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1. 03:57 AM - Re: Operation Axel complete! (Gary Boothe)
2. 04:09 AM - Re: Total time to build (Jerry Dotson)
3. 04:17 AM - Re: Re: Total time to build (Gary Boothe)
4. 04:30 AM - Re: Operation Axel complete! (helspersew@aol.com)
5. 04:51 AM - Re: Re: Total time to build (Jack Phillips)
6. 04:56 AM - Re: Operation Axel complete! (Jack Phillips)
7. 05:06 AM - Re: Operation Axel complete! (shad bell)
8. 05:08 AM - MERFI fly-in today (shad bell)
9. 05:35 AM - Re: Operation Axel complete! (Faith Maltese Kuri)
10. 08:14 AM - Re: Operation Axel complete! (Bill Princell)
11. 09:59 AM - Personal Recovery at 1 Month (Oscar Zuniga)
12. 12:51 PM - Re: Total time to build (taildrags)
13. 01:02 PM - Re: Total time to build (Jerry Dotson)
14. 01:25 PM - Re: Re: Total time to build (V Groah)
15. 02:34 PM - Re: Personal Recovery at 1 Month (airlion)
16. 02:36 PM - Re: Re: Total time to build (airlion)
17. 03:09 PM - FW: First Flight (Gary Boothe)
18. 03:17 PM - Re: FW: First Flight (Ryan Mueller)
19. 03:37 PM - Re: FW: First Flight (Jim Boyer)
20. 03:48 PM - Re: FW: First Flight (Ken Bickers)
21. 04:16 PM - Re: FW: First Flight (Robert Bush)
22. 04:23 PM - Re: FW: First Flight (Gary Boothe)
23. 04:43 PM - Re: First Flight (Jerry Dotson)
24. 04:45 PM - First Flight of NX308MB (Gary Boothe)
25. 04:47 PM - Re: Operation Axel complete! (Ryan Mueller)
26. 05:06 PM - Re: Total time to build (Jerry Dotson)
27. 05:11 PM - Re: First Flight of NX308MB (Jerry Dotson)
28. 05:12 PM - Re: FW: First Flight (Michael Groah)
29. 05:32 PM - Re: FW: First Flight (Darrel Jones)
30. 05:47 PM - Re: FW: First Flight (Darrel Jones)
31. 05:49 PM - Re: First Flight of NX308MB (dwilson)
32. 06:48 PM - Re: Re: Total time to build (Rick Schreiber)
33. 06:55 PM - Re: FW: First Flight (Rick Schreiber)
34. 06:55 PM - Nicopress tools (John Greenlee)
35. 07:04 PM - corvair eyebrows (Rick Schreiber)
36. 07:17 PM - Re: Re: Total time to build (Ken Bickers)
37. 07:21 PM - Re: First Flight of NX308MB (curtdm(at)gmail.com)
38. 07:22 PM - Tail wheel check out. (Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB)
39. 07:27 PM - Re: Tail wheel check out. (Ken Bickers)
40. 08:13 PM - Re: Tail wheel check out. (taildrags)
41. 08:14 PM - Re: First Flight of NX308MB (Jack Phillips)
42. 08:32 PM - Re: First Flight (Billy McCaskill)
43. 08:36 PM - Re: Tail wheel check out. (Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB)
44. 08:39 PM - Re: Re: Tail wheel check out. (Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB)
45. 09:02 PM - Re: Nicopress tools (biplan53)
46. 09:17 PM - MyKitplane (biplan53)
47. 09:39 PM - Re: FW: First Flight (shad bell)
48. 11:26 PM - Re: MyKitplane (Matthew)
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| Subject: | Operation Axel complete! |
Good job, Ryan!
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Operation
Axel
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 6:58 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Operation Axel complete!
Hello good people,
I am pleased to announce the results of Operation Axel! Your patience in
awaiting this announcement is appreciated (I was waiting to receive and
process the remaining contributions I knew were still on the way).
Thank you on behalf of the organizers of Operation Axel, and most
importantly on behalf of Kevin and Shelley, for the outpouring of support,
well-wishes, prayers, and overall good karma that you all so generously
gave. I am most excited to announce that due to the efforts of 46
contributors we have collected a grand total of $4,025.52! Once again, this
unique brotherhood (and sisterhood) of Pietenpol builders, pilots,
enthusiasts, and friends has demonstrated how fortunate we all are to be a
part of it. Thank you all so very much!
I have tonight issued the check electronically from the BoA account used to
collect the contributions, and Kevin and Shelley should see it in their
mailbox in about a week. I have included a screencap of the payment
confirmation below. Since Operation Axel has drawn to a close, we are no
longer asking for contributions. If any other contributions do show up in my
mailbox after this point they will still be generously accepted and
processed as before.
Thank you all again, and have a great weekend!
Ryan
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| Subject: | Re: Total time to build |
Gary you sure work fast. My spiral bound notebook log showed over 3000 hours in
November,2011 and I quit adding up the totals then. I work slooow.
