---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 08/10/12: 17 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:29 AM - Re: "RE-PIET's" first flight video on You Tube! (Michael Perez) 2. 03:33 AM - Re: Re: Another Piet is Born (Michael Perez) 3. 03:36 AM - Re: What carburetor should I take? (Jack Phillips) 4. 06:29 AM - Re: Re: Good information on turning back to the runway OT (Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB) 5. 08:47 AM - Re: What carburetor should I take? (bradandlinda tds.net) 6. 10:06 AM - AAA- antique airplane assn. (Dick N) 7. 10:29 AM - Re: AAA- antique airplane assn. (Jack@textors.com) 8. 11:12 AM - off, off topic (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]) 9. 04:11 PM - first piet piece done (nightmare) 10. 04:26 PM - Re: first piet piece done (V Groah) 11. 04:32 PM - Re: first piet piece done (Jim Markle) 12. 04:55 PM - Re: first piet piece done (John Francis) 13. 05:01 PM - Re: first piet piece done (John Francis) 14. 05:32 PM - Re: Re: first piet piece done (Jim Markle) 15. 05:44 PM - Re: first piet piece done (John Francis) 16. 06:32 PM - Re: first piet piece done (nightmare) 17. 07:29 PM - hinge-less aileron (Oscar Zuniga) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:29:30 AM PST US From: Michael Perez Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: "RE-PIET's" first flight video on You Tube! Douwe, As I mentioned in an earlier post, I am quite impressed with how you r plane looks. To see it now fly is fantastic...inspirational for us who ar e still building. (well, it is for me...)- I will be looking forward to s eeing your plane in person! Michael Perez =0APietenpol HINT Videos =0AKaretaker Aero =0Awww.karetakeraero.com Do Not Archive ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:33:41 AM PST US From: Michael Perez Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Another Piet is Born Nice Job Gary. Steady as she goes! Michael Perez Pietenpol HINT Videos Karetaker Aero www.karetakeraero.com Do Not Archive ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 03:36:22 AM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: What carburetor should I take? I'd go with the Marvel Schebler. The Stromberg's mixture control is problematic at best. I keep mine wired full rich, but would sure like to be able to lean it out when flying over the mountains. I have to get to nearly 5,000' to get to Brodhead from here. Jack Phillips NX899JP Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of tkreiner Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 12:05 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: What carburetor should I take? I've acquired a C 85 for my Piet, and I'm needing some hElp on choosing a carburetor. Maybe more importantly due to high density conditions here in TX I really want a carb with a functioning mixture system. That said the two carbs to choose from are the Stromberg NA-S3A1 or the Marvel Schebler MA-3SPA. Both are in pristine condition and may have already been rebuilt. If you have experience with these and can give me pros and cons Id really appreciate it. Thanks -------- Tom Kreiner Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=380573#380573 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:29:05 AM PST US From: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Good information on turning back to the runway OT OT As an Army ROTC professor at Texas Tech (Get your guns up!) I would have freshmen list Engineering or Architecture as their major in September. In January I would talk with each of them and note that they were no longer Enigineering or Architecture and ask why. More than once the kid said "I did not know there was so much math involved!" Blue Skies, Steve D ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Roberts Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Good information on turning back to the runway > > At least there were pictures.... Too bad they were graphs. > > I dearly wanted to be an aerospace engineer when I was in