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1. 12:11 AM - Re: Brakes: Comprehensive Reference list and discussion (Mark Roberts)
2. 03:07 AM - Re: Re: Control sticks in position... (Jack)
3. 04:20 AM - Re: Brakes: Comprehensive Reference list and discussion (Jerry Dotson)
4. 04:36 AM - Re: Re: Brakes: Comprehensive Reference list and discussion (Jack Phillips)
5. 05:34 AM - Re: Brakes: Comprehensive Reference list and discussion (pineymb)
6. 07:26 AM - Re: A65 pushrod housing connectors (Dan Yocum)
7. 10:59 AM - Brakes: Comprehensive Reference list and discussion (Douwe Blumberg)
8. 02:06 PM - Re: A65 pushrod housing connectors (Barry Davis)
9. 02:12 PM - Re: Control sticks in position... (aerocarjake)
10. 02:18 PM - Turbo Subaru (Greg Bacon)
11. 05:28 PM - Fw: Adieu (Lawrence Williams)
12. 06:06 PM - Re: A65 pushrod housing connectors (Jack Phillips)
13. 06:28 PM - Re: A65 pushrod housing connectors (aircamperace@yahoo.com)
14. 06:31 PM - Re: Fw: Adieu (Dick N)
15. 07:27 PM - Stromberg for sale (Ryan Mueller)
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| Subject: | Re: Brakes: Comprehensive Reference list and discussion |
Thanks Oscar. This is just the point of this thread: to get the pros and cons out
there in one common location, and you sure make a good case for hydraulics.
Personally, the reasons you mention for good holding power is exactly why I wanted
to know what people were doing. Jody, my wife, really likes the look of
the larger spoked wheels, and I know I will need better than average holding power
with those larger wheels.
So, I felt Hydraulics were pretty much a necessity, but that's ME thinking, and
I haven't been there, done that yet, so thus the question.
I hadn't thought of looking for a used set of Cessna 172 brakes. I know a mechanic
here in town that might know a place to get some used parts. He's right across
the parking lot from Fresno AirParts that I see mentioned on this forum occasionally.
I went there a couple of months ago to see what they had, and they
are mostly engine parts. The FBO I the same parking lot is a friend of mine
so I dropped in for a visit to both places.
I definitely want holding power if I can get it for run up.
Thanks for the advice.
Mark
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| Subject: | Re: Control sticks in position... |
Jake I always enjoy reviewing your work! When fist posted I didn't notice
the tape holding the tubing in place. Is that high temp tape? If so, does
it work well to secure the tube while welding? Great idea.
Jack Textor
DSM
NX1929T
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of aerocarjake
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 1:15 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Control sticks in position...
Bill,
These two posts give the best overview of my steel-tube fuselage.
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=88960&highlight=jake+schultz
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=87701&highlight=jake+schultz
...and this site has further information on the project:
http://www.rotecengines.com/Projects/JakeSchultz.html
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Jake Schultz - curator,
Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)
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| Subject: | Re: Brakes: Comprehensive Reference list and discussion |
Mark I have Kawasaki 80's vintage dirt bike aluminum wheels using the disc brake
rotor that came on them. My brakes are cable actuated mechanical using a Carlisle
disc brake calipers that I bought from BMI carts. Like Oscar's my brakes
will hold the airplane at full power. I think the discs are 10" diameter. The
hubs were bored out to accept bronze bushings with a 1" spindle welded in the
1 1/2" axle tube. I won't debate hydraulic versus mechanical. Either one is good
if they work right. I have experience with both that were no good.
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Jerry Dotson
59 Daniel Johnson Rd
Baker, FL 32531
First flight June 16,2012
Started building July, 2009
21" wheels
Lycoming O-235 C2C
Jay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Brakes: Comprehensive Reference list and discussion |
Mark, I also have Cleveland brakes on my 21" wire wheels, My brakes are
heel actuated and work well. They will hold it for a runup, but won't hold
it at full throttle because it takes more torque to hold those big wheels
than the brakes can apply. Airplanes quit using big wheels about the time
they started using brakes.
I made heel brakes because I learned to fly in a J-3 Cub and it just seems
more natural to dig in your heels to stop than to point your toes forward
like pushing on an accelerator.
I used matco master cylinders and other than being a bit troublesome to
bleed due to the design of the installation, they work well.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Roberts
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 3:11 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Brakes: Comprehensive Reference list and
discussion
Thanks Oscar. This is just the point of this thread: to get the pros and
cons out there in one common location, and you sure make a good case for
hydraulics. Personally, the reasons you mention for good holding power is
exactly why I wanted to know what people were doing. Jody, my wife, really
likes the look of the larger spoked wheels, and I know I will need better
than average holding power with those larger wheels.