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Jerry Dotson
59 Daniel Johnson Rd
Baker, FL 32531
First flight June 16,2012
Started building July, 2009
21" wheels
Lycoming O-235 C2C
Jay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Total time to build |
It cost you less/hr then! I should have slowed down...;-)
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Dotson
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2012 4:09 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Total time to build
--> <jdotson@centurylink.net>
Gary you sure work fast. My spiral bound notebook log showed over 3000 hours
in November,2011 and I quit adding up the totals then. I work slooow.
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Jerry Dotson
59 Daniel Johnson Rd
Baker, FL 32531
First flight June 16,2012
Started building July, 2009
21" wheels
Lycoming O-235 C2C
Jay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Operation Axel complete! |
To all those who gave and all those who gave well wishes many thanks for ma
king this effort a success. I am sure this will be a blessing to Kevin and
Shelley. This is a great and generous group of people I am proud to be a pa
rt. A special thanks to Ryan Mueller for doing all the work. Good job!
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
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| Subject: | Re: Total time to build |
Yeah, my total was 2465 hours spaced out over 7-1/2 years. My total cost
(not counting tools purchased) was $14, 960.58. How does that compare with
others?
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Dotson
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2012 7:09 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Total time to build
<jdotson@centurylink.net>
Gary you sure work fast. My spiral bound notebook log showed over 3000 hours
in November,2011 and I quit adding up the totals then. I work slooow.
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Jerry Dotson
59 Daniel Johnson Rd
Baker, FL 32531
First flight June 16,2012
Started building July, 2009
21" wheels
Lycoming O-235 C2C
Jay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44
do not archive
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| Subject: | Operation Axel complete! |
So who was the cheapskate that contributed 52=A2? Everybody else
apparently
contributed some kind of multiple of $25.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Operation
Axel
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 9:58 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Operation Axel complete!
Hello good people,
I am pleased to announce the results of Operation Axel! Your patience in
awaiting this announcement is appreciated (I was waiting to receive and
process the remaining contributions I knew were still on the way).
Thank you on behalf of the organizers of Operation Axel, and most
importantly on behalf of Kevin and Shelley, for the outpouring of
support,
well-wishes, prayers, and overall good karma that you all so generously
gave. I am most excited to announce that due to the efforts of 46
contributors we have collected a grand total of $4,025.52! Once again,
this
unique brotherhood (and sisterhood) of Pietenpol builders, pilots,
enthusiasts, and friends has demonstrated how fortunate we all are to be
a
part of it. Thank you all so very much!
I have tonight issued the check electronically from the BoA account used
to
collect the contributions, and Kevin and Shelley should see it in their
mailbox in about a week. I have included a screencap of the payment
confirmation below. Since Operation Axel has drawn to a close, we are no
longer asking for contributions. If any other contributions do show up
in my
mailbox after this point they will still be generously accepted and
processed as before.
Thank you all again, and have a great weekend!
Ryan
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| Subject: | Re: Operation Axel complete! |
Yes Ryan, Thank you for giving us all the means to give back to friends in
need.- This is one outstanding group of people.
-
Shad
--- On Sat, 8/25/12, helspersew@aol.com <helspersew@aol.com> wrote:
From: helspersew@aol.com <helspersew@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Operation Axel complete!
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To all those who gave and all those who gave well wishes many thanks for ma
king this effort a success. I am sure this will be a blessing to Kevin and
Shelley. This is a great and generous group of people I am proud to be a pa
rt. A special thanks to Ryan Mueller for doing all the work. Good job!
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
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| Subject: | MERFI fly-in today |
I am getting ready to blast off for MERFI in Urbana OH in 30 min, hope to s
ee another piet or two over there.- I will be flying in with a C-140, and
Spacewalker, if they will slow down.
-
Shad
don't archive
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| Subject: | Re: Operation Axel complete! |
Great job Ryan. Well handled and communicated. Maybe I'll make you the CFO
of my company. LOL
Faith
-----Original Message-----
From: Operation Axel <operationaxel@gmail.com>
Sent: Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:50 pm
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Operation Axel complete!
Hello good people,
I am pleased to announce the results of Operation Axel! Your patience in aw
aiting this announcement is appreciated (I was waiting to receive and proce
ss the remaining contributions I knew were still on the way).
Thank you on behalf of the organizers of Operation Axel, and most important
ly on behalf of Kevin and Shelley, for the outpouring of support, well-wish
es, prayers, and overall good karma that you all so generously gave. I am m
ost excited to announce that due to the efforts of 46 contributors we have
collected a grand total of $4,025.52! Once again, this unique brotherhood (
and sisterhood) of Pietenpol builders, pilots, enthusiasts, and friends has
demonstrated how fortunate we all are to be a part of it. Thank you all so
very much!
I have tonight issued the check electronically from the BoA account used to
collect the contributions, and Kevin and Shelley should see it in their ma
ilbox in about a week. I have included a screencap of the payment confirmat
ion below. Since Operation Axel has drawn to a close, we are no longer aski
ng for contributions. If any other contributions do show up in my mailbox a
fter this point they will still be generously accepted and processed as bef
ore.
Thank you all again, and have a great weekend!
Ryan
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| Subject: | Re: Operation Axel complete! |
Hi Ryan:
What an awesome group of people. Thanks for everything you did to make this
a success.