High School, until the guidance counselor said math would be involved daily, NOT just > flying the planes. > > -------- > do not archive > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=380572#380572 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:47:24 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: What carburetor should I take? From: "bradandlinda tds.net" I switched to a MS because of repeated float needle problems with Stromberg. Also the MS has an accelerator pump that aids starting and "saves" an engine that starts to die. The MS also requires about 1/2 the head pressure (good for lower mounted tanks). Good factory support and service. On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 5:36 AM, Jack Phillips wrote: > pietflyr@bellsouth.net> > > I'd go with the Marvel Schebler. The Stromberg's mixture control is > problematic at best. I keep mine wired full rich, but would sure like to > be > able to lean it out when flying over the mountains. I have to get to > nearly > 5,000' to get to Brodhead from here. > > Jack Phillips > NX899JP > Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of tkreiner > Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 12:05 AM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Pietenpol-List: What carburetor should I take? > > > I've acquired a C 85 for my Piet, and I'm needing some hElp on choosing a > carburetor. Maybe more importantly due to high density conditions here in > TX I really want a carb with a functioning mixture system. > > That said the two carbs to choose from are the Stromberg NA-S3A1 or the > Marvel Schebler MA-3SPA. Both are in pristine condition and > may have already been rebuilt. > > If you have experience with these and can give me pros and cons Id really > appreciate it. > > Thanks > > -------- > Tom Kreiner > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=380573#380573 > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:06:46 AM PST US From: "Dick N" Subject: Pietenpol-List: AAA- antique airplane assn. Hey all Is anyone else planning on going to Blakesburg, Ia. this labor day day weekend? It is a great show with lots of old planes and runs for the week ending on labor day. Only second to Brodhead. Dick N. ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:29:35 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: AAA- antique airplane assn. From: "Jack@textors.com" Dick not sure at this point will let you know... Jack Textor Sent from my iPad On Aug 10, 2012, at 12:05 PM, "Dick N" wrote: > Hey all > Is anyone else planning on going to Blakesburg, Ia. this labor day day wee kend? It is a great show with lots of old planes and runs for the week endi ng on labor day. Only second to Brodhead. > Dick N. > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 11:12:24 AM PST US From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]" Subject: Pietenpol-List: off, off topic http://www.grantmaclaren.com/terry/ Some of you remember Grant MacLaren who published the Piet newsletter for 10 years before Doc and Dee took over and some remember Grant's friend Terry who was an expert in Model A engines. Terry passed recently and Grant wanted to let the Piet community know for those of you who knew this fine gentleman. Mike C. do not archive (even if it doesn't not archive them like Dan Y. said.....at least it will make Larry Williams feel better)) ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 04:11:55 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: first piet piece done From: "nightmare" just wanted to share my first accomplishment. completed the rudder yesterday (minus hardware, fabric, varnish). was wondering if anyone has taken the time to weigh each piece. my rudder weighs 2lbs 6.6 oz and is doug fir. wanted to see how that compares. pic also shows my two future student piet pilots. dont worry, i wont be posting a pic after each piece. Thanks; Paul -------- Paul Donahue Started 8-3-12 do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=380611#380611 