So, I felt Hydraulics were pretty much a necessity, but that's ME thinking,
and I haven't been there, done that yet, so thus the question.
I hadn't thought of looking for a used set of Cessna 172 brakes. I know a
mechanic here in town that might know a place to get some used parts. He's
right across the parking lot from Fresno AirParts that I see mentioned on
this forum occasionally. I went there a couple of months ago to see what
they had, and they are mostly engine parts. The FBO I the same parking lot
is a friend of mine so I dropped in for a visit to both places.
I definitely want holding power if I can get it for run up.
Thanks for the advice.
Mark
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| Subject: | Re: Brakes: Comprehensive Reference list and discussion |
My Piet originally had a set of Goodyear wheels and brakes (which were very problematic)
and replaced them with Clevlands. No more issues with bleeding the brakes
and replacing lost or broken clips. As mentioned by Oscar, taxing around
in tight spaces or turning on a dime is easy with this setup.
PS. I have a half dozen or so clips and buttons for Goodyear brakes if someone
needs them as you would know now difficult these are to find.
Do not archive
Mark Roberts wrote:
> Thanks Oscar. This is just the point of this thread: to get the pros and cons
out there in one common location, and you sure make a good case for hydraulics.
Personally, the reasons you mention for good holding power is exactly why I
wanted to know what people were doing. Jody, my wife, really likes the look of
the larger spoked wheels, and I know I will need better than average holding
power with those larger wheels.
>
> So, I felt Hydraulics were pretty much a necessity, but that's ME thinking, and
I haven't been there, done that yet, so thus the question.
>
> I hadn't thought of looking for a used set of Cessna 172 brakes. I know a mechanic
here in town that might know a place to get some used parts. He's right
across the parking lot from Fresno AirParts that I see mentioned on this forum
occasionally. I went there a couple of months ago to see what they had, and they
are mostly engine parts. The FBO I the same parking lot is a friend of mine
so I dropped in for a visit to both places.
>
> I definitely want holding power if I can get it for run up.
>
> Thanks for the advice.
>
> Mark
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Adrian M
Winnipeg, MB
Canada
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| Subject: | Re: A65 pushrod housing connectors |
There are reports on the internet that these started to leak after about
80hr in service. :-(
Those hog clamps aren't so bad as long as you have the right tool, too.
Dan
On 08/14/2012 01:28 AM, Ryan Mueller wrote:
> And no more fighting those stupid hog ring clamps too.
>
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Dan Yocum
yocum137@gmail.com
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| Subject: | Brakes: Comprehensive Reference list and discussion |
I'm using large wire wheels and built up drum brakes around some EZ-GO golf
cart brakes. They are activated by pedals levers which are made of flat
stock and lay just outside the ply cockpit sides, under the fabric. The
pedal portion goes through a slot in the ply and protrudes into the cockpit
about two inches, just enough for my toe to find. The bottom portion of the
lever protrudes from under the covering just below the fuse bottom about 1"
where it attaches to the cable that routes down the gear to the brake.
Small turnbuckles here allow infinite adjustment (a good thing!)
So far I've been a bit surprised how well they hold those large wheels, much
more than I anticipated. I can hold up to about 1500rpm or so.
Douwe
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| Subject: | A65 pushrod housing connectors |
What is your "right" tool?
Barry
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Yocum
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 10:18 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: A65 pushrod housing connectors
There are reports on the internet that these started to leak after about
80hr in service. :-(
Those hog clamps aren't so bad as long as you have the right tool, too.
Dan
On 08/14/2012 01:28 AM, Ryan Mueller wrote:
> And no more fighting those stupid hog ring clamps too..
>
--
Dan Yocum
yocum137@gmail.com
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| Subject: | Re: Control sticks in position... |
Thanks Jack...
The tape is nothing special - just blue 3M "low tack" painter's tape. I keep it
about 4 inches away from any joint that will be welded and it works great to
hold parts in place.
Disclaimer: ALL the welding that Mike (Ready Weld) does is TIG. I suspect the
tape would not work well holding parts in place for GAS welding - too large of
a heat affected zone.