Bill -
Sent: Fri, Aug 24, 2012 11:50 pm
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Operation Axel complete!
>
> Hello good people,
>
> I am pleased to announce the results of Operation Axel! Your patience in
> awaiting this announcement is appreciated (I was waiting to receive and
> process the remaining contributions I knew were still on the way).
>
> Thank you on behalf of the organizers of Operation Axel, and most
> importantly on behalf of Kevin and Shelley, for the outpouring of support,
> well-wishes, prayers, and overall good karma that you all so generously
> gave. I am most excited to announce that due to the efforts of 46
> contributors we have collected a grand total of $4,025.52! Once again, this
> unique brotherhood (and sisterhood) of Pietenpol builders, pilots,
> enthusiasts, and friends has demonstrated how fortunate we all are to be a
> part of it. Thank you all so very much!
>
> I have tonight issued the check electronically from the BoA account used
> to collect the contributions, and Kevin and Shelley should see it in their
> mailbox in about a week. I have included a screencap of the payment
> confirmation below. Since Operation Axel has drawn to a close, we are no
> longer asking for contributions. If any other contributions do show up in
> my mailbox after this point they will still be generously accepted and
> processed as before.
>
> Thank you all again, and have a great weekend!
>
> Ryan
>
>
> [image: Inline image 1]
>
>
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| Subject: | Personal Recovery at 1 Month |
Kevin: if you get tired of sitting around and your leg gets to where it be
nds=2C you can go down to San Geronimo=2C pick up Scout=2C and fly the airp
lane up here to Oregon for me. Should only take 4 days. Mostly headwinds
all the way=2C but you're just sitting around anyway=2C and now you're svel
te enough to get in those crowded old cockpits again.
You'll have to hand-prop the airplane about 20-30 times in the 4 days/2000
miles/35 flight hours that it takes to get up here but you'll be a better p
ilot for it. We don't need no stinkin' electrics =3Bo)
The bonus is that once you're up here=2C it's just a few hours up the highw
ay to Aurora... home of Van's Aircraft. Bet you could get a test ride in a
nice roomy 4-place RV-10 with glass panel=2C that would be SO much more en
joyable to fly than a fussy taildragging stick-and-rag airplane with an old
car engine on the front.
do not archive
Oscar Zuniga
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
Medford=2C OR
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| Subject: | Re: Total time to build |
Jack; considering what you say you have in materials cost in your airplane and
the fact that I bought Scout from Corky essentially new for $15,000, that means
Corky and McKenley built it for free and Edwin did all the test flights for
free. I think I got a good deal ;o)
Moral of the story: buying a completed and flying Piet is a heckuva bargain. They
are just SO much fun to build though!
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Oscar Zuniga
Medford/Ashland, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power
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| Subject: | Re: Total time to build |
Mine was in the $15K neighborhood......$12,574.70 that don't count varnish, paint,
masking paper and tape, and so forth. Nearly everything bought locally never
made it to the spreadsheet. A trip to Tampa for the engine and Atlanta to
get the bulk of ACS spruce, plywood and 4130 materials never made the ledger either.
I flew my Piet over to a hurricane tested hangar this morning.Looks like we gonna
get another one. We have not had a storm of any magnitude since I built my
hangar.
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Jerry Dotson
59 Daniel Johnson Rd
Baker, FL 32531
First flight June 16,2012
Started building July, 2009
21" wheels
Lycoming O-235 C2C
Jay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44
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| Subject: | Re: Total time to build |
Wow=2C you guys are really organized!!! We took about 4 1/2 or 5 years to
finish ours. There were months when we did not have time to touch it=2C we
eks that were at it like a job. It was a challenge and fun. I think Mike
knows about how much was spent=2C sort of=2C as we split the cost as well
as the labor. No clue as to how many hours. Who cares!! We had fun doing i
t.
Yes=2C it is much cheaper to just buy one but then you do not have the brag
ging rights of having scratch built an airplane that actually flies. What
is that worth?? Nothing to some=2C everything to others. I suspect all of
us that actually finished one of these is proud of the accomplishment and
also would do a few things differently the second time. I think none of us
wants to have to do it over though. I bow down to those who have had the
fortitude to do it.
Thank all of you guys who have given us advice and encouragement over the y
ears. You too have had a hand in building our plane.
Vic NX414MV
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Total time to build
> From: flight.jake@gmail.com
> Date: Fri=2C 24 Aug 2012 22:34:05 -0700
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>
m>
>
> Dang=2C nice job..... I'm about 4 years into it and think I'm only about
halfway there...! (I am keeping track of hours but have not added them up)
>
> Well done Gary...
>
> Do not archive
>
> --------
> Jake Schultz - curator=2C
> Newport Way Air Museum (OK=2C it's just my home)
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| Subject: | Re: Personal Recovery at 1 Month |
shame on your comments Oscar. Gardiner=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A______________________
__________=0AFrom: Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com>=0ATo: Pietenpol Lis
t <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>=0ASent: Sat, August 25, 2012 1:00:17 PM=0A
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Personal Recovery at 1 Month=0A=0A=0AKevin:- if
you get tired of sitting around and your leg gets to where it bends, =0Ayou
can go down to San Geronimo, pick up Scout, and fly the airplane up here t
o =0AOregon for me.- Should only take 4 days.- Mostly headwinds all the
way, but =0Ayou're just sitting around anyway, and now you're svelte enoug
h to get in those =0Acrowded old cockpits again.=0A-=0AYou'll have to han
d-prop the airplane about 20-30 times in the 4 days/2000 =0Amiles/35 flight
hours that it takes to get up here but you'll be a better pilot =0Afor it.
