can give me pros and cons Id really appreciate
it.
Thanks
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| Subject: | Re: What carburetor should I take? |
Tom, I'll be interested in what you learn. I decided to go with the
Marvel Schebler MA-3SPA on my Corvair due to what I have read about
mixture control on the same two carbs that you are considering. Note
that I haven't got it installed yet. For context, it is now 10:15 pm
here in northern Colorado. As of a few minutes ago, the density
altitude dropped all the way to 7100 feet from about just shy of 9000
earlier this afternoon. Cheers, Ken
On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 10:04 PM, tkreiner <tkreiner@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I've acquired a C 85 for my Piet, and I'm needing some hElp on choosing a carburetor.
Maybe more importantly due to high density conditions here in TX I really
want a carb with a functioning mixture system.
>
> That said the two carbs to choose from are the Stromberg NA-S3A1 or the
> Marvel Schebler MA-3SPA. Both are in pristine condition and
> may have already been rebuilt.
>
> If you have experience with these and can give me pros and cons Id really appreciate
it.
>
> Thanks
>
> --------
> Tom Kreiner
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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