Just as an aside, most of my focus over the past month has be re-fabricating the
instrument panel and attach points/mounts - so the panel will "float" on rubber
isolators instead of mount rigidly to the steel-tube structure. It's been
a fairly long (and somewhat depressing at times) process to re-do what I already
had finished but the instruments should be a LOT happier with less vibration.......
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Jake Schultz - curator,
Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)
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Mountain Piet is getting an A75 conversion. The turbo Subaru is for sale,
firewall forward. Please let me know if you are interested.
Thank you!
--
Greg Bacon
Prairie Home, MO
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I hereby relinquish my title and standing as Top Curmudgeon to an ad hoc group
until such time as I return to this list.
My current passion is paragliding and the attendant travel to foreign and out-of-the-way
places sometimes makes it difficult to find wi-fi hotspots. Even if
I have access to a computer, time is usually limited so wading through email is
cumbersome. I want to enjoy this type of flying for as long as my old body will
hold up so I am simplifying my life as much as I can so I can devote time
and energy to that end.
The irony to this is that I just bought a Sky Scout project! I'll work on it when
I'm home as time permits. So you see, I haven't given up on the marque and
I still have a big surprise in mind for next year at Brodhead.
Until later:1. Build to the
plans.2. Build light.3. Don't add any stupid stuff.4. Archive all you want!
Larry Williams
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| Subject: | A65 pushrod housing connectors |
I use a pair of Vise Grips with a groove ground in each jaw, parallel to the
long axis of the pliers, so you can fit each of the tangs of the hog clamps
in a groove and squeeze without them slipping out of the jaws.
Continental probably sells a special tool for the purpose but this is cheap
and works well.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry Davis
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 5:10 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: A65 pushrod housing connectors
What is your "right" tool?
Barry
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Yocum
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 10:18 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: A65 pushrod housing connectors
There are reports on the internet that these started to leak after about
80hr in service. :-(
Those hog clamps aren't so bad as long as you have the right tool, too.
Dan
On 08/14/2012 01:28 AM, Ryan Mueller wrote:
> And no more fighting those stupid hog ring clamps too..
>
--
Dan Yocum
yocum137@gmail.com
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| Subject: | Re: A65 pushrod housing connectors |
This is what I use;
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/CNL-558/?rtype=10
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 16, 2012, at 5:09 PM, "Barry Davis" <bed@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
> What is your "right" tool?
> Barry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Yocum
> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 10:18 AM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: A65 pushrod housing connectors
>
>
> There are reports on the internet that these started to leak after about
> 80hr in service. :-(
>
> Those hog clamps aren't so bad as long as you have the right tool, too.
>
> Dan
>
>
> On 08/14/2012 01:28 AM, Ryan Mueller wrote:
>> And no more fighting those stupid hog ring clamps too..
>>
>
> --
> Dan Yocum
> yocum137@gmail.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Hi Larry
Welcome to the Sky Scout crowd, I am building one at this time also.
Dick N.
----- Original Message -----
From: Lawrence Williams
To: Pietlist
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 7:27 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fw: Adieu
I hereby relinquish my title and standing as Top
Curmudgeon to an ad hoc group until such time as I return to this list.
My current passion is paragliding and the attendant
travel to foreign and out-of-the-way places sometimes makes it difficult
to find wi-fi hotspots. Even if I have access to a computer, time is
usually limited so wading through email is cumbersome. I want to enjoy
this type of flying for as long as my old body will hold up so I am
simplifying my life as much as I can so I can devote time and energy to
that end.
The irony to this is that I just bought a Sky Scout
project! I'll work on it when I'm home as time permits. So you see, I
haven't given up on the marque and I still have a big surprise in mind
for next year at Brodhead.
Until later:
1. Build to the plans.
2. Build light.
3. Don't add any stupid stuff.
4. Archive all you want!
Larry Williams
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| Subject: | Stromberg for sale |
Evening all,
I had the opportunity to spend a few days at OSH this year, so I hit the
Aeromart looking for carbs suitable for Corvair use. I found an
appropriate
Stromberg with the mixture pieces tied to it (if one was so inclined). I
went ahead and snatched it up, figuring that some Corvaircrafter (or
small Continental user) out there
might need one. I popped the top, it is intact, with no visible bowl
corrosion from ethanol use. I paid $250 for it, I am asking $250 for it,
and you pay for shipping. Let me know, thanks...
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2314248/stromberg1.JPG
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2314248/stromberg2.JPG
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2314248/stromberg3.JPG
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2314248/stromberg4.JPG
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2314248/stromberg5.jpg
Ryan
Ryan Mueller
rmueller23@gmail.com
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