- We don't need no stinkin' electrics ;o)=0A-=0AThe bonus is that once
you're up here, it's just a few hours up the highway to =0AAurora... home o
f Van's Aircraft.- Bet you could get a test ride in a nice roomy =0A4-pla
ce RV-10 with glass panel,-that would be SO much more enjoyable to fly th
an =0Aa fussy taildragging stick-and-rag airplane with an old car engine on
the front.=0A-=0Ado not archive=0A-=0AOscar Zuniga=0AAir Camper NX41CC
= =0A
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| Subject: | Re: Total time to build |
Jerry , hows it flying? And how many hours do you have on it? Gardiner
----- Original Message ----
From: Jerry Dotson <jdotson@centurylink.net>
Sent: Sat, August 25, 2012 4:03:08 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Total time to build
Mine was in the $15K neighborhood......$12,574.70 that don't count varnish,
paint, masking paper and tape, and so forth. Nearly everything bought locally
never made it to the spreadsheet. A trip to Tampa for the engine and Atlanta to
get the bulk of ACS spruce, plywood and 4130 materials never made the ledger
either.
I flew my Piet over to a hurricane tested hangar this morning.Looks like we
gonna get another one. We have not had a storm of any magnitude since I built my
hangar.
--------
Jerry Dotson
59 Daniel Johnson Rd
Baker, FL 32531
First flight June 16,2012
Started building July, 2009
21" wheels
Lycoming O-235 C2C
Jay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44
do not archive
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| Subject: | FW: First Flight |
List,
I just posted this to family, and personal friends. To this list, I wish to
add the following:
I have not yet flown it, myself, for various reasons. Test pilot, Roy
Richardson, flying a Pietenpol for the first time, reported that it flies
beautifully, even hands off; this despite what we thought was a
malfunctioning ASI. Since he was unsure of his airspeed (turns out he was
cruising at 65mph), he tended to be a little conservative, and the engine
being a little tight, oil temp was high.
More later, as I work thru some stuff.
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
From: Gary Boothe [mailto:gboothe5@comcast.net]
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2012 2:59 PM
Reinthaler; 'wreinthaler@lwsupply.com'; Mary Neal; Natalie Boothe
(flygirl5479@comcast.net); randy.farmer (randy.farmer@att.net); Richard
Vetterli; Ryan Boothe; Sara Peitzmeier; Vicki Boothe; Woodymsi@aol.com;
WilliamTCA@aol.com; whotchkiss@lwsupply.com; 'Brett Henry (Dryvit)'
(brett.henry@dryvit.com); 'mbrand@lwsupply.com'; 'tstokely@lwsupply.com';
cpaterson@lwsupply.com; 'anelms@lwsupply.com'; 'gblanco@lwsupply.com'; 'Mike
Studer'; Mike Weaver; lrtiger@sbcglobal.net; 'Mark.clough@fellertusa.com';
Kevin McDonald; 'jake@lightcreteinc.com'; 'cfagundes@lwsupply.com';
'smwaud@gmail.com'
Subject: First Flight
Family & Friends (If you ever expressed an interest in my project, even if
you faked interest, you made it to the Family & Friends List!..and, if you
have received this circuitously, and think you should have been on the list,
my apologies!),
Here is a picture taken in 1972 at a fly-in/airshow in Madera, Ca., where I
had flown my recently restored Taylorcraft BC12-D (inset).
I was 19 years old.and hung-over for the first time (its own bittersweet
story!). Bad as my headache was, I wasn't in such poor shape that I couldn't
recognize the simple beauty of a Pietenpol, telling myself, "Someday." For
those who may not know, this airplane was designed by Bernard Pietenpol in
1927. It has always only existed as a set of plans, by which aviation
experimenters have been building Pietenpols around the world for the past
80+ years.
Fast forward 40 years, after realizing the futility of staying in aviation
and raising a family since 1985, my dream of building & flying that simple
little airplane has been finally fulfilled! This airplane is a tribute to my
father, a die-hard do-it-yourselfer. The FAA 'N' number, NX308MB, contains
his initials, along with the month and year of his passing, which, not
without coincidence, is the month and year that I began work on the
Pietenpol. I miss you, Dad.
FAA airworthiness inspection & certificate was granted on August 8, 2012,
and first flight was today, August 25, 2012, by test pilot, Roy Richardson,
without incident. Construction is wood and fabric, powered by a Corvair
engine and my own hand-carved prop! This initial flight will be followed by
40 hours of solo test flight where I will establish the parameters of the
aircraft operation (which is a fancy way of saying, "Stay in the air, when
you want to.Land, when & where you want to.)
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
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Congratulations Gary!