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/photo_1_140.jpg ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 04:26:57 PM PST US From: V Groah Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: first piet piece done Paul=2C I remember so well my first part=2C the elevators. It is so cool to find s ome progress=2C something to hold onto. Looks like nice work. I don't thi nk mine was as nicely sanded. Each step feels great. I hope you have othe r builders in your area like we did here in california. Guys like Gary Boo the=2C Jim Boyer=2C the Ford brothers=2C have kept us going. By all meens =2C keep us all posted on your progress. Some of us are interested. Keep up the good work and keep in touch. Vic 414MV First flight just done. do not archive > Subject: Pietenpol-List: first piet piece done > From: pauldonahuepilot@yahoo.com > Date: Fri=2C 10 Aug 2012 16:11:31 -0700 > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > .com> > > just wanted to share my first accomplishment. completed the rudder yester day (minus hardware=2C fabric=2C varnish). was wondering if anyone has take n the time to weigh each piece. my rudder weighs 2lbs 6.6 oz and is doug fi r. wanted to see how that compares. pic also shows my two future student pi et pilots. dont worry=2C i wont be posting a pic after each piece. Thanks =3B Paul > > -------- > Paul Donahue > Started 8-3-12 > do not archive > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=380611#380611 > > > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/photo_1_140.jpg > > > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 04:32:38 PM PST US Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: first piet piece done From: Jim Markle CjQuNSBwb3VuZHMuLi4uY292ZXJlZCwgMiBjb2F0cyBwcmltZXIsIDIgY29hdHMgdG9wIGNvYXQs IGFsbCBoYXJkd2FyZSBtb3VudGVkLgoKSmltIGluIFByeW9yLi4ubmlnaHRtYXJlIDxwYXVsZG9u YWh1ZXBpbG90QHlhaG9vLmNvbT4gd3JvdGU6QnktLT4gUGlldGVucG9sLUxpc3QgbWVzc2FnZSBw b3N0ZWQgYnk6ICJuaWdodG1hcmUiIDxwYXVsZG9uYWh1ZXBpbG90QHlhaG9vLmNvbT4KCmp1c3Qg d2FudGVkIHRvIHNoYXJlIG15IGZpcnN0IGFjY29tcGxpc2htZW50LiBjb21wbGV0ZWQgdGhlIHJ1 ZGRlciB5ZXN0ZXJkYXkgKG1pbnVzIGhhcmR3YXJlLCBmYWJyaWMsIHZhcm5pc2gpLiB3YXMgd29u ZGVyaW5nIGlmIGFueW9uZSBoYXMgdGFrZW4gdGhlIHRpbWUgdG8gd2VpZ2ggZWFjaCBwaWVjZS4g bXkgcnVkZGVyIHdlaWdocyAybGJzIDYuNiBveiBhbmQgaXMgZG91ZyBmaXIuIHdhbnRlZCB0byBz ZWUgaG93IHRoYXQgY29tcGFyZXMuCgotLS0tLS0tLQpQYXVsIERvbmFodWUKU3RhcnRlZCA4LTMt MTIKZG8gbm90IGFyY2hpdmUKCgoKClJlYWQgdGhpcyB0b3BpYyBvbmxpbmUgaGVyZToKCmh0dHA6 Ly9mb3J1bXMubWF0cm9uaWNzLmNvbS92aWV3dG9waWMucGhwP3A9MzgwNjExIzM4MDYxMQoKCgoK QXR0YWNobWVudHM6IAoKaHR0cDovL2ZvcnVtcy5tYXRyb25pY3MuY29tLy9maWxlcy9waG90b18x XzE0MC5qcGcKCgoKCl8tPT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09 PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09Cl8tPcKgwqDCoMKgwqDCoMKgwqDCoCAtIFRoZSBQaWV0ZW5wb2wt TGlzdCBFbWFpbCBGb3J1bSAtCl8tPSBVc2UgdGhlIE1hdHJvbmljcyBMaXN0IEZlYXR1cmVzIE5h dmlnYXRvciB0byBicm93c2UKXy09IHRoZSBtYW55IExpc3QgdXRpbGl0aWVzIHN1Y2ggYXMgTGlz dCBVbi9TdWJzY3JpcHRpb24sCl8tPSBBcmNoaXZlIFNlYXJjaCAmIERvd25sb2FkLCA3LURheSBC cm93c2UsIENoYXQsIEZBUSwKXy09IFBob3Rvc2hhcmUsIGFuZCBtdWNoIG11Y2ggbW9yZToKXy09 Cl8tPcKgwqAgLS0+IGh0dHA6Ly93d3cubWF0cm9uaWNzLmNvbS9OYXZpZ2F0b3I/UGlldGVucG9s LUxpc3QKXy09Cl8tPT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09 PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09Cl8tPcKgwqDCoMKgwqDCoMKgwqDCoMKgwqDCoMKgwqAgLSBNQVRST05J Q1MgV0VCIEZPUlVNUyAtCl8tPSBTYW1lIGdyZWF0IGNvbnRlbnQgYWxzbyBhdmFpbGFibGUgdmlh IHRoZSBXZWIgRm9ydW1zIQpfLT0KXy09wqDCoCAtLT4gaHR0cDovL2ZvcnVtcy5tYXRyb25pY3Mu Y29tCl8tPQpfLT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09 PT09PT09PT09PT09PQpfLT3CoMKgwqDCoMKgwqDCoMKgwqDCoMKgwqAgLSBMaXN0IENvbnRyaWJ1 dGlvbiBXZWIgU2l0ZSAtCl8tPcKgIFRoYW5rIHlvdSBmb3IgeW91ciBnZW5lcm91cyBzdXBwb3J0 IQpfLT3CoMKgwqDCoMKgwqDCoMKgwqDCoMKgwqDCoMKgwqDCoMKgwqDCoMKgwqDCoMKgwqDCoMKg wqDCoMKgIC1NYXR0IERyYWxsZSwgTGlzdCBBZG1pbi4KXy09wqDCoCAtLT4gaHR0cDovL3d3dy5t YXRyb25pY3MuY29tL2NvbnRyaWJ1dGlvbgpfLT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09 PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PQoKCgo ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 04:55:30 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: first piet piece done From: "John Francis" Paul, Pictures are good. Just resize them to about 850. John -------- John Francis Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=380616#380616 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 05:01:43 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: first piet piece done From: "John Francis" 4.5 lbs to 21 lbs???? Is some one lying? -------- John Francis Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=380618#380618 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 05:32:11 PM PST US Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: first piet piece done From: Jim Markle Tm8gbGVnIHB1bGxpbmcgaGVyZSAod2VsbCwgVEhJUyB0aW1lISkuIMKgOi0pCgpJdCdzIDIgcG91 bmRzIG9yIHNvIHZlcnN1cyAobXkpIDQuNSBwb3VuZHMuCgpTbyBJIGFkZGVkIGEgY291cGxlIHBv dW5kcywgbW9yZSBvciBsZXNzLCB3aXRoIGZhYnJpYywgcGFpbnQsIGZpdHRpbmdzLCBldGMuIG9u IG15IGZpbmlzaGVkIHJ1ZGRlci4KCkFuZCBJIGFncmVlIHdpdGggVmljOiDCoGtlZXAgdGhvc2Ug cGljdHVyZXMgY29taW5nISDCoEFuZCBjb25ncmF0cyEKCkppbSBpbiBQcnlvci4uLgoKSm9obiBG cmFuY2lzIDxNcmtyaW5nbGVzQG1zbi5jb20+IHdyb3RlOi0tPiBQaWV0ZW5wb2wtTGlzdCBtZXNz YWdlIHBvc3RlZCBieTogIkpvaG4gRnJhbmNpcyIgPE1ya3JpbmdsZXNAbXNuLmNvbT4KCjQuNSBs YnMgdG8gMjEgbGJzPz8/PyBJcyBzb21lIG9uZSBseWluZz8KCi0tLS0tLS0tCkpvaG4gRnJhbmNp cwoKCgoKUmVhZCB0aGlzIHRvcGljIG9ubGluZSBoZXJlOgoKaHR0cDovL2ZvcnVtcy5tYXRyb25p Y3MuY29tL3ZpZXd0b3BpYy5waHA/cD0zODA2MTgjMzgwNjE4CgoKCgoKCgpfLT09PT09PT09PT09 PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PQpfLT3CoMKg wqDCoMKgwqDCoMKgwqAgLSBUaGUgUGlldGVucG9sLUxpc3QgRW1haWwgRm9ydW0gLQpfLT0gVXNl IHRoZSBNYXRyb25pY3MgTGlzdCBGZWF0dXJlcyBOYXZpZ2F0b3IgdG8gYnJvd3NlCl8tPSB0aGUg bWFueSBMaXN0IHV0aWxpdGllcyBzdWNoIGFzIExpc3QgVW4vU3Vic2NyaXB0aW9uLApfLT0gQXJj aGl2ZSBTZWFyY2ggJiBEb3dubG9hZCwgNy1EYXkgQnJvd3NlLCBDaGF0LCBGQVEsCl8tPSBQaG90 b3NoYXJlLCBhbmQgbXVjaCBtdWNoIG1vcmU6Cl8tPQpfLT3CoMKgIC0tPiBodHRwOi8vd3d3Lm1h dHJvbmljcy5jb20vTmF2aWdhdG9yP1BpZXRlbnBvbC1MaXN0Cl8tPQpfLT09PT09PT09PT09PT09 PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PQpfLT3CoMKgwqDC oMKgwqDCoMKgwqDCoMKgwqDCoMKgIC0gTUFUUk9OSUNTIFdFQiBGT1JVTVMgLQpfLT0gU2FtZSBn cmVhdCBjb250ZW50IGFsc28gYXZhaWxhYmxlIHZpYSB0aGUgV2ViIEZvcnVtcyEKXy09Cl8tPcKg wqAgLS0+IGh0dHA6Ly9mb3J1bXMubWF0cm9uaWNzLmNvbQpfLT0KXy09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09 PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT0KXy09wqDCoMKgwqDC oMKgwqDCoMKgwqDCoMKgIC0gTGlzdCBDb250cmlidXRpb24gV2ViIFNpdGUgLQpfLT3CoCBUaGFu ayB5b3UgZm9yIHlvdXIgZ2VuZXJvdXMgc3VwcG9ydCEKXy09wqDCoMKgwqDCoMKgwqDCoMKgwqDC oMKgwqDCoMKgwqDCoMKgwqDCoMKgwqDCoMKgwqDCoMKgwqDCoCAtTWF0dCBEcmFsbGUsIExpc3Qg QWRtaW4uCl8tPcKgwqAgLS0+IGh0dHA6Ly93d3cubWF0cm9uaWNzLmNvbS9jb250cmlidXRpb24K Xy09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09 PT09PT0KCgoK ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 05:44:40 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: first piet piece done From: "John Francis" Jim, I saw my mistake right after I posted that response and deleted it. Had to rub it in, didn't you:lol: -------- John Francis Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=380620#380620 ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 06:32:30 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: first piet piece done From: "nightmare" thanks guys, copy that (all the above). Paul -------- Paul Donahue Started 8-3-12 do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=380625#380625 ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 07:29:51 PM PST US From: Oscar Zuniga Subject: Pietenpol-List: hinge-less aileron David=3B The prototype section that I'm developing and have partially assembled uses metal ailerons with the Zenith-style hinge-less flexing metal. It also us es the Ed Fisher-developed metal ribs and a built-up wooden I-spar. The me tal ribs=2C together with rib clips=2C eliminate rib stitching. 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