Ryan Mueller
rmueller23@gmail.com
On Aug 25, 2012, at 5:09 PM, "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
> List,
>
> I just posted this to family, and personal friends. To this list, I
wish to add the following:
>
> I have not yet flown it, myself, for various reasons. Test pilot, Roy
Richardson, flying a Pietenpol for the first time, reported that it
flies beautifully, even hands off; this despite what we thought was a
malfunctioning ASI. Since he was unsure of his airspeed (turns out he
was cruising at 65mph), he tended to be a little conservative, and the
engine being a little tight, oil temp was high.
>
> More later, as I work thru some stuff=85
>
> Gary Boothe
> NX308MB
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Congratulations Gary; you have a beautiful Piet. Frazier Lake will=C2- be
neat this year with three local Piets; yours, Mike and Vics and Charlies.
Cheers,
Jim B.
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What a special day. Congratulations!!!
On Aug 25, 2012, at 4:09 PM, "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
> List,
>
> I just posted this to family, and personal friends. To this list, I wish t
o add the following:
>
> I have not yet flown it, myself, for various reasons. Test pilot, Roy Rich
ardson, flying a Pietenpol for the first time, reported that it flies beauti
fully, even hands off; this despite what we thought was a malfunctioning ASI
. Since he was unsure of his airspeed (turns out he was cruising at 65mph), h
e tended to be a little conservative, and the engine being a little tight, o
il temp was high.
>
> More later, as I work thru some stuff
>
> Gary Boothe
> NX308MB
>
> From: Gary Boothe [mailto:gboothe5@comcast.net]
> Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2012 2:59 PM
> To: Gail Boothe; Jan Bagnall; Jeff Zember; Jorge Busso; Leigh Ann Reinthal
er; 'wreinthaler@lwsupply.com'; Mary Neal; Natalie Boothe (flygirl5479@comca
st.net); randy.farmer (randy.farmer@att.net); Richard Vetterli; Ryan Boothe;
Sara Peitzmeier; Vicki Boothe; Woodymsi@aol.com; WilliamTCA@aol.com; whotch
kiss@lwsupply.com; 'Brett Henry (Dryvit)' (brett.henry@dryvit.com); 'mbrand@
lwsupply.com'; 'tstokely@lwsupply.com'; cpaterson@lwsupply.com; 'anelms@lwsu
pply.com'; 'gblanco@lwsupply.com'; 'Mike Studer'; Mike Weaver; lrtiger@sbcgl
obal.net; 'Mark.clough@fellertusa.com'; Kevin McDonald; 'jake@lightcreteinc.
com'; 'cfagundes@lwsupply.com'; 'smwaud@gmail.com'
> Subject: First Flight
>
> Family & Friends (If you ever expressed an interest in my project, even if
you faked interest, you made it to the Family & Friends List!..and, if you h
ave received this circuitously, and think you should have been on the list, m
y apologies!),
>
>
>
> Here is a picture taken in 1972 at a fly-in/airshow in Madera, Ca., where I
had flown my recently restored Taylorcraft BC12-D (inset).
>
> <image003.jpg>
> <image006.jpg>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I was 19 years oldand hung-over for the first time (its own bitte
rsweet story!). Bad as my headache was, I wasn=99t in such poor shape t
hat I couldn=99t recognize the simple beauty of a Pietenpol, telling m
yself, =9CSomeday=9D For those who may not know, this a
irplane was designed by Bernard Pietenpol in 1927. It has always only existe
d as a set of plans, by which aviation experimenters have been building Piet
enpols around the world for the past 80+ years.
>
> Fast forward 40 years, after realizing the futility of staying in aviation
and raising a family since 1985, my dream of building & flying that simple l
ittle airplane has been finally fulfilled! This airplane is a tribute to my f
ather, a die-hard do-it-yourselfer. The FAA =98N=99 number, NX30
8MB, contains his initials, along with the month and year of his passing, wh
ich, not without coincidence, is the month and year that I began work on the
Pietenpol. I miss you, Dad
>
> <image009.jpg>
>
> FAA airworthiness inspection & certificate was granted on August 8, 2012,
and first flight was today, August 25, 2012, by test pilot, Roy Richardson,
without incident. Construction is wood and fabric, powered by a Corvair eng
ine and my own hand-carved prop! This initial flight will be followed by 40 h
ours of solo test flight where I will establish the parameters of the aircra
ft operation (which is a fancy way of saying, =9CStay in the air, when
you want toLand, when & where you want to.)
>
> Gary Boothe
> NX308MB
>
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Congratulations Gary. It only gets better from here!
Randy Bush
NX294RB
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 25, 2012, at 5:17 PM, Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com> wrote:
> Congratulations Gary!
>
> Ryan Mueller
> rmueller23@gmail.com
>
>
>
>
> On Aug 25, 2012, at 5:09 PM, "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> List,
>>
>> I just posted this to family, and personal friends. To this list, I wish t
o add the following:
>>
>> I have not yet flown it, myself, for various reasons. Test pilot, Roy Ric
hardson, flying a Pietenpol for the first time, reported that it flies beaut
ifully, even hands off; this despite what we thought was a malfunctioning AS
I. Since he was unsure of his airspeed (turns out he was cruising at 65mph),
he tended to be a little conservative, and the engine being a little tight,
oil temp was high.
>>
>> More later, as I work thru some stuff
>>
>> Gary Boothe
>> NX308MB
>
>
>
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| Subject: | FW: First Flight |
Thanks, Randy! I have a question for you, but can=99t see your
email herecan you contact me off-list? Gboothe5@comcast.net
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert
Bush
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2012 4:16 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: FW: First Flight
Congratulations Gary. It only gets better from here!
Randy Bush
NX294RB
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 25, 2012, at 5:17 PM, Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com> wrote:
Congratulations Gary!
Ryan Mueller
rmueller23@gmail.com
On Aug 25, 2012, at 5:09 PM, "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
List,
I just posted this to family, and personal friends. To this list, I wish
to add the following:
I have not yet flown it, myself, for various reasons. Test pilot, Roy
Richardson, flying a Pietenpol for the first time, reported that it
flies beautifully, even hands off; this despite what we thought was a
malfunctioning ASI. Since he was unsure of his airspeed (turns out he
was cruising at 65mph), he tended to be a little conservative, and the
engine being a little tight, oil temp was high.
More later, as I work thru some stuff
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
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I am so proud for you Gary. It's gonna be fun!
--------
Jerry Dotson
59 Daniel Johnson Rd
Baker, FL 32531
First flight June 16,2012
Started building July, 2009
21" wheels
Lycoming O-235 C2C
Jay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44
do not archive
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| Subject: | First Flight of NX308MB |
Better video is forth coming from another source.
http://youtu.be/KE1lDlGO_P8
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
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| Subject: | Re: Operation Axel complete! |
Spoke too soon=85.47 contributors and $4,275.52. :)
Thanks everyone!
Ryan Mueller
operationaxel@gmail.com
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| Subject: | Re: Total time to build |
Gardiner it is better than my wildest imagination. I have 22 hours on it now. When
the weather dries up some I will pick up the pace some. It rained the last
2 weeks of July and over 2 weeks in August. It is dry now and I flew this morning.
Dog gone hurricane coming now. It will be next Thursday at best before I
fly again. How is your Piet coming along?
--------
Jerry Dotson
59 Daniel Johnson Rd
Baker, FL 32531
First flight June 16,2012
Started building July, 2009
21" wheels
Lycoming O-235 C2C
Jay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44
do not archive
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That was a 19 second teaser Buddy. Sounded and looked good. More?
--------
Jerry Dotson
59 Daniel Johnson Rd
Baker, FL 32531
First flight June 16,2012
Started building July, 2009
21" wheels
Lycoming O-235 C2C
Jay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: FW: First Flight |
Awesome!...=C2- I'm so excited for you.=C2- It actually flies!=C2- I
cant' wait to see it for myself.=0A=0A=0AMike Groah=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A_________
_______________________=0A From: Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net>=0ATo: p
ietenpol-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Saturday, August 25, 2012 3:09 PM=0ASu
bject: Pietenpol-List: FW: First Flight=0A =0A=0AList,=0A=C2-=0AI just po
sted this to family, and personal friends. To this list, I wish to add the
following:=0A=C2-=0AI have not yet flown it, myself, for various reasons.
Test pilot, Roy Richardson, flying a Pietenpol for the first time, reporte
d that it flies beautifully, even hands off; this despite what we thought w
as a malfunctioning ASI. Since he was unsure of his airspeed (turns out he
was cruising at 65mph), he tended to be a little conservative, and the engi
ne being a little tight, oil temp was high. =0A=C2-=0AMore later, as I wo
rk thru some stuff=0A=C2-=0AGary Boothe=0ANX308MB=0A=C2-=0AFro
m:Gary Boothe [mailto:gboothe5@comcast.net] =0ASent: Saturday, August 25, 2
012 2:59 PM=0ATo: Gail Boothe; Jan Bagnall; Jeff Zember; Jorge Busso; Leigh
Ann Reinthaler; 'wreinthaler@lwsupply.com'; Mary Neal; Natalie Boothe (fly
girl5479@comcast.net); randy.farmer (randy.farmer@att.net); Richard Vetterl
i; Ryan Boothe; Sara Peitzmeier; Vicki Boothe; Woodymsi@aol.com; WilliamTCA
@aol.com; whotchkiss@lwsupply.com; 'Brett Henry (Dryvit)' (brett.henry@dryv
it.com); 'mbrand@lwsupply.com'; 'tstokely@lwsupply.com'; cpaterson@lwsupply
.com; 'anelms@lwsupply.com'; 'gblanco@lwsupply.com'; 'Mike Studer'; Mike We
aver; lrtiger@sbcglobal.net; 'Mark.clough@fellertusa.com'; Kevin McDonald;
'jake@lightcreteinc.com'; 'cfagundes@lwsupply.com'; 'smwaud@gmail.com'=0ASu
bject: First Flight=0A=C2-=0AFamily & Friends (If you ever expressed an i
nterest in my project, even if you faked interest, you made it to the Famil
y & Friends List!..and, if you have received this circuitously, and think y
ou should have been on the list, my apologies!), =0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0A=C2
-=0AHere is a picture taken in 1972 at a fly-in/airshow in Madera, Ca., w
here I had flown my recently restored Taylorcraft BC12-D (inset). =0A=C2-
=0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0A=C2-
=0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0A
=C2-=0A=C2-=0A=0AI was 19 years oldand hung-over for the first
time (its own bittersweet story!). Bad as my headache was, I wasn=99
t in such poor shape that I couldn=99t recognize the simple beauty of
a Pietenpol, telling myself, =9CSomeday=9D For those
who may not know, this airplane was designed by Bernard Pietenpol in 1927.
It has always only existed as a set of plans, by which aviation experimente
rs have been building Pietenpols around the world for the past 80+ years.
=0A=C2-=0AFast forward 40 years, after realizing the futility of staying
in aviation and raising a family since 1985, my dream of building & flying
that simple little airplane has been finally fulfilled! This airplane is a
tribute to my father, a die-hard do-it-yourselfer. The FAA =98N
=99 number, NX308MB, contains his initials, along with the month and year o
f his passing, which, not without coincidence, is the month and year that I
began work on the Pietenpol. I miss you, Dad=0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0A
FAA=C2- airworthiness inspection & certificate was granted on August 8, 2
012, and first flight was today, August 25, 2012, by test pilot, Roy Richar
dson, without incident. Construction is wood and fabric, powered by a Corva
ir engine and my own hand-carved prop! This initial flight will be followed
by 40 hours of solo test flight where I will establish the parameters of t
he aircraft operation (which is a fancy way of saying, =9CStay in the
air, when you want toLand, when & where you want to.)=0A=C2-=0A
Gary Boothe=0ANX308MB
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Gary,
As Homer Simpson would say, "Woo-hoo!" Break out the donuts!
Congratulations!
Darrel
(Second try. Looks like the first didn't go through)
On 8/25/2012 3:09 PM, Gary Boothe wrote:
>
> List,
>
> I just posted this to family, and personal friends. To this list, I
> wish to add the following:
>
> I have not yet flown it, myself, for various reasons. Test pilot, Roy
> Richardson, flying a Pietenpol for the first time, reported that it
> flies beautifully, even hands off; this despite what we thought was a
> malfunctioning ASI. Since he was unsure of his airspeed (turns out he
> was cruising at 65mph), he tended to be a little conservative, and the
> engine being a little tight, oil temp was high.
>
> More later, as I work thru some stuff...
>
> Gary Boothe
>
> NX308MB
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: First Flight of NX308MB |
Gary. Way to go! Looks and sounds real nice my friend. She is a fine ship as
Bernie would say!
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| Subject: | Re: Total time to build |
For me as well as others I'm sure, the building journey was fantastic.
Could I have bought a project or a completed Piet and saved my labor,
certainly but that was not the point. I knew going into this project
that my labor was for free, I was building a plane for the sheer
enjoyment. Now that the the project is coming to an end after roughly
ten years, I would like to start on another.
Regards,
Rick Schreiber
Valparaiso, IN
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Wow Gary!.......
I cant even imagine how this first flight felt. Congratulations!
Regards,
Rick Schreiber
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Hello all,
When I originally built the Pietenpol, I used a manual swaging tool - I
think it is called a Swage-it. It is the one where you tighten some bolts
to crush the sleeves. I am interested in getting a bolt-cutter style
swaging tool. The only sizes I should need to swage are 1/16, 3/32, and
1/8. I see a lot of previously owned Nicopress tools on ebay. However, I
do not know how to identify the correct model number to do what I want to
do. These should be relatively plentiful as they are really a telephone
company technology. Does anybody have any information and experience on
which model to get?
Thanks!
JMG
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| Subject: | corvair eyebrows |
Thanks to Oscar, Kevin, Randy and Gary for the response about the size
of the eyebrows for a corvair installation. It looks like 4.5 inches is
about the right height.
Rick Schreiber
Valparaiso, IN
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| Subject: | Re: Total time to build |
12 step program
... my name is Rick. It has be three days and six hours since I last
cut a gusset.
On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 7:47 PM, Rick Schreiber <lmforge@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> For me as well as others I'm sure, the building journey was fantastic. Could
> I have bought a project or a completed Piet and saved my labor, certainly
> but that was not the point. I knew going into this project that my labor was
> for free, I was building a plane for the sheer enjoyment. Now that the the
> project is coming to an end after roughly ten years, I would like to start
> on another.
>
> Regards,
> Rick Schreiber
> Valparaiso, IN
>
>
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That's Awesome Gary!
--------
Curt Merdan
Flower Mound, TX
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| Subject: | Tail wheel check out. |
Well, this morning we had a small break from high winds and thunderstorms, so I
was able to get my tailwheel checkout.
The plane was a 1947 Aeronca 7AC Champ with no electrics (and prop and handheld
radio) and 65 roaring HP.
The instructor, Vern Foster (95 Years Old) has somewhere around 6000 hours of
tailwheel time. He started flying in 1939.
Checkout took an hour with 8 landings. First thing he did was pull the engine at
30 feet and made me simulate a engine out landing. Then three point landings
and wheel landings. Then cross wind TO and landings. The last thing was taxiing
with the brakes on hard and the power up. This was to prepare me for landing
in very high winds. He said I did well and complemented my instructor (Lonnie
Gillespie) on doing a fine job.
YA HOO!
Blue Skies,
Steve "taildragger" D.
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| Subject: | Re: Tail wheel check out. |
Way to go, Steve. I bet Vern has some good stories. Cheers, Ken
On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 8:22 PM, Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB
<steven.d.dortch@us.army.mil> wrote:
>
> Well, this morning we had a small break from high winds and thunderstorms, so
I was able to get my tailwheel checkout.
>
> The plane was a 1947 Aeronca 7AC Champ with no electrics (and prop and handheld
radio) and 65 roaring HP.
>
> The instructor, Vern Foster (95 Years Old) has somewhere around 6000 hours of
tailwheel time. He started flying in 1939.
>
> Checkout took an hour with 8 landings. First thing he did was pull the engine
at 30 feet and made me simulate a engine out landing. Then three point landings
and wheel landings. Then cross wind TO and landings. The last thing was taxiing
with the brakes on hard and the power up. This was to prepare me for landing
in very high winds. He said I did well and complemented my instructor (Lonnie
Gillespie) on doing a fine job.
>
> YA HOO!
>
> Blue Skies,
> Steve "taildragger" D.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Tail wheel check out. |
Steve;
Good on ya! Maybe if you catch me when I'm down at San Geronimo before I take
the wings off of Scout, you can take 'er up!
--------
Oscar Zuniga
Medford/Ashland, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power
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| Subject: | First Flight of NX308MB |
Fantastic, Gary! The only thing better will be when you fly yourself this
airplane that you built from scratch. There is NO better feeling in the
world, including sex.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Boothe
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2012 7:40 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: First Flight of NX308MB
Better video is forth coming from another source.
http://youtu.be/KE1lDlGO_P8
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
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| Subject: | Re: First Flight |
Way to go, Gary! Nice to see another shiny new Piet take to the skies. Brodhead
in 2013?
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Billy McCaskill
Baker, LA
tail section almost done, starting on ribs soon
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| Subject: | Re: Tail wheel check out. |
Vern has a great amount of aviation knowledge. He flew corporate and for the airlines.
He related that the DC3/C47 was a great plane and after a 50 year break
from flying it, He was able to do a greaser landing on his first landing.
Describing the technique of holding brakes and using power, he kept a Lockheed
Electra full of executives from flipping during a gust front. For 10 minutes,
he held brakes, Throttled up, brought the tail up and kept the plane pinned to
the tarmac. Then he taxied to takeoff.
Great guy, I am very pleased to have his name in my log book.
Blue Skies,
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: Ken Bickers <bickers.ken@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Tail wheel check out.
>
> Way to go, Steve. I bet Vern has some good stories. Cheers, Ken
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> On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 8:22 PM, Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB
> < wrote:
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> > Well, this morning we had a small break from high winds and thunderstorms,
so I was able to get my tailwheel checkout.
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> > The plane was a 1947 Aeronca 7AC Champ with no electrics (and prop and handheld
radio) and 65 roaring HP.
> >
> > The instructor, Vern Foster (95 Years Old) has somewhere around 6000 hours
of tailwheel time. He started flying in 1939.
> >
> > Checkout took an hour with 8 landings. First thing he did was pull the engine
at 30 feet and made me simulate a engine out landing. Then three point landings
and wheel landings. Then cross wind TO and landings. The last thing was taxiing
with the brakes on hard and the power up. This was to prepare me for landing
in very high winds. He said I did well and complemented my instructor (Lonnie
Gillespie) on doing a fine job.
> >
> > YA HOO!
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> > Blue Skies,
> > Steve "taildragger" D.
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| Subject: | Re: Tail wheel check out. |
Be careful what you offer. I am moving back to San Antonio this week and it looks
like i have a hanger back at San Geronimo.
I may get a chance to take you up on this offer.
Blue Skies,
Steve D
----- Original Message -----
From: taildrags <taildrags@hotmail.com>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Tail wheel check out.
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> Steve;
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> Good on ya! Maybe if you catch me when I'm down at San Geronimo before I take
the wings off of Scout, you can take 'er up!
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> Oscar Zuniga
> Medford/Ashland, OR
> Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
> A75 power
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| Subject: | Re: Nicopress tools |
Lowes has a tool for pressing sleeves on, you check that one out.[/b]
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Building steel fuselage aircamper.
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I must be barking up the wrong tree cause I still can't get Mykitplane, no matter
how many times I try.
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Building steel fuselage aircamper.
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| Subject: | Re: FW: First Flight |
A BIG Congradulations Gary From Cool.
-
Shad
--- On Sat, 8/25/12, Rick Schreiber <lmforge@earthlink.net> wrote:
From: Rick Schreiber <lmforge@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: FW: First Flight
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Wow Gary!.......
I cant even imagine how this- first flight felt. Congratulations!
Regards,
Rick Schreiber
le, List Admin.
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Just married!!
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On Aug 26, 2012, at 12:17 AM, "biplan53" <biplan53@hotmail.com> wrote:
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